Is McCarthy a RINO? Should he be deposed?

Gaetz Says He Will Move to Oust McCarthy for Working With Democrats


Representative Matt Gaetz, the far-right Republican from Florida, said on Sunday that he would move this week to oust Speaker Kevin McCarthy from his leadership post, promising to follow through on weeks of threats to try removing him for working with Democrats to keep the government funded.

Mr. Gaetz's announcement came the day after Mr. McCarthy, in a stunning reversal, steered around Republican opposition to a stopgap spending plan and turned to Democrats to help him push legislation through the House to avert a shutdown. Mr. McCarthy, a California Republican, said he knew he was putting his speakership at risk by doing so, and dared his detractors to make a move against him.
In an interview on CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday, Mr. Gaetz, Mr. McCarthy's main tormentor, said he would do just that. He said he would soon bring up a measure called a "motion to vacate," which prompts a snap vote on whether to keep the speaker in his post.
"I think we need to rip off the Band-Aid," Mr. Gaetz said. "I think we need to move on with new leadership that can be trustworthy."

Though most House Republicans still support keeping Mr. McCarthy on as speaker, Mr. Gaetz's plans pose an existential threat to his tenure because of the slim majority the G.O.P. holds in the chamber. If Democrats were to vote against Mr. McCarthy as is almost always the case when a speaker of the opposing party is being elected Mr. Gaetz would need only a handful of Republicans to join the opposition to remove him from the post, which requires a simple majority vote.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/01/us/politics/mccarthy-speaker-gaetz.html

Which will happen first? Gates move to oust McCarthy or Republicans move to expel Gaetz for ethics violations?

Me? I think Gaetz will overplay his hand and be gone.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-gop-members-seek-expel-gaetz-renewed-threat-vacate-house-speaker-mccarthy

Osodecentx said:

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Is McCarthy a RINO? Should he be deposed?

Gaetz Says He Will Move to Oust McCarthy for Working With Democrats


Representative Matt Gaetz, the far-right Republican from Florida, said on Sunday that he would move this week to oust Speaker Kevin McCarthy from his leadership post, promising to follow through on weeks of threats to try removing him for working with Democrats to keep the government funded.

Mr. Gaetz's announcement came the day after Mr. McCarthy, in a stunning reversal, steered around Republican opposition to a stopgap spending plan and turned to Democrats to help him push legislation through the House to avert a shutdown. Mr. McCarthy, a California Republican, said he knew he was putting his speakership at risk by doing so, and dared his detractors to make a move against him.
In an interview on CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday, Mr. Gaetz, Mr. McCarthy's main tormentor, said he would do just that. He said he would soon bring up a measure called a "motion to vacate," which prompts a snap vote on whether to keep the speaker in his post.
"I think we need to rip off the Band-Aid," Mr. Gaetz said. "I think we need to move on with new leadership that can be trustworthy."

Though most House Republicans still support keeping Mr. McCarthy on as speaker, Mr. Gaetz's plans pose an existential threat to his tenure because of the slim majority the G.O.P. holds in the chamber. If Democrats were to vote against Mr. McCarthy as is almost always the case when a speaker of the opposing party is being elected Mr. Gaetz would need only a handful of Republicans to join the opposition to remove him from the post, which requires a simple majority vote.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/01/us/politics/mccarthy-speaker-gaetz.html

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Gaetz thinks he has more power than he does.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Is McCarthy a RINO? Should he be deposed?

Gaetz Says He Will Move to Oust McCarthy for Working With Democrats


Representative Matt Gaetz, the far-right Republican from Florida, said on Sunday that he would move this week to oust Speaker Kevin McCarthy from his leadership post, promising to follow through on weeks of threats to try removing him for working with Democrats to keep the government funded.

Mr. Gaetz's announcement came the day after Mr. McCarthy, in a stunning reversal, steered around Republican opposition to a stopgap spending plan and turned to Democrats to help him push legislation through the House to avert a shutdown. Mr. McCarthy, a California Republican, said he knew he was putting his speakership at risk by doing so, and dared his detractors to make a move against him.
In an interview on CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday, Mr. Gaetz, Mr. McCarthy's main tormentor, said he would do just that. He said he would soon bring up a measure called a "motion to vacate," which prompts a snap vote on whether to keep the speaker in his post.
"I think we need to rip off the Band-Aid," Mr. Gaetz said. "I think we need to move on with new leadership that can be trustworthy."

Though most House Republicans still support keeping Mr. McCarthy on as speaker, Mr. Gaetz's plans pose an existential threat to his tenure because of the slim majority the G.O.P. holds in the chamber. If Democrats were to vote against Mr. McCarthy as is almost always the case when a speaker of the opposing party is being elected Mr. Gaetz would need only a handful of Republicans to join the opposition to remove him from the post, which requires a simple majority vote.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/01/us/politics/mccarthy-speaker-gaetz.html

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Gaetz thinks he has more power than he does.

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Gaetz is a Republican version of AOC. He just loves the attention.

McCarthy has been a scumbag since his days in the young republicans. No republican from California should be anywhere near national party leadership.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Is McCarthy a RINO? Should he be deposed?

Gaetz Says He Will Move to Oust McCarthy for Working With Democrats


Representative Matt Gaetz, the far-right Republican from Florida, said on Sunday that he would move this week to oust Speaker Kevin McCarthy from his leadership post, promising to follow through on weeks of threats to try removing him for working with Democrats to keep the government funded.

Mr. Gaetz's announcement came the day after Mr. McCarthy, in a stunning reversal, steered around Republican opposition to a stopgap spending plan and turned to Democrats to help him push legislation through the House to avert a shutdown. Mr. McCarthy, a California Republican, said he knew he was putting his speakership at risk by doing so, and dared his detractors to make a move against him.
In an interview on CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday, Mr. Gaetz, Mr. McCarthy's main tormentor, said he would do just that. He said he would soon bring up a measure called a "motion to vacate," which prompts a snap vote on whether to keep the speaker in his post.
"I think we need to rip off the Band-Aid," Mr. Gaetz said. "I think we need to move on with new leadership that can be trustworthy."

Though most House Republicans still support keeping Mr. McCarthy on as speaker, Mr. Gaetz's plans pose an existential threat to his tenure because of the slim majority the G.O.P. holds in the chamber. If Democrats were to vote against Mr. McCarthy as is almost always the case when a speaker of the opposing party is being elected Mr. Gaetz would need only a handful of Republicans to join the opposition to remove him from the post, which requires a simple majority vote.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/01/us/politics/mccarthy-speaker-gaetz.html

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Gaetz thinks he has more power than he does.

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Gaetz is a Republican version of AOC. He just loves the attention.

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AOC understands how much powder she has and my bet is you'd do AOC if you could but not Gaetz.

Gaetz is more Cori Bush

Mitch Blood Green said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Is McCarthy a RINO? Should he be deposed?

Gaetz Says He Will Move to Oust McCarthy for Working With Democrats


Representative Matt Gaetz, the far-right Republican from Florida, said on Sunday that he would move this week to oust Speaker Kevin McCarthy from his leadership post, promising to follow through on weeks of threats to try removing him for working with Democrats to keep the government funded.

Mr. Gaetz's announcement came the day after Mr. McCarthy, in a stunning reversal, steered around Republican opposition to a stopgap spending plan and turned to Democrats to help him push legislation through the House to avert a shutdown. Mr. McCarthy, a California Republican, said he knew he was putting his speakership at risk by doing so, and dared his detractors to make a move against him.
In an interview on CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday, Mr. Gaetz, Mr. McCarthy's main tormentor, said he would do just that. He said he would soon bring up a measure called a "motion to vacate," which prompts a snap vote on whether to keep the speaker in his post.
"I think we need to rip off the Band-Aid," Mr. Gaetz said. "I think we need to move on with new leadership that can be trustworthy."

Though most House Republicans still support keeping Mr. McCarthy on as speaker, Mr. Gaetz's plans pose an existential threat to his tenure because of the slim majority the G.O.P. holds in the chamber. If Democrats were to vote against Mr. McCarthy as is almost always the case when a speaker of the opposing party is being elected Mr. Gaetz would need only a handful of Republicans to join the opposition to remove him from the post, which requires a simple majority vote.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/01/us/politics/mccarthy-speaker-gaetz.html

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Gaetz thinks he has more power than he does.

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Gaetz is a Republican version of AOC. He just loves the attention.

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AOC understands how much powder she has and my bet is you'd do AOC if you could but not Gaetz.

Gaetz is more Cori Bush

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Point taken but isn't Gaetz the one that understands powder?

ron.reagan said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Is McCarthy a RINO? Should he be deposed?

Gaetz Says He Will Move to Oust McCarthy for Working With Democrats


Representative Matt Gaetz, the far-right Republican from Florida, said on Sunday that he would move this week to oust Speaker Kevin McCarthy from his leadership post, promising to follow through on weeks of threats to try removing him for working with Democrats to keep the government funded.

Mr. Gaetz's announcement came the day after Mr. McCarthy, in a stunning reversal, steered around Republican opposition to a stopgap spending plan and turned to Democrats to help him push legislation through the House to avert a shutdown. Mr. McCarthy, a California Republican, said he knew he was putting his speakership at risk by doing so, and dared his detractors to make a move against him.
In an interview on CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday, Mr. Gaetz, Mr. McCarthy's main tormentor, said he would do just that. He said he would soon bring up a measure called a "motion to vacate," which prompts a snap vote on whether to keep the speaker in his post.
"I think we need to rip off the Band-Aid," Mr. Gaetz said. "I think we need to move on with new leadership that can be trustworthy."

Though most House Republicans still support keeping Mr. McCarthy on as speaker, Mr. Gaetz's plans pose an existential threat to his tenure because of the slim majority the G.O.P. holds in the chamber. If Democrats were to vote against Mr. McCarthy as is almost always the case when a speaker of the opposing party is being elected Mr. Gaetz would need only a handful of Republicans to join the opposition to remove him from the post, which requires a simple majority vote.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/01/us/politics/mccarthy-speaker-gaetz.html

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Gaetz thinks he has more power than he does.

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Gaetz is a Republican version of AOC. He just loves the attention.

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AOC understands how much powder she has and my bet is you'd do AOC if you could but not Gaetz.

Gaetz is more Cori Bush

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Point taken but isn't Gaetz the one that understands powder?

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I would not be shocked at all to learn that Matt powders his nose!

Realitybites said:

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McCarthy has been a scumbag since his days in the young republicans. No republican from California should be anywhere near national party leadership.

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This.

He's a neocon unipartyist.

Doc Holliday said:

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Realitybites said:

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McCarthy has been a scumbag since his days in the young republicans. No republican from California should be anywhere near national party leadership.

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This.

He's a neocon unipartyist.

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Do you want him out as Speaker? Who should take his place?

Osodecentx said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Realitybites said:

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McCarthy has been a scumbag since his days in the young republicans. No republican from California should be anywhere near national party leadership.

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This.

He's a neocon unipartyist.

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Do you want him out as Speaker? Who should take his place?

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Yes I want him out, not sure who I want to replace him.

I want a good 80% of the GOP gone for good.

Doc Holliday said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Realitybites said:

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McCarthy has been a scumbag since his days in the young republicans. No republican from California should be anywhere near national party leadership.

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This.

He's a neocon unipartyist.

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Do you want him out as Speaker? Who should take his place?

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Yes I want him out, not sure who I want to replace him.

I want a good 80% of the GOP gone for good.

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I'll put you as leaning Jeffries

Osodecentx said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Realitybites said:

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McCarthy has been a scumbag since his days in the young republicans. No republican from California should be anywhere near national party leadership.

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This.

He's a neocon unipartyist.

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Do you want him out as Speaker? Who should take his place?

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Byron Donalds and if you dont like it then you're a racist.

Gaetz needs to take a powder

Doc Holliday said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Realitybites said:

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McCarthy has been a scumbag since his days in the young republicans. No republican from California should be anywhere near national party leadership.

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This.

He's a neocon unipartyist.

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Do you want him out as Speaker? Who should take his place?

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Yes I want him out, not sure who I want to replace him.

I want a good 80% of the GOP gone for good.

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So, you are pro-Gaetz? Or do you want him gone too?

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Gaetz needs to take a powder

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You need to take a hike

The Republicans need to focus on getting a complete budget in place before the 45 days are up, and the temp budget expires. The in fighting must stop.

I believe that Trump contributes to the infighting by his encouragement to shut down the government. He is tearing the Republican Party to pieces.

Guy Noir said:

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The Republicans need to focus on getting a complete budget in place before the 45 days are up, and the temp budget expires. The in fighting must stop.

I believe that Trump contributes to the infighting by his encouragement to shut down the government. He is tearing the Republican Party to pieces.

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Hopefully this happens. I'm not sure what purpose the republican party serves bc it doesnt serve its voters. It really only serves Israel and military contractors. The sooner we can have a party that actually serves the people of America the better.

Guy Noir said:

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The Republicans need to focus on getting a complete budget in place before the 45 days are up, and the temp budget expires. The in fighting must stop.

I believe that Trump contributes to the infighting by his encouragement to shut down the government. He is tearing the Republican Party to pieces.

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But they don't fight. Establishment GOP bends the knee to democrats. If they come to an agreement with dems...we lose.

Doc Holliday said:

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Guy Noir said:

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The Republicans need to focus on getting a complete budget in place before the 45 days are up, and the temp budget expires. The in fighting must stop.

I believe that Trump contributes to the infighting by his encouragement to shut down the government. He is tearing the Republican Party to pieces.

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But they don't fight. Establishment GOP bends the knee to democrats. If they come to an agreement with dems...we lose.

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Nobody is happy so democracy is working great

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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ron.reagan said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Is McCarthy a RINO? Should he be deposed?

Gaetz Says He Will Move to Oust McCarthy for Working With Democrats


Representative Matt Gaetz, the far-right Republican from Florida, said on Sunday that he would move this week to oust Speaker Kevin McCarthy from his leadership post, promising to follow through on weeks of threats to try removing him for working with Democrats to keep the government funded.

Mr. Gaetz's announcement came the day after Mr. McCarthy, in a stunning reversal, steered around Republican opposition to a stopgap spending plan and turned to Democrats to help him push legislation through the House to avert a shutdown. Mr. McCarthy, a California Republican, said he knew he was putting his speakership at risk by doing so, and dared his detractors to make a move against him.
In an interview on CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday, Mr. Gaetz, Mr. McCarthy's main tormentor, said he would do just that. He said he would soon bring up a measure called a "motion to vacate," which prompts a snap vote on whether to keep the speaker in his post.
"I think we need to rip off the Band-Aid," Mr. Gaetz said. "I think we need to move on with new leadership that can be trustworthy."

Though most House Republicans still support keeping Mr. McCarthy on as speaker, Mr. Gaetz's plans pose an existential threat to his tenure because of the slim majority the G.O.P. holds in the chamber. If Democrats were to vote against Mr. McCarthy as is almost always the case when a speaker of the opposing party is being elected Mr. Gaetz would need only a handful of Republicans to join the opposition to remove him from the post, which requires a simple majority vote.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/01/us/politics/mccarthy-speaker-gaetz.html

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Gaetz thinks he has more power than he does.

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Gaetz is a Republican version of AOC. He just loves the attention.

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AOC understands how much powder she has and my bet is you'd do AOC if you could but not Gaetz.

Gaetz is more Cori Bush

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Point taken but isn't Gaetz the one that understands powder?

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I would not be shocked at all to learn that Matt powders his nose!

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My bet is he understands beards.

ron.reagan said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Guy Noir said:

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The Republicans need to focus on getting a complete budget in place before the 45 days are up, and the temp budget expires. The in fighting must stop.

I believe that Trump contributes to the infighting by his encouragement to shut down the government. He is tearing the Republican Party to pieces.

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But they don't fight. Establishment GOP bends the knee to democrats. If they come to an agreement with dems...we lose.

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Nobody is happy so democracy is working great

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Nobody is happy when elected officials behave like kleptocrats.

muddybrazos said:

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Guy Noir said:

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The Republicans need to focus on getting a complete budget in place before the 45 days are up, and the temp budget expires. The in fighting must stop.

I believe that Trump contributes to the infighting by his encouragement to shut down the government. He is tearing the Republican Party to pieces.

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Hopefully this happens. I'm not sure what purpose the republican party serves bc it doesnt serve its voters. It really only serves Israel and military contractors. The sooner we can have a party that actually serves the people of America the better.

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and the top 10%

What's the plan to replace him? Scalise ? He has cancer. Is he up for it?

Mitch Blood Green said:

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What's the plan to replace him? Scalise ? He has cancer. Is he up for it?

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Probably Tom Emmer

muddybrazos said:

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Guy Noir said:

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The Republicans need to focus on getting a complete budget in place before the 45 days are up, and the temp budget expires. The in fighting must stop.

I believe that Trump contributes to the infighting by his encouragement to shut down the government. He is tearing the Republican Party to pieces.

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Hopefully this happens. I'm not sure what purpose the republican party serves bc it doesnt serve its voters.

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In all truth the Republican party exists to serve the needs/desires of its Donor base...not its voter base.

They serve big business/the wealthy and not the average conservative White guy in Lufkin making $55K a year.

Its why the Republican party will never actual stop mass 3rd world immigration...because the donor base is enriched by bringing in massive numbers of semi-slave labor from the rest of the 3rd world.

So vast numbers of Republican voters want to stop the illegal immigration completely....and cut legal immigration down to more reasonable numbers...but it never happens.

This is just one of many major issues that the Donor base vs the Voter base defines the GOP...and the Donor base always wins out among GOP leadership in Congress.

Redbrickbear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Guy Noir said:

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The Republicans need to focus on getting a complete budget in place before the 45 days are up, and the temp budget expires. The in fighting must stop.

I believe that Trump contributes to the infighting by his encouragement to shut down the government. He is tearing the Republican Party to pieces.

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Hopefully this happens. I'm not sure what purpose the republican party serves bc it doesnt serve its voters.

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In all truth the Republican party exists to serve the needs/desires of its Donor base...not its voter base.

They serve big business/the wealthy and not the average conservative White guy in Lufkin making $55K a year.

Its why the Republican party will never actual stop mass 3rd world immigration...because the donor base is enriched by bringing in massive numbers of semi-slave labor from the rest of the 3rd world.

So vast numbers of Republican voters want to stop the illegal immigration completely....and cut legal immigration down to more reasonable numbers...but it never happens.

This is just one of many major issues that the Donor base vs the Voter base defines the GOP...and the Donor base always wins out among GOP leadership in Congress.

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Every Party does that. Come on, name one that doesn't pander to the donor base?

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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What's the plan to replace him? Scalise ? He has cancer. Is he up for it?

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Probably Tom Emmer

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I'll look him up. I don't know him.

Rawhide said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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What's the plan to replace him? Scalise ? He has cancer. Is he up for it?

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Probably Tom Emmer

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This is not going to be successful. No way Gaetz gets 218.

As for Scalisce, I'm wishing that guy well. He's had some crap hands dealt to him recently. Get well, Congressman.

Motion to table the motion to vacate the chair fails.

Next up is the motion to vacate

FLBear5630 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Guy Noir said:

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The Republicans need to focus on getting a complete budget in place before the 45 days are up, and the temp budget expires. The in fighting must stop.

I believe that Trump contributes to the infighting by his encouragement to shut down the government. He is tearing the Republican Party to pieces.

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Hopefully this happens. I'm not sure what purpose the republican party serves bc it doesnt serve its voters.

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In all truth the Republican party exists to serve the needs/desires of its Donor base...not its voter base.

They serve big business/the wealthy and not the average conservative White guy in Lufkin making $55K a year.

Its why the Republican party will never actual stop mass 3rd world immigration...because the donor base is enriched by bringing in massive numbers of semi-slave labor from the rest of the 3rd world.

So vast numbers of Republican voters want to stop the illegal immigration completely....and cut legal immigration down to more reasonable numbers...but it never happens.

This is just one of many major issues that the Donor base vs the Voter base defines the GOP...and the Donor base always wins out among GOP leadership in Congress.

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Every Party does that. Come on, name one that doesn't pander to the donor base?

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In a two party system? Oh yes both do...that is the main problem.

All parties pander to their Donors....but at least some parties have less of a gap between Donor and Voter

In a multi-party systems (say like in Europe or Israel) where there are many parties in government and those parties can live on smaller $ donors then those donors tend to be their actual voters.

The gap between donor and regular voter is far less.

For instance I imagine that the United Torah Judaism party represents its voters in Israel better than the Republican party represents Christian conservatives in the USA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Torah_Judaism

And that the Die Grnen party in German (The Greens) represents is voters in Germany better than the Democrats represent the interests of leftists and environmentalist in the USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_90/The_Greens

Eli Crane Blasts GOP Leadership for Siding with Democrats

[State of the Union: "Republicans had a chance to deal a massive blow to the status quo and failed," Rep. Eli Crane tells The American Conservative.

Last night, Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida filed a motion to vacate the chair against House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, hot on the heels of the Speaker striking a deal with Democrats to keep the government open until November 17.

"I have enough Republicans where at this point next week, one of two things will happen: Kevin McCarthy won't be the speaker of the House or he'll be the speaker of the House working at the pleasure of the Democrats," Gaetz told members of the media after filing the motion. One of Gaetz's allies in the effort to oust McCarthy is freshman Rep. Eli Crane of Arizona. When Gaetz previously announced a motion to vacate was incoming, Crane quote tweeted the announcement and said "Let's roll!"

The American Conservative reached out to Crane to ask his thought about the continuing resolution passed under McCarthy's leadership. "The passage of yet another CR is a sad reminder that the Uniparty will always circle the wagons at the expense of We the People," Crane says via email...]


https://www.theamericanconservative.com/eli-crane-blasts-gop-leadership-for-siding-with-democrats/

Going to be awhile before these clowns win anything again. JFC