Waco1947 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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So why do you refuse to answer?

Do you support any restrictions on abortion or not? If yes, what are they?

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I am not qualified to answer that medical/mother decision. Are you?

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I appreciate you response. I honestly don't know how to square your opposition with your seeming support.

Yes. I am absolutely qualified to have an opinion. Having a vagina or being a mother does not provide unique insight. That's like saying only landowning taxpayers should vote. Our system does not work that way. We constantly weigh in on legal and moral questions that may not directly affect us.

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Legal and moral yes but a woman's health decision No

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I genuinely don't know if you're naive or just wedded to Talking Points. That's not how legislation and regulations work. Your position seems to be only people affected by a policy should have a voice, which I suspect is not true. I suppose you do not believe only those that pay federal income tax should vote in federal elections. That's not how any of this works.

Do you favor completely unregulated medical care where doctors and patients can do anything or is this a special case.

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Red herring. Regulation is your word not mine. It's a rights issue as in Right to Privacy.

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That's clearly incorrect.

So there should be or should not be regulation or legislation around medical procedures or left completely to a doctor and patient? Why should abortion be treated differently?

Abortion is regulated but the decision cannot regulated. It's none of your business or the government's business.

Waco1947 said:

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Abortion is regulated but the decision cannot regulated. It's none of your business or the government's business.

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Okay. I think that makes sense. But I assume you appreciate that decision - and many of life's decisions - do directly confront regulation and legislation.

Waco1947 said:

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Abortion is regulated but the decision cannot regulated. It's none of your business or the government's business.

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It is the government's business because it involves an individual human offspring getting killed. Even in Roe v Wade the government has rightly claimed an interest in protecting the rights of unborn human offspring. They just drew an arbitrary line and said the government did not have an interest before a certain number of weeks.

Waco1947 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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So why do you refuse to answer?

Do you support any restrictions on abortion or not? If yes, what are they?

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I am not qualified to answer that medical/mother decision. Are you?

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I appreciate you response. I honestly don't know how to square your opposition with your seeming support.

Yes. I am absolutely qualified to have an opinion. Having a vagina or being a mother does not provide unique insight. That's like saying only landowning taxpayers should vote. Our system does not work that way. We constantly weigh in on legal and moral questions that may not directly affect us.

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Legal and moral yes but a woman's health decision No

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I genuinely don't know if you're naive or just wedded to Talking Points. That's not how legislation and regulations work. Your position seems to be only people affected by a policy should have a voice, which I suspect is not true. I suppose you do not believe only those that pay federal income tax should vote in federal elections. That's not how any of this works.

Do you favor completely unregulated medical care where doctors and patients can do anything or is this a special case.

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Red herring. Regulation is your word not mine. It's a rights issue as in Right to Privacy.

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Yes, killing a baby should be a private matter?

Waco1947 said:

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Abortion is regulated but the decision cannot regulated. It's none of your business or the government's business.

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In every State in history that we have records for murder has been regulated and forbidden by governments.

Abortion is no different.

D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Abortion is regulated but the decision cannot regulated. It's none of your business or the government's business.

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It is the government's business because it involves an individual human offspring getting killed. Even in Roe v Wade the government has rightly claimed an interest in protecting the rights of unborn human offspring. They just drew an arbitrary line and said the government did not have an interest before a certain number of weeks.

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That's why much of the progressive's have radicalized well beyond Roe. If you believe it is solely the "mother's decision" and "my body, my choice," then you have no logical option than to support "abortion" up and until the baby is out of the mother's body ... hence post-birth abortion. For all the hysterical disinformation about Republicans being "radical," it is the Democrats who have moved from "safe, legal, and rare" to basically unrestricted. Conversely, Republicans position has been consistent for 50 years: 1) Roe was a terrible decision; 2) it is a state-level issue; 3) oppose abortion in the states.

This odd talking point that abortion should be uniquely unregulated as a medical procedure for purely political - not medical - reasons is similarly inconsistent.

Waco1947 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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So why do you refuse to answer?

Do you support any restrictions on abortion or not? If yes, what are they?

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I am not qualified to answer that medical/mother decision. Are you?

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I appreciate you response. I honestly don't know how to square your opposition with your seeming support.

Yes. I am absolutely qualified to have an opinion. Having a vagina or being a mother does not provide unique insight. That's like saying only landowning taxpayers should vote. Our system does not work that way. We constantly weigh in on legal and moral questions that may not directly affect us.

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Legal and moral yes but a woman's health decision No

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I genuinely don't know if you're naive or just wedded to Talking Points. That's not how legislation and regulations work. Your position seems to be only people affected by a policy should have a voice, which I suspect is not true. I suppose you do not believe only those that pay federal income tax should vote in federal elections. That's not how any of this works.

Do you favor completely unregulated medical care where doctors and patients can do anything or is this a special case.

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Red herring. Regulation is your word not mine. It's a rights issue as in Right to Privacy.

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if the doctor calls CPS after you beat your kid bad enough to need a hospital, did they violate your right to privacy?

4th and Inches said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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So why do you refuse to answer?

Do you support any restrictions on abortion or not? If yes, what are they?

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I am not qualified to answer that medical/mother decision. Are you?

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I appreciate you response. I honestly don't know how to square your opposition with your seeming support.

Yes. I am absolutely qualified to have an opinion. Having a vagina or being a mother does not provide unique insight. That's like saying only landowning taxpayers should vote. Our system does not work that way. We constantly weigh in on legal and moral questions that may not directly affect us.

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Legal and moral yes but a woman's health decision No

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I genuinely don't know if you're naive or just wedded to Talking Points. That's not how legislation and regulations work. Your position seems to be only people affected by a policy should have a voice, which I suspect is not true. I suppose you do not believe only those that pay federal income tax should vote in federal elections. That's not how any of this works.

Do you favor completely unregulated medical care where doctors and patients can do anything or is this a special case.

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Red herring. Regulation is your word not mine. It's a rights issue as in Right to Privacy.

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if the doctor calls CPS after you beat your kid bad enough to need a hospital, did they violate your right to privacy?

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DEBUNKED! Red herring. Privacy, laws, regulations, "my body, my choice" only applies to killing babies."

D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Abortion is regulated but the decision cannot regulated. It's none of your business or the government's business.

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It is the government's business because it involves an individual human offspring getting killed. Even in Roe v Wade the government has rightly claimed an interest in protecting the rights of unborn human offspring. They just drew an arbitrary line and said the government did not have an interest before a certain number of weeks.

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The fetus is not a human yet but over and above that medical fact is the woman's right to our her own medical decision. The government cannot and should not start listing "acceptable medical abortion".

Waco: "The fetus is not a human"

That is a lie. Hate it as you do, a human fetus is a human.

If that fetus comes to term, a human baby is born, so it is a human fetus.

Denying it only proves you a liar.

And the legal privilege to kill a human fetus is not a "right", nor does any doctor in the world have the ability to define it as a right.

Waco1947 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Abortion is regulated but the decision cannot regulated. It's none of your business or the government's business.

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It is the government's business because it involves an individual human offspring getting killed. Even in Roe v Wade the government has rightly claimed an interest in protecting the rights of unborn human offspring. They just drew an arbitrary line and said the government did not have an interest before a certain number of weeks.

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The fetus is not a human yet but over and above that medical fact is the woman's right to our her own medical decision. The government cannot and should not start listing "acceptable medical abortion".

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I'll bite. I've asked you multiple times. In your opinion, when is the fetus human? When would you support limiting abortion?

Governments regulate all kinds of health care. Why should this be different?

Waco1947 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Abortion is regulated but the decision cannot regulated. It's none of your business or the government's business.

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It is the government's business because it involves an individual human offspring getting killed. Even in Roe v Wade the government has rightly claimed an interest in protecting the rights of unborn human offspring. They just drew an arbitrary line and said the government did not have an interest before a certain number of weeks.

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The fetus is not a human yet but over and above that medical fact is the woman's right to our her own medical decision. The government cannot and should not start listing "acceptable medical abortion".

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The fetus is not human …..yet .

Spoken like a semi literate graduate of an unaccredited 'college'.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Waco1947 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Abortion is regulated but the decision cannot regulated. It's none of your business or the government's business.

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It is the government's business because it involves an individual human offspring getting killed. Even in Roe v Wade the government has rightly claimed an interest in protecting the rights of unborn human offspring. They just drew an arbitrary line and said the government did not have an interest before a certain number of weeks.

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The fetus is not a human yet but over and above that medical fact is the woman's right to our her own medical decision. The government cannot and should not start listing "acceptable medical abortion".

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I'll bite. I've asked you multiple times. In your opinion, when is the fetus human? When would you support limiting abortion?

Governments regulate all kinds of health care. Why should this be different?

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In Colorado abortions can now be performed at ANY time prior to actual birth .

So in 47's warped view even an 8 month pregnancy does not involve a human .

Waco1947 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Abortion is regulated but the decision cannot regulated. It's none of your business or the government's business.

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It is the government's business because it involves an individual human offspring getting killed. Even in Roe v Wade the government has rightly claimed an interest in protecting the rights of unborn human offspring. They just drew an arbitrary line and said the government did not have an interest before a certain number of weeks.

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The fetus is not a human yet but over and above that medical fact is the woman's right to our her own medical decision. The government cannot and should not start listing "acceptable medical abortion".

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A pig fetus is not human, but a human fetus is human. You need to believe the science on this. A human fetus is a live human being by any rational definition.

Advocates of slavery made the same argument that you do: that the human isn't actually human in this instance. It is the same quality of argument, too.

Waco1947 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Abortion is regulated but the decision cannot regulated. It's none of your business or the government's business.

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It is the government's business because it involves an individual human offspring getting killed. Even in Roe v Wade the government has rightly claimed an interest in protecting the rights of unborn human offspring. They just drew an arbitrary line and said the government did not have an interest before a certain number of weeks.

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The fetus is not a human yet but over and above that medical fact is the woman's right to our her own medical decision. The government cannot and should not start listing "acceptable medical abortion".

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Etymology. Borrowed from Latin, fetus ("offspring").

D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Abortion is regulated but the decision cannot regulated. It's none of your business or the government's business.

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It is the government's business because it involves an individual human offspring getting killed. Even in Roe v Wade the government has rightly claimed an interest in protecting the rights of unborn human offspring. They just drew an arbitrary line and said the government did not have an interest before a certain number of weeks.

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The fetus is not a human yet but over and above that medical fact is the woman's right to our her own medical decision. The government cannot and should not start listing "acceptable medical abortion".

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A pig fetus is not human, but a human fetus is human. You need to believe the science on this. A human fetus is a live human being by any rational definition.

Advocates of slavery made the same argument that you do: that the human isn't actually human in this instance. It is the same quality of argument, too.

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To be consistent, 47 and his ilk probably believe a fetus is 3/5 a human.

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Waco: "The fetus is not a human"

That is a lie. Hate it as you do, a human fetus is a human.

If that fetus comes to term, a human baby is born, so it is a human fetus.

Denying it only proves you a liar.

And the legal privilege to kill a human fetus is not a "right", nor does any doctor in the world have the ability to define it as a right.

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A fetus is not a a human

Canada2017 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Waco1947 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Abortion is regulated but the decision cannot regulated. It's none of your business or the government's business.

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It is the government's business because it involves an individual human offspring getting killed. Even in Roe v Wade the government has rightly claimed an interest in protecting the rights of unborn human offspring. They just drew an arbitrary line and said the government did not have an interest before a certain number of weeks.

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The fetus is not a human yet but over and above that medical fact is the woman's right to our her own medical decision. The government cannot and should not start listing "acceptable medical abortion".

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I'll bite. I've asked you multiple times. In your opinion, when is the fetus human? When would you support limiting abortion?

Governments regulate all kinds of health care. Why should this be different?

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In Colorado abortions can now be performed at ANY time prior to actual birth .

So in 47's warped view even an 8 month pregnancy does not involve a human .

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Oddly you can hear him squirm because he knows the answer but is so loyal to the regime talking points.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Waco1947 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Abortion is regulated but the decision cannot regulated. It's none of your business or the government's business.

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It is the government's business because it involves an individual human offspring getting killed. Even in Roe v Wade the government has rightly claimed an interest in protecting the rights of unborn human offspring. They just drew an arbitrary line and said the government did not have an interest before a certain number of weeks.

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The fetus is not a human yet but over and above that medical fact is the woman's right to our her own medical decision. The government cannot and should not start listing "acceptable medical abortion".

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I'll bite. I've asked you multiple times. In your opinion, when is the fetus human? When would you support limiting abortion?

Governments regulate all kinds of health care. Why should this be different?

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In Colorado abortions can now be performed at ANY time prior to actual birth .

So in 47's warped view even an 8 month pregnancy does not involve a human .

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Oddly you can hear him squirm because he knows the answer but is so loyal to the regime talking points.

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Talking points and his bedtime cookies is all he has left in life.

Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco: "The fetus is not a human"

That is a lie. Hate it as you do, a human fetus is a human.

If that fetus comes to term, a human baby is born, so it is a human fetus.

Denying it only proves you a liar.

And the legal privilege to kill a human fetus is not a "right", nor does any doctor in the world have the ability to define it as a right.

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A fetus is not a a human

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A human fetus is a human.

Has always been a human, will always be a human.

Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco: "The fetus is not a human"

That is a lie. Hate it as you do, a human fetus is a human.

If that fetus comes to term, a human baby is born, so it is a human fetus.

Denying it only proves you a liar.

And the legal privilege to kill a human fetus is not a "right", nor does any doctor in the world have the ability to define it as a right.

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A fetus is not a a human

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At what point does the fetus magically become human?

Mothra said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco: "The fetus is not a human"

That is a lie. Hate it as you do, a human fetus is a human.

If that fetus comes to term, a human baby is born, so it is a human fetus.

Denying it only proves you a liar.

And the legal privilege to kill a human fetus is not a "right", nor does any doctor in the world have the ability to define it as a right.

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A fetus is not a a human

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At what point does the fetus magically become human?

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My guess is Waco will think

'The first time it votes Democrat'

but he will not say that.

Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco: "The fetus is not a human"

That is a lie. Hate it as you do, a human fetus is a human.

If that fetus comes to term, a human baby is born, so it is a human fetus.

Denying it only proves you a liar.

And the legal privilege to kill a human fetus is not a "right", nor does any doctor in the world have the ability to define it as a right.

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A festus is not a a human

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Well, I fer dang sure mos' cartinly am!




(Original post edited... but edited post is of the same quality as the original.)

Naaah, yours is superior!

Mothra said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco: "The fetus is not a human"

That is a lie. Hate it as you do, a human fetus is a human.

If that fetus comes to term, a human baby is born, so it is a human fetus.

Denying it only proves you a liar.

And the legal privilege to kill a human fetus is not a "right", nor does any doctor in the world have the ability to define it as a right.

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A fetus is not a a human

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At what point does the fetus magically become human?

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47 will never give a straight answer for such a question .

Mothra said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco: "The fetus is not a human"

That is a lie. Hate it as you do, a human fetus is a human.

If that fetus comes to term, a human baby is born, so it is a human fetus.

Denying it only proves you a liar.

And the legal privilege to kill a human fetus is not a "right", nor does any doctor in the world have the ability to define it as a right.

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A fetus is not a a human

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At what point does the fetus magically become human?

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at the same point an acorn becomes an oak tree

Or something like that..

Oldbear83 said:

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Mothra said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco: "The fetus is not a human"

That is a lie. Hate it as you do, a human fetus is a human.

If that fetus comes to term, a human baby is born, so it is a human fetus.

Denying it only proves you a liar.

And the legal privilege to kill a human fetus is not a "right", nor does any doctor in the world have the ability to define it as a right.

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A fetus is not a a human

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At what point does the fetus magically become human?

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My guess is Waco will think

'The first time it votes Democrat'

but he will not say that.

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Ding ding ding! Illegal immigration will be stopped after 11-6.

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Mothra said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco: "The fetus is not a human"

That is a lie. Hate it as you do, a human fetus is a human.

If that fetus comes to term, a human baby is born, so it is a human fetus.

Denying it only proves you a liar.

And the legal privilege to kill a human fetus is not a "right", nor does any doctor in the world have the ability to define it as a right.

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A fetus is not a a human

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At what point does the fetus magically become human?

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47 will never give a straight answer for such a question .

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But will label as homophobic your demand for a straight answer.

whitetrash said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Mothra said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco: "The fetus is not a human"

That is a lie. Hate it as you do, a human fetus is a human.

If that fetus comes to term, a human baby is born, so it is a human fetus.

Denying it only proves you a liar.

And the legal privilege to kill a human fetus is not a "right", nor does any doctor in the world have the ability to define it as a right.

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A fetus is not a a human

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At what point does the fetus magically become human?

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47 will never give a straight answer for such a question .

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But will label as homophobic your demand for a straight answer.

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Possibly

The old fella is as dumb as they come .

I don't think he's stupid just blindly partisan. Some posters I disagree with at least can layout and argument and debate. The nonstop tropes and talking points get old.

Mothra said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco: "The fetus is not a human"

That is a lie. Hate it as you do, a human fetus is a human.

If that fetus comes to term, a human baby is born, so it is a human fetus.

Denying it only proves you a liar.

And the legal privilege to kill a human fetus is not a "right", nor does any doctor in the world have the ability to define it as a right.

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A fetus is not a a human

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At what point does the fetus magically become human?

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Good question. What say you? Is it at conception? If one uses contraception is one aborting a pregnancy?

Waco1947 said:

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Mothra said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco: "The fetus is not a human"

That is a lie. Hate it as you do, a human fetus is a human.

If that fetus comes to term, a human baby is born, so it is a human fetus.

Denying it only proves you a liar.

And the legal privilege to kill a human fetus is not a "right", nor does any doctor in the world have the ability to define it as a right.

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A fetus is not a a human

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At what point does the fetus magically become human?

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Good question. What say you? Is it at conception? If one uses contraception is one aborting a pregnancy?

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Since you want to pay for killing them, it would seem to be incumbent on you to answer that question.

Waco1947 said:

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Mothra said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco: "The fetus is not a human"

That is a lie. Hate it as you do, a human fetus is a human.

If that fetus comes to term, a human baby is born, so it is a human fetus.

Denying it only proves you a liar.

And the legal privilege to kill a human fetus is not a "right", nor does any doctor in the world have the ability to define it as a right.

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A fetus is not a a human

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At what point does the fetus magically become human?

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Good question. What say you? Is it at conception? If one uses contraception is one aborting a pregnancy?

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Look Eugenicist .... do you support any limits on murdering BIPOC babies? If so - tell us.

Waco1947 said:

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Mothra said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco: "The fetus is not a human"

That is a lie. Hate it as you do, a human fetus is a human.

If that fetus comes to term, a human baby is born, so it is a human fetus.

Denying it only proves you a liar.

And the legal privilege to kill a human fetus is not a "right", nor does any doctor in the world have the ability to define it as a right.

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A fetus is not a a human

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At what point does the fetus magically become human?

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Good question. What say you? Is it at conception? If one uses contraception is one aborting a pregnancy?

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It's a good question? You seemed so certain (almost flippant) of your position that abortion is merely ending the existence of a non-human. I'm surprised.

I'll give you my answer after you answer the question posed. I'd like to know your answer since I asked first.