Nayib Bukele & El Salvador

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Redbrickbear said:


Dude took out the trash.
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Redbrickbear said:


Dude took out the trash.


You ain't kidding…



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Nayib! You nube! You don't have to explain.

If there is one spanish word every english speaker knows besides cerveza, it's biblioteca.

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I've been watching his reforms in El Salvador with a lot of interest. Much of Central America isn't in a very good place right now. I wonder to what degree the reforms he has instituted there can stick.
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He obviously is a racist.
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It's going to be the next Costa Rica but richer. I kinda want to get a beach place there.
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[Nayib Bukele is turning El Salvador into a Central American Singapore, forcing tough questions on some theoretical priors

"Until recently, criminal gangs controlled huge portions of this small Central American country of 6.3 million, terrorizing locals. A study by the central bank and the UN Development Programme in 2016 estimated that extortion payments added up to 3 percent of GDP, and the total annual cost of gang violence, including the lost income of people deterred from working or investing, was a staggering 16 percent of GDP," the Economist reported.

Bukele sorted it out. "More than 72,000 people have been arrested under a state of emergency Bukele requested in March 2022 after a surge in gang violence. The special powers that Congress granted Bukele suspended some fundamental rights such as access to a lawyer and being told the reason for one's arrest," AP reports.
The result, a striking transformation. El Salvador is no longer the murder capital of Latin America, and Bukele is now by far the most powerful and revered leader in the continent. "Today, I come to tell you that that debate is over," Bukele was quoted by AP. "The decisions we took were correct. We are no longer the world death capital and we achieved it in record time. Today we are a model of security and no one can doubt it. There are the results. They are irrefutable."
Now, he has posted a video of the new national library that would put most Western countries to shame. With compulsory child education programs, Bukele, who claims to be the Platonic "Philosopher King" in his twitter handle, is now focussing on infrastructure and development.

Which brings us to a fundamental question. What is the purpose of government?

Lee Kuan Yew, perhaps the last true "Philosopher King" politician, once posed this question to the people in his book on democracy. He said that, in a multi-ethnic and modern state, you can ultimately have order or democracy. You cannot have simultaneously the fullest forms of both. The purpose of democracy is basically giving choice to those who share the same understanding of society and a similar ethos and cultural priors. Democracy is not possible in a society that doesn't share those, and too much freedom and rights in such a scenario leads to chaos and disorder, which in turn necessitates the rise of someone to reestablish order..]

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/a-latin-american-lee-kuan-yew/
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He said that, in a multi-ethnic and modern state.

I'm curious what he means by "modern state".

The longest lived Christian empire in the history of the world was a multi-ethnic, mono-cultural entity.
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Realitybites said:



The longest lived Christian empire in the history of the world was a multi-ethnic, mono-cultural entity.
The Empire of Elm Mott?
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Realitybites said:

He said that, in a multi-ethnic and modern state.

I'm curious what he means by "modern state".

The longest lived Christian empire in the history of the world was a multi-ethnic, mono-cultural entity.


Lee Kuan Yew?

Yea I'm not exactly sure what he meant by "modern state"

I would take a guess and say a post World War I nation state… but that is just a guess

Guy was super successful with Singapore…but he was a little authoritarian.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/first-prime-minister-singapore-lee-kuan-yew-dies-91





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Redbrickbear said:

[Nayib Bukele is turning El Salvador into a Central American Singapore, forcing tough questions on some theoretical priors

"Until recently, criminal gangs controlled huge portions of this small Central American country of 6.3 million, terrorizing locals. A study by the central bank and the UN Development Programme in 2016 estimated that extortion payments added up to 3 percent of GDP, and the total annual cost of gang violence, including the lost income of people deterred from working or investing, was a staggering 16 percent of GDP," the Economist reported.

Bukele sorted it out. "More than 72,000 people have been arrested under a state of emergency Bukele requested in March 2022 after a surge in gang violence. The special powers that Congress granted Bukele suspended some fundamental rights such as access to a lawyer and being told the reason for one's arrest," AP reports.
The result, a striking transformation. El Salvador is no longer the murder capital of Latin America, and Bukele is now by far the most powerful and revered leader in the continent. "Today, I come to tell you that that debate is over," Bukele was quoted by AP. "The decisions we took were correct. We are no longer the world death capital and we achieved it in record time. Today we are a model of security and no one can doubt it. There are the results. They are irrefutable."
Now, he has posted a video of the new national library that would put most Western countries to shame. With compulsory child education programs, Bukele, who claims to be the Platonic "Philosopher King" in his twitter handle, is now focussing on infrastructure and development.

Which brings us to a fundamental question. What is the purpose of government?

Lee Kuan Yew, perhaps the last true "Philosopher King" politician, once posed this question to the people in his book on democracy. He said that, in a multi-ethnic and modern state, you can ultimately have order or democracy. You cannot have simultaneously the fullest forms of both. The purpose of democracy is basically giving choice to those who share the same understanding of society and a similar ethos and cultural priors. Democracy is not possible in a society that doesn't share those, and too much freedom and rights in such a scenario leads to chaos and disorder, which in turn necessitates the rise of someone to reestablish order..]

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/a-latin-american-lee-kuan-yew/
That last paragraph is spot on.
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I fear that this is true. And we the people have allowed it to happen by being unwilling to force real change in the two parties. If we really are determined to keep a two party system, we better start pushing up new candidates all over the country now. Otherwise, there will be a complete collapse of confidence and a splintering of parties from the two eventually.
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How long before El Salvadorans flee America's increasingly third-world like cities in a desperate attempt to make it back to San Salvador or San Miguel?

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Redbrickbear said:

Lee Kuan Yew, perhaps the last true "Philosopher King" politician, once posed this question to the people in his book on democracy. He said that, in a multi-ethnic and modern state, you can ultimately have order or democracy. You cannot have simultaneously the fullest forms of both. The purpose of democracy is basically giving choice to those who share the same understanding of society and a similar ethos and cultural priors. Democracy is not possible in a society that doesn't share those, and too much freedom and rights in such a scenario leads to chaos and disorder, which in turn necessitates the rise of someone to reestablish order..]

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/a-latin-american-lee-kuan-yew/

The longest lived Christian empire in history was a multi-ethnic state. The issue we have in America today isn't its multi-ethnicity. It's the multi-culturalism. Any multi-cultural state is inherently unstable and at risk from tribalism.
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This guy really is radical



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Murder rate in El Salvador is a third that of the US. That tells you just how dangerous the left's open borders and mass release of prisoners have made the country.
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ya basta!

- el KKM
Go Bears!
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