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ron.reagan said:

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KaiBear said:

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ron.reagan said:

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I upgraded Windows 95 to Windows XP in really hot weather

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Figured as much .

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If it makes you feel better my brother was blown to pieces about 100 miles away from me.

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Doubt it .

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Figured as much.

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You figured right.

Don't put any value into your comments.

As you come across as a immature lightweight.

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He (or it) is a CONFIRMED immature lightweight.

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Yes, I do exercise. Diabetes is going to get you before a guy with a knife.

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No guy with a knife is going to take out ShooterTX. I can promise you that. His screen name is for real.

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Kinda funny but also true.
I'm a life long hunter, and got into competitive shooting (handguns & shotguns mostly) in college.
I'm pretty good at distance with a rifle, but my best shooting is multiple targets at varying ranges with handguns.
Love my customized CZ, or a nice Sig... but I'm deadly out to 100 yards with my 1911.
I've been carrying for almost 30 years. I don't carry because I'm concerned about being attacked. I'm not a typical target for a criminal. I carry because if I was in a situation like this one, I don't want to go defend someone else with nothing but my hands... especially if there are more than one or two bad guys.

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Amen Brother. My Dad owned a bunch of firearms. The only guns I have ever purchased was an AR-15 and a Mossberg short pump shotgun that I purchased with,............wait for it...........wait for it............the first round of government distributed Covid stimulus money! LOL!!!! Oh, the irony.

My weapon of choice that is usually not far from me is a government issued M1911 .45 that I inherited from my Uncle who fought in WWII. It is 80 years old but an awesome weapon. Have never had to use it and God willing, I never will.

****For the record, all of my firearms were recently lost in a burglary. Going forward, I will do my best to defend myself with a baseball bat and some bear spray. ******

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Confusing post.

On one hand you discuss your favorite firearms including one that is usually ' not far from me'.

Then you state all your firearms were stolen in a burglary.

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he owns a Louisville Slugger that identifies as a firearm. Are you so bigoted as to say the Slugger is wrong?

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cms186 said:

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So much "cultural diversity".... so much benefit... we should welcome everyone with open arms and NO background checks required.

What could possibly go wrong?

https://rmx.news/crime/video-of-syrian-migrant-stabbing-children-on-french-playground-deleted-across-twitter-users-decry-censorship/


PS - please tell me again how no one needs a gun to defend themselves.

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or, you know, if this PoS had been able to get his hands on a gun, he might have actually killed some of those kids instead of just leaving them in Hospital

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Any been murdered by a knife in Britain? Seem to recall a cop who was murdered by man with a knife. The cop had no gun. Knives kill, knucklehead

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Tell me, in a Fight, between one man with a Knife and one man with a Gun, which would you rather be?

Yes, Knives can kill, as can Cars and Rope and Electricity and countless other things, Guns are the only things that are specifically designed to Kill People/Animals though and therefore they are far more efficient at doing so. If this PoS had been in possession of a Gun, then its highly likely there would be several dead Kids from this incident and probably some Dead Adults too, fortunately he wasnt able to get one and therefore that didnt happen.

That Cop was killed 7 years ago, whearas the briefest of googling uncovers an American Cop was stabbed to Death just 2 years ago, despite having a Gun.

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I would rather have a gun if being attacked by a man with a gun or knife. Thankfully, knucklehead, I live in a country where I can defend myself with a firearm.

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and thankfully, Knucklehead, I live in a country where Gun crime is not a concern for me and i dont need to own a dangerous weapon.

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You also live in a country where government has too much power and there's nothing you can do about it if you feel they go too far.

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what can you do? ok, so plenty of your citizenry have guns, but lets be real here, the Government has Armed Forces with advanced Weapons, Armour, Tanks, Artillery, Drones, Aircraft, Training on how to actually fight as cohesive units and all kinds of advanced logistics, if it ever came to that (It wont), your armed ragtag militia (Several of whom wouldnt be in great shape, compared to Soldiers who have to be fit as part of their jobs) would be branded as Domestic Terrorists and erased from the map in a matter of days.

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Forget about Vietnam and Afghanistan for a second, because those are easy examples of why you're wrong. Let's just focus on the fact that, according to American democrats, the US almost had its government toppled by unarmed elderly people taking pictures in the capitol on January 6th, 2021. Seems the US government disagrees with your threat assessment of US citizens.

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and thankfully, Knucklehead, I live in a country where Gun crime is not a concern for me and i dont need to own a dangerous weapon.

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maybe you should go watch the video in the original post on this thread... and then reconsider your statement about "gun crime".

I will warn you, it is hard to watch a video of a man casually walking around with a knife.... stabbing little babies in their strollers, while their mothers scream in horror. He was able to simply walk around with a knife because he knew that no one... NO ONE... was armed with any kind of weapons. He knew that his life was in no danger, and he could slaughter the children of his enemies at will.

But hey... no gun crimes were committed that day, right? So that's another win for "gun control".

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You know what else didnt happen that day? Noone died, noone was slaughtered. Yeah, its hard to watch and its terrible that it happened, but 4 kids getting hurt but not killed in a school playground is a far better outcome than any of the countless School Shootings that happen in America, when Kids do get slaughtered on the Altar of the 2nd Amendment.

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and thankfully, Knucklehead, I live in a country where Gun crime is not a concern for me and i dont need to own a dangerous weapon.

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maybe you should go watch the video in the original post on this thread... and then reconsider your statement about "gun crime".

I will warn you, it is hard to watch a video of a man casually walking around with a knife.... stabbing little babies in their strollers, while their mothers scream in horror. He was able to simply walk around with a knife because he knew that no one... NO ONE... was armed with any kind of weapons. He knew that his life was in no danger, and he could slaughter the children of his enemies at will.

But hey... no gun crimes were committed that day, right? So that's another win for "gun control".

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You know what else didnt happen that day? Noone died, noone was slaughtered. Yeah, its hard to watch and its terrible that it happened, but 4 kids getting hurt but not killed in a school playground is a far better outcome than any of the countless School Shootings that happen in America, when Kids do get slaughtered on the Altar of the 2nd Amendment.

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No one was slaughtered in the US that day, either. You can pretend you haven't been shown the evidence of self defense usage of guns all you like but willful ignorance isn't a credible argument.

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and thankfully, Knucklehead, I live in a country where Gun crime is not a concern for me and i dont need to own a dangerous weapon.

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maybe you should go watch the video in the original post on this thread... and then reconsider your statement about "gun crime".

I will warn you, it is hard to watch a video of a man casually walking around with a knife.... stabbing little babies in their strollers, while their mothers scream in horror. He was able to simply walk around with a knife because he knew that no one... NO ONE... was armed with any kind of weapons. He knew that his life was in no danger, and he could slaughter the children of his enemies at will.

But hey... no gun crimes were committed that day, right? So that's another win for "gun control".

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You know what else didnt happen that day? Noone died, noone was slaughtered. Yeah, its hard to watch and its terrible that it happened, but 4 kids getting hurt but not killed in a school playground is a far better outcome than any of the countless School Shootings that happen in America, when Kids do get slaughtered on the Altar of the 2nd Amendment.

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No one was slaughtered in the US that day, either. You can pretend you haven't been shown the evidence of self defense usage of guns all you like but willful ignorance isn't a credible argument.

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it must be a powerful argument. He resorts to it often

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cms186 said:

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cms186 said:

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and thankfully, Knucklehead, I live in a country where Gun crime is not a concern for me and i dont need to own a dangerous weapon.

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maybe you should go watch the video in the original post on this thread... and then reconsider your statement about "gun crime".

I will warn you, it is hard to watch a video of a man casually walking around with a knife.... stabbing little babies in their strollers, while their mothers scream in horror. He was able to simply walk around with a knife because he knew that no one... NO ONE... was armed with any kind of weapons. He knew that his life was in no danger, and he could slaughter the children of his enemies at will.

But hey... no gun crimes were committed that day, right? So that's another win for "gun control".

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You know what else didnt happen that day? Noone died, noone was slaughtered. Yeah, its hard to watch and its terrible that it happened, but 4 kids getting hurt but not killed in a school playground is a far better outcome than any of the countless School Shootings that happen in America, when Kids do get slaughtered on the Altar of the 2nd Amendment.

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No one was slaughtered in the US that day, either. You can pretend you haven't been shown the evidence of self defense usage of guns all you like but willful ignorance isn't a credible argument.

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Oh no, I'm well aware Guns have a use as Self Defence, but I'm pointing out, in the face of your seemingly wilful ignorance, when you don't have a prevalence of them in society, there is much less need for them. Yes, tragic events will still happen like this particular instance, but it is impossible to deny that this would have turned out a lot worse if the perpetrator had a Gun, instead of a Knife.

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Wangchung said:

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and thankfully, Knucklehead, I live in a country where Gun crime is not a concern for me and i dont need to own a dangerous weapon.

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maybe you should go watch the video in the original post on this thread... and then reconsider your statement about "gun crime".

I will warn you, it is hard to watch a video of a man casually walking around with a knife.... stabbing little babies in their strollers, while their mothers scream in horror. He was able to simply walk around with a knife because he knew that no one... NO ONE... was armed with any kind of weapons. He knew that his life was in no danger, and he could slaughter the children of his enemies at will.

But hey... no gun crimes were committed that day, right? So that's another win for "gun control".

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You know what else didnt happen that day? Noone died, noone was slaughtered. Yeah, its hard to watch and its terrible that it happened, but 4 kids getting hurt but not killed in a school playground is a far better outcome than any of the countless School Shootings that happen in America, when Kids do get slaughtered on the Altar of the 2nd Amendment.

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No one was slaughtered in the US that day, either. You can pretend you haven't been shown the evidence of self defense usage of guns all you like but willful ignorance isn't a credible argument.

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Oh no, I'm well aware Guns have a use as Self Defence, but I'm pointing out, in the face of your seemingly wilful ignorance, when you don't have a prevalence of them in society, there is much less need for them. Yes, tragic events will still happen like this particular instance, but it is impossible to deny that this would have turned out a lot worse if the perpetrator had a Gun, instead of a Knife.

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Well gosh, if we didn't have any criminals we wouldn't need to ban ANY weapons! If we didn't have anyone attempting to commit crimes we wouldn't need any laws, either! Gee, your use of impossible fantasy as your basis for wanting to outlaw guns seems like a brilliant rationale, but unfortunately here in the US we have physical borders with the 3rd world and we have a protected class of criminal that gets released back into the streets as fast as they are picked up. The guns are already here, so anyone arguing that law abiding citizens should disarm in effort to stop crime is an absolute moron.

If a bystander had possessed a gun no one would have been stabbed at all. But you're cool with death as long as it doesn't come from a bullet wound.

Wangchung said:

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cms186 said:

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Wangchung said:

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cms186 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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cms186 said:

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and thankfully, Knucklehead, I live in a country where Gun crime is not a concern for me and i dont need to own a dangerous weapon.

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maybe you should go watch the video in the original post on this thread... and then reconsider your statement about "gun crime".

I will warn you, it is hard to watch a video of a man casually walking around with a knife.... stabbing little babies in their strollers, while their mothers scream in horror. He was able to simply walk around with a knife because he knew that no one... NO ONE... was armed with any kind of weapons. He knew that his life was in no danger, and he could slaughter the children of his enemies at will.

But hey... no gun crimes were committed that day, right? So that's another win for "gun control".

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You know what else didnt happen that day? Noone died, noone was slaughtered. Yeah, its hard to watch and its terrible that it happened, but 4 kids getting hurt but not killed in a school playground is a far better outcome than any of the countless School Shootings that happen in America, when Kids do get slaughtered on the Altar of the 2nd Amendment.

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No one was slaughtered in the US that day, either. You can pretend you haven't been shown the evidence of self defense usage of guns all you like but willful ignorance isn't a credible argument.

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Oh no, I'm well aware Guns have a use as Self Defence, but I'm pointing out, in the face of your seemingly wilful ignorance, when you don't have a prevalence of them in society, there is much less need for them. Yes, tragic events will still happen like this particular instance, but it is impossible to deny that this would have turned out a lot worse if the perpetrator had a Gun, instead of a Knife.

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Well gosh, if we didn't have any criminals we wouldn't need to ban ANY weapons! If we didn't have anyone attempting to commit crimes we wouldn't need any laws, either! Gee, your use of impossible fantasy as your basis for wanting to outlaw guns seems like a brilliant rationale, but unfortunately here in the US we have physical borders with the 3rd world and we have a protected class of criminal that gets released back into the streets as fast as they are picked up. The guns are already here, so anyone arguing that law abiding citizens should disarm in effort to stop crime is an absolute moron.

If a bystander had possessed a gun no one would have been stabbed at all. But you're cool with death as long as it doesn't come from a bullet wound.

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again, putting words into my mouth that i didnt say, but then again, thats what people like you specialise in when you cant win an actual argument or even have a rational conversation.

A: I have never said to disarm Americans or outlaw all guns, even in the UK, it is possible to own Guns, just, you know, there are sensible restrictions on what you can own.

B: Where have i said that I'm "cool with death as long as it doesn't come from a bullet wound"? Thats just drivel straight from an NRA conditioning manual, congrats on being a good 2nd Amendment drone.

C: Yeah, maybe if a bystander had had a gun, less (or possibly, but unlikely, 0) Kids would have been hurt, but again, if the Perp had had a gun, more Kids would have been hurt and probably some killed too

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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cms186 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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cms186 said:

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So much "cultural diversity".... so much benefit... we should welcome everyone with open arms and NO background checks required.

What could possibly go wrong?

https://rmx.news/crime/video-of-syrian-migrant-stabbing-children-on-french-playground-deleted-across-twitter-users-decry-censorship/


PS - please tell me again how no one needs a gun to defend themselves.

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or, you know, if this PoS had been able to get his hands on a gun, he might have actually killed some of those kids instead of just leaving them in Hospital

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Any been murdered by a knife in Britain? Seem to recall a cop who was murdered by man with a knife. The cop had no gun. Knives kill, knucklehead

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Tell me, in a Fight, between one man with a Knife and one man with a Gun, which would you rather be?

Yes, Knives can kill, as can Cars and Rope and Electricity and countless other things, Guns are the only things that are specifically designed to Kill People/Animals though and therefore they are far more efficient at doing so. If this PoS had been in possession of a Gun, then its highly likely there would be several dead Kids from this incident and probably some Dead Adults too, fortunately he wasnt able to get one and therefore that didnt happen.

That Cop was killed 7 years ago, whearas the briefest of googling uncovers an American Cop was stabbed to Death just 2 years ago, despite having a Gun.

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I would rather have a gun if being attacked by a man with a gun or knife. Thankfully, knucklehead, I live in a country where I can defend myself with a firearm.

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and thankfully, Knucklehead, I live in a country where Gun crime is not a concern for me and i dont need to own a dangerous weapon.

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You mean you don't think you need to own a dangerous weapon yet. Your immigration policies will be the attitude adjustment you need.

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Wangchung said:

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Wangchung said:

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and thankfully, Knucklehead, I live in a country where Gun crime is not a concern for me and i dont need to own a dangerous weapon.

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maybe you should go watch the video in the original post on this thread... and then reconsider your statement about "gun crime".

I will warn you, it is hard to watch a video of a man casually walking around with a knife.... stabbing little babies in their strollers, while their mothers scream in horror. He was able to simply walk around with a knife because he knew that no one... NO ONE... was armed with any kind of weapons. He knew that his life was in no danger, and he could slaughter the children of his enemies at will.

But hey... no gun crimes were committed that day, right? So that's another win for "gun control".

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You know what else didnt happen that day? Noone died, noone was slaughtered. Yeah, its hard to watch and its terrible that it happened, but 4 kids getting hurt but not killed in a school playground is a far better outcome than any of the countless School Shootings that happen in America, when Kids do get slaughtered on the Altar of the 2nd Amendment.

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No one was slaughtered in the US that day, either. You can pretend you haven't been shown the evidence of self defense usage of guns all you like but willful ignorance isn't a credible argument.

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Oh no, I'm well aware Guns have a use as Self Defence, but I'm pointing out, in the face of your seemingly wilful ignorance, when you don't have a prevalence of them in society, there is much less need for them. Yes, tragic events will still happen like this particular instance, but it is impossible to deny that this would have turned out a lot worse if the perpetrator had a Gun, instead of a Knife.

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Well gosh, if we didn't have any criminals we wouldn't need to ban ANY weapons! If we didn't have anyone attempting to commit crimes we wouldn't need any laws, either! Gee, your use of impossible fantasy as your basis for wanting to outlaw guns seems like a brilliant rationale, but unfortunately here in the US we have physical borders with the 3rd world and we have a protected class of criminal that gets released back into the streets as fast as they are picked up. The guns are already here, so anyone arguing that law abiding citizens should disarm in effort to stop crime is an absolute moron.

If a bystander had possessed a gun no one would have been stabbed at all. But you're cool with death as long as it doesn't come from a bullet wound.

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again, putting words into my mouth that i didnt say, but then again, thats what people like you specialise in when you cant win an actual argument or even have a rational conversation.

A: I have never said to disarm Americans or outlaw all guns, even in the UK, it is possible to own Guns, just, you know, there are sensible restrictions on what you can own.

B: Where have i said that I'm "cool with death as long as it doesn't come from a bullet wound"? Thats just drivel straight from an NRA conditioning manual, congrats on being a good 2nd Amendment drone.

C: Yeah, maybe if a bystander had had a gun, less (or possibly, but unlikely, 0) Kids would have been hurt, but again, if the Perp had had a gun, more Kids would have been hurt and probably some killed too

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Thankfully, the perp heeded the gun control laws as he disregarded the law against committing murder. What happens when the next perp decides to disregard the gun control laws? You going hope a neutered Bobby comes along to talk him out of firing the next round?

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cms186 said:

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Wangchung said:

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cms186 said:

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Wangchung said:

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cms186 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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cms186 said:

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and thankfully, Knucklehead, I live in a country where Gun crime is not a concern for me and i dont need to own a dangerous weapon.

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maybe you should go watch the video in the original post on this thread... and then reconsider your statement about "gun crime".

I will warn you, it is hard to watch a video of a man casually walking around with a knife.... stabbing little babies in their strollers, while their mothers scream in horror. He was able to simply walk around with a knife because he knew that no one... NO ONE... was armed with any kind of weapons. He knew that his life was in no danger, and he could slaughter the children of his enemies at will.

But hey... no gun crimes were committed that day, right? So that's another win for "gun control".

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You know what else didnt happen that day? Noone died, noone was slaughtered. Yeah, its hard to watch and its terrible that it happened, but 4 kids getting hurt but not killed in a school playground is a far better outcome than any of the countless School Shootings that happen in America, when Kids do get slaughtered on the Altar of the 2nd Amendment.

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No one was slaughtered in the US that day, either. You can pretend you haven't been shown the evidence of self defense usage of guns all you like but willful ignorance isn't a credible argument.

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Oh no, I'm well aware Guns have a use as Self Defence, but I'm pointing out, in the face of your seemingly wilful ignorance, when you don't have a prevalence of them in society, there is much less need for them. Yes, tragic events will still happen like this particular instance, but it is impossible to deny that this would have turned out a lot worse if the perpetrator had a Gun, instead of a Knife.

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Well gosh, if we didn't have any criminals we wouldn't need to ban ANY weapons! If we didn't have anyone attempting to commit crimes we wouldn't need any laws, either! Gee, your use of impossible fantasy as your basis for wanting to outlaw guns seems like a brilliant rationale, but unfortunately here in the US we have physical borders with the 3rd world and we have a protected class of criminal that gets released back into the streets as fast as they are picked up. The guns are already here, so anyone arguing that law abiding citizens should disarm in effort to stop crime is an absolute moron.

If a bystander had possessed a gun no one would have been stabbed at all. But you're cool with death as long as it doesn't come from a bullet wound.

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again, putting words into my mouth that i didnt say, but then again, thats what people like you specialise in when you cant win an actual argument or even have a rational conversation.

A: I have never said to disarm Americans or outlaw all guns, even in the UK, it is possible to own Guns, just, you know, there are sensible restrictions on what you can own.

B: Where have i said that I'm "cool with death as long as it doesn't come from a bullet wound"? Thats just drivel straight from an NRA conditioning manual, congrats on being a good 2nd Amendment drone.

C: Yeah, maybe if a bystander had had a gun, less (or possibly, but unlikely, 0) Kids would have been hurt, but again, if the Perp had had a gun, more Kids would have been hurt and probably some killed too

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Thankfully, the perp heeded the gun control laws as he disregarded the law against committing murder. What happens when the next perp decides to disregard the gun control laws? You going hope a neutered Bobby comes along to talk him out of firing the next round?

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Should that happened, we have Armed Policemen to deal with them, fortunately, it doesnt happen that often

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Wangchung said:

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cms186 said:

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Wangchung said:

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cms186 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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cms186 said:

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and thankfully, Knucklehead, I live in a country where Gun crime is not a concern for me and i dont need to own a dangerous weapon.

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maybe you should go watch the video in the original post on this thread... and then reconsider your statement about "gun crime".

I will warn you, it is hard to watch a video of a man casually walking around with a knife.... stabbing little babies in their strollers, while their mothers scream in horror. He was able to simply walk around with a knife because he knew that no one... NO ONE... was armed with any kind of weapons. He knew that his life was in no danger, and he could slaughter the children of his enemies at will.

But hey... no gun crimes were committed that day, right? So that's another win for "gun control".

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You know what else didnt happen that day? Noone died, noone was slaughtered. Yeah, its hard to watch and its terrible that it happened, but 4 kids getting hurt but not killed in a school playground is a far better outcome than any of the countless School Shootings that happen in America, when Kids do get slaughtered on the Altar of the 2nd Amendment.

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No one was slaughtered in the US that day, either. You can pretend you haven't been shown the evidence of self defense usage of guns all you like but willful ignorance isn't a credible argument.

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Oh no, I'm well aware Guns have a use as Self Defence, but I'm pointing out, in the face of your seemingly wilful ignorance, when you don't have a prevalence of them in society, there is much less need for them. Yes, tragic events will still happen like this particular instance, but it is impossible to deny that this would have turned out a lot worse if the perpetrator had a Gun, instead of a Knife.

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Well gosh, if we didn't have any criminals we wouldn't need to ban ANY weapons! If we didn't have anyone attempting to commit crimes we wouldn't need any laws, either! Gee, your use of impossible fantasy as your basis for wanting to outlaw guns seems like a brilliant rationale, but unfortunately here in the US we have physical borders with the 3rd world and we have a protected class of criminal that gets released back into the streets as fast as they are picked up. The guns are already here, so anyone arguing that law abiding citizens should disarm in effort to stop crime is an absolute moron.

If a bystander had possessed a gun no one would have been stabbed at all. But you're cool with death as long as it doesn't come from a bullet wound.

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again, putting words into my mouth that i didnt say, but then again, thats what people like you specialise in when you cant win an actual argument or even have a rational conversation.

A: I have never said to disarm Americans or outlaw all guns, even in the UK, it is possible to own Guns, just, you know, there are sensible restrictions on what you can own.

B: Where have i said that I'm "cool with death as long as it doesn't come from a bullet wound"? Thats just drivel straight from an NRA conditioning manual, congrats on being a good 2nd Amendment drone.

C: Yeah, maybe if a bystander had had a gun, less (or possibly, but unlikely, 0) Kids would have been hurt, but again, if the Perp had had a gun, more Kids would have been hurt and probably some killed too

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Thankfully, the perp heeded the gun control laws as he disregarded the law against committing murder. What happens when the next perp decides to disregard the gun control laws? You going hope a neutered Bobby comes along to talk him out of firing the next round?

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Should that happened, we have Armed Policemen to deal with them, fortunately, it doesnt happen that often

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What do you while you wait for the government to show up? Just watch people get killed. What a man!

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cms186 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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cms186 said:

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Wangchung said:

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cms186 said:

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Wangchung said:

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ShooterTX said:

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cms186 said:

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and thankfully, Knucklehead, I live in a country where Gun crime is not a concern for me and i dont need to own a dangerous weapon.

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maybe you should go watch the video in the original post on this thread... and then reconsider your statement about "gun crime".

I will warn you, it is hard to watch a video of a man casually walking around with a knife.... stabbing little babies in their strollers, while their mothers scream in horror. He was able to simply walk around with a knife because he knew that no one... NO ONE... was armed with any kind of weapons. He knew that his life was in no danger, and he could slaughter the children of his enemies at will.

But hey... no gun crimes were committed that day, right? So that's another win for "gun control".

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You know what else didnt happen that day? Noone died, noone was slaughtered. Yeah, its hard to watch and its terrible that it happened, but 4 kids getting hurt but not killed in a school playground is a far better outcome than any of the countless School Shootings that happen in America, when Kids do get slaughtered on the Altar of the 2nd Amendment.

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No one was slaughtered in the US that day, either. You can pretend you haven't been shown the evidence of self defense usage of guns all you like but willful ignorance isn't a credible argument.

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Oh no, I'm well aware Guns have a use as Self Defence, but I'm pointing out, in the face of your seemingly wilful ignorance, when you don't have a prevalence of them in society, there is much less need for them. Yes, tragic events will still happen like this particular instance, but it is impossible to deny that this would have turned out a lot worse if the perpetrator had a Gun, instead of a Knife.

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Well gosh, if we didn't have any criminals we wouldn't need to ban ANY weapons! If we didn't have anyone attempting to commit crimes we wouldn't need any laws, either! Gee, your use of impossible fantasy as your basis for wanting to outlaw guns seems like a brilliant rationale, but unfortunately here in the US we have physical borders with the 3rd world and we have a protected class of criminal that gets released back into the streets as fast as they are picked up. The guns are already here, so anyone arguing that law abiding citizens should disarm in effort to stop crime is an absolute moron.

If a bystander had possessed a gun no one would have been stabbed at all. But you're cool with death as long as it doesn't come from a bullet wound.

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again, putting words into my mouth that i didnt say, but then again, thats what people like you specialise in when you cant win an actual argument or even have a rational conversation.

A: I have never said to disarm Americans or outlaw all guns, even in the UK, it is possible to own Guns, just, you know, there are sensible restrictions on what you can own.

B: Where have i said that I'm "cool with death as long as it doesn't come from a bullet wound"? Thats just drivel straight from an NRA conditioning manual, congrats on being a good 2nd Amendment drone.

C: Yeah, maybe if a bystander had had a gun, less (or possibly, but unlikely, 0) Kids would have been hurt, but again, if the Perp had had a gun, more Kids would have been hurt and probably some killed too

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Thankfully, the perp heeded the gun control laws as he disregarded the law against committing murder. What happens when the next perp decides to disregard the gun control laws? You going hope a neutered Bobby comes along to talk him out of firing the next round?

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Should that happened, we have Armed Policemen to deal with them, fortunately, it doesnt happen that often

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What do you while you wait for the government to show up? Just watch people get killed. What a man!

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As i have previously said, we dont have that much of a problem with Gun crime to make that an issue, in areas where violent crime is more of an issue, there are regular armed patrols and rapid response Armed Police.

Firearms are used in about 0.2% of crimes in the UK (and that includes Air Rifles)

Just to compare, the UK has a Murder rate of 1.2 people for every 100'000 people, the USA has a murder rate of more than quadruple that at 4.96 people per 100'000, but please, lecture me how we arent safe without Guns

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and thankfully, Knucklehead, I live in a country where Gun crime is not a concern for me and i dont need to own a dangerous weapon.

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maybe you should go watch the video in the original post on this thread... and then reconsider your statement about "gun crime".

I will warn you, it is hard to watch a video of a man casually walking around with a knife.... stabbing little babies in their strollers, while their mothers scream in horror. He was able to simply walk around with a knife because he knew that no one... NO ONE... was armed with any kind of weapons. He knew that his life was in no danger, and he could slaughter the children of his enemies at will.

But hey... no gun crimes were committed that day, right? So that's another win for "gun control".

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You know what else didnt happen that day? Noone died, noone was slaughtered. Yeah, its hard to watch and its terrible that it happened, but 4 kids getting hurt but not killed in a school playground is a far better outcome than any of the countless School Shootings that happen in America, when Kids do get slaughtered on the Altar of the 2nd Amendment.

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No one was slaughtered in the US that day, either. You can pretend you haven't been shown the evidence of self defense usage of guns all you like but willful ignorance isn't a credible argument.

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Oh no, I'm well aware Guns have a use as Self Defence, but I'm pointing out, in the face of your seemingly wilful ignorance, when you don't have a prevalence of them in society, there is much less need for them. Yes, tragic events will still happen like this particular instance, but it is impossible to deny that this would have turned out a lot worse if the perpetrator had a Gun, instead of a Knife.

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Well gosh, if we didn't have any criminals we wouldn't need to ban ANY weapons! If we didn't have anyone attempting to commit crimes we wouldn't need any laws, either! Gee, your use of impossible fantasy as your basis for wanting to outlaw guns seems like a brilliant rationale, but unfortunately here in the US we have physical borders with the 3rd world and we have a protected class of criminal that gets released back into the streets as fast as they are picked up. The guns are already here, so anyone arguing that law abiding citizens should disarm in effort to stop crime is an absolute moron.

If a bystander had possessed a gun no one would have been stabbed at all. But you're cool with death as long as it doesn't come from a bullet wound.

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again, putting words into my mouth that i didnt say, but then again, thats what people like you specialise in when you cant win an actual argument or even have a rational conversation.

A: I have never said to disarm Americans or outlaw all guns, even in the UK, it is possible to own Guns, just, you know, there are sensible restrictions on what you can own.

B: Where have i said that I'm "cool with death as long as it doesn't come from a bullet wound"? Thats just drivel straight from an NRA conditioning manual, congrats on being a good 2nd Amendment drone.

C: Yeah, maybe if a bystander had had a gun, less (or possibly, but unlikely, 0) Kids would have been hurt, but again, if the Perp had had a gun, more Kids would have been hurt and probably some killed too

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Thankfully, the perp heeded the gun control laws as he disregarded the law against committing murder. What happens when the next perp decides to disregard the gun control laws? You going hope a neutered Bobby comes along to talk him out of firing the next round?

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Should that happened, we have Armed Policemen to deal with them, fortunately, it doesnt happen that often

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What do you while you wait for the government to show up? Just watch people get killed. What a man!

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As i have previously said, we dont have that much of a problem with Gun crime to make that an issue, in areas where violent crime is more of an issue, there are regular armed patrols and rapid response Armed Police.

Firearms are used in about 0.2% of crimes in the UK (and that includes Air Rifles)

Just to compare, the UK has a Murder rate of 1.2 people for every 100'000 people, the USA has a murder rate of more than quadruple that at 4.96 people per 100'000, but please, lecture me how we arent safe without Guns

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A bad guy doesn't need a gun to kill anyone. He can do it with a knife, a hammer, his hands, a baseball bat, or any of a number of other implements. The UK has had mass shootings and mass casualty murders since it outlawed handguns in 1996.

The difference between now and then is that good people will not have the most effective option to protect themselves and others from violent people. Does the government employ the only real men who would employ force to protect the innocent? Or are the government agents also eager to farm out their moral responsibility to others?

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and thankfully, Knucklehead, I live in a country where Gun crime is not a concern for me and i dont need to own a dangerous weapon.

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maybe you should go watch the video in the original post on this thread... and then reconsider your statement about "gun crime".

I will warn you, it is hard to watch a video of a man casually walking around with a knife.... stabbing little babies in their strollers, while their mothers scream in horror. He was able to simply walk around with a knife because he knew that no one... NO ONE... was armed with any kind of weapons. He knew that his life was in no danger, and he could slaughter the children of his enemies at will.

But hey... no gun crimes were committed that day, right? So that's another win for "gun control".

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You know what else didnt happen that day? Noone died, noone was slaughtered. Yeah, its hard to watch and its terrible that it happened, but 4 kids getting hurt but not killed in a school playground is a far better outcome than any of the countless School Shootings that happen in America, when Kids do get slaughtered on the Altar of the 2nd Amendment.

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No one was slaughtered in the US that day, either. You can pretend you haven't been shown the evidence of self defense usage of guns all you like but willful ignorance isn't a credible argument.

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Oh no, I'm well aware Guns have a use as Self Defence, but I'm pointing out, in the face of your seemingly wilful ignorance, when you don't have a prevalence of them in society, there is much less need for them. Yes, tragic events will still happen like this particular instance, but it is impossible to deny that this would have turned out a lot worse if the perpetrator had a Gun, instead of a Knife.

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Well gosh, if we didn't have any criminals we wouldn't need to ban ANY weapons! If we didn't have anyone attempting to commit crimes we wouldn't need any laws, either! Gee, your use of impossible fantasy as your basis for wanting to outlaw guns seems like a brilliant rationale, but unfortunately here in the US we have physical borders with the 3rd world and we have a protected class of criminal that gets released back into the streets as fast as they are picked up. The guns are already here, so anyone arguing that law abiding citizens should disarm in effort to stop crime is an absolute moron.

If a bystander had possessed a gun no one would have been stabbed at all. But you're cool with death as long as it doesn't come from a bullet wound.

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again, putting words into my mouth that i didnt say, but then again, thats what people like you specialise in when you cant win an actual argument or even have a rational conversation.

A: I have never said to disarm Americans or outlaw all guns, even in the UK, it is possible to own Guns, just, you know, there are sensible restrictions on what you can own.

B: Where have i said that I'm "cool with death as long as it doesn't come from a bullet wound"? Thats just drivel straight from an NRA conditioning manual, congrats on being a good 2nd Amendment drone.

C: Yeah, maybe if a bystander had had a gun, less (or possibly, but unlikely, 0) Kids would have been hurt, but again, if the Perp had had a gun, more Kids would have been hurt and probably some killed too

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How did it work out when only the perp had a knife and everyone who followed the law was disarmed? That's the reality. It works the same way here when only the criminal is armed. The difference is we have guns to contend with and knives just don't get the job done. I realize you specifically have not advocated for banning guns or any actual remedies, but that sort of generalized argument only gives power to those who use that same esoteric message of "common sense gun laws" etc as their cudgel with which they acquire more power and money and cover for very specific restrictions that only affect law abiding citizens. What you actually support might differ from your rhetoric, it's not me placing words in your mouth.

I was going to list some stats about how the UK overall crime rate was worse than that of the US, but the US has worse crime rates in many categories. Got kind of rabbit holed looking through the pages. Its an interesting read. https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime

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what can you do? ok, so plenty of your citizenry have guns, but lets be real here, the Government has Armed Forces with advanced Weapons, Armour, Tanks, Artillery, Drones, Aircraft, Training on how to actually fight as cohesive units and all kinds of advanced logistics, if it ever came to that (It wont), your armed ragtag militia (Several of whom wouldnt be in great shape, compared to Soldiers who have to be fit as part of their jobs) would be branded as Domestic Terrorists and erased from the map in a matter of days.

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You might want to talk with the Vietnamese and Afghani people about how impossible it is for an armed, indigenous people to fight against a "superior" force.