For Real? Title IX Exemption For Sexual Harassment?

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Aliceinbubbleland
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Is this for real or just the latest embarrassment in an attempt to plead innocent while guilty?
Redbrickbear
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1. Did Baylor leadership do this? Well sure they are capable of anything.

2. If they did…the question is why?
Cobretti
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Cobretti
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Feds recognize Baylor's Title IX religious exemptions to LGBTQ protections

Livingstone Letter - Baylor University Religious Exemption Request
Aliceinbubbleland
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Livingstone just lost whatever little bit of friends she may have had in the Academic Community. Play the Jesus card so you can be excused if you discriminate.
Malbec
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Doesn't appear that the cases cited in the letter have anything whatsoever to do with "sexual harassment." Big surprise that REAP would try to frame it as such.
Adriacus Peratuun
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Why do folks that clearly hate what Baylor is based upon spend their time on Baylor sports boards?
Harrison Bergeron
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Gaystapo going to Gaystapo.
OntheRecord
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The point of the exemption is to protect the university--including many of its faculty and students--from someone filing a Title IX sexual harassment complaint because the university (or the student or faculty member) asserted a claim consonant with traditional Christian morality on sexual matters.

As the bar for what counts as "harassment" is lowered, and begins to include "trauma" from hearing so-called "hate speech," religious institutions that affirm more traditional understandings of sexuality need to start acting preemptively.

Remember 2 years ago the case of the adjunct English prof who said on twitter that she didn't want her daughter to be in the same restroom as a biological male? A group of woke students at Baylor proceeded to file several frivolous Title IX complaints, in addition to creating a petition to get the prof fired. Fortunately, the provost took a firm stance in favor of the prof's academic freedom. The students, unfortunately, were not punished for their blatant misuse of the Title IX process.

So, what President Livingstone is doing here is wise and prudent.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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There are two genders.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
ABC BEAR
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It seems that Ken Starr was right about Title IX overreach.
Aliceinbubbleland
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Adriacus Peratuun said:

Why do folks that clearly hate what Baylor is based upon spend their time on Baylor sports boards?
I do not hate Baylor. I strongly disagree with the BOD and Administration when they make a mockery of what is real Christian tolerance of everyone. I value my four years decades ago. We regularly sucked at all athletics, we're arguing over whether to desegregate the University and concerned about the academic calendar switch from tri-masters to fall and spring academic calendar. Tuition was heading towards $8.

I have lifelong friends from my years. Some have passed away now. As bad as we were in athletics we had an occasional good year.

90sBear
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

Why do folks that clearly hate what Baylor is based upon spend their time on Baylor sports boards?
I do not hate Baylor. I strongly disagree with the BOD and Administration when they make a mockery of what is real Christian tolerance of everyone. I value my four years decades ago. We regularly sucked at all athletics, we're arguing over whether to desegregate the University and concerned about the academic calendar switch from tri-masters to fall and spring academic calendar. Tuition was heading towards $8.

I have lifelong friends from my years. Some have passed away now. As bad as we were in athletics we had an occasional good year.


When you were at Baylor could a student potentially file a Title IX violation on a biology professor for stating that women are of the sex that can produce eggs and bear offspring and men are of the sex that produces sperm? Stating that there are two genders? Misgendering? Allowing a trans female to compete on a university women's team? Requesting a female roommate in a female dorm? Apply for scholarships designated for women?

These are all real potential issues facing universities today.

Edit: many women are beginning to feel that "tolerance" is beginning to swing too far and that now they are being told not to tolerate but rather accommodate men's demands once again just in a different form. Serious question - At what point does "tolerance" become "allow to be run over"?
Malbec
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90sBear said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

Why do folks that clearly hate what Baylor is based upon spend their time on Baylor sports boards?
I do not hate Baylor. I strongly disagree with the BOD and Administration when they make a mockery of what is real Christian tolerance of everyone. I value my four years decades ago. We regularly sucked at all athletics, we're arguing over whether to desegregate the University and concerned about the academic calendar switch from tri-masters to fall and spring academic calendar. Tuition was heading towards $8.

I have lifelong friends from my years. Some have passed away now. As bad as we were in athletics we had an occasional good year.


When you were at Baylor could a student potentially file a Title IX violation on a biology professor for stating that women are of the sex that can produce eggs and bear offspring and men are of the sex that produces sperm? Stating that there are two genders? Misgendering? Allowing a trans female to compete on a university women's team? Requesting a female roommate in a female dorm? Apply for scholarships designated for women?

These are all real potential issues facing universities today.
No, because T9 wasn't the law in 1950 and everybody not living in a mental institution already knew all those other things.
Adriacus Peratuun
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

Why do folks that clearly hate what Baylor is based upon spend their time on Baylor sports boards?
I do not hate Baylor. I strongly disagree with the BOD and Administration when they make a mockery of what is real Christian tolerance of everyone. I value my four years decades ago. We regularly sucked at all athletics, we're arguing over whether to desegregate the University and concerned about the academic calendar switch from tri-masters to fall and spring academic calendar. Tuition was heading towards $8.

I have lifelong friends from my years. Some have passed away now. As bad as we were in athletics we had an occasional good year.




Hate to break it to you, but disagreement on issues is not intolerance. In fact, spirited debate is the heart of all advanced education.

Tolerance does not require agreement. Additionally neither the law nor Christian teachings require tolerance. Every penal statute is an embodiment of intolerance. Every Christian tenet is an embodiment of intolerance. Folks are not required by law or faith to tolerate behavior with which they disagree. The law simply defines the permissible methods for intolerance.

Frank Galvin
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???

The Golden Rule, Judge not least you be judged, The Sermon on the Mount, the parable of the Good Samaritan, let whoever has not sinned throw the first stone.

All those strike me as tolerance. Christ never said we had to agree, but one can disagree and tolerate at the same time.
Adriacus Peratuun
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Frank Galvin said:



???

The Golden Rule, Judge not least you be judged, The Sermon on the Mount, the parable of the Good Samaritan, let whoever has not sinned throw the first stone.

All those strike me as tolerance. Christ never said we had to agree, but one can disagree and tolerate at the same time.


Jesus yielding a whip in the Temple

Hell

apparently Christian tolerance has limits.
Anhartancy
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I'm also scratching my head at how a religious exemption could possibly be used to permit sexual harassment. It's pretty astonishing that the Department of Education has granted this, assuming the facts are correct.

In any instance of harassment or abuse, it's essential to know that there are ways to fight back and protect oneself. digitalinvestigation.com, for instance, provides useful insights into how to combat various forms of online misconduct. It's disheartening that an institution would seemingly opt for an 'easy way out' instead of tackling the issue head-on.
Realitybites
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Jihad.

Its what the Rainbow Jihad does.
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