https://www.kwtx.com/2023/04/08/texas-couple-who-had-home-birth-say-their-child-was-wrongfully-taken-by-department-family-protective-services/

I usually side with the police but this doesnt sound right.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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https://www.kwtx.com/2023/04/08/texas-couple-who-had-home-birth-say-their-child-was-wrongfully-taken-by-department-family-protective-services/

I usually side with the police but this doesnt sound right.

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Makes you wonder if the pediatrician is getting kickbacks from the hospital. Sounds to me like the couple did everything right.

The midwife should have been arrested too. A home birth after 2 prior c-sections is reckless. And the pediatrician absolutely did the right thing. That level of hyerbilirubinemia is dangerous and requires hospitalization for treatment. Those parents are nuts.

It has become common for women to have natural birth after c sections.

"Vaginal birth after cesarean section (VBAC) often is an option. In fact, studies have shown a 60 to 80 percent success rate for women who attempt VBAC. The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists has recommended VBAC as a safe and appropriate choice for most women who have had a prior C-section."

I know the old rule used to be once you had a C all the rest must be C. This is no longer the rule. Started changing about 25 years ago.

It seems like a violation of HIPPA but the state follows different rules.

The biliruben was high but it can be treated at home with bili lights. The parents had already bought the equipment.


It seems like shoddy police work with all the wrong names.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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It has become common for women to have natural birth after c sections.

"Vaginal birth after cesarean section (VBAC) often is an option. In fact, studies have shown a 60 to 80 percent success rate for women who attempt VBAC. The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists has recommended VBAC as a safe and appropriate choice for most women who have had a prior C-section."

I know the old rule used to be once you had a C all the rest must be C. This is no longer the rule. Started changing about 25 years ago.

RDY, I think the dr. is bound by law to report this. It seems like a violation of HIPPA but the state follows different rules.

It seems like shoddy police work with all the wrong names.

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I'm sorry you're too dumb to understand this. A VBAC is a high risk delivery in controlled setting in the hospital where you can be immediately wheeled over to the OR for a c-section if the uterus ruptures, which is the major risk. The mom and the baby are SOL if a dumb midwife attempts a VBAC at home and the uterus ruptures in that 20-40 percent of VBACs that fail, putting both the mom and baby at significant risk of death. You should stop posting on this topic now.

And I'm sure the midwife is great. After all, she's done over 100 deliveries. But how many crash repeat sections has she done in a bathtub?

Edit: the midwife wasn't even a nurse midwife but rather a lay midwife, whose only medical qualification is witnessing a handful of deliveries.

Lol, and where are these grade A parents going to get the UV lights and incubator necessary to treat their baby's very high and risky hyperbilirunemia? Probably from their fearless midwife, right?

You gotta love LIQRIPU…seldom right but never in doubt

https://www.thewomens.org.au/health-information/at-home-with-your-baby/phototherapy-at-home

Btw, HBAC are becoming more and more common.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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https://www.thewomens.org.au/health-information/at-home-with-your-baby/phototherapy-at-home

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I know what phototherapy is, genius. But you understand that you have to have the baby's skin exposed for the phototherapy to work. I'm sure that you also understand that babies aren't able to regulate their body temperature well enough and get hypothermic without proper coverage and that babies who require phototherapy also need an incubator to stay warm. And finally, I'm sure that these stellar parents would be fine figuring out just how much therapy their baby would need without the help of their physician. I'm beginning think your parents refused phototherapy for your hyperbilirubinemia too.

Thanks for the insults.

How do I get the biliblanket? The company that provides biliblankets is called Apria. After Apria receives the order for a biliblanket from your Kaiser pedidatrician (which might take 1-2 hours), Apria should deliver the biliblanket to your home within the next 4 hours. If you have not received the biliblanket within 6-8 hours, please call Apria. How do I use the biliblanket? Apria will instruct you in how to turn on and off the biliblanket, and how to apply it.

The biliblanket should always be set to the "high" setting which is setting 2. The biliblanket needs to be used as close to 24 hours a day as possible to provide continuous treatment. With this convenient form of phototherapy, your child can be diapered, clothed, held, and nursed during treatment. The booklet that Apria will supply with the biliblanket is illustrated to show how you may clothe your baby while using the biliblanket. The blanket should not produce significant amounts of heat, but if your baby feels warm then use less layers of clothing.

How long will the biliblanket be used on my baby? Blood will be drawn and tested during treatment to check bilirubin levels and determine when normal levels are reached and phototherapy is no longer needed. The length of time phototherapy treatment is needed varies from one baby to the next as each baby's condition is different. Most babies have phototherapy treatment for several days. Your baby will have a follow up bilirubin determination done 2 days after stopping home phototherapy.

Do not call Apria to pick up the biliblanket until you discuss the result with your pediatrician.

And before you post your next link from web MD…I'm a physician, my wife is an OB-GYN and I was raised in a house with a father who is a pediatrician. I promise you that I have forgotten more on this topic than you will ever know.

I have pulled a lot of calves and turned a few kids stuck in a nanny.

I certainly do not know as much as you or your wife or your father and will stop .

Where is the line between the states right to seize a child and the parents right to provide care. I remember the debates when some religious groups would deny blood transfusions. Is it common for the state to take over on the advice of a pediatrician?

Thanks for cutting and pasting information about the biliblanket, which is indicated for a bilirubin between 14 and 18. Unfortunately this baby's bilirubin was over 20, making this therapy inappropriate for this child and putting this child at significant risk. I'm glad you're concerned about the state infringing on parents' rights, but in this case, it was totally appropriate. Stick to farm animals.

Probably good advice.

My purpose in pointing out this situation was to discuss what i think is the overreaching of the local goverments involvement.

I did learn a lot though readimg about infantile jaundice.