Active shooter at the outlet malls in Allen

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Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller_bf said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

contrario said:

As soon as I saw the media wasn't immediately releasing the race of the person, I knew it wasn't a white male. And since it isn't a white male shooter, this story will die within a week.
The 33-year-old gunman who opened fire on an outlet mall in a Dallas suburb Saturday, killing at least eight people, had an apparent fascination with white supremacist or neo-Nazi beliefs that are now being examined by investigators as a possible motive for the attack, people familiar with the investigation said Sunday.

Kind of odd to say he's a white supremacist, weren't the victims white?


That's an American mall. It's extremely probable that multiple races will be victims.

Remember, the bullet doesn't care.
More like Maurico Martinez Garcia didn't care. A bullet is an inanimate object, it takes a murdering hateful human to kill someone.
With a gun
The misuse of a gun/rifle/knife/car/fentanyl/bat/club or any number of other objects. Fentanyl is killing way more than guns. It is called overdose, it isn't. If any of it is in a pill, death is very possible. Putting fentanyl in a pill is murder. Cain killed Abel with a stone. The heart of a person kills, the object used varies. Our murderous society is caused by a heart problem. 12[url=https://biblehub.com/greek/2532.htm][/url] Because of the multiplication of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold.
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Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller_bf said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

contrario said:

As soon as I saw the media wasn't immediately releasing the race of the person, I knew it wasn't a white male. And since it isn't a white male shooter, this story will die within a week.
The 33-year-old gunman who opened fire on an outlet mall in a Dallas suburb Saturday, killing at least eight people, had an apparent fascination with white supremacist or neo-Nazi beliefs that are now being examined by investigators as a possible motive for the attack, people familiar with the investigation said Sunday.

Kind of odd to say he's a white supremacist, weren't the victims white?


That's an American mall. It's extremely probable that multiple races will be victims.

Remember, the bullet doesn't care.
More like Maurico Martinez Garcia didn't care. A bullet is an inanimate object, it takes a murdering hateful human to kill someone.
With a gun
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Forest Bueller_bf said:

Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller_bf said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

contrario said:

As soon as I saw the media wasn't immediately releasing the race of the person, I knew it wasn't a white male. And since it isn't a white male shooter, this story will die within a week.
The 33-year-old gunman who opened fire on an outlet mall in a Dallas suburb Saturday, killing at least eight people, had an apparent fascination with white supremacist or neo-Nazi beliefs that are now being examined by investigators as a possible motive for the attack, people familiar with the investigation said Sunday.

Kind of odd to say he's a white supremacist, weren't the victims white?


That's an American mall. It's extremely probable that multiple races will be victims.

Remember, the bullet doesn't care.
More like Maurico Martinez Garcia didn't care. A bullet is an inanimate object, it takes a murdering hateful human to kill someone.
With a gun
The misuse of a gun/rifle/knife/car/fentanyl/bat/club or any number of other objects. Fentanyl is killing way more than guns. It is called overdose, it isn't. If any of it is in a pill, death is very possible. Putting fentanyl in a pill is murder.
Absolutely right . But strange as it seems, many in our current society want legal access to more drugs .

Inevitably resulting in even more death, even more destroyed families .
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Mauricio Garcia being a white supremacist is almost as funny as Jussie Smollet's two white supremacists from Nigeria. The American news media has ZERO respect for the American people. They mock us and are convinced we will believe anything.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Mauricio Garcia being a white supremacist is almost as funny as Jussie Smollet's two white supremacists from Nigeria. The American news media has ZERO respect for the American people. They mock us and are convinced we will believe anything.


They have gotten 33% of Americans to believe that you can change your biological sex (with enough expensive drugs and surgeries of course) and they have at least 50% of Americans convinced that if we don't stop the Russians in donbas they will be rolling their tanks in Paris.

I would say the media has a lot of experience in narrative manipulation and knows a good chunk of Americans can be convinced of anything.
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Waco1947 said:

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So we have NO IDEA of the motive of the Nashville school shooter after 7 weeks but we are certain after 24 hours that the Allen shooting is white supremacy??
Your point? You know about internal investigations How?


If you have remotely followed the Nashville story, you know that a manifesto was discovered in the killer's car along with several notebooks of writings where she lived. Soon after the crime, the chief of police alluded to the manifesto and writings and how it was their plan to release them as soon as possible to give more clarity to motive. The police themselves had no issues with releasing the materials. Soon after, the FBI jumped in and prevented a release of any materials. Nonetheless, the Nashville police announced a little over a week ago that they would finally be releasing the manifesto very shortly. A day later that comment was walked back and they said that a release would not be made because of a pending lawsuit.

We probably have more information regarding motive in this case than any mass shooting in history, but we are simply not allowed to see it.
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Chuckroast said:

Waco1947 said:

Jack Bauer said:

So we have NO IDEA of the motive of the Nashville school shooter after 7 weeks but we are certain after 24 hours that the Allen shooting is white supremacy??
Your point? You know about internal investigations How?


If you have remotely followed the Nashville story, you know that a manifesto was discovered in the killer's car along with several notebooks of writings where she lived. Soon after the crime, the chief of police alluded to the manifesto and writings and how it was their plan to release them as soon as possible to give more clarity to motive. The police themselves had no issues with releasing the materials. Soon after, the FBI jumped in and prevented a release of any materials. Nonetheless, the Nashville police announced a little over a week ago that they would finally be releasing the manifesto very shortly. A day later that comment was walked back and they said that a release would not be made because of a pending lawsuit.

We probably have more information regarding motive in this case than any mass shooting in history, but we are simply not allowed to see it.
Feds act like gestapo hell bent on censoring information inconvenient to politics that drive more power to the Feds.
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contrario
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Waco1947 said:

contrario said:

As soon as I saw the media wasn't immediately releasing the race of the person, I knew it wasn't a white male. And since it isn't a white male shooter, this story will die within a week.
The 33-year-old gunman who opened fire on an outlet mall in a Dallas suburb Saturday, killing at least eight people, had an apparent fascination with white supremacist or neo-Nazi beliefs that are now being examined by investigators as a possible motive for the attack, people familiar with the investigation said Sunday.

This is worded really weirdly. What does "fascination with white supremacists or neo-Nazi beliefs" mean? Like, would Jinx's, HuMcK's, cms, or 47's "fascination with white supremacists and neo-Nazi beliefs" fall in this category? They talk about white supremacists and neo-Nazi's quite a bit - would that be called a fascination with it? I wouldn't even be surprised if they post on white supremacists and neo-Nazi websites attacking their ideology, would that be classified as having a fascination with that ideology? Is it possible that the killer was fascinated with their ideology, but opposed to it? In other words, part of an extremist group on the left that is fascinated and opposed to white supremacy?
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Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller_bf said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

contrario said:

As soon as I saw the media wasn't immediately releasing the race of the person, I knew it wasn't a white male. And since it isn't a white male shooter, this story will die within a week.
The 33-year-old gunman who opened fire on an outlet mall in a Dallas suburb Saturday, killing at least eight people, had an apparent fascination with white supremacist or neo-Nazi beliefs that are now being examined by investigators as a possible motive for the attack, people familiar with the investigation said Sunday.

Kind of odd to say he's a white supremacist, weren't the victims white?


That's an American mall. It's extremely probable that multiple races will be victims.

Remember, the bullet doesn't care.
More like Maurico Martinez Garcia didn't care. A bullet is an inanimate object, it takes a murdering hateful human to kill someone.
With a gun
Or a fist, or a knife, or a car, or a pressure cooker filled with nails and explosives, or a water bottle filled with explosives, or a shoe filled with explosives. There are a lot of ways hateful people kill other people.
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contrario said:

Waco1947 said:

contrario said:

As soon as I saw the media wasn't immediately releasing the race of the person, I knew it wasn't a white male. And since it isn't a white male shooter, this story will die within a week.
The 33-year-old gunman who opened fire on an outlet mall in a Dallas suburb Saturday, killing at least eight people, had an apparent fascination with white supremacist or neo-Nazi beliefs that are now being examined by investigators as a possible motive for the attack, people familiar with the investigation said Sunday.

This is worded really weirdly. What does "fascination with white supremacists or neo-Nazi beliefs" mean? Like, would Jinx's, HuMcK's, cms, or 47's "fascination with white supremacists and neo-Nazi beliefs" fall in this category? They talk about white supremacists and neo-Nazi's quite a bit - would that be called a fascination with it? I wouldn't even be surprised if they post on white supremacists and neo-Nazi websites attacking their ideology, would that be classified as having a fascination with that ideology? Is it possible that the killer was fascinated with their ideology, but opposed to it? In other words, part of an extremist group on the left that is fascinated and opposed to white supremacy?
They don't want to expose themselves as authoritarians because they truly want to confiscate all guns by government force and they also can't put together a sound argument in favor of gun control so they resort to blaming it on white supremacy.
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According to this - mother, father and 3 year old child were killed at Allen Outlets.
6 year old was shot and is recovering as only surviving member.


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Looks like at least 3 of the 8 victims were children.

As of Monday morning, seven of the eight victims in the shooting have been identified:

-The Cho family, Kyu, Cindy and their 3-year-old son James;
-Sisters, fourth-grader Daniela Mendoza and second-grader Sofia Mendoza;
-Christian LaCour, 20;
-Aishwarya Thatikonda, 27.
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The 8th victim

RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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contrario said:

Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller_bf said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

contrario said:

As soon as I saw the media wasn't immediately releasing the race of the person, I knew it wasn't a white male. And since it isn't a white male shooter, this story will die within a week.
The 33-year-old gunman who opened fire on an outlet mall in a Dallas suburb Saturday, killing at least eight people, had an apparent fascination with white supremacist or neo-Nazi beliefs that are now being examined by investigators as a possible motive for the attack, people familiar with the investigation said Sunday.

Kind of odd to say he's a white supremacist, weren't the victims white?


That's an American mall. It's extremely probable that multiple races will be victims.

Remember, the bullet doesn't care.
More like Maurico Martinez Garcia didn't care. A bullet is an inanimate object, it takes a murdering hateful human to kill someone.
With a gun
Or a fist, or a knife, or a car, or a pressure cooker filled with nails and explosives, or a water bottle filled with explosives, or a shoe filled with explosives. There are a lot of ways hateful people kill other people.
Don't forget about a van filled with fertilizer and jet fuel. 168 people were murdered in Oklahoma City in 1995 without a single gun being fired.
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trey3216
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nein51 said:

No it most assuredly does not. I'll just assume you've never seen the aftermath of that (consider yourself lucky).

And I think we have found the first Mexican Nazi in the history of the world. Congratulations to CBS.
South America/Central America has a long history with fascists.
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
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Looks like he may have been some type of Mexican prison gang Nazi.
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contrario said:

Waco1947 said:

contrario said:

As soon as I saw the media wasn't immediately releasing the race of the person, I knew it wasn't a white male. And since it isn't a white male shooter, this story will die within a week.
The 33-year-old gunman who opened fire on an outlet mall in a Dallas suburb Saturday, killing at least eight people, had an apparent fascination with white supremacist or neo-Nazi beliefs that are now being examined by investigators as a possible motive for the attack, people familiar with the investigation said Sunday.

This is worded really weirdly. What does "fascination with white supremacists or neo-Nazi beliefs" mean? Like, would Jinx's, HuMcK's, cms, or 47's "fascination with white supremacists and neo-Nazi beliefs" fall in this category? They talk about white supremacists and neo-Nazi's quite a bit - would that be called a fascination with it? I wouldn't even be surprised if they post on white supremacists and neo-Nazi websites attacking their ideology, would that be classified as having a fascination with that ideology? Is it possible that the killer was fascinated with their ideology, but opposed to it? In other words, part of an extremist group on the left that is fascinated and opposed to white supremacy?

I think it should be obvious what it means in this case. "Here's what I think of your diversity you [...] losers".
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trey3216 said:

nein51 said:

No it most assuredly does not. I'll just assume you've never seen the aftermath of that (consider yourself lucky).

And I think we have found the first Mexican Nazi in the history of the world. Congratulations to CBS.
South America/Central America has a long history with fascists.


The world is such a strange place.

Mestizos and indigena in Central America larping as Nazis….and I thought I had heard to all.
Waco1947
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Chuckroast said:

Waco1947 said:

Jack Bauer said:

So we have NO IDEA of the motive of the Nashville school shooter after 7 weeks but we are certain after 24 hours that the Allen shooting is white supremacy??
Your point? You know about internal investigations How?


If you have remotely followed the Nashville story, you know that a manifesto was discovered in the killer's car along with several notebooks of writings where she lived. Soon after the crime, the chief of police alluded to the manifesto and writings and how it was their plan to release them as soon as possible to give more clarity to motive. The police themselves had no issues with releasing the materials. Soon after, the FBI jumped in and prevented a release of any materials. Nonetheless, the Nashville police announced a little over a week ago that they would finally be releasing the manifesto very shortly. A day later that comment was walked back and they said that a release would not be made because of a pending lawsuit.

We probably have more information regarding motive in this case than any mass shooting in history, but we are simply not allowed to see it.
Maybe he manifesto contains names of other white supremacists that the FBI wants to track down first
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Another incel who hated Jews, women, and racial minorities according to his social media posts.

An adult male who lived with his parents and apparently had no luck with women..there's a LOT of fools out there like this .
Y'all trying to make sense of why a Hispanic would identify with a neo Nazi white supremacist group are really burying the lead here
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HuMcK said:

contrario said:

Waco1947 said:

contrario said:

As soon as I saw the media wasn't immediately releasing the race of the person, I knew it wasn't a white male. And since it isn't a white male shooter, this story will die within a week.
The 33-year-old gunman who opened fire on an outlet mall in a Dallas suburb Saturday, killing at least eight people, had an apparent fascination with white supremacist or neo-Nazi beliefs that are now being examined by investigators as a possible motive for the attack, people familiar with the investigation said Sunday.

This is worded really weirdly. What does "fascination with white supremacists or neo-Nazi beliefs" mean? Like, would Jinx's, HuMcK's, cms, or 47's "fascination with white supremacists and neo-Nazi beliefs" fall in this category? They talk about white supremacists and neo-Nazi's quite a bit - would that be called a fascination with it? I wouldn't even be surprised if they post on white supremacists and neo-Nazi websites attacking their ideology, would that be classified as having a fascination with that ideology? Is it possible that the killer was fascinated with their ideology, but opposed to it? In other words, part of an extremist group on the left that is fascinated and opposed to white supremacy?

I think it should be obvious what it means in this case. "Here's what I think of your diversity you [...] losers".

Great work by Mr. Toler in finding those Mauricio Garcia swastika tattoo pics! He will really impress me if he can find and post a pic of Nashville shooter Audry Hale's manifesto!!!!
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Redbrickbear said:




And of course Obama did with him what the weak always do
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Stefano DiMera said:

Another incel who hated Jews, women, and racial minorities according to his social media posts.

An adult male who lived with his parents and apparently had no luck with women..there's a LOT of fools out there like this .
Y'all trying to make sense of why a Hispanic would identify with a neo Nazi white supremacist group are really burying the lead here


Jews an odd thing to get worked up In a leftist hate rage about in Texas as odds are he's hardly met one
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Why would they immediately release the race of the shooter? He was dead with a bullet in the center of his head .

The only time they release race or a pic immediately is when he's still on the loose .like the Atlanta hospital shooting last week.

Nice try.
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What difference does the shooter's race or beliefs make? We have had mass shooters of all types.

For mass shootings, there are two problems. First, there are plenty of sick humans out there.
Second, they have easy access to highly lethal weapons.
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Frank Galvin said:

What difference does the shooter's race or beliefs make?


Future threat assessment.
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He Hate Me said:

Frank Galvin said:

What difference does the shooter's race or beliefs make?


Future threat assessment.


I hope that is a poor joke.
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Frank Galvin said:

He Hate Me said:

Frank Galvin said:

What difference does the shooter's race or beliefs make?


Future threat assessment.


I hope that is a poor joke.
You don't believe that a person's belief system can influence whether they are militant?
Frank Galvin
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He Hate Me said:

Frank Galvin said:

He Hate Me said:

Frank Galvin said:

What difference does the shooter's race or beliefs make?


Future threat assessment.


I hope that is a poor joke.
You don't believe that a person's belief system can drive whether they are militant?


I was referring to the race element, as that seems to be the thing that one could "assess" at an outdoor shopping center.
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Frank Galvin said:

He Hate Me said:

Frank Galvin said:

He Hate Me said:

Frank Galvin said:

What difference does the shooter's race or beliefs make?


Future threat assessment.


I hope that is a poor joke.
You don't believe that a person's belief system can drive whether they are militant?


I was referring to the race element, as that seems to be the thing that one could "assess" at an outdoor shopping center.
Assessment many times starts before an attack is in progress.
 
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