Fauci to step down in December

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Doc Holliday
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Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

https://nypost.com/2021/10/21/nih-admits-us-funded-gain-of-function-in-wuhan-despite-faucis-repeated-denials/

t's another Fauci flub.

The National Institutes of Health has stunningly admitted to funding gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses at China's Wuhan lab despite Dr. Anthony Fauci repeatedly insisting to Congress that no such thing happened.

In a letter to Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.) on Wednesday, a top NIH official blamed EcoHealth Alliance the New York City-based nonprofit that has funneled US funds to the Wuhan lab for not being transparent about the work it was doing.

NIH's principal deputy director, Lawrence A. Tabak, wrote in the letter that EcoHealth's "limited experiment" tested whether "spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model."

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DEBUNKED!
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But thanks for confirming that EcoHealth was late reporting its results.

The narrative is shifting towards covid vaccines being inefficient and now the national media is stirring the pot and blaming Trump for fast tracking them.

When the left turns against them, what are you gonna do?
I will be shocked -- shocked! -- to find that the left peddles political BS too.
Lol the left controls the science/medical messaging. All your sources are going to fall in line with whatever narrative they push.
I doubt it. Scientists are human and subject to bias like anyone else, but there is a self-correcting process at work.
Grift is at work and you should be more skeptical that what they're saying is backed by money.

If you think they're honest people, you're making a huge mistake.
Do you know any scientists?
I have a good friend that works in developing pharmaceuticals. He was shocked how much pfizer was able to get around regulations and red tape for covid.

Governments pay scientists to produce results that suit their public policy agendas. Public policy agendas are primarily driven by corporate profit and campaign financing.
Sam Lowry
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Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

https://nypost.com/2021/10/21/nih-admits-us-funded-gain-of-function-in-wuhan-despite-faucis-repeated-denials/

t's another Fauci flub.

The National Institutes of Health has stunningly admitted to funding gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses at China's Wuhan lab despite Dr. Anthony Fauci repeatedly insisting to Congress that no such thing happened.

In a letter to Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.) on Wednesday, a top NIH official blamed EcoHealth Alliance the New York City-based nonprofit that has funneled US funds to the Wuhan lab for not being transparent about the work it was doing.

NIH's principal deputy director, Lawrence A. Tabak, wrote in the letter that EcoHealth's "limited experiment" tested whether "spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model."

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DEBUNKED!
Already addressed on page one. Try to keep up.

But thanks for confirming that EcoHealth was late reporting its results.

The narrative is shifting towards covid vaccines being inefficient and now the national media is stirring the pot and blaming Trump for fast tracking them.

When the left turns against them, what are you gonna do?
I will be shocked -- shocked! -- to find that the left peddles political BS too.
Lol the left controls the science/medical messaging. All your sources are going to fall in line with whatever narrative they push.
I doubt it. Scientists are human and subject to bias like anyone else, but there is a self-correcting process at work.
Grift is at work and you should be more skeptical that what they're saying is backed by money.

If you think they're honest people, you're making a huge mistake.
Do you know any scientists?
I have a good friend that works in developing pharmaceuticals. He was shocked how much pfizer was able to get around regulations and red tape for covid.

Governments pay scientists to produce results that suit their public policy agendas. Public policy agendas are primarily driven by corporate profit and campaign financing.
Profit and ingenuity made this country great. It seems odd that a skeptic of government would want to saddle our inventors with more regulation.
Doc Holliday
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Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

https://nypost.com/2021/10/21/nih-admits-us-funded-gain-of-function-in-wuhan-despite-faucis-repeated-denials/

t's another Fauci flub.

The National Institutes of Health has stunningly admitted to funding gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses at China's Wuhan lab despite Dr. Anthony Fauci repeatedly insisting to Congress that no such thing happened.

In a letter to Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.) on Wednesday, a top NIH official blamed EcoHealth Alliance the New York City-based nonprofit that has funneled US funds to the Wuhan lab for not being transparent about the work it was doing.

NIH's principal deputy director, Lawrence A. Tabak, wrote in the letter that EcoHealth's "limited experiment" tested whether "spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model."

---

DEBUNKED!
Already addressed on page one. Try to keep up.

But thanks for confirming that EcoHealth was late reporting its results.

The narrative is shifting towards covid vaccines being inefficient and now the national media is stirring the pot and blaming Trump for fast tracking them.

When the left turns against them, what are you gonna do?
I will be shocked -- shocked! -- to find that the left peddles political BS too.
Lol the left controls the science/medical messaging. All your sources are going to fall in line with whatever narrative they push.
I doubt it. Scientists are human and subject to bias like anyone else, but there is a self-correcting process at work.
Grift is at work and you should be more skeptical that what they're saying is backed by money.

If you think they're honest people, you're making a huge mistake.
Do you know any scientists?
I have a good friend that works in developing pharmaceuticals. He was shocked how much pfizer was able to get around regulations and red tape for covid.

Governments pay scientists to produce results that suit their public policy agendas. Public policy agendas are primarily driven by corporate profit and campaign financing.
Profit and ingenuity made this country great. It seems odd that a skeptic of government would want to saddle our inventors with more regulation.
Profit has made our country great, but it's also made our government very corrupt.

If you don't believe the top brass at the CDC is making policy to drive profit toward big pharma, and will lie to do so, then you're not being honest.
Sam Lowry
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Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

https://nypost.com/2021/10/21/nih-admits-us-funded-gain-of-function-in-wuhan-despite-faucis-repeated-denials/

t's another Fauci flub.

The National Institutes of Health has stunningly admitted to funding gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses at China's Wuhan lab despite Dr. Anthony Fauci repeatedly insisting to Congress that no such thing happened.

In a letter to Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.) on Wednesday, a top NIH official blamed EcoHealth Alliance the New York City-based nonprofit that has funneled US funds to the Wuhan lab for not being transparent about the work it was doing.

NIH's principal deputy director, Lawrence A. Tabak, wrote in the letter that EcoHealth's "limited experiment" tested whether "spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model."

---

DEBUNKED!
Already addressed on page one. Try to keep up.

But thanks for confirming that EcoHealth was late reporting its results.

The narrative is shifting towards covid vaccines being inefficient and now the national media is stirring the pot and blaming Trump for fast tracking them.

When the left turns against them, what are you gonna do?
I will be shocked -- shocked! -- to find that the left peddles political BS too.
Lol the left controls the science/medical messaging. All your sources are going to fall in line with whatever narrative they push.
I doubt it. Scientists are human and subject to bias like anyone else, but there is a self-correcting process at work.
Grift is at work and you should be more skeptical that what they're saying is backed by money.

If you think they're honest people, you're making a huge mistake.
Do you know any scientists?
I have a good friend that works in developing pharmaceuticals. He was shocked how much pfizer was able to get around regulations and red tape for covid.

Governments pay scientists to produce results that suit their public policy agendas. Public policy agendas are primarily driven by corporate profit and campaign financing.
Profit and ingenuity made this country great. It seems odd that a skeptic of government would want to saddle our inventors with more regulation.
Profit has made our country great, but it's also made our government very corrupt.

If you don't believe the top brass at the CDC is making policy to drive profit toward big pharma, and will lie to do so, then you're not being honest.
I don't know that the CDC is any more prone to lying than, for example, anti-vaccine activists. In any case the national media are not the arbiters of scientific truth.

Also, the Politico piece doesn't really support your position. It accuses Trump of pressuring the FDA to cut corners on the vaccine, but it also notes that Trump's effort failed. That wouldn't happen if scientists were mere pawns of the regime.
LIB,MR BEARS
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Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

https://nypost.com/2021/10/21/nih-admits-us-funded-gain-of-function-in-wuhan-despite-faucis-repeated-denials/

t's another Fauci flub.

The National Institutes of Health has stunningly admitted to funding gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses at China's Wuhan lab despite Dr. Anthony Fauci repeatedly insisting to Congress that no such thing happened.

In a letter to Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.) on Wednesday, a top NIH official blamed EcoHealth Alliance the New York City-based nonprofit that has funneled US funds to the Wuhan lab for not being transparent about the work it was doing.

NIH's principal deputy director, Lawrence A. Tabak, wrote in the letter that EcoHealth's "limited experiment" tested whether "spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model."

---

DEBUNKED!
Already addressed on page one. Try to keep up.

But thanks for confirming that EcoHealth was late reporting its results.

The narrative is shifting towards covid vaccines being inefficient and now the national media is stirring the pot and blaming Trump for fast tracking them.

When the left turns against them, what are you gonna do?
I will be shocked -- shocked! -- to find that the left peddles political BS too.
Lol the left controls the science/medical messaging. All your sources are going to fall in line with whatever narrative they push.
I doubt it. Scientists are human and subject to bias like anyone else, but there is a self-correcting process at work.
Grift is at work and you should be more skeptical that what they're saying is backed by money.

If you think they're honest people, you're making a huge mistake.
Do you know any scientists?
Do you mean people with science degrees that work jobs using scientific method/measurements and often times apply for scientific grants to get money flowing in to fund their work, those people?
LIB,MR BEARS
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Sam, a quick sidebar: how is it that in a legal case both sides can find experts, sometimes trained scientists, in a field that have opposing views after looking at the same data?

How is it that oftentimes an attorney will go back to the same scientist/expert case after case for supporting testimony?

You don't suppose some scientists compromise their positions in exchange for a buck, do ya?
Sam Lowry
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Sam, a quick sidebar: how is it that in a legal case both sides can find experts, sometimes trained scientists, in a field that have opposing views after looking at the same data?

How is it that oftentimes an attorney will go back to the same scientist/expert case after case for supporting testimony?

You don't suppose some scientists compromise their positions in exchange for a buck, do ya?
Sure, but their testimony is subject to cross-examination and rebuttal in order to determine the truth. Peer review serves the same purpose in a somewhat different way.
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Sam, a quick sidebar: how is it that in a legal case both sides can find experts, sometimes trained scientists, in a field that have opposing views after looking at the same data?

How is it that oftentimes an attorney will go back to the same scientist/expert case after case for supporting testimony?

You don't suppose some scientists compromise their positions in exchange for a buck, do ya?
There is an entire industry of "experts" that can be paid to testify to just about anything. Of course that is hypothetical, but that is why you frequently see defense "experts" testifying a victim of a gunshot wound actually died of strangulation.

Not hypothetically, you can see by Fauci's (pre-emptive DEBUNKED) emails he used his power of federal funding to bully dissent.

Fauci's core problem - a similar mistake he made when he royally screwed up the government's response to AIDS - is he may be the one man in the world with a bigger ego than Trump, and he speaks authoritatively about complicated, evolving actual science and falls into ultracrepidarianism. If you listen to actual epidemiologists many of them had a more measured tone. The guys like Scott Atlas and others were much more humble about what they knew and what they did not know.
Sam Lowry
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Harrison Bergeron said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Sam, a quick sidebar: how is it that in a legal case both sides can find experts, sometimes trained scientists, in a field that have opposing views after looking at the same data?

How is it that oftentimes an attorney will go back to the same scientist/expert case after case for supporting testimony?

You don't suppose some scientists compromise their positions in exchange for a buck, do ya?
There is an entire industry of "experts" that can be paid to testify to just about anything. Of course that is hypothetical, but that is why you frequently see defense "experts" testifying a victim of a gunshot wound actually died of strangulation.

Not hypothetically, you can see by Fauci's (pre-emptive DEBUNKED) emails he used his power of federal funding to bully dissent.

Fauci's core problem - a similar mistake he made when he royally screwed up the government's response to AIDS - is he may be the one man in the world with a bigger ego than Trump, and he speaks authoritatively about complicated, evolving actual science and falls into ultracrepidarianism. If you listen to actual epidemiologists many of them had a more measured tone. The guys like Scott Atlas and others were much more humble about what they knew and what they did not know.
If you actually listened to Fauci, his statements were very measured. The typical tin-foiler response was to drastically oversimplify them and then accuse him of backpedaling or lying when he tried to clarify. Atlas is not an actual epidemiologist, BTW.
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Porteroso
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Married A Horn said:

Oh look, a liberal trying not to allow people to have thoughts.

Elitist

Aren't you the poster who claimed to tell her kids all Democrats are evil, and they can never change? But once you say something factually incorrect misrepresented as a guess, you want to pretend you care about people's thoughts? Surely you just mean your own.

Great example of how Republicans and Democrats have lost the spirit of the country. They all go to war to erase each other's thoughts words and actions, but claim to actually be the victims of said war.
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I tried to read thru your garbage...oh wait, I was mistaken - I didn't.
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Porteroso
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Married A Horn said:

I tried to read thru your garbage...oh wait, I was mistaken - I didn't.

Bragging about not reading..... Bold move. I'm sure you're a hero in your own mind.
Married A Horn
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You're one in no one's mind.
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Sam Lowry
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Porteroso said:

Married A Horn said:

I tried to read thru your garbage...oh wait, I was mistaken - I didn't.

Bragging about not reading..... Bold move. I'm sure you're a hero in your own mind.
He does it often. It usually means you made a good point.
Harrison Bergeron
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Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Sam, a quick sidebar: how is it that in a legal case both sides can find experts, sometimes trained scientists, in a field that have opposing views after looking at the same data?

How is it that oftentimes an attorney will go back to the same scientist/expert case after case for supporting testimony?

You don't suppose some scientists compromise their positions in exchange for a buck, do ya?
There is an entire industry of "experts" that can be paid to testify to just about anything. Of course that is hypothetical, but that is why you frequently see defense "experts" testifying a victim of a gunshot wound actually died of strangulation.

Not hypothetically, you can see by Fauci's (pre-emptive DEBUNKED) emails he used his power of federal funding to bully dissent.

Fauci's core problem - a similar mistake he made when he royally screwed up the government's response to AIDS - is he may be the one man in the world with a bigger ego than Trump, and he speaks authoritatively about complicated, evolving actual science and falls into ultracrepidarianism. If you listen to actual epidemiologists many of them had a more measured tone. The guys like Scott Atlas and others were much more humble about what they knew and what they did not know.
If you actually listened to Fauci, his statements were very measured. The typical tin-foiler response was to drastically oversimplify them and then accuse him of backpedaling or lying when he tried to clarify. Atlas is not an actual epidemiologist, BTW.


Threatening and bullying dissent has been redefined as "measured?"

How do you breath in your tinfoil mask?
Sam Lowry
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Sam, a quick sidebar: how is it that in a legal case both sides can find experts, sometimes trained scientists, in a field that have opposing views after looking at the same data?

How is it that oftentimes an attorney will go back to the same scientist/expert case after case for supporting testimony?

You don't suppose some scientists compromise their positions in exchange for a buck, do ya?
There is an entire industry of "experts" that can be paid to testify to just about anything. Of course that is hypothetical, but that is why you frequently see defense "experts" testifying a victim of a gunshot wound actually died of strangulation.

Not hypothetically, you can see by Fauci's (pre-emptive DEBUNKED) emails he used his power of federal funding to bully dissent.

Fauci's core problem - a similar mistake he made when he royally screwed up the government's response to AIDS - is he may be the one man in the world with a bigger ego than Trump, and he speaks authoritatively about complicated, evolving actual science and falls into ultracrepidarianism. If you listen to actual epidemiologists many of them had a more measured tone. The guys like Scott Atlas and others were much more humble about what they knew and what they did not know.
If you actually listened to Fauci, his statements were very measured. The typical tin-foiler response was to drastically oversimplify them and then accuse him of backpedaling or lying when he tried to clarify. Atlas is not an actual epidemiologist, BTW.


Threatening and bullying dissent has been redefined as "measured?"

How do you breath in your tinfoil mask?
That was debunked, remember?
LIB,MR BEARS
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WacoKelly83 said:


replacing mean tweets with mean speech isn't a good thing. He'd already made his point.

Ron, don't give the left and msm easy ammo to use against you. At least make them work hard to find stuff or to take stuff out of context so it can be turned back around and used against them. You didn't gain MAGA voters but you may have turned away some never trumpers
BearFan33
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

WacoKelly83 said:


replacing mean tweets with mean speech isn't a good thing. He'd already made his point.

Ron, don't give the left and msm easy ammo to use against you. At least make them work hard to find stuff or to take stuff out of context so it can be turned back around and used against them. You didn't gain MAGA voters but you may have turned away some never trumpers
Ron has a lot going for him, he doesn't need to act like a democrat.
 
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