Anyone have any thoughts they would like to express?
Israel-Palestine stuff
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Yes…I don't like it.
Sam Lowry said:
Yes…I don't like it.
lol
At some point they will learn to live together or they won't.
You just summed up 70 years of American media and academic discourse on the issue.Mitch Blood Green said:
At some point they will learn to live together or they won't.
If the Palestinians ceased fighting today, there would be peace. If the Israelis ceased fighting today, there would be no more Israel or Jews in that land.
1. Would there be? The Israelis would stop building settlements on Palestinian land in the West Bank if they stopped resisting?Golem said:
If the Palestinians ceased fighting today, there would be peace. If the Israelis ceased fighting today, there would be no more Israel or Jews in that land.
2. What do you mean by no more Israel? They have nuclear weapons...who exactly is trying to destroy the State of Israel? And how would they accomplish that?
Who is easy, as Iran isn't the only one using the Palestinian proxy. The how is only difficult thanks to Israel's strength.Redbrickbear said:1. Would there be? The Israelis would stop building settlements on Palestinian land in the West Bank if they stopped resisting?Golem said:
If the Palestinians ceased fighting today, there would be peace. If the Israelis ceased fighting today, there would be no more Israel or Jews in that land.
2. What do you mean by no more Israel? They have nuclear weapons...who exactly is trying to destroy the State of Israel? And how would they accomplish that?
Some argue that the Zionist regime is a reality that the region must come to terms with. Today the #Covid_19 is a reality; should it be accepted or fought?!
— Khamenei.ir (@khamenei_ir) May 22, 2020
The long-lasting virus of Zionism will be uprooted thanks to the determination and faith of the youth. #Covid1948
ATL Bear said:Who is easy, as Iran isn't the only one using the Palestinian proxy. The how is only difficult thanks to Israel's strength.Redbrickbear said:1. Would there be? The Israelis would stop building settlements on Palestinian land in the West Bank if they stopped resisting?Golem said:
If the Palestinians ceased fighting today, there would be peace. If the Israelis ceased fighting today, there would be no more Israel or Jews in that land.
2. What do you mean by no more Israel? They have nuclear weapons...who exactly is trying to destroy the State of Israel? And how would they accomplish that?Some argue that the Zionist regime is a reality that the region must come to terms with. Today the #Covid_19 is a reality; should it be accepted or fought?!
— Khamenei.ir (@khamenei_ir) May 22, 2020
The long-lasting virus of Zionism will be uprooted thanks to the determination and faith of the youth. #Covid1948
The Palestinian authority is not Hezbollah (in Lebanon)...do you have any proof that the Palestinian people are just a proxy for Iran?
Most Palestinians are Sunni Muslim or Christian and not Shi'ite Muslim
Iran's proxy forces in the Middle East are usually numbered as militias in Iraq (and government parties in Iraq), Syria, militia forces in Lebanon like Hezbollah, and the Houthi forces in Yemen.
Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.Redbrickbear said:ATL Bear said:Who is easy, as Iran isn't the only one using the Palestinian proxy. The how is only difficult thanks to Israel's strength.Redbrickbear said:1. Would there be? The Israelis would stop building settlements on Palestinian land in the West Bank if they stopped resisting?Golem said:
If the Palestinians ceased fighting today, there would be peace. If the Israelis ceased fighting today, there would be no more Israel or Jews in that land.
2. What do you mean by no more Israel? They have nuclear weapons...who exactly is trying to destroy the State of Israel? And how would they accomplish that?Some argue that the Zionist regime is a reality that the region must come to terms with. Today the #Covid_19 is a reality; should it be accepted or fought?!
— Khamenei.ir (@khamenei_ir) May 22, 2020
The long-lasting virus of Zionism will be uprooted thanks to the determination and faith of the youth. #Covid1948
The Palestinian authority is not Hezbollah (in Lebanon)...do you have any proof that the Palestinian people are just a proxy for Iran?
Most Palestinians are Sunni Muslim or Christian and not Shi'ite Muslim
Iran's proxy forces in the Middle East are usually numbered as militias in Iraq (and government parties in Iraq), Syria, militia forces in Lebanon like Hezbollah, and the Houthi forces in Yemen.
EDIT: And one thing that unites Sunni and Shia is their coordinated hatred and effort to remove Israel.
Those interested in the conflict will probably like Fauda. It is a very well done TV series. Very violent though.
Redbrickbear said:
Anyone have any thoughts they would like to express?
Yes, you would like to explain what would happen if Israel unilaterally withdrew from the West Bank.
D. C. Bear said:Redbrickbear said:
Anyone have any thoughts they would like to express?
Yes, you would like to explain what would happen if Israel unilaterally withdrew from the West Bank.
Radical Israeli settler fanatics would no longer be killing Arab kids and setting Arab homes on fire?
Redbrickbear said:D. C. Bear said:Redbrickbear said:
Anyone have any thoughts they would like to express?
Yes, you would like to explain what would happen if Israel unilaterally withdrew from the West Bank.
Radical Israeli settler fanatics would no longer be killing Arab kids and setting Arab homes on fire?
What else would you expect to happen?
D. C. Bear said:Redbrickbear said:D. C. Bear said:Redbrickbear said:
Anyone have any thoughts they would like to express?
Yes, you would like to explain what would happen if Israel unilaterally withdrew from the West Bank.
Radical Israeli settler fanatics would no longer be killing Arab kids and setting Arab homes on fire?
What else would you expect to happen?
Palestine would become a sovereign state and Israel would finally be in compliance with over 100 UN resolutions, condemnations, and policy statements on the illegality of Israel's West Bank occupation.
Redbrickbear said:D. C. Bear said:Redbrickbear said:D. C. Bear said:Redbrickbear said:
Anyone have any thoughts they would like to express?
Yes, you would like to explain what would happen if Israel unilaterally withdrew from the West Bank.
Radical Israeli settler fanatics would no longer be killing Arab kids and setting Arab homes on fire?
What else would you expect to happen?
Palestine would become a sovereign state and Israel would finally be in compliance with over 100 UN resolutions, condemnations, and policy statements on the illegality of Israel's West Bank occupation.
And then what?
This thread is like a plea to BUmaruski to join and post here.
Golem said:
If the Palestinians ceased fighting today, there would be peace. If the Israelis ceased fighting today, there would be no more Israel or Jews in that land.
Concise , clear, rational comment .
You should post more often .
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why do we protect Israel, but some of you folks brisk at aiding Ukraine ? Have never understood why we need to be their daddy. Let them protect themselves, just like some suggest we do with Ukraine.
Agree with this.J.R. said:
why do we protect Israel, but some of you folks brisk at aiding Ukraine ? Have never understood why we need to be their daddy. Let them protect themselves, just like some suggest we do with Ukraine.
A biiger question is why does the US still give Egypt billions of dollars in aid every year ?
If there were peace in the Middle East, the money spigot would close. Nobody in control of that money wants to see that happen.
Perpetual hate and violence = perpetual cash flow.
Perpetual hate and violence = perpetual cash flow.
LIB,MR BEARS said:
If there were peace in the Middle East, the money spigot would close. Nobody in control of that money wants to see that happen.
Perpetual hate and violence = perpetual cash flow.
Bingo
War pays well
Peace pays nothing
KaiBear said:Agree with this.J.R. said:
why do we protect Israel, but some of you folks brisk at aiding Ukraine ? Have never understood why we need to be their daddy. Let them protect themselves, just like some suggest we do with Ukraine.
A biiger question is why does the US still give Egypt billions of dollars in aid every year ?
So that they and Israel will remain at peace. It is a small price to pay for protecting the region.
D. C. Bear said:KaiBear said:Agree with this.J.R. said:
why do we protect Israel, but some of you folks brisk at aiding Ukraine ? Have never understood why we need to be their daddy. Let them protect themselves, just like some suggest we do with Ukraine.
A biiger question is why does the US still give Egypt billions of dollars in aid every year ?
So that they and Israel will remain at peace. It is a small price to pay for protecting the region.
So it's like paying protection money to the mafia…we dont want to not pay and see any broken windows come from it.
Of course the problem with protection money rackets it's the other side will keep milking you forever.
Why in the world is it the responsibility of US taxpayers to pay billions of dollars to a country who's population hates our guts?D. C. Bear said:KaiBear said:Agree with this.J.R. said:
why do we protect Israel, but some of you folks brisk at aiding Ukraine ? Have never understood why we need to be their daddy. Let them protect themselves, just like some suggest we do with Ukraine.
A biiger question is why does the US still give Egypt billions of dollars in aid every year ?
So that they and Israel will remain at peace. It is a small price to pay for protecting the region.
This has gone on for decades.
Because the US doesn't give Billions to Egypt every year? It doesn't even give a Billion.KaiBear said:Agree with this.J.R. said:
why do we protect Israel, but some of you folks brisk at aiding Ukraine ? Have never understood why we need to be their daddy. Let them protect themselves, just like some suggest we do with Ukraine.
A biiger question is why does the US still give Egypt billions of dollars in aid every year ?
ATL Bear said:Because the US doesn't give Billions to Egypt every year? It doesn't even give a Billion.KaiBear said:Agree with this.J.R. said:
why do we protect Israel, but some of you folks brisk at aiding Ukraine ? Have never understood why we need to be their daddy. Let them protect themselves, just like some suggest we do with Ukraine.
A biiger question is why does the US still give Egypt billions of dollars in aid every year ?
My mistake.
Thought we gave Egypt 2-3 billion per years since the Camp David Accords went into effect .
What is the correct figure ?
It's big dollars even if not as big as thought. Mostly economic aid in the hundreds of millions.KaiBear said:ATL Bear said:Because the US doesn't give Billions to Egypt every year? It doesn't even give a Billion.KaiBear said:Agree with this.J.R. said:
why do we protect Israel, but some of you folks brisk at aiding Ukraine ? Have never understood why we need to be their daddy. Let them protect themselves, just like some suggest we do with Ukraine.
A biiger question is why does the US still give Egypt billions of dollars in aid every year ?
My mistake.
Thought we gave Egypt 2-3 billion per years since the Camp David Accords went into effect .
What is the correct figure ?
According to the Almighty Internet Eqypt receives 1.46 BILLION dollars in US foreign aid .
The 4th largest amount of any country .
Jordan gets 1.7 BILLION dollars and Israel receives over 3.3 BILLION dollars.
Been going on for many years.
Needs to end immediately .
Meanwhile we have homeless veterns by the thousands , inadequate care of our mentally ill and our cities are decaying .
The 4th largest amount of any country .
Jordan gets 1.7 BILLION dollars and Israel receives over 3.3 BILLION dollars.
Been going on for many years.
Needs to end immediately .
Meanwhile we have homeless veterns by the thousands , inadequate care of our mentally ill and our cities are decaying .
I think you're using the Foreign Direct Investment number, which is made up mostly of private investment, not government related aid. Think oil and gas exploration, telecom, financial services, etc,KaiBear said:
According to the Almighty Internet Eqypt receives 1.46 BILLION dollars in US foreign aid .
The 4th largest amount of any country .
Jordan gets 1.7 BILLION dollars and Israel receives over 3.3 BILLION dollars.
Been going on for many years.
Needs to end immediately .
Meanwhile we have homeless veterns by the thousands , inadequate care of our mentally ill and our cities are decaying .
No nation wants Palestine. Therein lies the problem.
The real solution, which Israel would accept, is Jordan to annex the West Bank and Egypt to annex Gaza. But to your point, neither wants them.GrowlTowel said:
No nation wants Palestine. Therein lies the problem.