Backlash from Pro-Hamas statements

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Osodecentx
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I feel we need a thread to post the backlash from the pro-Hamas statements made by some.

N.Y.U. Law Student Sends Anti-Israel Message and Loses a Job Offer
The controversy is the latest sign of the deep divide on campuses over the Hamas attack that killed more than 1,000 people.
A law firm's job offer to a New York University law student was rescinded on Tuesday for what the firm described as "inflammatory comments" about Hamas's attack that killed at least 1,200 Israelis. And at Harvard, student groups began to take back their signatures on a letter that blamed Israel for the violence.

The actions were part of a wave of fallout on campuses for students, who are deeply polarized over the fighting.
At N.Y.U., Ryna Workman, the president of the university's Student Bar Association, wrote in a message to the group on Tuesday that "Israel bears full responsibility for this tremendous loss of life."
"This regime of state-sanctioned violence created the conditions that made resistance necessary," Mx. Workman wrote in the Student Bar Association bulletin. "I will not condemn Palestinian resistance."

By evening, the law firm, Winston & Strawn, said the comments "profoundly conflict" with its values and without naming the student, said it rescinded its offer of employment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/11/us/nyu-law-harvard-hamas-israel.html



KaiBear
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Within tens of millions of people one will always encounter the few oddballs.

Unfortunately social media gives each of them a platform with which to draw attention to themselves..

Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues, the news media gets bored with the slaughter of Israelis, and the number of civilian casualties in Gaza increases.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
KaiBear
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.

muddybrazos
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KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.


Thats surprising bc I would thought that Israel would be number one. They control both of our political parties and you cant get elected president without going to touch the wall.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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muddybrazos said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.


Thats surprising bc I would thought that Israel would be number one. They control both of our political parties and you cant get elected president without going to touch the wall.
Sounds like you must love you some Squad.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
muddybrazos
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

muddybrazos said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.


Thats surprising bc I would thought that Israel would be number one. They control both of our political parties and you cant get elected president without going to touch the wall.
Sounds like you must love you some Squad.
Youve had some awful takes lately. I dont support Israel or Palesitne and wish that America focus on our own problems which are numerous.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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muddybrazos said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

muddybrazos said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.


Thats surprising bc I would thought that Israel would be number one. They control both of our political parties and you cant get elected president without going to touch the wall.
Sounds like you must love you some Squad.
Youve had some awful takes lately. I dont support Israel or Palesitne and wish that America focus on our own problems which are numerous.
So please tell me, muddy. Which of my takes do you have a problem with? Look forward to your response.

Agree with you that we just stay out of Israel's way and let them handle things. Anything Biden or his band of idiots touch either dies or turns to s h i t.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
KaiBear
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muddybrazos said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

muddybrazos said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.


Thats surprising bc I would thought that Israel would be number one. They control both of our political parties and you cant get elected president without going to touch the wall.
Sounds like you must love you some Squad.
Youve had some awful takes lately. I dont support Israel or Palesitne and wish that America focus on our own problems which are numerous.


Hamas killed over 20 Americans and has kidnapped at least as many.

it is a US problem .

Don't like the way all this has unfolded. Reminds me too much on we constantly get dragged into foreign wars.

But at this point we have no choice.

It's all in or all out.

And we no longer have the option of all out .

The incredibly bungled Afghanistan evacuation sent a message to our enemies throughout the world .

A message of weakness.

So here we are .
muddybrazos
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

muddybrazos said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

muddybrazos said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.


Thats surprising bc I would thought that Israel would be number one. They control both of our political parties and you cant get elected president without going to touch the wall.
Sounds like you must love you some Squad.
Youve had some awful takes lately. I dont support Israel or Palesitne and wish that America focus on our own problems which are numerous.
So please tell me, muddy. Which of my takes do you have a problem with? Look forward to your response.

Agree with you that we just stay out of Israel's way and let them handle things. Anything Biden or his band of idiots touch either dies or turns to s h i t.
I thought i saw you calling for Israel to basically murder all Palestinians in response to this recent attack. I may have misread your posts but I definitely dont support killing innocent people just bc some terrorists did horrible things and happen to be Palestinian.
Osodecentx
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Trying to get thread back on the rails:

At Harvard, a Battle Over What Should Be Said About the Hamas Attacks
After a student group blamed Israel for the violence, Lawrence Summers, a former university president, condemned the leadership for not speaking up.

Within a few days of the George Floyd killing and Russia's war against Ukraine, Harvard and other universities issued statements, claiming solidarity with the victims.

Immediately after the Hamas attacks in Israel in which assailants killed women and children Harvard was quiet even as criticism mounted over an open letter from a student coalition.

The letter, from Harvard Palestine Solidarity Groups, said it held "the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence."

The backlash to that letter turned Harvard's silence into a roar.

On Monday, Lawrence H. Summers, the former Treasury secretary and former Harvard president, condemned the university's leadership, for not denouncing the pro-Palestinian letter.

"In nearly 50 years of @Harvard affiliation, I have never been as disillusioned and alienated as I am today," he wrote on X, formerly Twitter. Harvard's silence, coupled with the student coalition letter, he said, "has allowed Harvard to appear at best neutral towards acts of terror against the Jewish state of Israel."

On Monday night, and again with more force on Tuesday, Harvard spoke. Its president, Claudine Gay, issued two statements, ultimately condemning "the terrorist atrocities perpetrated by Hamas" as "abhorrent." A spokesman said Dr. Gay was not available for comment.

Dr. Summers said in an interview that he could understand the case for university neutrality in political disputes, but that Harvard had forfeited that prerogative by speaking out on many other issues.

"When you fly the Ukrainian flag over Harvard yard, when you issue clear, vivid and strong statements in response to the George Floyd killing," he said, "you have decided not to pursue a policy of neutrality."

The Harvard student letter said, "For the last two decades, millions of Palestinians in Gaza have been forced to live in an open-air prison," and concluded that as the war unfolded, "the apartheid regime is the only one to blame." It was signed by groups including Amnesty International at Harvard, the Harvard Kennedy School Palestine Caucus and the Harvard Divinity School Muslim Association.

Several student groups that signed the solidarity statement did not respond to messages. By Tuesday afternoon, organizers concealed the coalition's groups, citing safety.

In her response on Tuesday, Dr. Gay said that "while our students have the right to speak for themselves, no student group not even 30 student groups speaks for Harvard University or its leadership."

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/10/us/harvard-israel-gaza-hamas-reaction.html?searchResultPosition=1



RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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muddybrazos said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

muddybrazos said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

muddybrazos said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.


Thats surprising bc I would thought that Israel would be number one. They control both of our political parties and you cant get elected president without going to touch the wall.
Sounds like you must love you some Squad.
Youve had some awful takes lately. I dont support Israel or Palesitne and wish that America focus on our own problems which are numerous.
So please tell me, muddy. Which of my takes do you have a problem with? Look forward to your response.

Agree with you that we just stay out of Israel's way and let them handle things. Anything Biden or his band of idiots touch either dies or turns to s h i t.
I thought i saw you calling for Israel to basically murder all Palestinians in response to this recent attack. I may have misread your posts but I definitely dont support killing innocent people just bc some terrorists did horrible things and happen to be Palestinian.

Thank you for your sincere response, muddy.

70 percent of Palestinians voted for their Hamas leadership. Elections have consequences. Palestinians have been given time to either leave Gaza or die. Their choice. And I don't care to hear the tearful waaaa.....waaaa....waaaa they are poor and have no means to leave and nowhere to go garbage. If you have a brain and don't want to die, you will leave. In exterminating the cockroaches, some innocent people will die. More hostages are going to die. This is all out war at this point and there are no gray lines. This applies to those in Palestine and those in the United States. Pick a side. Good or evil.

Hamas needs to become extinct. Sooner than later.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
Mitch Blood Green
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KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.

Criticism of the Israeli government is in bounds. It's crazy to call that criticism antisemitism. It's also crazy to punish all Palestinians. Sucks for those people. They are getting screwed by Hamas, Israel and us.

Having said that, Hamas crossed a line over the weekend that the punishment has to be so egregious that they will never do that again.
Osodecentx
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Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.

Criticism of the Israeli government is in bounds. It's crazy to call that criticism antisemitism. It's also crazy to punish all Palestinians. Sucks for those people. They are getting screwed by Hamas, Israel and us.
Will the Palestinians in Gaza release the hostages taken by Hamas?
Mitch Blood Green
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Osodecentx said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.

Criticism of the Israeli government is in bounds. It's crazy to call that criticism antisemitism. It's also crazy to punish all Palestinians. Sucks for those people. They are getting screwed by Hamas, Israel and us.
Will the Palestinians in Gaza release the hostages taken by Hamas?

The Palestinians in Gaza don't have the hostages. Hamas has them. They live under that tyranny.
Osodecentx
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From WSJ:

Bill Ackman Doesn't Want to Hire Harvard Students Who Blamed Israel
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Bill Ackman and other business leaders said they never want to hire the Harvard University students who signed a statement saying they "hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence."
Ackman, a hedge-fund manager, and senior executives such as Jonathan Neman, CEO of Sweetgreen, said on social media that they want to see a list of the signees. About 30 student organizations issued the joint statement over the weekend calling Israel an "apartheid regime" and saying Palestinians have been forced to "live in a state of death."
Osodecentx
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Osodecentx said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.

Criticism of the Israeli government is in bounds. It's crazy to call that criticism antisemitism. It's also crazy to punish all Palestinians. Sucks for those people. They are getting screwed by Hamas, Israel and us.
Will the Palestinians in Gaza release the hostages taken by Hamas?

The Palestinians in Gaza don't have the hostages. Hamas has them. They live under that tyranny.
Are the hostages in Gaza?
Osodecentx
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Meanwhile, companies, which have a long history of scouring job candidates' online personas for racist and other red-flag comments, have in recent days shown an unwillingness to put up with sentiment casting blame toward Israel.
Bill Ackman, a prominent hedge-fund manager, said Tuesday on social-media platform X that CEOs have been asking for the names of students involved with the organizations who signed the letter that circulated around Harvard to ensure "that none of us inadvertently hire any of their members." Other CEOs, including Jonathan Neman of Sweetgreen, said online that he also wanted to know, so that he wouldn't hire them.
Ackman, who has given roughly $50 million to Harvard over the years, said he has since heard from more executives, other significant Harvard donors and parents of Harvard students thanking him for speaking out.
"When you're hiring someone, among the issues that are critically important are their character, their judgments and how they care about their fellow human beings. If they support terrorists, I don't know what company would want them," he said in an interview. Ackman, who has long been active on X, formerly known as Twitter, said his tweet was his most-liked ever.
https://www.wsj.com/us-news/israel-hamas-attack-us-backlash-ff5f25e8?mod=us-news_lead_pos2

KaiBear
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Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.


Bull

Blacks have been openly slandering and attacking individual Jews for several years now.

Hamas clearly started this nightmare. There can be zero debate on what they have done.

Worse, Hamas uses their own civilians as body shields. Have done so for a long time.

Let Eqypt, Syria and other Muslim countries provide refuge for these civilians trapped by Hamas in the Gaza Strip. BUT THEY WON'T.

As they do not want a repeat of the nightmare of what happened in Jordan years ago when the PLO mixed in with refugees challenged the government for control of the country.
ATL Bear
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Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.

Criticism of the Israeli government is in bounds. It's crazy to call that criticism antisemitism. It's also crazy to punish all Palestinians. Sucks for those people. They are getting screwed by Hamas, Israel and us.

Having said that, Hamas crossed a line over the weekend that the punishment has to be so egregious that they will never do that again.
Let's first start with the premise that what Hamas did and what/how Israel managed the Gaza situation in general isn't comparable.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Osodecentx said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.

Criticism of the Israeli government is in bounds. It's crazy to call that criticism antisemitism. It's also crazy to punish all Palestinians. Sucks for those people. They are getting screwed by Hamas, Israel and us.
Will the Palestinians in Gaza release the hostages taken by Hamas?

The Palestinians in Gaza don't have the hostages. Hamas has them. They live under that tyranny.
Elections have consequences.
Osodecentx
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ATL Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Osodecentx said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.

Criticism of the Israeli government is in bounds. It's crazy to call that criticism antisemitism. It's also crazy to punish all Palestinians. Sucks for those people. They are getting screwed by Hamas, Israel and us.
Will the Palestinians in Gaza release the hostages taken by Hamas?

The Palestinians in Gaza don't have the hostages. Hamas has them. They live under that tyranny.
Elections have consequences.
Last election was 2006 (I think)
ATL Bear
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Osodecentx said:

ATL Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Osodecentx said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.

Criticism of the Israeli government is in bounds. It's crazy to call that criticism antisemitism. It's also crazy to punish all Palestinians. Sucks for those people. They are getting screwed by Hamas, Israel and us.
Will the Palestinians in Gaza release the hostages taken by Hamas?

The Palestinians in Gaza don't have the hostages. Hamas has them. They live under that tyranny.
Elections have consequences.
Last election was 2006 (I think)
Exactly. Guess who they put into power?
Osodecentx
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ATL Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ATL Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Osodecentx said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.

Criticism of the Israeli government is in bounds. It's crazy to call that criticism antisemitism. It's also crazy to punish all Palestinians. Sucks for those people. They are getting screwed by Hamas, Israel and us.
Will the Palestinians in Gaza release the hostages taken by Hamas?

The Palestinians in Gaza don't have the hostages. Hamas has them. They live under that tyranny.
Elections have consequences.
Last election was 2006 (I think)
Exactly. Guess who they put into power?
Yep.

Hamas won 2006 parliamentary elections elections and in 2007 violently seized control of the Gaza Strip from the Palestinian Authority.
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ATL Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Osodecentx said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.

Criticism of the Israeli government is in bounds. It's crazy to call that criticism antisemitism. It's also crazy to punish all Palestinians. Sucks for those people. They are getting screwed by Hamas, Israel and us.
Will the Palestinians in Gaza release the hostages taken by Hamas?

The Palestinians in Gaza don't have the hostages. Hamas has them. They live under that tyranny.
Elections have consequences.


That wasn't an election. It's was more test against the laws of physics. Vote Hamas or see if you can fly from the 10th floor. Maybe that's their fault.

Ukrainians are teaching us sometimes you have to fight for your freedom.
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KaiBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.


Bull

Blacks have been openly slandering and attacking individual Jews for several years now.

Hamas clearly started this nightmare. There can be zero debate on what they have done.

Worse, Hamas uses their own civilians as body shields. Have done so for a long time.

Let Eqypt, Syria and other Muslim countries provide refuge for these civilians trapped by Hamas in the Gaza Strip. BUT THEY WON'T.

As they do not want a repeat of the nightmare of what happened in Jordan years ago when the PLO mixed in with refugees challenged the government for control of the country.


Bull on you. Whites have been openly slandering Jews since longer than my lineage.

There are some whoppers in the last 80 years we can point to.

Even making such an idiotic post makes me feel dirty. But for sure, I can support the statement.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.


Bull

Blacks have been openly slandering and attacking individual Jews for several years now.

Hamas clearly started this nightmare. There can be zero debate on what they have done.

Worse, Hamas uses their own civilians as body shields. Have done so for a long time.

Let Eqypt, Syria and other Muslim countries provide refuge for these civilians trapped by Hamas in the Gaza Strip. BUT THEY WON'T.

As they do not want a repeat of the nightmare of what happened in Jordan years ago when the PLO mixed in with refugees challenged the government for control of the country.


Bull on you. Whites have been openly slandering Jews since longer than my lineage.

There are some whoppers in the last 80 years we can point to.

Even making such an idiotic post makes me feel dirty. But for sure, I can support the statement.

"There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community."
Yes there is.
"Nuh uh, black people don't hate on Jews because white people disparaged Jews in the past!"

What? There is no reasoning in that defense of the claim of the black community hating Jews.

From 2021
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/07/1003872848/the-complicated-history-behind-blms-solidarity-with-the-pro-palestinian-movement


From this week;
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/blm-supports-murderous-palestinian-hamas/ar-AA1i3SmH
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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From Ben Sasse, President of the University of Florida. This is the wy to do it.
Quote:

Dear Jewish Gator Alums,
Many of you have reached out about the vigil at UF last night. I was overwhelmed to see a thousand Gators standing with Israel. You can find my remarks here.
The chaos at the event was an unfortunate end to a beautiful gathering, but I wanted to let you know that there was no attack on campus and the injuries that have been reported seem to be relatively minor. From what we can gather, a student passed out and, when a fellow student called for 911, other students understandably on edge fled.
While we all wish the night had ended differently, we are tremendously proud of the students who came to stand with Israel. I hope Rabbi Jonah and Rabbi Berl reschedule the vigil, and I hope the community reconvenes.
Like you, I am tremendously grateful for our students. The University of Florida is home to the largest number of Jewish students at any university in this country. We are honored by and committed to that legacy. Our Jewish students and alumni around the world have been devastated by Hamas' terrorism.
I will not tiptoe around this simple fact: What Hamas did is evil and there is no defense for terrorism. This shouldn't be hard. Sadly, too many people in elite academia have been so weakened by their moral confusion that, when they see videos of raped women, hear of a beheaded baby, or learn of a grandmother murdered in her home, the first reaction of some is to "provide context" and try to blame the raped women, beheaded baby, or the murdered grandmother. In other grotesque cases, they express simple support for the terrorists.
This thinking isn't just wrong, it's sickening. It's dehumanizing. It is beneath people called to educate our next generation of Americans. I am thankful to say I haven't seen examples of that here at UF, either from our faculty or our student body.
As for us, our educational mission here begins with the recognition and explicit acknowledgment of human dignity the same human dignity that Hamas' terrorists openly scorn. Every single human life matters. We are committed to that truth. We will tell that truth.
In the coming days, it is possible that anti-Israel protests will come to UF's campus. I have told our police chief and administration that this university always has two foundational commitments: We will protect our students and we will protect speech. This is always true: Our Constitution protects the rights of people to make abject idiots of themselves.
But I also want to be clear about this: We will protect our Jewish students from violence. If anti- Israel protests come, we will absolutely be ready to act if anyone dares to escalate beyond peaceful protest. Speech is protected violence and vandalism are not.
I'm grateful to have heard from so many of you. Like I said at the vigil last night: When evil raises its head, as it has in recent days, it is up to men and women of conscience and courage to draw strength from truth and commit ourselves to the work of building something better to the work of pursuing justice and pursuing peace. That is what we aim to do through education, compassion, and truth here at the University of Florida.
Sincerely, Ben

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Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.


Bull

Blacks have been openly slandering and attacking individual Jews for several years now.

Hamas clearly started this nightmare. There can be zero debate on what they have done.

Worse, Hamas uses their own civilians as body shields. Have done so for a long time.

Let Eqypt, Syria and other Muslim countries provide refuge for these civilians trapped by Hamas in the Gaza Strip. BUT THEY WON'T.

As they do not want a repeat of the nightmare of what happened in Jordan years ago when the PLO mixed in with refugees challenged the government for control of the country.


Bull on you. Whites have been openly slandering Jews since longer than my lineage.

There are some whoppers in the last 80 years we can point to.

Even making such an idiotic post makes me feel dirty. But for sure, I can support the statement.


You are certainly an interesting character.

Blacks have attacked many Jews in recent years.

Routinely slandered them .

Was mentioned right here on this forum a long while back.

Yes there are some current Jew haters on this board.

Have never understood such things . I just chalk it off to envy.

Now prior to this terrorist attack I thought it time to stop billions in aid to Israel along with aid to other countries .

But not now.
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muddybrazos said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.


Thats surprising bc I would thought that Israel would be number one. They control both of our political parties and you cant get elected president without going to touch the wall.
Now that's a racist anti-Jewish trope.
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Harrison Bergeron
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Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.

Criticism of the Israeli government is in bounds. It's crazy to call that criticism antisemitism. It's also crazy to punish all Palestinians. Sucks for those people. They are getting screwed by Hamas, Israel and us.

Having said that, Hamas crossed a line over the weekend that the punishment has to be so egregious that they will never do that again.
Is this post serious?

Do you not recall Jesse Jackson's "Hymetown?"

Do you not recall Al Sharpton launching his career with terrorist attacks against Jews?

Jews are second to Asians in black-launched hate crimes.

LWNJs cry "anti-Semitism" about criticisms of the policy of a George Soros backed DAs, so pretty sure criticizing the Israeli government is in line with this standard.
KaiBear
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.

Criticism of the Israeli government is in bounds. It's crazy to call that criticism antisemitism. It's also crazy to punish all Palestinians. Sucks for those people. They are getting screwed by Hamas, Israel and us.

Having said that, Hamas crossed a line over the weekend that the punishment has to be so egregious that they will never do that again.
Is this post serious?

Do you not recall Jesse Jackson's "Hymetown?"

Do you not recall Al Sharpton launching his career with terrorist attacks against Jews?

Jews are second to Asians in black-launched hate crimes.

LWNJs cry "anti-Semitism" about criticisms of the policy of a George Soros backed DAs, so pretty sure criticizing the Israeli government is in line with this standard.
Biden has earned Mitch's vote.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.

Criticism of the Israeli government is in bounds. It's crazy to call that criticism antisemitism. It's also crazy to punish all Palestinians. Sucks for those people. They are getting screwed by Hamas, Israel and us.

Having said that, Hamas crossed a line over the weekend that the punishment has to be so egregious that they will never do that again.
Is this post serious?

Do you not recall Jesse Jackson's "Hymetown?"

Do you not recall Al Sharpton launching his career with terrorist attacks against Jews?

Jews are second to Asians in black-launched hate crimes.

LWNJs cry "anti-Semitism" about criticisms of the policy of a George Soros backed DAs, so pretty sure criticizing the Israeli government is in line with this standard.
Actually, Bergeron, you guys are being very unfair. Blacks #1 target BY FAR is other blacks. And nobody cares. Especially the Biden loving blacks.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
KaiBear
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:



Hopefully the Biden administration will not waiver as this war continues
Good luck with that. For the last three years, this administration has folded like a $5 beach chair. I am not expecting anything to change.


Only the Chinese have bought more of our congressional leadership than the Israelis.

And decades of such 'investments' are going to pay dividends for Israel now.

But for how long, maybe 2-4 months.

Then the media will be looking for a fresh angle in their war coverage. One far more sympathetic to the Hamas cause. Especially with all the dead Israelis civilians long buried.

Plus, don't underestimate the latent anti Jewish sentiment found in our black community.




There's no anti Jewish sentiment in the black community. What Israel has done in Gaza is atrocious. Clear human rights violations that we should not support.

That doesn't mean what Hamas has done is acceptable. It, too is atrocious and unacceptable.

Criticism of the Israeli government is in bounds. It's crazy to call that criticism antisemitism. It's also crazy to punish all Palestinians. Sucks for those people. They are getting screwed by Hamas, Israel and us.

Having said that, Hamas crossed a line over the weekend that the punishment has to be so egregious that they will never do that again.
Is this post serious?

Do you not recall Jesse Jackson's "Hymetown?"

Do you not recall Al Sharpton launching his career with terrorist attacks against Jews?

Jews are second to Asians in black-launched hate crimes.

LWNJs cry "anti-Semitism" about criticisms of the policy of a George Soros backed DAs, so pretty sure criticizing the Israeli government is in line with this standard.
Actually, Bergeron, you guys are being very unfair. Blacks #1 target BY FAR is other blacks. And nobody cares. Especially the Biden loving blacks.
True

So Jews are 'only' 3rd on the hate list.

Lucky
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