Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

What is love

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Sin is the garbage you spew on a daily basis. Sin is the hypocrite you are on a daily basis. You claim to be a church leader, you are nothing but a vile excuse of a religious man.

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Quoting Matthew 15:19 - You're being ironic, right?

Bernie Mac knows

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Man, people just see "Waco1947" and love to hate on you… you don't deserve it.

The topic of sin really does fascinate me, especially as you see the rules/commandments of the Bible change and grow throughout the different books. Did God simply change his mind about slavery being a sin over a 1-2000 year period, or did man's understanding of God change/grow? Interesting debate.

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Man, people just see "Waco1947" and love to hate on you… you don't deserve it.

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Then either you don't know the background data ...or don't care.

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Man, people just see "Waco1947" and love to hate on you… you don't deserve it.

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Then either you don't know the background data ...or don't care.

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The Jews hated the Samaritans for their religious views and differences. And what did Jesus tell us to do?

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Man, people just see "Waco1947" and love to hate on you… you don't deserve it.

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Then either you don't know the background data ...or don't care.

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The Jews hated the Samaritans for their religious views and differences. And what did Jesus tell us to do?

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Obvious deflection .

So which is it ?

Don't know or don't care ?

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Man, people just see "Waco1947" and love to hate on you… you don't deserve it.

The topic of sin really does fascinate me, especially as you see the rules/commandments of the Bible change and grow throughout the different books. Did God simply change his mind about slavery being a sin over a 1-2000 year period, or did man's understanding of God change/grow? Interesting debate.

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The dude has purposely pushed souls off the path to God all while masquerading as a minister. You'll find no greater evil than 47.

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Man, people just see "Waco1947" and love to hate on you… you don't deserve it.

The topic of sin really does fascinate me, especially as you see the rules/commandments of the Bible change and grow throughout the different books. Did God simply change his mind about slavery being a sin over a 1-2000 year period, or did man's understanding of God change/grow? Interesting debate.

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The dude has purposely pushed souls off the path to God all while masquerading as a minister. You'll find no greater evil than 47.

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People who do not see faith as necessary in order to be a Christian won't see the offense.

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Man, people just see "Waco1947" and love to hate on you… you don't deserve it.

The topic of sin really does fascinate me, especially as you see the rules/commandments of the Bible change and grow throughout the different books. Did God simply change his mind about slavery being a sin over a 1-2000 year period, or did man's understanding of God change/grow? Interesting debate.

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The dude has purposely pushed souls off the path to God all while masquerading as a minister. You'll find no greater evil than 47.

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Waco47 has repeatedly boasted of counseling dozens of women into having abortions .

While purposely ignoring the emotional and psychological damage that such 'choices' bring to the women involved.

All while under the guise of a 'minister' .

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Man, people just see "Waco1947" and love to hate on you… you don't deserve it.

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Then either you don't know the background data ...or don't care.

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Im relatively new to the dark side of the board. I have gone back & forth though with 47 on some theological topics and he has been one of the most respectful posters

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Man, people just see "Waco1947" and love to hate on you… you don't deserve it.

The topic of sin really does fascinate me, especially as you see the rules/commandments of the Bible change and grow throughout the different books. Did God simply change his mind about slavery being a sin over a 1-2000 year period, or did man's understanding of God change/grow? Interesting debate.

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The dude has purposely pushed souls off the path to God all while masquerading as a minister. You'll find no greater evil than 47.

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So because someone interprets the Bible differently than you do, there is no greater evil? Lmao.

Sin = separation from God

Sun is pretty much everything that enters my mind when I walk thru the bar after 5 pm.

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Man, people just see "Waco1947" and love to hate on you… you don't deserve it.

The topic of sin really does fascinate me, especially as you see the rules/commandments of the Bible change and grow throughout the different books. Did God simply change his mind about slavery being a sin over a 1-2000 year period, or did man's understanding of God change/grow? Interesting debate.

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The dude has purposely pushed souls off the path to God all while masquerading as a minister. You'll find no greater evil than 47.

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So because someone interprets the Bible differently than you do, there is no greater evil? Lmao.

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James 3:1: Not many of you should become teachers,(A) my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged(B) more strictly.

Matt 18:6: But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to fall awayit would be better for him if a heavy millstone were hung around his neck and he were drowned in the depths of the sea. (CSB)

I try to maintain a modicum of respect with 47 even though I find his positions and position of authority in the church very problematic. But scripture is pretty clear that those who are teachers that lead others astray are better off dead.

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Is this supposed to be controversial for Christians?

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Man, people just see "Waco1947" and love to hate on you… you don't deserve it.

The topic of sin really does fascinate me, especially as you see the rules/commandments of the Bible change and grow throughout the different books. Did God simply change his mind about slavery being a sin over a 1-2000 year period, or did man's understanding of God change/grow? Interesting debate.

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The dude has purposely pushed souls off the path to God all while masquerading as a minister. You'll find no greater evil than 47.

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So because someone interprets the Bible differently than you do, there is no greater evil? Lmao.

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James 3:1: Not many of you should become teachers,(A) my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged(B) more strictly.

Matt 18:6: But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to fall awayit would be better for him if a heavy millstone were hung around his neck and he were drowned in the depths of the sea. (CSB)

I try to maintain a modicum of respect with 47 even though I find his positions and position of authority in the church very problematic. But scripture is pretty clear that those who are teachers that lead others astray are better off dead.

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47 has consistently stated that he believes in the good news of Jesus Christ and gave scriptural & personal reasons why.

He is not turning people away from Christianity, but perhaps from your interpretation on what the correct way to practice Christianity is. Can we please not wish death on a fellow brother in Christ just trying to have an honest, theological conversation?

So scripture isn't enough to determine why Christians have a problem with 47? We have to go by feelings when dealing with heretics?

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Man, people just see "Waco1947" and love to hate on you… you don't deserve it.

The topic of sin really does fascinate me, especially as you see the rules/commandments of the Bible change and grow throughout the different books. Did God simply change his mind about slavery being a sin over a 1-2000 year period, or did man's understanding of God change/grow? Interesting debate.

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The dude has purposely pushed souls off the path to God all while masquerading as a minister. You'll find no greater evil than 47.

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So because someone interprets the Bible differently than you do, there is no greater evil? Lmao.

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James 3:1: Not many of you should become teachers,(A) my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged(B) more strictly.

Matt 18:6: But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to fall awayit would be better for him if a heavy millstone were hung around his neck and he were drowned in the depths of the sea. (CSB)

I try to maintain a modicum of respect with 47 even though I find his positions and position of authority in the church very problematic. But scripture is pretty clear that those who are teachers that lead others astray are better off dead.

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47 has consistently stated that he believes in the good news of Jesus Christ and gave scriptural & personal reasons why.

He is not turning people away from Christianity, but perhaps from your interpretation on what the correct way to practice Christianity is. Can we please not wish death on a fellow brother in Christ just trying to have an honest, theological conversation?

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Actually, 47 stated reasons for being Christian do not find any support in the basic tenets of Christianity. I have had numerous discussions with him on this topic. Among other things, he denies the deity of Christ, and believes he is dead. He is purposely vague and inconsistent in his beliefs, which is why it's understandable he has mistakenly led you to believe he believes in the good news of Jesus Christ. But he does not believe that Good News, as it is plainly stated in scripture.

Having different interpretations of scripture is fine. I differ with numerous Christians on my interpretations, as I am sure you do. But I think if you are a Christian, we would both agree there are some basic core beliefs and tenets one must believe in order to actually be Christian. Two of those are tenets I described above - tenets with which 47 differs. And I am sorry, but scripture is clear one's positions on those subjects do indeed separate the wheat from the chaff.

When you preach something other than the Good News of Jesus Christ, you are turning people away from scripture. All of the NT writers talked about these false teachers. Scripture says it would be better for them to be dead. Now, does that mean I wish death on '47? Of course not, and I think you know it was intellectually dishonest and a purposeful mischaracterization on your part to describe my comments as such.

In the future, I would suggest not engaging in false characterizations of others comments. It's not Christ-like.

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So scripture isn't enough to determine why Christians have a problem with 47? We have to go by feelings when dealing with heretics?

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If 47 was acting as a false prophet, giving fake testimony, making up scripture, or just blatantly attempting to turn people away from the faith, sure, I will give you James 3:1 & Matt 18:6 as relevant scriptures.

... but he is not. He is reading & studying the same scripture as you and me and relaying his interpretation of the text.

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So scripture isn't enough to determine why Christians have a problem with 47? We have to go by feelings when dealing with heretics?

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If 47 was acting as a false prophet, giving fake testimony, making up scripture, or just blatantly attempting to turn people away from the faith, sure, I will give you James 3:1 & Matt 18:6 as relevant scriptures.

... but he is not. He is reading & studying the same scripture as you and me and relaying his interpretation of the text.

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Sorry, I've read enough 47 posts to know you either A) have no idea what you're talking about but FEEL bad for the way actual Christians respond to them

or

B) you're just bored and lying in order to get responses.

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So scripture isn't enough to determine why Christians have a problem with 47? We have to go by feelings when dealing with heretics?

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If 47 was acting as a false prophet, giving fake testimony, making up scripture, or just blatantly attempting to turn people away from the faith, sure, I will give you James 3:1 & Matt 18:6 as relevant scriptures.

... but he is not. He is reading & studying the same scripture as you and me and relaying his interpretation of the text.

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Do you believe there are any core tenets of the faith that one must believe in order to be "Christian"? Or is it all just up for grabs, subject to differing interpretations?

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So scripture isn't enough to determine why Christians have a problem with 47? We have to go by feelings when dealing with heretics?

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If 47 was acting as a false prophet, giving fake testimony, making up scripture, or just blatantly attempting to turn people away from the faith, sure, I will give you James 3:1 & Matt 18:6 as relevant scriptures.

... but he is not. He is reading & studying the same scripture as you and me and relaying his interpretation of the text.

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Do you believe there are any core tenets of the faith that one must believe in order to be "Christian"? Or is it all just up for grabs, subject to differing interpretations?

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Across the various denominations of Christianity from 40AD to present, you will find similar core beliefs:

• The Bible is God inspired
• God's the loving parent of all people
• Sinful actions have consequence & separation from God
• Jesus Christ reveals the character and nature of God
• Jesus Christ was crucified
• Jesus Christ was resurrected

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Now, does that mean I wish death on '47? Of course not, and I think you know it was intellectually dishonest and a purposeful mischaracterization on your part to describe my comments as such.

In the future, I would suggest not engaging in false characterizations of others comments. It's not Christ-like.

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My apologies - I misread your previous post. I admittedly assumed you were using the text to allude to that.

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Now, does that mean I wish death on '47? Of course not, and I think you know it was intellectually dishonest and a purposeful mischaracterization on your part to describe my comments as such.

In the future, I would suggest not engaging in false characterizations of others comments. It's not Christ-like.

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My apologies - I misread your previous post. I admittedly assumed you were using the text to allude to that.

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Thank you.

I like to engage with '47, and try to maintain a modicum of respect. Engagement is the only way to change hearts and minds. I don't think he's a bad dude - certainly no worse than myself - just misguided in his beliefs.

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Man, people just see "Waco1947" and love to hate on you… you don't deserve it.

The topic of sin really does fascinate me, especially as you see the rules/commandments of the Bible change and grow throughout the different books. Did God simply change his mind about slavery being a sin over a 1-2000 year period, or did man's understanding of God change/grow? Interesting debate.

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The dude has purposely pushed souls off the path to God all while masquerading as a minister. You'll find no greater evil than 47.

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So because someone interprets the Bible differently than you do, there is no greater evil? Lmao.

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Keep Lmao then. Pretty basic stuff. Have you read his Butt Sex on the Mount sermon? Or his salvation through Baby in a Blender?

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So scripture isn't enough to determine why Christians have a problem with 47? We have to go by feelings when dealing with heretics?

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If 47 was acting as a false prophet, giving fake testimony, making up scripture, or just blatantly attempting to turn people away from the faith, sure, I will give you James 3:1 & Matt 18:6 as relevant scriptures.

... but he is not. He is reading & studying the same scripture as you and me and relaying his interpretation of the text.

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He isn't. Dick in ass salvation does not exist. You know it, we all do.

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So scripture isn't enough to determine why Christians have a problem with 47? We have to go by feelings when dealing with heretics?

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If 47 was acting as a false prophet, giving fake testimony, making up scripture, or just blatantly attempting to turn people away from the faith, sure, I will give you James 3:1 & Matt 18:6 as relevant scriptures.

... but he is not. He is reading & studying the same scripture as you and me and relaying his interpretation of the text.

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He isn't. Dick in ass salvation does not exist. You know it, we all do.

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I must have missed where 47 said that a dick in the ass grants salvation - thank you for the comments.

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So scripture isn't enough to determine why Christians have a problem with 47? We have to go by feelings when dealing with heretics?

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If 47 was acting as a false prophet, giving fake testimony, making up scripture, or just blatantly attempting to turn people away from the faith, sure, I will give you James 3:1 & Matt 18:6 as relevant scriptures.

... but he is not. He is reading & studying the same scripture as you and me and relaying his interpretation of the text.

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He isn't. Dick in ass salvation does not exist. You know it, we all do.

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I must have missed where 47 said that a dick in the ass grants salvation - thank you for the comments.

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New then. Ask him about whether or not you are a sexist if you oppose abortion.

Dude, per his identification, is pure evil.

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Paul Romans 2: For there is no distinction, 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; 24 they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Jesus says in Matthew 15 8 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. 19 For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."

Sin what comes out of our heart. If the heart does not love God with all their heart, and their neighbor as themselves then one can be said to sin.

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Man, people just see "Waco1947" and love to hate on you… you don't deserve it.

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Then either you don't know the background data ...or don't care.

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Im relatively new to the dark side of the board. I have gone back & forth though with 47 on some theological topics and he has been one of the most respectful posters

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Believe you to be sincere in your comments . Respect your kindness .

However I have read Waco47's comments for many years .

At times they are literate…..many other times the sentences are mere jumbles of misspelled words .

The guy claims to be a 'minister'….yet vague about the existence of any physical church or congregation.

Vague about possession of a theological degree from any accredited university .

Yet brags about counseling dozens of women into having abortions . Knowing full well the psychological and emotional damage that often results after such a 'choice '.

The Rickest Rick There Is said:

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FIFY

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So scripture isn't enough to determine why Christians have a problem with 47? We have to go by feelings when dealing with heretics?

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If 47 was acting as a false prophet, giving fake testimony, making up scripture, or just blatantly attempting to turn people away from the faith, sure, I will give you James 3:1 & Matt 18:6 as relevant scriptures.

... but he is not. He is reading & studying the same scripture as you and me and relaying his interpretation of the text.

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Do you believe there are any core tenets of the faith that one must believe in order to be "Christian"? Or is it all just up for grabs, subject to differing interpretations?

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Across the various denominations of Christianity from 40AD to present, you will find similar core beliefs:

• The Bible is God inspired
• God's the loving parent of all people
• Sinful actions have consequence & separation from God
• Jesus Christ reveals the character and nature of God
• Jesus Christ was crucified
• Jesus Christ was resurrected

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Agree with all of these. I think you will find - if you read closely and probe deep enough - that 47 doesn't share several of these core tenets.