More Mothers Are Dying Since Dobbs

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Wrecks Quan Dough
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quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Still waiting for the name of one mother who died in Texas due to the Dobbs decision.

Still waiting for the name of one child killed by Plan B pill.



They died before they could be give a name so that your conscience might be assuaged.
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Still waiting for the name of one mother who died in Texas due to the Dobbs decision.

Still waiting for the name of one child killed by Plan B pill.



They died before they could be give a name so that your conscience might be assuaged.

Wrong. They died before they were children.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Wrecks Quan Dough
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quash said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Still waiting for the name of one mother who died in Texas due to the Dobbs decision.

Still waiting for the name of one child killed by Plan B pill.



They died before they could be give a name so that your conscience might be assuaged.

Wrong. They died before they were children.



They are human at fertilization.
Harrison Bergeron
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quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Still waiting for the name of one mother who died in Texas due to the Dobbs decision.

Still waiting for the name of one child killed by Plan B pill.

Are you under the impression we give birth certificates to pre-born children?

Has Greg Abbott banned TikTok yet?
4th and Inches
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quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Still waiting for the name of one mother who died in Texas due to the Dobbs decision.

Still waiting for the name of one child killed by Plan B pill.

be grateful your mom chose plan A
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quash
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4th and Inches said:

quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Still waiting for the name of one mother who died in Texas due to the Dobbs decision.

Still waiting for the name of one child killed by Plan B pill.

be grateful your mom chose plan A

I'm grateful you acknowledge the choice involved.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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quash said:

boognish_bear said:



"Will sell principles for votes "

Actually, I think 15 weeks is a reasonable limit. Many women don't even realize they are pregnant at 6 weeks. Personally, I think abortion is a horrible thing.
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Harrison Bergeron
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quash said:

4th and Inches said:

quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Still waiting for the name of one mother who died in Texas due to the Dobbs decision.

Still waiting for the name of one child killed by Plan B pill.

be grateful your mom chose plan A

I'm grateful you acknowledge the choice involved.

I acknowledge the choice involved each time your mother chose not to drown you in the tub or shake you to death when you would not stop crying.
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KaiBear said:

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Just has to be Lindsey Graham's last term.

He has degenerated into something so stupid and reckless even South Carolina rednecks won't vote for .


Harrison Bergeron
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It's not complicated. It is a state issue. A federal abortion ban is unconstitutional just like Roe was imaginary.
Wrecks Quan Dough
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

quash said:

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"Will sell principles for votes "

Actually, I think 15 weeks is a reasonable limit. Many women don't even realize they are pregnant at 6 weeks. Personally, I think abortion is a horrible thing.


Lindsey doesn't understand federalism or that the federal government was intended to have limited powers.
Harrison Bergeron
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

quash said:

boognish_bear said:



"Will sell principles for votes "

Actually, I think 15 weeks is a reasonable limit. Many women don't even realize they are pregnant at 6 weeks. Personally, I think abortion is a horrible thing.


Lindsey doesn't understand federalism or that the federal government was intended to have limited powers.
And abortion actually is a perfect example of the genius of federalism. If California and New York want to make it legal to kill children after they've been born, they can. If Texas and Florida want to limit murdering babies, it can.

That's what annoys me about all the talk of "does the U.S. need to break up," which usually comes from the low information regressives who cannot implement authoritarianism ... our system is designed to accommodate diversity ... if someone is so passionate about killing black babies they can move to New York or California.
Redbrickbear
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Harrison Bergeron
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Redbrickbear said:


The Democrat Circle of Illogic.

This is not happening.
This is happening and it is a good thing.

The Celebration Parallax.
historian
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Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Wangchung said:

ron.reagan said:

Doc Holliday said:

ron.reagan said:

Doc Holliday said:

ron.reagan said:

Doc Holliday said:

Less babies are dying since Dobbs
Less professional performed abortions. No evidence of less babies dying, unless you have a source?
Population is higher than it would have been because of Dobbs.
Are you accounting for the murders from the thugs that grow up without dads?
Are you accounting for demographics in your assertion?

Your lefty friends will eat you alive for what you're getting at.
I suppose if you don't have any real friends and just watch MSNBC to get angry you could come to that conclusion.
Still no citation on all those illegal abortions you claimed?
I didn't make such a claim. I'm just happy you guys are happy that we will have exponential growth of fatherless criminals in a few generations.

I think this is a good place to point out that Ron here is a liberal who flys Ukraine flags from his house and thinks its right-wingers who are heartless and evil.

Yet here he is saying we need to kill more innocent children so they don't potentially grow up to commit crimes.

I would assume he is a troll of some kind if I had not met so many liberals who fit his profile 100%

Of course he's a troll: the screen name is a dead give away considering the agitprop he repeats.
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Sam Lowry said:

Rawhide said:

Democrats: We should never ban abortion because women will get abortions anyway, mostly in unsafe ways, with, um, like coat hangers and stuff

Also Democrats: We should ban "assault" weapons because that will keep people from getting them.
I'm 100 percent pro-Dobbs. But if state laws are killing women, those laws are going to get repealed. This is neither compassionate nor politically wise.

I suspect those reports are mostly propaganda with little to no basis in fact.
Redbrickbear
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historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rawhide said:

Democrats: We should never ban abortion because women will get abortions anyway, mostly in unsafe ways, with, um, like coat hangers and stuff

Also Democrats: We should ban "assault" weapons because that will keep people from getting them.
I'm 100 percent pro-Dobbs. But if state laws are killing women, those laws are going to get repealed. This is neither compassionate nor politically wise.

I suspect those reports are mostly propaganda with little to no basis in fact.



Real or not everyone has to prepare for the media to run various hit stories and "George Floyd but for abortion" martyr narratives

They Irish and UK media gave them the blue print to use with death of Savita Halappanavar in 2012

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar


Her death was used to morally blackmail the Irish pubic into changing the Constitution.


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Redbrickbear said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rawhide said:

Democrats: We should never ban abortion because women will get abortions anyway, mostly in unsafe ways, with, um, like coat hangers and stuff

Also Democrats: We should ban "assault" weapons because that will keep people from getting them.
I'm 100 percent pro-Dobbs. But if state laws are killing women, those laws are going to get repealed. This is neither compassionate nor politically wise.

I suspect those reports are mostly propaganda with little to no basis in fact.



Real or not everyone has to prepare for the media to run various hit stories and "George Floyd but for abortion" martyr narratives

They Irish and UK media gave them the blue print to use with death of Savita Halappanavar in 2012

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar


Her death was used to morally blackmail the Irish pubic into changing the Constitution.
Anecdotes rarely if ever are the basis for good public policy regardless of the issue.

Queue the regressive left hypocrisy ... amazing how every time someone kills someone with an AR-15 there are hysterics and gnashing of teeth but every time an illegal alien commits a crime there is no concern about guarding the border ...
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where exactly is samuel???

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Sam Lowry said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rawhide said:

Democrats: We should never ban abortion because women will get abortions anyway, mostly in unsafe ways, with, um, like coat hangers and stuff

Also Democrats: We should ban "assault" weapons because that will keep people from getting them.
I'm 100 percent pro-Dobbs. But if state laws are killing women, those laws are going to get repealed. This is neither compassionate nor politically wise.


State laws aren't killing women. Go read a book. Good grief.
Doctors seem to disagree, but I'm glad the issue is settled in your mind.
Provide the death certificates, numbers and facts that prove you and those doctors "opinions" right. There has not been one woman who has died because of lack of abortion access.
historian
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A whole lot of baby girls have been brutally murdered because of too much abortion access.
Redbrickbear
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historian said:

A whole lot of baby girls have been brutally murdered because of too much abortion access.

Yea such a strange argument.

Some very small number of mothers might die each year because of abortion bans.

Vs the 700,000-1,000,000 abortions that happen each year...half of those or more being little girls.

Its staggering how much the lives of women don't matter to feminists...when those women happen to be in fetal development and young.
historian
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I often wonder how many baby girls are aborted, MURDERED, because they are girls. It's a legitimate question when one considers that some cultures value baby boys over baby girls along with the current state of immigration.
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historian said:

I often wonder how many baby girls are aborted, MURDERED, because they are girls. It's a legitimate question when one considers that some cultures value baby boys over baby girls along with the current state of immigration.

I assume its a problem in the Western world.

Its a known and proven MASSIVE problem in places like India and China....were a preference for baby boys had led to something like a holocaust of female child murder via abortion.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2199874-sex-selective-abortions-may-have-stopped-the-birth-of-23-million-girls/

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/aug/21/selective-abortion-in-india-could-lead-to-68m-fewer-girls-being-born-by-2030

And its leading to massive gender imbalances in the population of those countries...with more males than females in the general population.

[This phenomenon is sometimes referred to as the missing women or missing girls of China. In 2021, the male-to-female ratio of China is recorded at 104.61 to 100]

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Redbrickbear said:

historian said:

I often wonder how many baby girls are aborted, MURDERED, because they are girls. It's a legitimate question when one considers that some cultures value baby boys over baby girls along with the current state of immigration.

I assume its a problem in the Western world.

Its a known and proven MASSIVE problem in places like India and China....were a preference for baby boys had led to something like a holocaust of female child murder via abortion.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2199874-sex-selective-abortions-may-have-stopped-the-birth-of-23-million-girls/

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/aug/21/selective-abortion-in-india-could-lead-to-68m-fewer-girls-being-born-by-2030

And its leading to massive gender imbalances in the population of those countries...with more males than females in the general population.

[This phenomenon is sometimes referred to as the missing women or missing girls of China. In 2021, the male-to-female ratio of China is recorded at 104.61 to 100]



All excellent points. China in particular with their one could policy for 50 years faces a demographic crisis because millions of women who want to get married today cannot find wives.

In America it's not as noticeable because those cultures are in a minority and the pro-death groups downplay any aspects of their child murder agenda that might draw attention to the misogyny (like the numbers of women physically harmed by abortion or the psychological trauma that many experience). I don't think Planned Parenthood or the Gutmacher Institute (their propaganda arm) keeps track of how many babies they kill because of their sex.
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Harrison Bergeron said:


Queue the regressive left hypocrisy ... amazing how every time someone kills someone with an AR-15 there are hysterics and gnashing of teeth but every time an illegal alien commits a crime there is no concern about guarding the border ...


It isn't hypocrisy when you realize that the goal of the Fourth Reich is to disarm and replace its opposition. When seen in that light, the two reactions are quite cohesive and complementary even though the minions of the Reich may be too stupid to see it.
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Cosmopolitan Satanists
"Have you noticed," asks a friend, "the acceleration in the positive mentions of Satanism and the occult? Did you see that piece in Cosmopolitan praising Satanic ritual abortion clinics?"
Here it is. It's a profile of the Samuel Alito's Mom's Satanic Abortion Clinic. Excerpt:
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"I think it's genius," says Jessica* over hands-free while driving her kids around Albuquerque, running errands. The 37-year-old mother of three isn't a Satanist, but as of this week, she's a fan. She's also pregnant but not for long. A set of abortion pills is waiting for her back home, thanks to speedy shipping via Samuel Alito's Mom's Satanic team.
Jessica and her husband don't want any more children, especially given her history of super-high-risk pregnancies. Still, "It's hard. It's a hard decision," she says. She's decided to terminate this pregnancy within the next day or so, starting with an oral mifepristone pill in the morning followed by four misoprostol pills administered vaginally six hours later.
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… Jessica was pleasantly surprised by the TST [The Satanic Temple] intake consult she did at home over Zoom. "The experience was just very supportive," she says. "I think that's the biggest thingthey really reinforce that this is your decision and your choice and that you are supported."
She listened with curiosity as the nurse described the optional ceremonial aspects of the Satanic abortion ritual: First, you find a quiet space. Bring a mirror if you can. Just before taking the medication, gaze at your reflection and focus on your personhood. Home in on your intent, your responsibility to you. Take a few deep, relaxing breaths. When you're ready, read the following tenet aloud: One's body is inviolable, subject to one's own will alone. Take the medication and immediately afterward, recite, Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs. Later, once your body expels the aborted tissue, return to your reflection. Focus again on your personhood, your power in making this decision. Complete the ritual by reciting a personal affirmation: By my body, my blood; by my will, it is done.
The ritual allows for personalization. Patients can include as many loved ones as they'd like or light candles or even dress upwhatever makes them feel empowered. "We have ministers, myself included, who are available to walk people through the process," Blythe adds.
Jessica decided to incorporate some ceremonial aspects into her solo abortion experience. Why not? she thought. The overall messaging just clicked with her.
Very few Americans will ever enter into anything run by The Satanic Temple. But this ritual you have just read about is how very many, perhaps even most, Americans think. Pop Satanism is worship of the Self. You might remember my telling you about the apostate from Aleister Crowley's OTO organization who came to the church I attended a few years back. He told me one day at coffee hour after the liturgy that all the things they read of Crowley's work from the early 20th century the way Crowley wanted to use ritual transgressive sex to transform Western civilization was strange to encounter, because all you have to do is look around to see that it has already triumphed.
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Narcissism combined with the sexual Revolution. What an insane combination that is!
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The scotch-Irish keep on being awesome


 
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