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"Rich Men in a California Library"

Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do

California Public Library Silences Female Athlete pic.twitter.com/dHYaxBFlr1

— CA Family Council (@CAFamily) August 21, 2023

Earlier, the librarian suggested it was against state law to misgender someone or a group of people.

That was his basis for kicking them out of the public library, making it impossible to talk about the problem of biological males competing in female sports. pic.twitter.com/O9mrUYyvsj

— Jonathan Zachreson (@JZachreson) August 21, 2023

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Orwellian authoritarianism.

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that hits

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that guy gets-it

Rich Men North of Richmond raiding a 98 year old woman's home. She died the next day.

Police raid 98 year old Joan Meyer's house. She was the co-owner of the Marion County Record. The police chief of the small town in Kansas was being investigated by the paper over allegations of sexual misconduct . Whole force raided her house . She died 2 days later. pic.twitter.com/nVhWoX94eX

— Ryan morton CITIZEN JOURNALISTS (@Ryanmor54929339) August 23, 2023

BREAKING: Oliver Anthony releases new 'Brink of War' song pic.twitter.com/bPvV6xxyOk

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 23, 2023

I like Christopher Lunsford, AKA Oliver Anthony Music. I've listened to everything he's put out on Spotify and Youtube, and I think he's a talented singer and songwriter who seems to be a legitimately good dude.

I think it's really unfortunate how his song has been co-opted by a few partisan hacks on the right and that he's been vilified by the left as a result. Both completely miss the point of his music IMO.

I don't particularly care what his politics are, but outside of a couple of over-scrutinized lines in "Rich Men" nothing he's sung or said would suggest he's an agent or supporter of any political party/movement. He's just singing what he feels/sharing his perspective and it's connecting with a lot of people from a lot of different backgrounds.

It's sad that we can't take anyone at their word anymore. Partisan politics ruin everything.

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BREAKING: Oliver Anthony releases new 'Brink of War' song pic.twitter.com/bPvV6xxyOk

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 23, 2023

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This is a pretty good example of the co-opting I'm referring to in the post above.

This song is called "I want to go home," and it's not new. He released the original track in April.

This is a re-recording with better equipment of a song that has existed with its actual name for months. To throw this out with an alternative title and essentially steal OA's views on Twitter is really dishonest IMO.

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BREAKING: Oliver Anthony releases new 'Brink of War' song pic.twitter.com/bPvV6xxyOk

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 23, 2023

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This is a pretty good example of the co-opting I'm referring to in the post above.

This song is called "I want to go home," and it's not new. He released the original track in April.

This is a re-recording with better equipment of a song that has existed with its actual name for months. To throw this out with an alternative title and essentially steal OA's views on Twitter is really dishonest IMO.

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Honestly confused ... how do you get from the comment releases "new 'Brink of War' song" to "co-opting?" When you use that word, what do you mean? Is it possible you mean "celebrate?"

Harrison Bergeron said:

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BREAKING: Oliver Anthony releases new 'Brink of War' song pic.twitter.com/bPvV6xxyOk

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 23, 2023

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This is a pretty good example of the co-opting I'm referring to in the post above.

This song is called "I want to go home," and it's not new. He released the original track in April.

This is a re-recording with better equipment of a song that has existed with its actual name for months. To throw this out with an alternative title and essentially steal OA's views on Twitter is really dishonest IMO.

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Honestly confused ... how do you get from the comment releases "new 'Brink of War' song" to "co-opting?" When you use that word, what do you mean? Is it possible you mean "celebrate?"

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Because "Brink of War" would suggest the song is an anti-war protest song, which it is not. Many on the right would like it to be based on their current position on Russia and Ukraine, but the song -- like most of OA's -- is about living in a world he doesn't quite recognize and doesn't particularly want to embrace. It mentions being on the brink of war once, and that is not a major theme.

Mistitling it to suggest otherwise -- and this wasn't an accident because a bunch of prominent right-wing Twitter users did it at the same time -- is just another example of trying to force OA's message to fit one's own agenda. It's happened a ton on both sides, and it does a disservice to the actual message in OA's music, videos and interviews, which is one of unity and against political division.

bear2be2 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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bear2be2 said:

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BREAKING: Oliver Anthony releases new 'Brink of War' song pic.twitter.com/bPvV6xxyOk

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 23, 2023

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This is a pretty good example of the co-opting I'm referring to in the post above.

This song is called "I want to go home," and it's not new. He released the original track in April.

This is a re-recording with better equipment of a song that has existed with its actual name for months. To throw this out with an alternative title and essentially steal OA's views on Twitter is really dishonest IMO.

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Honestly confused ... how do you get from the comment releases "new 'Brink of War' song" to "co-opting?" When you use that word, what do you mean? Is it possible you mean "celebrate?"

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Because "Brink of War" would suggest the song is an anti-war protest song, which it is not. Many on the right would like it to be based on their current position on Russia and Ukraine, but the song -- like most of OA's -- is about living in a world he doesn't quite recognize and doesn't particularly want to embrace. It mentions being on the brink of war once, and that is not a major theme.

Mistitling it to suggest otherwise -- and this wasn't an accident because a bunch of prominent right-wing Twitter users did it at the same time -- is just another example of trying to force OA's message to fit one's own agenda. It's happened a ton on both sides, and it does a disservice to the actual message in OA's music, videos and interviews, which is one of unity and against political division.

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That's too bad. I noticed the title discrepancy but didn't know the background.

bear2be2 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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BREAKING: Oliver Anthony releases new 'Brink of War' song pic.twitter.com/bPvV6xxyOk

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 23, 2023

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This is a pretty good example of the co-opting I'm referring to in the post above.

This song is called "I want to go home," and it's not new. He released the original track in April.

This is a re-recording with better equipment of a song that has existed with its actual name for months. To throw this out with an alternative title and essentially steal OA's views on Twitter is really dishonest IMO.

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Honestly confused ... how do you get from the comment releases "new 'Brink of War' song" to "co-opting?" When you use that word, what do you mean? Is it possible you mean "celebrate?"

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Because "Brink of War" would suggest the song is an anti-war protest song, which it is not. Many on the right would like it to be based on their current position on Russia and Ukraine, but the song -- like most of OA's -- is about living in a world he doesn't quite recognize and doesn't particularly want to embrace. It mentions being on the brink of war once, and that is not a major theme.

Mistitling it to suggest otherwise -- and this wasn't an accident because a bunch of prominent right-wing Twitter users did it at the same time -- is just another example of trying to force OA's message to fit one's own agenda. It's happened a ton on both sides, and it does a disservice to the actual message in OA's music, videos and interviews, which is one of unity and against political division.

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Thanks - I
missed the obvious title change issue, so my bad. What you described above sounds a lot like many MAGA folks.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Swamp said:

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BREAKING: Oliver Anthony releases new 'Brink of War' song pic.twitter.com/bPvV6xxyOk

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 23, 2023

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This is a pretty good example of the co-opting I'm referring to in the post above.

This song is called "I want to go home," and it's not new. He released the original track in April.

This is a re-recording with better equipment of a song that has existed with its actual name for months. To throw this out with an alternative title and essentially steal OA's views on Twitter is really dishonest IMO.

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Honestly confused ... how do you get from the comment releases "new 'Brink of War' song" to "co-opting?" When you use that word, what do you mean? Is it possible you mean "celebrate?"

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Because "Brink of War" would suggest the song is an anti-war protest song, which it is not. Many on the right would like it to be based on their current position on Russia and Ukraine, but the song -- like most of OA's -- is about living in a world he doesn't quite recognize and doesn't particularly want to embrace. It mentions being on the brink of war once, and that is not a major theme.

Mistitling it to suggest otherwise -- and this wasn't an accident because a bunch of prominent right-wing Twitter users did it at the same time -- is just another example of trying to force OA's message to fit one's own agenda. It's happened a ton on both sides, and it does a disservice to the actual message in OA's music, videos and interviews, which is one of unity and against political division.

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Thanks - I
missed the obvious title change issue, so my bad. What you described above sounds a lot like many MAGA folks.

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You're good. When I first started seeing the tweets pop up one after another, I thought maybe he had changed the name on the re-release. But he had not. He put it up on Spotify shortly after under the same name as before.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Swamp said:

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BREAKING: Oliver Anthony releases new 'Brink of War' song pic.twitter.com/bPvV6xxyOk

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 23, 2023

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This is a pretty good example of the co-opting I'm referring to in the post above.

This song is called "I want to go home," and it's not new. He released the original track in April.

This is a re-recording with better equipment of a song that has existed with its actual name for months. To throw this out with an alternative title and essentially steal OA's views on Twitter is really dishonest IMO.

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Honestly confused ... how do you get from the comment releases "new 'Brink of War' song" to "co-opting?" When you use that word, what do you mean? Is it possible you mean "celebrate?"

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Because "Brink of War" would suggest the song is an anti-war protest song, which it is not. Many on the right would like it to be based on their current position on Russia and Ukraine, but the song -- like most of OA's -- is about living in a world he doesn't quite recognize and doesn't particularly want to embrace. It mentions being on the brink of war once, and that is not a major theme.

Mistitling it to suggest otherwise -- and this wasn't an accident because a bunch of prominent right-wing Twitter users did it at the same time -- is just another example of trying to force OA's message to fit one's own agenda. It's happened a ton on both sides, and it does a disservice to the actual message in OA's music, videos and interviews, which is one of unity and against political division.

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Thanks - I
missed the obvious title change issue, so my bad. What you described above sounds a lot like many MAGA folks.

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There's a lot more in the song (i.e. the whole song) to appeal to conservatives than just a hi-jacked title....... B2Be captured it well there, in bold. At least a plurality of the country feels that way, and the sentiment is growing.

OA's work is essentially about the bewilderment of ordinary people lamenting the demise of a good culture, watching a constructive order that has served them well crumble under the combined weight of progressive assault and conservative neglect. OA is hardly alone in his critique, just more articulate, and perhaps most of all, timely. In less than a generation, most of what several generations were taught was good has somehow been morphed by pseudo-intellectuals into oppression. Worse, those north of Richmond, whom the middle class expected to stand up for them, ignored it all to pass the policies which have not benefited anyone much beyond the donor class. and now, middle class discontent about cancel culture is turning to outright fear as they watch political elites so casually abuse power to coerce thought and action, to include alleging sedition to suppress inconvenient narratives.

So whether OA wants his music to be political or not....it is.


OA can pretend to be centrist if he wishes, but his messaging has resonance that is clearly not identifiable with progressive sensibilities. It is the anthem of the disaffected.

I have receipts pic.twitter.com/2gtoVs3Ix0

— Rothmus 🏴 (@Rothmus) August 25, 2023

whiterock said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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BREAKING: Oliver Anthony releases new 'Brink of War' song pic.twitter.com/bPvV6xxyOk

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 23, 2023

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This is a pretty good example of the co-opting I'm referring to in the post above.

This song is called "I want to go home," and it's not new. He released the original track in April.

This is a re-recording with better equipment of a song that has existed with its actual name for months. To throw this out with an alternative title and essentially steal OA's views on Twitter is really dishonest IMO.

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Honestly confused ... how do you get from the comment releases "new 'Brink of War' song" to "co-opting?" When you use that word, what do you mean? Is it possible you mean "celebrate?"

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Because "Brink of War" would suggest the song is an anti-war protest song, which it is not. Many on the right would like it to be based on their current position on Russia and Ukraine, but the song -- like most of OA's -- is about living in a world he doesn't quite recognize and doesn't particularly want to embrace. It mentions being on the brink of war once, and that is not a major theme.

Mistitling it to suggest otherwise -- and this wasn't an accident because a bunch of prominent right-wing Twitter users did it at the same time -- is just another example of trying to force OA's message to fit one's own agenda. It's happened a ton on both sides, and it does a disservice to the actual message in OA's music, videos and interviews, which is one of unity and against political division.

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Thanks - I
missed the obvious title change issue, so my bad. What you described above sounds a lot like many MAGA folks.

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There's a lot more in the song (i.e. the whole song) to appeal to conservatives than just a hi-jacked title....... B2Be captured it well there, in bold. At least a plurality of the country feels that way, and the sentiment is growing.

OA's work is essentially about the bewilderment of ordinary people lamenting the demise of a good culture, watching a constructive order that has served them well crumble under the combined weight of progressive assault and conservative neglect. OA is hardly alone in his critique, just more articulate, and perhaps most of all, timely. In less than a generation, most of what several generations were taught was good has somehow been morphed by pseudo-intellectuals into oppression. Worse, those north of Richmond, whom the middle class expected to stand up for them, ignored it all to pass the policies which have not benefited anyone much beyond the donor class. and now, middle class discontent about cancel culture is turning to outright fear as they watch political elites so casually abuse power to coerce thought and action, to include alleging sedition to suppress inconvenient narratives.

So whether OA wants his music to be political or not....it is.


OA can pretend to be centrist if he wishes, but his messaging has resonance that is clearly not identifiable with progressive sensibilities. It is the anthem of the disaffected.

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There are disaffected on both sides of the political aisle. OA's messaging resonates as much, if not more with those forgotten and left behind by an economic system and climate that favors the ultra rich over those making and keeping them rich as it does with those fighting conservative culture wars.

Like I said before, I honestly don't care what he (or anyone else) believes politically. I just don't like seeing people use his words to serve their own purposes. I think everyone should have the right to enjoy his music for whatever reason they want to. But when you start trying to use him and his words to push agendas they weren't intended to push, you do a disservice to him and his intended message.

bear2be2 said:

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whiterock said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Swamp said:

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BREAKING: Oliver Anthony releases new 'Brink of War' song pic.twitter.com/bPvV6xxyOk

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 23, 2023

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This is a pretty good example of the co-opting I'm referring to in the post above.

This song is called "I want to go home," and it's not new. He released the original track in April.

This is a re-recording with better equipment of a song that has existed with its actual name for months. To throw this out with an alternative title and essentially steal OA's views on Twitter is really dishonest IMO.

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Honestly confused ... how do you get from the comment releases "new 'Brink of War' song" to "co-opting?" When you use that word, what do you mean? Is it possible you mean "celebrate?"

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Because "Brink of War" would suggest the song is an anti-war protest song, which it is not. Many on the right would like it to be based on their current position on Russia and Ukraine, but the song -- like most of OA's -- is about living in a world he doesn't quite recognize and doesn't particularly want to embrace. It mentions being on the brink of war once, and that is not a major theme.

Mistitling it to suggest otherwise -- and this wasn't an accident because a bunch of prominent right-wing Twitter users did it at the same time -- is just another example of trying to force OA's message to fit one's own agenda. It's happened a ton on both sides, and it does a disservice to the actual message in OA's music, videos and interviews, which is one of unity and against political division.

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Thanks - I
missed the obvious title change issue, so my bad. What you described above sounds a lot like many MAGA folks.

---

There's a lot more in the song (i.e. the whole song) to appeal to conservatives than just a hi-jacked title....... B2Be captured it well there, in bold. At least a plurality of the country feels that way, and the sentiment is growing.

OA's work is essentially about the bewilderment of ordinary people lamenting the demise of a good culture, watching a constructive order that has served them well crumble under the combined weight of progressive assault and conservative neglect. OA is hardly alone in his critique, just more articulate, and perhaps most of all, timely. In less than a generation, most of what several generations were taught was good has somehow been morphed by pseudo-intellectuals into oppression. Worse, those north of Richmond, whom the middle class expected to stand up for them, ignored it all to pass the policies which have not benefited anyone much beyond the donor class. and now, middle class discontent about cancel culture is turning to outright fear as they watch political elites so casually abuse power to coerce thought and action, to include alleging sedition to suppress inconvenient narratives.

So whether OA wants his music to be political or not....it is.


OA can pretend to be centrist if he wishes, but his messaging has resonance that is clearly not identifiable with progressive sensibilities. It is the anthem of the disaffected.

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There are disaffected on both sides of the political aisle. OA's messaging resonates as much, if not more with those forgotten and left behind by an economic system and climate that favors the ultra rich over those making and keeping them rich as it does with those fighting conservative culture wars.

Like I said before, I honestly don't care what he (or anyone else) believes politically. I just don't like seeing people use his words to serve their own purposes. I think everyone should have the right to enjoy his music for whatever reason they want to. But when you start trying to use him and his words to push agendas they weren't intended to push, you do a disservice to him and his intended message.

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You were spot on until that part there in bold.

The people fighting the culture wars are all on the left. THEY started the fights over the definition of marriage and the definition of boys and girls and, etc.... creating a toxic environment of normaphobia which no one can escape. And when someone does speak out about the madness (as OA is clearly doing), they are defined as a culture warrior.

OA's discontent is about all the virtue posturing over social justice, which solves not a single problem of ordinary people.....about all the money spent saving the planet from global warming rather than providing cheap, affordable energy.....about the policies promoting electric cars that suit almost no one who does not live in an urban environment.....about all the cheap labor the federal government allows to cross the border illegally, thereby depressing the wages of not civil servants but the kind of skilled laborers OA is clearly singing about.....etc... Government is not only not doing things to make the pursuit of happiness easier for ordinary people, it is actually making that pursuit more difficult, almost uniformly across the board.

Seriously. there is no greater evidence of socio-political pathology than elite society branding as a culture warrior anyone who quibbles with the progressive onslaught against cultural norms.

whiterock said:

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bear2be2 said:

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whiterock said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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bear2be2 said:

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BREAKING: Oliver Anthony releases new 'Brink of War' song pic.twitter.com/bPvV6xxyOk

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 23, 2023

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This is a pretty good example of the co-opting I'm referring to in the post above.

This song is called "I want to go home," and it's not new. He released the original track in April.

This is a re-recording with better equipment of a song that has existed with its actual name for months. To throw this out with an alternative title and essentially steal OA's views on Twitter is really dishonest IMO.

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Honestly confused ... how do you get from the comment releases "new 'Brink of War' song" to "co-opting?" When you use that word, what do you mean? Is it possible you mean "celebrate?"

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Because "Brink of War" would suggest the song is an anti-war protest song, which it is not. Many on the right would like it to be based on their current position on Russia and Ukraine, but the song -- like most of OA's -- is about living in a world he doesn't quite recognize and doesn't particularly want to embrace. It mentions being on the brink of war once, and that is not a major theme.

Mistitling it to suggest otherwise -- and this wasn't an accident because a bunch of prominent right-wing Twitter users did it at the same time -- is just another example of trying to force OA's message to fit one's own agenda. It's happened a ton on both sides, and it does a disservice to the actual message in OA's music, videos and interviews, which is one of unity and against political division.

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Thanks - I
missed the obvious title change issue, so my bad. What you described above sounds a lot like many MAGA folks.

---

There's a lot more in the song (i.e. the whole song) to appeal to conservatives than just a hi-jacked title....... B2Be captured it well there, in bold. At least a plurality of the country feels that way, and the sentiment is growing.

OA's work is essentially about the bewilderment of ordinary people lamenting the demise of a good culture, watching a constructive order that has served them well crumble under the combined weight of progressive assault and conservative neglect. OA is hardly alone in his critique, just more articulate, and perhaps most of all, timely. In less than a generation, most of what several generations were taught was good has somehow been morphed by pseudo-intellectuals into oppression. Worse, those north of Richmond, whom the middle class expected to stand up for them, ignored it all to pass the policies which have not benefited anyone much beyond the donor class. and now, middle class discontent about cancel culture is turning to outright fear as they watch political elites so casually abuse power to coerce thought and action, to include alleging sedition to suppress inconvenient narratives.

So whether OA wants his music to be political or not....it is.


OA can pretend to be centrist if he wishes, but his messaging has resonance that is clearly not identifiable with progressive sensibilities. It is the anthem of the disaffected.

---

There are disaffected on both sides of the political aisle. OA's messaging resonates as much, if not more with those forgotten and left behind by an economic system and climate that favors the ultra rich over those making and keeping them rich as it does with those fighting conservative culture wars.

Like I said before, I honestly don't care what he (or anyone else) believes politically. I just don't like seeing people use his words to serve their own purposes. I think everyone should have the right to enjoy his music for whatever reason they want to. But when you start trying to use him and his words to push agendas they weren't intended to push, you do a disservice to him and his intended message.

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You were spot on until that part there in bold.

The people fighting the culture wars are all on the left. THEY started the fights over the definition of marriage and the definition of boys and girls and, etc.... creating a toxic environment of normaphobia which no one can escape. And when someone does speak out about the madness (as OA is clearly doing), they are defined as a culture warrior.

OA's discontent is about all the virtue posturing over social justice, which solves not a single problem of ordinary people.....about all the money spent saving the planet from global warming rather than providing cheap, affordable energy.....about the policies promoting electric cars that suit almost no one who does not live in an urban environment.....about all the cheap labor the federal government allows to cross the border illegally, thereby depressing the wages of not civil servants but the kind of skilled laborers OA is clearly singing about.....etc... Government is not only not doing things to make the pursuit of happiness easier for ordinary people, it is actually making that pursuit more difficult, almost uniformly across the board.

Seriously. there is no greater evidence of socio-political pathology than elite society branding as a culture warrior anyone who quibbles with the progressive onslaught against cultural norms.

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OA doesn't mention social justice in a single one of his songs. That's textbook projection. His discontent is with a system that doesn't reward hard, honest work and a digital world that has increasingly automated human relationship and interaction out of the equation.

He may care about the cultural things you're talking about here, but you're putting words in his mouth that he has never said or sung.

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BREAKING: Oliver Anthony releases new 'Brink of War' song pic.twitter.com/bPvV6xxyOk

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 23, 2023

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This is a pretty good example of the co-opting I'm referring to in the post above.

This song is called "I want to go home," and it's not new. He released the original track in April.

This is a re-recording with better equipment of a song that has existed with its actual name for months. To throw this out with an alternative title and essentially steal OA's views on Twitter is really dishonest IMO.

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Honestly confused ... how do you get from the comment releases "new 'Brink of War' song" to "co-opting?" When you use that word, what do you mean? Is it possible you mean "celebrate?"

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Because "Brink of War" would suggest the song is an anti-war protest song, which it is not. Many on the right would like it to be based on their current position on Russia and Ukraine, but the song -- like most of OA's -- is about living in a world he doesn't quite recognize and doesn't particularly want to embrace. It mentions being on the brink of war once, and that is not a major theme.

Mistitling it to suggest otherwise -- and this wasn't an accident because a bunch of prominent right-wing Twitter users did it at the same time -- is just another example of trying to force OA's message to fit one's own agenda. It's happened a ton on both sides, and it does a disservice to the actual message in OA's music, videos and interviews, which is one of unity and against political division.

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Thanks - I
missed the obvious title change issue, so my bad. What you described above sounds a lot like many MAGA folks.

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There's a lot more in the song (i.e. the whole song) to appeal to conservatives than just a hi-jacked title....... B2Be captured it well there, in bold. At least a plurality of the country feels that way, and the sentiment is growing.

OA's work is essentially about the bewilderment of ordinary people lamenting the demise of a good culture, watching a constructive order that has served them well crumble under the combined weight of progressive assault and conservative neglect. OA is hardly alone in his critique, just more articulate, and perhaps most of all, timely. In less than a generation, most of what several generations were taught was good has somehow been morphed by pseudo-intellectuals into oppression. Worse, those north of Richmond, whom the middle class expected to stand up for them, ignored it all to pass the policies which have not benefited anyone much beyond the donor class. and now, middle class discontent about cancel culture is turning to outright fear as they watch political elites so casually abuse power to coerce thought and action, to include alleging sedition to suppress inconvenient narratives.

So whether OA wants his music to be political or not....it is.


OA can pretend to be centrist if he wishes, but his messaging has resonance that is clearly not identifiable with progressive sensibilities. It is the anthem of the disaffected.

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There are disaffected on both sides of the political aisle. OA's messaging resonates as much, if not more with those forgotten and left behind by an economic system and climate that favors the ultra rich over those making and keeping them rich as it does with those fighting conservative culture wars.

Like I said before, I honestly don't care what he (or anyone else) believes politically. I just don't like seeing people use his words to serve their own purposes. I think everyone should have the right to enjoy his music for whatever reason they want to. But when you start trying to use him and his words to push agendas they weren't intended to push, you do a disservice to him and his intended message.

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You were spot on until that part there in bold.

The people fighting the culture wars are all on the left. THEY started the fights over the definition of marriage and the definition of boys and girls and, etc.... creating a toxic environment of normaphobia which no one can escape. And when someone does speak out about the madness (as OA is clearly doing), they are defined as a culture warrior.

OA's discontent is about all the virtue posturing over social justice, which solves not a single problem of ordinary people.....about all the money spent saving the planet from global warming rather than providing cheap, affordable energy.....about the policies promoting electric cars that suit almost no one who does not live in an urban environment.....about all the cheap labor the federal government allows to cross the border illegally, thereby depressing the wages of not civil servants but the kind of skilled laborers OA is clearly singing about.....etc... Government is not only not doing things to make the pursuit of happiness easier for ordinary people, it is actually making that pursuit more difficult, almost uniformly across the board.

Seriously. there is no greater evidence of socio-political pathology than elite society branding as a culture warrior anyone who quibbles with the progressive onslaught against cultural norms.

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OA doesn't mention social justice in a single one of his songs. That's textbook projection. His discontent is with a system that doesn't reward hard, honest work and a digital world that has increasingly automated human relationship and interaction out of the equation.

He may care about the cultural things you're talking about here, but you're putting words in his mouth that he has never said or sung.

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But are you not doing the same thing? You have no notes from the artist that explain his work so you are basing your criticism completely upon your interpretation of the work. What makes your interpretation the correct one?

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BREAKING: Oliver Anthony releases new 'Brink of War' song pic.twitter.com/bPvV6xxyOk

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 23, 2023

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This is a pretty good example of the co-opting I'm referring to in the post above.

This song is called "I want to go home," and it's not new. He released the original track in April.

This is a re-recording with better equipment of a song that has existed with its actual name for months. To throw this out with an alternative title and essentially steal OA's views on Twitter is really dishonest IMO.

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Honestly confused ... how do you get from the comment releases "new 'Brink of War' song" to "co-opting?" When you use that word, what do you mean? Is it possible you mean "celebrate?"

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Because "Brink of War" would suggest the song is an anti-war protest song, which it is not. Many on the right would like it to be based on their current position on Russia and Ukraine, but the song -- like most of OA's -- is about living in a world he doesn't quite recognize and doesn't particularly want to embrace. It mentions being on the brink of war once, and that is not a major theme.

Mistitling it to suggest otherwise -- and this wasn't an accident because a bunch of prominent right-wing Twitter users did it at the same time -- is just another example of trying to force OA's message to fit one's own agenda. It's happened a ton on both sides, and it does a disservice to the actual message in OA's music, videos and interviews, which is one of unity and against political division.

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Thanks - I
missed the obvious title change issue, so my bad. What you described above sounds a lot like many MAGA folks.

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There's a lot more in the song (i.e. the whole song) to appeal to conservatives than just a hi-jacked title....... B2Be captured it well there, in bold. At least a plurality of the country feels that way, and the sentiment is growing.

OA's work is essentially about the bewilderment of ordinary people lamenting the demise of a good culture, watching a constructive order that has served them well crumble under the combined weight of progressive assault and conservative neglect. OA is hardly alone in his critique, just more articulate, and perhaps most of all, timely. In less than a generation, most of what several generations were taught was good has somehow been morphed by pseudo-intellectuals into oppression. Worse, those north of Richmond, whom the middle class expected to stand up for them, ignored it all to pass the policies which have not benefited anyone much beyond the donor class. and now, middle class discontent about cancel culture is turning to outright fear as they watch political elites so casually abuse power to coerce thought and action, to include alleging sedition to suppress inconvenient narratives.

So whether OA wants his music to be political or not....it is.


OA can pretend to be centrist if he wishes, but his messaging has resonance that is clearly not identifiable with progressive sensibilities. It is the anthem of the disaffected.

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There are disaffected on both sides of the political aisle. OA's messaging resonates as much, if not more with those forgotten and left behind by an economic system and climate that favors the ultra rich over those making and keeping them rich as it does with those fighting conservative culture wars.

Like I said before, I honestly don't care what he (or anyone else) believes politically. I just don't like seeing people use his words to serve their own purposes. I think everyone should have the right to enjoy his music for whatever reason they want to. But when you start trying to use him and his words to push agendas they weren't intended to push, you do a disservice to him and his intended message.

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You were spot on until that part there in bold.

The people fighting the culture wars are all on the left. THEY started the fights over the definition of marriage and the definition of boys and girls and, etc.... creating a toxic environment of normaphobia which no one can escape. And when someone does speak out about the madness (as OA is clearly doing), they are defined as a culture warrior.

OA's discontent is about all the virtue posturing over social justice, which solves not a single problem of ordinary people.....about all the money spent saving the planet from global warming rather than providing cheap, affordable energy.....about the policies promoting electric cars that suit almost no one who does not live in an urban environment.....about all the cheap labor the federal government allows to cross the border illegally, thereby depressing the wages of not civil servants but the kind of skilled laborers OA is clearly singing about.....etc... Government is not only not doing things to make the pursuit of happiness easier for ordinary people, it is actually making that pursuit more difficult, almost uniformly across the board.

Seriously. there is no greater evidence of socio-political pathology than elite society branding as a culture warrior anyone who quibbles with the progressive onslaught against cultural norms.

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OA doesn't mention social justice in a single one of his songs. That's textbook projection. His discontent is with a system that doesn't reward hard, honest work and a digital world that has increasingly automated human relationship and interaction out of the equation.

He may care about the cultural things you're talking about here, but you're putting words in his mouth that he has never said or sung.

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But are you not doing the same thing? You have no notes from the artist that explain his work so you are basing your criticism completely upon your interpretation of the work. What makes your interpretation the correct one?

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Exactly. Democrats stated in 2016 they were moving away from working class whites to focus on identity politics. Policies (and contentiousness) have flowed thusly. It's just not possible to connect OA's discontents to any of the primary Democrat agendas. He's plainly talking about class issues long identified as resonant with the Trump voter. But because a few anti-war conservatives did try to hi-Jack the "war" phrase beyond OA's clear intent, b2 is trying to stretch into a middle ground fallacy that OA's poetry has fully bi-partisan appeal.

Regardless of OA's intentions or politics, it would be impossible to write a better MAGA anthem than Rich Men. The next song is clearly of the same mind. The reference to war cannot be properly understood outside the context of elites fighting a war to solve problems abroad while so many problems go unaddressed at home

Noted culture warrior Santana getting all right wing.

Last night at a concert in New Jersey, rock legend Carlos Santana said “when God made you and me, before we came out of the womb, you know who you are and what you are… a woman is a woman and a man is a man.”
pic.twitter.com/zCZibZIkM2

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) August 24, 2023

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BREAKING: Oliver Anthony releases new 'Brink of War' song pic.twitter.com/bPvV6xxyOk

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 23, 2023

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This is a pretty good example of the co-opting I'm referring to in the post above.

This song is called "I want to go home," and it's not new. He released the original track in April.

This is a re-recording with better equipment of a song that has existed with its actual name for months. To throw this out with an alternative title and essentially steal OA's views on Twitter is really dishonest IMO.

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Honestly confused ... how do you get from the comment releases "new 'Brink of War' song" to "co-opting?" When you use that word, what do you mean? Is it possible you mean "celebrate?"

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Because "Brink of War" would suggest the song is an anti-war protest song, which it is not. Many on the right would like it to be based on their current position on Russia and Ukraine, but the song -- like most of OA's -- is about living in a world he doesn't quite recognize and doesn't particularly want to embrace. It mentions being on the brink of war once, and that is not a major theme.

Mistitling it to suggest otherwise -- and this wasn't an accident because a bunch of prominent right-wing Twitter users did it at the same time -- is just another example of trying to force OA's message to fit one's own agenda. It's happened a ton on both sides, and it does a disservice to the actual message in OA's music, videos and interviews, which is one of unity and against political division.

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Thanks - I
missed the obvious title change issue, so my bad. What you described above sounds a lot like many MAGA folks.

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There's a lot more in the song (i.e. the whole song) to appeal to conservatives than just a hi-jacked title....... B2Be captured it well there, in bold. At least a plurality of the country feels that way, and the sentiment is growing.

OA's work is essentially about the bewilderment of ordinary people lamenting the demise of a good culture, watching a constructive order that has served them well crumble under the combined weight of progressive assault and conservative neglect. OA is hardly alone in his critique, just more articulate, and perhaps most of all, timely. In less than a generation, most of what several generations were taught was good has somehow been morphed by pseudo-intellectuals into oppression. Worse, those north of Richmond, whom the middle class expected to stand up for them, ignored it all to pass the policies which have not benefited anyone much beyond the donor class. and now, middle class discontent about cancel culture is turning to outright fear as they watch political elites so casually abuse power to coerce thought and action, to include alleging sedition to suppress inconvenient narratives.

So whether OA wants his music to be political or not....it is.


OA can pretend to be centrist if he wishes, but his messaging has resonance that is clearly not identifiable with progressive sensibilities. It is the anthem of the disaffected.

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There are disaffected on both sides of the political aisle. OA's messaging resonates as much, if not more with those forgotten and left behind by an economic system and climate that favors the ultra rich over those making and keeping them rich as it does with those fighting conservative culture wars.

Like I said before, I honestly don't care what he (or anyone else) believes politically. I just don't like seeing people use his words to serve their own purposes. I think everyone should have the right to enjoy his music for whatever reason they want to. But when you start trying to use him and his words to push agendas they weren't intended to push, you do a disservice to him and his intended message.

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You were spot on until that part there in bold.

The people fighting the culture wars are all on the left. THEY started the fights over the definition of marriage and the definition of boys and girls and, etc.... creating a toxic environment of normaphobia which no one can escape. And when someone does speak out about the madness (as OA is clearly doing), they are defined as a culture warrior.

OA's discontent is about all the virtue posturing over social justice, which solves not a single problem of ordinary people.....about all the money spent saving the planet from global warming rather than providing cheap, affordable energy.....about the policies promoting electric cars that suit almost no one who does not live in an urban environment.....about all the cheap labor the federal government allows to cross the border illegally, thereby depressing the wages of not civil servants but the kind of skilled laborers OA is clearly singing about.....etc... Government is not only not doing things to make the pursuit of happiness easier for ordinary people, it is actually making that pursuit more difficult, almost uniformly across the board.

Seriously. there is no greater evidence of socio-political pathology than elite society branding as a culture warrior anyone who quibbles with the progressive onslaught against cultural norms.

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OA doesn't mention social justice in a single one of his songs. That's textbook projection. His discontent is with a system that doesn't reward hard, honest work and a digital world that has increasingly automated human relationship and interaction out of the equation.

He may care about the cultural things you're talking about here, but you're putting words in his mouth that he has never said or sung.

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But are you not doing the same thing? You have no notes from the artist that explain his work so you are basing your criticism completely upon your interpretation of the work. What makes your interpretation the correct one?

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We do have notes to explain some of his work. He's done videos and interviews that provide extra context. He's very much about rebuilding a sense of community and bridging silly political divisions.

He's said outright he's a political centrist, for one. And he's talked about finding commonalities with those who are different than us and has praised America's diversity. He doesn't belong in the MAGA box many on both sides are trying to put him in.

And just for the record, I think it's good that people -- MAGA folks included -- find hope and comfort in his songs. They just need to stop co-opting his words and songs for purposes and agendas they weren't intended to promote.

Oliver Anthony is sick of right-wing politicians, media & influencers using his song, especially at the debate: “This song isn’t about Biden … That song was written about the people on that stage. Not just them, but definitely them.”https://t.co/c9HHmhesap

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) August 25, 2023

"I do hate to see that song being weaponized. I see the Right trying to characterize me as one of their own and I see the Left trying to discredit me - I guess in retaliation."

He went on to say, "The one thing that bothers me is seeing people wrap politics up into this. It's aggravating seeing people on conservative news try to identify with me like I'm one of them. It's aggravating seeing certain musicians and politicians acting like we're buddies and acting like we're fighting the same struggle here - like we're trying to present the same message."

Anthony went on to say "it was funny seeing my song at the (Republican) presidential debate. Cause it's like - I wrote that song about those people. It was funny seeing the response to it. That song has nothing to do with Joe Biden, you know? That song was written about the people on that stage and a lot more too. Not just them, but definitely them."

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Oliver Anthony is sick of right-wing politicians, media & influencers using his song, especially at the debate: “This song isn’t about Biden … That song was written about the people on that stage. Not just them, but definitely them.”https://t.co/c9HHmhesap

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) August 25, 2023

"I do hate to see that song being weaponized. I see the Right trying to characterize me as one of their own and I see the Left trying to discredit me - I guess in retaliation."

He went on to say, "The one thing that bothers me is seeing people wrap politics up into this. It's aggravating seeing people on conservative news try to identify with me like I'm one of them. It's aggravating seeing certain musicians and politicians acting like we're buddies and acting like we're fighting the same struggle here - like we're trying to present the same message."

Anthony went on to say "it was funny seeing my song at the (Republican) presidential debate. Cause it's like - I wrote that song about those people. It was funny seeing the response to it. That song has nothing to do with Joe Biden, you know? That song was written about the people on that stage and a lot more too. Not just them, but definitely them."

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I love this guy. Just singing what he feels and telling the political shills to stop using his stuff to promote division. We need more like him.

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Oliver Anthony is sick of right-wing politicians, media & influencers using his song, especially at the debate: “This song isn’t about Biden … That song was written about the people on that stage. Not just them, but definitely them.”https://t.co/c9HHmhesap

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) August 25, 2023

"I do hate to see that song being weaponized. I see the Right trying to characterize me as one of their own and I see the Left trying to discredit me - I guess in retaliation."

He went on to say, "The one thing that bothers me is seeing people wrap politics up into this. It's aggravating seeing people on conservative news try to identify with me like I'm one of them. It's aggravating seeing certain musicians and politicians acting like we're buddies and acting like we're fighting the same struggle here - like we're trying to present the same message."

Anthony went on to say "it was funny seeing my song at the (Republican) presidential debate. Cause it's like - I wrote that song about those people. It was funny seeing the response to it. That song has nothing to do with Joe Biden, you know? That song was written about the people on that stage and a lot more too. Not just them, but definitely them."

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I love this guy. Just singing what he feels and telling the political shills to stop using his stuff to promote division. We need more like him.

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Refreshing to see someone not get sucked into to the bull*****

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BREAKING: Oliver Anthony releases new 'Brink of War' song pic.twitter.com/bPvV6xxyOk

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 23, 2023

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This is a pretty good example of the co-opting I'm referring to in the post above.

This song is called "I want to go home," and it's not new. He released the original track in April.

This is a re-recording with better equipment of a song that has existed with its actual name for months. To throw this out with an alternative title and essentially steal OA's views on Twitter is really dishonest IMO.

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Honestly confused ... how do you get from the comment releases "new 'Brink of War' song" to "co-opting?" When you use that word, what do you mean? Is it possible you mean "celebrate?"

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Because "Brink of War" would suggest the song is an anti-war protest song, which it is not. Many on the right would like it to be based on their current position on Russia and Ukraine, but the song -- like most of OA's -- is about living in a world he doesn't quite recognize and doesn't particularly want to embrace. It mentions being on the brink of war once, and that is not a major theme.

Mistitling it to suggest otherwise -- and this wasn't an accident because a bunch of prominent right-wing Twitter users did it at the same time -- is just another example of trying to force OA's message to fit one's own agenda. It's happened a ton on both sides, and it does a disservice to the actual message in OA's music, videos and interviews, which is one of unity and against political division.

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Thanks - I
missed the obvious title change issue, so my bad. What you described above sounds a lot like many MAGA folks.

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There's a lot more in the song (i.e. the whole song) to appeal to conservatives than just a hi-jacked title....... B2Be captured it well there, in bold. At least a plurality of the country feels that way, and the sentiment is growing.

OA's work is essentially about the bewilderment of ordinary people lamenting the demise of a good culture, watching a constructive order that has served them well crumble under the combined weight of progressive assault and conservative neglect. OA is hardly alone in his critique, just more articulate, and perhaps most of all, timely. In less than a generation, most of what several generations were taught was good has somehow been morphed by pseudo-intellectuals into oppression. Worse, those north of Richmond, whom the middle class expected to stand up for them, ignored it all to pass the policies which have not benefited anyone much beyond the donor class. and now, middle class discontent about cancel culture is turning to outright fear as they watch political elites so casually abuse power to coerce thought and action, to include alleging sedition to suppress inconvenient narratives.

So whether OA wants his music to be political or not....it is.


OA can pretend to be centrist if he wishes, but his messaging has resonance that is clearly not identifiable with progressive sensibilities. It is the anthem of the disaffected.

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There are disaffected on both sides of the political aisle. OA's messaging resonates as much, if not more with those forgotten and left behind by an economic system and climate that favors the ultra rich over those making and keeping them rich as it does with those fighting conservative culture wars.

Like I said before, I honestly don't care what he (or anyone else) believes politically. I just don't like seeing people use his words to serve their own purposes. I think everyone should have the right to enjoy his music for whatever reason they want to. But when you start trying to use him and his words to push agendas they weren't intended to push, you do a disservice to him and his intended message.

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You were spot on until that part there in bold.

The people fighting the culture wars are all on the left. THEY started the fights over the definition of marriage and the definition of boys and girls and, etc.... creating a toxic environment of normaphobia which no one can escape. And when someone does speak out about the madness (as OA is clearly doing), they are defined as a culture warrior.

OA's discontent is about all the virtue posturing over social justice, which solves not a single problem of ordinary people.....about all the money spent saving the planet from global warming rather than providing cheap, affordable energy.....about the policies promoting electric cars that suit almost no one who does not live in an urban environment.....about all the cheap labor the federal government allows to cross the border illegally, thereby depressing the wages of not civil servants but the kind of skilled laborers OA is clearly singing about.....etc... Government is not only not doing things to make the pursuit of happiness easier for ordinary people, it is actually making that pursuit more difficult, almost uniformly across the board.

Seriously. there is no greater evidence of socio-political pathology than elite society branding as a culture warrior anyone who quibbles with the progressive onslaught against cultural norms.

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Prescient post. We've always had different classes and divisions, but we had a reasonable unified national culture that helped unite us across classes. Not everywhere all the time, but often the rich and poor would go to the same church and stand beside one another and the Fourth of July parade and go to the Friday night football games.

The regressives obsession with the Culture War and transgressing every part of society has created a self-congratulatory elite "Zoom" class constantly condemning the values of the middle class that helped to build the country. Telling veterans they suck, men they are "toxic," white people they're inherently racist and evil, and your daughter should shower with a middle aged man is not really what middle and poor folks of any race want to hear - especially African Americans and Hispanics.

If the regressives were not so intolerant of diversity, it would behoove them to maybe talk to someone that does not look exactly like them.

Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?

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Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?

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Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.

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Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?

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Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.

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Equally, some of y'all immediately too offense to it because you felt like he was talking about "your guy". Maybe it's telling that deep down you know about your guy

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Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?

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Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.

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Equally, some of y'all immediately too offense to it because you felt like he was talking about "your guy". Maybe it's telling that deep down you know about your guy

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I don't have a guy. That's why I like Oliver Anthony so much. He hates politicians as much as I do, and recognizes the Hunger Games-like disdain the political elites on both sides have for the common, working man.

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Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?

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Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.

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Equally, some of y'all immediately too offense to it because you felt like he was talking about "your guy". Maybe it's telling that deep down you know about your guy

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I don't have a guy. That's why I like Oliver Anthony so much. He hates politicians as much as I do, and recognizes the Hunger Games-like disdain the political elites on both sides have for the common, working man.

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Do you think we can't read the over 14K posts you have on here? Who are you trying to convince that you are some sort of non-partisan amicus populi? Your protestations aren't some fake mustache that will hide your politics on a political forum. Good grief Linus.

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Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?

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Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.

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truth

It's about this BS...

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Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?

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Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.

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Equally, some of y'all immediately too offense to it because you felt like he was talking about "your guy". Maybe it's telling that deep down you know about your guy

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I don't have a guy. That's why I like Oliver Anthony so much. He hates politicians as much as I do, and recognizes the Hunger Games-like disdain the political elites on both sides have for the common, working man.

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Do you think we can't read the over 14K posts you have on here? Who are you trying to convince that you are some sort of non-partisan amicus populi? Your protestations aren't some fake mustache that will hide your politics on a political forum. Good grief Linus.

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Considering only about a fifth of my posts are on this particular board, which I hadn't posted on for more than a year before last week, you're off to a pretty bad start in characterizing my politics.

I'm a centrist through and through . I vote for the most pragmatic moderate candidate in every primary, regardless of party, and then I either write in that same candidate in the general or abstain from voting altogether in protest. I voted for Kasich in 2016, Buttigieg in 2020 and will likely vote for Haley in this election.

The candidates I could actually support never garner more than 10 or 15 percent of popular support in their parties, both of which can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Lord knows they've done a good job of dragging our country there already.

Jack Bauer said:

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It's about this BS...

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This just can't be for real.