tommie loves him some blue oysters!!!

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BU should kick them all out of school. Ridiculous that we should have to put up with this bull**** at a private Christian college.

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If they kicked out all the kids who engage in sexual immorality, there wouldn't be many left.

Or do you really think, like old Jack Fields, that you don't have to ask a Baylor girl if she's a virgin? You know she is. LOL.

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No, I just want the homos out.

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I guess the Jesus of love I worship isn't the same as yours. Essentially it's not your call. It's my God and His Son's call. You are neither.

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So this is what the Board of Regents got us? No surprise they screwed up again!

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The BOR no longer disappoints me. I have come to expect this kinda crap from them.

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BU should kick them all out of school. Ridiculous that we should have to put up with this bull**** at a private Christian college.

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If they kicked out all the kids who engage in sexual immorality, there wouldn't be many left.

Or do you really think, like old Jack Fields, that you don't have to ask a Baylor girl if she's a virgin? You know she is. LOL.

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No, I just want the homos out.

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I guess the Jesus of love I worship isn't the same as yours. Essentially it's not your call. It's my God and His Son's call. You are neither.

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I say the same thing about all drunks on the highway. What is your retort for that?

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BU should kick them all out of school. Ridiculous that we should have to put up with this bull**** at a private Christian college.

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If they kicked out all the kids who engage in sexual immorality, there wouldn't be many left.

Or do you really think, like old Jack Fields, that you don't have to ask a Baylor girl if she's a virgin? You know she is. LOL.

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No, I just want the homos out.

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I guess the Jesus of love I worship isn't the same as yours. Essentially it's not your call. It's my God and His Son's call. You are neither.

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I say the same thing about all drunks on the highway. What is your retort for that?

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I guess you weren't taught free will. You seem to want to rate individual sins and then condemn those that are in your top ten. Again not your call. The God and Son have the final say. You still are not either. We are told to love. That is good enough for me. I sin enough as it is and have reached that point of realizing that I have no right to judge. Not your call.

I gave myself lung cancer by my choice in 2003 by ignoring the warning on lacquer thinner. I chose to be stupid like your highway drunk. I paid for my stupidity. Fortunately no one else directly suffered. The lack of a lower left lobe will end my days.

I hope at some point I will hear, "Well done my good and faithful servant." I pray that you let God be the guide instead of your being the guide of God.

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BU should kick them all out of school. Ridiculous that we should have to put up with this bull**** at a private Christian college.

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If they kicked out all the kids who engage in sexual immorality, there wouldn't be many left.

Or do you really think, like old Jack Fields, that you don't have to ask a Baylor girl if she's a virgin? You know she is. LOL.

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I guess the Jesus of love I worship isn't the same as yours. Essentially it's not your call. It's my God and His Son's call. You are neither.

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Love doesn't mean what you think it means. It doesn't involve justifying, practicing and normalizing sin…..or anal lube.

Some of you folks seem to mistake the God of the Bible with the same sort of spirit that rules over Burning Man. Check your New Age, sin-tolerant false god.

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Some of you folks seem to mistake the God of the Bible with the same sort of spirit that rules over Burning Man. Check your New Age, sin-tolerant false god.

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Maybe its the Catholic in me, you gotta at least try.

LGBTQ group that was founded to be pro-gay but also "committed to Biblical truth about sexuality" turns out to now be a advocacy group.

Who could have seen that coming....

If earlier debates regarding Revoice were too esoteric for the ordinary believer, this report won’t be. It’s very clear that Revoice has chosen a path, but what this report describes is not the path to Christian faithfulness. Not by a long shot.@CBMWorghttps://t.co/We6zgCXZBO

— Denny Burk (@DennyBurk) October 25, 2022

World magazine went to the recent Revoice conference, and was startled by what it saw. Excerpts from the World report:

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Revoice has changed, too. Speakers have always emphasized homosexuality as an identity, not just a behavior. But this year, such assertions from the dais seemed more insistent, with speakers assiduously using civil-rights language to present radical change as settled truth. That identity rhetoric extended to transgender ideology. Speakers frequently referred to "sexual and gender minorities" and used preferred pronouns, along with terms such as women "assigned female at birth." The group's reach and influence are growing, but leaders now emphasize parachurch activities. Speakers frequently referenced ongoing rejection within the church and encouraged attendees to form their own spiritual communities in local Revoice chapters.
Critics have long warned that Revoice's messaging is deceptive and erroneously conflates Biblical teaching and the good news of the gospel with cultural messages about sexuality and gender. Now, they say those seeds of error are leading Revoice further from Biblical orthodoxy and undercutting the Creation ordinance, "male and female he created them."
"Sin is progressive, and what we're seeing with Revoice is the progression of that sin," said Rosaria Butterfield, a former lesbian feminist and tenured English professor at Syracuse University who is now a pastor's wife and mother of four.

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LGBTQ group that was founded to be pro-gay but also "committed to Biblical truth about sexuality" turns out to now be a advocacy group.

Who could have seen that coming....

If earlier debates regarding Revoice were too esoteric for the ordinary believer, this report won’t be. It’s very clear that Revoice has chosen a path, but what this report describes is not the path to Christian faithfulness. Not by a long shot.@CBMWorghttps://t.co/We6zgCXZBO

— Denny Burk (@DennyBurk) October 25, 2022

World magazine went to the recent Revoice conference, and was startled by what it saw. Excerpts from the World report:

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Revoice has changed, too. Speakers have always emphasized homosexuality as an identity, not just a behavior. But this year, such assertions from the dais seemed more insistent, with speakers assiduously using civil-rights language to present radical change as settled truth. That identity rhetoric extended to transgender ideology. Speakers frequently referred to "sexual and gender minorities" and used preferred pronouns, along with terms such as women "assigned female at birth." The group's reach and influence are growing, but leaders now emphasize parachurch activities. Speakers frequently referenced ongoing rejection within the church and encouraged attendees to form their own spiritual communities in local Revoice chapters.
Critics have long warned that Revoice's messaging is deceptive and erroneously conflates Biblical teaching and the good news of the gospel with cultural messages about sexuality and gender. Now, they say those seeds of error are leading Revoice further from Biblical orthodoxy and undercutting the Creation ordinance, "male and female he created them."
"Sin is progressive, and what we're seeing with Revoice is the progression of that sin," said Rosaria Butterfield, a former lesbian feminist and tenured English professor at Syracuse University who is now a pastor's wife and mother of four.

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The Church unfortunately more often than not has voluntarily submitted to the Culture. Not surprise the Gaystapo would take precedents over the Gospel. There was a very slippery slope from acceptance to celebration to advocacy.

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My daughter just got her ACT scores back. That combined with her honors classes, and stellar GPA mean that she is automatically accepted at Baylor... her first choice.

Now... maybe not so much. One of her other options is John Brown University in rural Arkansas. It is very far from home, and no where close to the name recognition as BU.... but it is still a CHRISTIAN education, and not some watered down BS.

This is probably going to be the final straw for her.

I'm very sad that my university has gone down this road. It leads to absolute hell, and there is nothing redeeming about it.

I only hope that this Trans bull**** will implode upon itself, before my other kids hit college age.

Honest question: Do you think there is any chance that people will wake up and realize just how destructive this trans crap is? People are ruining their bodies and their lives over some depression and feelings of confusion. This has gotten out of control.

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30 pieces of silver.

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We didn't even get any money for selling our institutional soul.

Heck this won't even get us any positive news coverage...just the usually characters saying "Baylor should have been more progressive along time ago"

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How did Baylor sell its soul? Of all issues why do you pick this one to die on a hill over? I'll never understand it. Would you also have been against integration and inter-racial marriage? Christians used to oppose those things too. Many Baptists still oppose dancing -- did Baylor sell it soul when it allowed dancing?? Baylor is leading the way on how Christian entities can show compassion and provide a caring environment for LGBTQ people going forward. What Baylor is doing is actually revolutionary and I believe in line with the teachings of love and compassion of Jesus far more than promoting discrimination and hate will ever be.

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What does "show compassion and provide a caring environment for LGBTQ people" look and sound like? What does the BTQ aspect require to be considered compassionate and caring?

Sorry to be so direct, but we were told "people just want to love and marry who they want", but clearly that's not all that has transpired since then.

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It means allowing LGBTQ people to be able to exist. It means providing the full resources and opportunities afforded to any other students. It means formally recognizing them by allowing them to form a student organization just as other students are able to do. It means allowing LGBTQ students a safe place to come together with others who are similar in community and fellowship. If you're LGBTQ you no longer have to hide who you are at Baylor. It shows there is a place for you here.

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You are asking Christians to endorse celebration of something that the Bible unequivocally describes as (at minimum) unGodly behavior, and attacking anyone who disagrees with you as bigots. Because such is now culturally fashionable, you will intimidate many into silence, but you should know that you will change few minds on these questions.

Look around at the socio-political environment. We are at, or very near to the high water mark of queer theory as cultural hegemony. It will not last. Ordinary people hate bullies, and few have been more energetic as such than those who revel in the last few letters of the alphabet people. I encourage you to explore other ways of interacting with people who do not agree with you, because what you're doing now is likely to be increasingly counterproductive in coming years.

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30 pieces of silver.

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We didn't even get any money for selling our institutional soul.

Heck this won't even get us any positive news coverage...just the usually characters saying "Baylor should have been more progressive along time ago"

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How did Baylor sell its soul? Of all issues why do you pick this one to die on a hill over? I'll never understand it. Would you also have been against integration and inter-racial marriage? Christians used to oppose those things too. Many Baptists still oppose dancing -- did Baylor sell it soul when it allowed dancing?? Baylor is leading the way on how Christian entities can show compassion and provide a caring environment for LGBTQ people going forward. What Baylor is doing is actually revolutionary and I believe in line with the teachings of love and compassion of Jesus far more than promoting discrimination and hate will ever be.

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What does "show compassion and provide a caring environment for LGBTQ people" look and sound like? What does the BTQ aspect require to be considered compassionate and caring?

Sorry to be so direct, but we were told "people just want to love and marry who they want", but clearly that's not all that has transpired since then.

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It means allowing LGBTQ people to be able to exist. It means providing the full resources and opportunities afforded to any other students. It means formally recognizing them by allowing them to form a student organization just as other students are able to do. It means allowing LGBTQ students a safe place to come together with others who are similar in community and fellowship. If you're LGBTQ you no longer have to hide who you are at Baylor. It shows there is a place for you here.

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1. If gay students can't exist at Baylor before this gay club, who asked to start it?
2. Can you name one resource or opportunity a gay student did not have at Baylor before the gay club?
3. Gay students are prevented from forming student organizations? Can you document?
4. Gay student can't meet together unless there is a gay club? How will gays know there is a new gay club if they can't talk?
5. There were not gays at Baylor before the gay club, none out of the closet?

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30 pieces of silver.

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We didn't even get any money for selling our institutional soul.

Heck this won't even get us any positive news coverage...just the usually characters saying "Baylor should have been more progressive along time ago"

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How did Baylor sell its soul? Of all issues why do you pick this one to die on a hill over? I'll never understand it. Would you also have been against integration and inter-racial marriage? Christians used to oppose those things too. Many Baptists still oppose dancing -- did Baylor sell it soul when it allowed dancing?? Baylor is leading the way on how Christian entities can show compassion and provide a caring environment for LGBTQ people going forward. What Baylor is doing is actually revolutionary and I believe in line with the teachings of love and compassion of Jesus far more than promoting discrimination and hate will ever be.

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What does "show compassion and provide a caring environment for LGBTQ people" look and sound like? What does the BTQ aspect require to be considered compassionate and caring?

Sorry to be so direct, but we were told "people just want to love and marry who they want", but clearly that's not all that has transpired since then.

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It means allowing LGBTQ people to be able to exist. It means providing the full resources and opportunities afforded to any other students. It means formally recognizing them by allowing them to form a student organization just as other students are able to do. It means allowing LGBTQ students a safe place to come together with others who are similar in community and fellowship. If you're LGBTQ you no longer have to hide who you are at Baylor. It shows there is a place for you here.

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1. If gay students can't exist at Baylor before this gay club, who asked to start it?
2. Can you name one resource or opportunity a gay student did not have at Baylor before the gay club?
3. Gay students are prevented from forming student organizations? Can you document?
4. Gay student can't meet together unless there is a gay club? How will gays know there is a new gay club if they can't talk?
5. There were not gays at Baylor before the gay club, none out of the closet?

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It's all about definitions of his words. Allow me to translate:

A. Exist: To exercise control over the university through woke emotional blackmail.
B. Full Resources and Opportunities: Extorting an ostensibly Christian university to fund groups advocating anti-Christian lifestyles.
C. Formally Recognizing: Bowing down to.
D. Safe Place to come together: University funded place to cum together....probably with HIV.
E. No longer have to hide who you are: Assless chaps for every Zie/Zim/Zher/Zhey who wants them!!!

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30 pieces of silver.

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We didn't even get any money for selling our institutional soul.

Heck this won't even get us any positive news coverage...just the usually characters saying "Baylor should have been more progressive along time ago"

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How did Baylor sell its soul? Of all issues why do you pick this one to die on a hill over? I'll never understand it. Would you also have been against integration and inter-racial marriage? Christians used to oppose those things too. Many Baptists still oppose dancing -- did Baylor sell it soul when it allowed dancing?? Baylor is leading the way on how Christian entities can show compassion and provide a caring environment for LGBTQ people going forward. What Baylor is doing is actually revolutionary and I believe in line with the teachings of love and compassion of Jesus far more than promoting discrimination and hate will ever be.

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What does "show compassion and provide a caring environment for LGBTQ people" look and sound like? What does the BTQ aspect require to be considered compassionate and caring?

Sorry to be so direct, but we were told "people just want to love and marry who they want", but clearly that's not all that has transpired since then.

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It means allowing LGBTQ people to be able to exist. It means providing the full resources and opportunities afforded to any other students. It means formally recognizing them by allowing them to form a student organization just as other students are able to do. It means allowing LGBTQ students a safe place to come together with others who are similar in community and fellowship. If you're LGBTQ you no longer have to hide who you are at Baylor. It shows there is a place for you here.

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1. If gay students can't exist at Baylor before this gay club, who asked to start it?
2. Can you name one resource or opportunity a gay student did not have at Baylor before the gay club?
3. Gay students are prevented from forming student organizations? Can you document?
4. Gay student can't meet together unless there is a gay club? How will gays know there is a new gay club if they can't talk?
5. There were not gays at Baylor before the gay club, none out of the closet?

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It's all about definitions of his words. Allow me to translate:

A. Exist: To exercise control over the university through woke emotional blackmail.
B. Full Resources and Opportunities: Extorting an ostensibly Christian university to fund groups advocating anti-Christian lifestyles.
C. Formally Recognizing: Bowing down to.
D. Safe Place to come together: University funded place to cum together....probably with HIV.
E. No longer have to hide who you are: Assless chaps for every Zie/Zim/Zher/Zhey who wants them!!!

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That is what I figured, and I doubt I will get an answer. As noted, generally these are long on emotional hyperbole and short on specifics. The reality is Baylor has always had its share of gay students. I knew many while I was there. Despite not having wild "Pride" parades and Drag Queen Dr Pepper hour they seemed to have a great experience. To my knowledge, none of them were denied the ability to exist, prevented from starting organizations, develop a community, or even hide. I generally do not understand this requirement that every institution formally recognize every sexual proclivity. I have a few gay friends, and I can assure you their self-worth and happiness is not dependent on being recognized by every institution with a club or a flag.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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30 pieces of silver.

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We didn't even get any money for selling our institutional soul.

Heck this won't even get us any positive news coverage...just the usually characters saying "Baylor should have been more progressive along time ago"

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How did Baylor sell its soul? Of all issues why do you pick this one to die on a hill over? I'll never understand it. Would you also have been against integration and inter-racial marriage? Christians used to oppose those things too. Many Baptists still oppose dancing -- did Baylor sell it soul when it allowed dancing?? Baylor is leading the way on how Christian entities can show compassion and provide a caring environment for LGBTQ people going forward. What Baylor is doing is actually revolutionary and I believe in line with the teachings of love and compassion of Jesus far more than promoting discrimination and hate will ever be.

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What does "show compassion and provide a caring environment for LGBTQ people" look and sound like? What does the BTQ aspect require to be considered compassionate and caring?

Sorry to be so direct, but we were told "people just want to love and marry who they want", but clearly that's not all that has transpired since then.

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It means allowing LGBTQ people to be able to exist. It means providing the full resources and opportunities afforded to any other students. It means formally recognizing them by allowing them to form a student organization just as other students are able to do. It means allowing LGBTQ students a safe place to come together with others who are similar in community and fellowship. If you're LGBTQ you no longer have to hide who you are at Baylor. It shows there is a place for you here.

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1. If gay students can't exist at Baylor before this gay club, who asked to start it?
2. Can you name one resource or opportunity a gay student did not have at Baylor before the gay club?
3. Gay students are prevented from forming student organizations? Can you document?
4. Gay student can't meet together unless there is a gay club? How will gays know there is a new gay club if they can't talk?
5. There were not gays at Baylor before the gay club, none out of the closet?

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It's all about definitions of his words. Allow me to translate:

A. Exist: To exercise control over the university through woke emotional blackmail.
B. Full Resources and Opportunities: Extorting an ostensibly Christian university to fund groups advocating anti-Christian lifestyles.
C. Formally Recognizing: Bowing down to.
D. Safe Place to come together: University funded place to cum together....probably with HIV.
E. No longer have to hide who you are: Assless chaps for every Zie/Zim/Zher/Zhey who wants them!!!

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That is what I figured, and I doubt I will get an answer. As noted, generally these are long on emotional hyperbole and short on specifics. The reality is Baylor has always had its share of gay students. I knew many while I was there. Despite not having wild "Pride" parades and Drag Queen Dr Pepper hour they seemed to have a great experience. To my knowledge, none of them were denied the ability to exist, prevented from starting organizations, develop a community, or even hide. I generally do not understand this requirement that every institution formally recognize every sexual proclivity. I have a few gay friends, and I can assure you their self-worth and happiness is not dependent on being recognized by every institution with a club or a flag.

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1. Its about showing loyalty to the regime that now rules the United States and higher Ed and gaining access to the funding that comes with it.

2. Plus the power thrill that comes from forcing this on the flyover rubes. In a up or down vote the majority of Baylor alumni and students would not support an LGBTQ club on campus...progressives have a lot of fun forcing people to accept things they find abhorrent.

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My daughter just got her ACT scores back. That combined with her honors classes, and stellar GPA mean that she is automatically accepted at Baylor... her first choice.

Now... maybe not so much. One of her other options is John Brown University in rural Arkansas. It is very far from home, and no where close to the name recognition as BU.... but it is still a CHRISTIAN education, and not some watered down BS.

This is probably going to be the final straw for her.

I'm very sad that my university has gone down this road. It leads to absolute hell, and there is nothing redeeming about it.

I only hope that this Trans bull**** will implode upon itself, before my other kids hit college age.

Honest question: Do you think there is any chance that people will wake up and realize just how destructive this trans crap is? People are ruining their bodies and their lives over some depression and feelings of confusion. This has gotten out of control.

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From JBU it is just a short walk across the state line to the Cherokee casino and smoke shop. Whacky tobaccy is legal on both sides of the line and Siloam has its share of fruits walking about. Nearby Gayetteville is awash with freaky living.

Baylor is still her best option, IMO.

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BU should kick them all out of school. Ridiculous that we should have to put up with this bull**** at a private Christian college.

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If they kicked out all the kids who engage in sexual immorality, there wouldn't be many left.

Or do you really think, like old Jack Fields, that you don't have to ask a Baylor girl if she's a virgin? You know she is. LOL.

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No, I just want the homos out.

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I guess the Jesus of love I worship isn't the same as yours. Essentially it's not your call. It's my God and His Son's call. You are neither.

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The tipping point is the discernment between evil and good. Sodom and Gomorrah tilt the evidence his way.

Burchett said one of the key characteristics of Baylor's mission is creating a caring community grounded on its Christian commitment, leading toward the acceptance of the LGBTQ+ community on campus.

"From our perspective, chartering Prism is very much an alignment with creating a caring Christian community for all of our students," Burchett said.

This statement doesn't make sense. A "christian community" at least an authentic one, could and would be able to love an individual without approving of their particular sin. Not only that an authentic community, as would Christ encourage sinful people in the community to "go and sin no more". This community seems to have sanctioned and endorsed sin with an official character. In essence it has failed it's own calling of being Christlike in it's dealing with it's own students. Ignoring the Biblical call to encourage it's student community to be Christlike in it's attitude toward sin.

Baylor seems to feel they are nurturing these students when in fact they are failing them.

It seems the Baptist movement in general is falling away from Christ call to live as strangers in a foreign land, and are embracing the way of this world way to often. Not all Baptist churches, but way too many of them.

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BU should kick them all out of school. Ridiculous that we should have to put up with this bull**** at a private Christian college.

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If they kicked out all the kids who engage in sexual immorality, there wouldn't be many left.

Or do you really think, like old Jack Fields, that you don't have to ask a Baylor girl if she's a virgin? You know she is. LOL.

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No, I just want the homos out.

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pathetic statement. "Stay Classy"

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Nope. Homo has to go.

Baylor pedophilia club by '25.