What a load of chit! NYC trying to force Mr. Chicken to open on Sunday. When in the hell is that anyones business, but Chick Filet. I'm not of fan of Chick Filet, not their religiosity, but I can't find any thing that is decent there. However, how in the he'll thinks the govt has the right to tell a private business, how to run their business? this is just disgusting . Hell, I might join the soccer moms and patron CF as a protest.

It is all about control and the Progressive Left flexing their muscles, - especially against Christians. They forced businesses to close during Covid. I guess they figure they can force businesses to stay open post pandemic.

The City of San Antonio spent over $300,000 to prevent Chick Fil A from opening a location at the San Antonio Airport back in 2020. https://www.newsweek.com/chick-fil-san-antonio-airport-legal-battle-1483056

The Left's Jihad continues. Their first goal is to eliminate the Jews and the Christians are next.

Merry Christmas everyone.

The regressive left is obsessed with Culture Wars and division. It will not stop until it has destroyed everything.

I'm not a fan of Chick Fil A's food, but I admire and support its practice of closing Sundays. If this case was an example of New York trying to force CFA to open Sundays, I'd be outraged and on the Lindsey Graham charge.

But that's not what is going on here.

The State of New York has expressways/tollways with VERY limited on/off ramps. My state (Kansas) has a similar one running through it. A chunk of I-35 from the southern state line to Emporia plus a road number I can't remember from Emporia to the western KCK suburbs. I'd guess that most of you have driven it. 'Bout 220 miles total. There are seven total places to get gas/food that you can access without exiting the turnpike. Each of those places has one fast food restaurant, so the restaurant is a mini-monopoly of sorts. The turnpike authority takes bids every so often from franchises, and in order to have its bid considered, a prospective franchise has to agree to certain terms. One of those is to be open seven days a week. (They do allow exceptions for things like today.)

It's done this way because of the limited nature of food choices travelers have. It's certainly not a back-of-the-hand to religious groups. CFA doesn't want to open Sundays, just find a spot off of the tollway. I'm surprised New York hasn't had this requirement all along. I don't see the outrage given the circumstances.

But you guys be you.

fubar said:

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I'm not a fan of Chick Fil A's food, but I admire and support its practice of closing Sundays. If this case was an example of New York trying to force CFA to open Sundays, I'd be outraged and on the Lindsey Graham charge.

But that's not what is going on here.

The State of New York has expressways/tollways with VERY limited on/off ramps. My state (Kansas) has a similar one running through it. A chunk of I-35 from the southern state line to Emporia plus a road number I can't remember from Emporia to the western KCK suburbs. I'd guess that most of you have driven it. 'Bout 220 miles total. There are seven total places to get gas/food that you can access without exiting the turnpike. Each of those places has one fast food restaurant, so the restaurant is a mini-monopoly of sorts. The turnpike authority takes bids every so often from franchises, and in order to have its bid considered, a prospective franchise has to agree to certain terms. One of those is to be open seven days a week. (They do allow exceptions for things like today.)

It's done this way because of the limited nature of food choices travelers have. It's certainly not a back-of-the-hand to religious groups. CFA doesn't want to open Sundays, just find a spot off of the tollway. I'm surprised New York hasn't had this requirement all along. I don't see the outrage given the circumstances.

But you guys be you.

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LOL

First rate twisting.


Merry Christmas sir.

fubar said:

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I'm not a fan of Chick Fil A's food, but I admire and support its practice of closing Sundays. If this case was an example of New York trying to force CFA to open Sundays, I'd be outraged and on the Lindsey Graham charge.

But that's not what is going on here.

The State of New York has expressways/tollways with VERY limited on/off ramps. My state (Kansas) has a similar one running through it. A chunk of I-35 from the southern state line to Emporia plus a road number I can't remember from Emporia to the western KCK suburbs. I'd guess that most of you have driven it. 'Bout 220 miles total. There are seven total places to get gas/food that you can access without exiting the turnpike. Each of those places has one fast food restaurant, so the restaurant is a mini-monopoly of sorts. The turnpike authority takes bids every so often from franchises, and in order to have its bid considered, a prospective franchise has to agree to certain terms. One of those is to be open seven days a week. (They do allow exceptions for things like today.)

It's done this way because of the limited nature of food choices travelers have. It's certainly not a back-of-the-hand to religious groups. CFA doesn't want to open Sundays, just find a spot off of the tollway. I'm surprised New York hasn't had this requirement all along. I don't see the outrage given the circumstances.

But you guys be you.

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I guess they want that contract to be a living, breathing document?

fubar said:

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I'm not a fan of Chick Fil A's food, but I admire and support its practice of closing Sundays. If this case was an example of New York trying to force CFA to open Sundays, I'd be outraged and on the Lindsey Graham charge.

But that's not what is going on here.

The State of New York has expressways/tollways with VERY limited on/off ramps. My state (Kansas) has a similar one running through it. A chunk of I-35 from the southern state line to Emporia plus a road number I can't remember from Emporia to the western KCK suburbs. I'd guess that most of you have driven it. 'Bout 220 miles total. There are seven total places to get gas/food that you can access without exiting the turnpike. Each of those places has one fast food restaurant, so the restaurant is a mini-monopoly of sorts. The turnpike authority takes bids every so often from franchises, and in order to have its bid considered, a prospective franchise has to agree to certain terms. One of those is to be open seven days a week. (They do allow exceptions for things like today.)

It's done this way because of the limited nature of food choices travelers have. It's certainly not a back-of-the-hand to religious groups. CFA doesn't want to open Sundays, just find a spot off of the tollway. I'm surprised New York hasn't had this requirement all along. I don't see the outrage given the circumstances.

But you guys be you.

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So they already have dozens of Chick-Fil-A locations operating in the tollway system, but this time it's different. Oookay. Well I'm sure it's just about traveler convenience…

ATL Bear said:

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fubar said:

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I'm not a fan of Chick Fil A's food, but I admire and support its practice of closing Sundays. If this case was an example of New York trying to force CFA to open Sundays, I'd be outraged and on the Lindsey Graham charge.

But that's not what is going on here.

The State of New York has expressways/tollways with VERY limited on/off ramps. My state (Kansas) has a similar one running through it. A chunk of I-35 from the southern state line to Emporia plus a road number I can't remember from Emporia to the western KCK suburbs. I'd guess that most of you have driven it. 'Bout 220 miles total. There are seven total places to get gas/food that you can access without exiting the turnpike. Each of those places has one fast food restaurant, so the restaurant is a mini-monopoly of sorts. The turnpike authority takes bids every so often from franchises, and in order to have its bid considered, a prospective franchise has to agree to certain terms. One of those is to be open seven days a week. (They do allow exceptions for things like today.)

It's done this way because of the limited nature of food choices travelers have. It's certainly not a back-of-the-hand to religious groups. CFA doesn't want to open Sundays, just find a spot off of the tollway. I'm surprised New York hasn't had this requirement all along. I don't see the outrage given the circumstances.

But you guys be you.

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So they already have dozens of Chick-Fil-A locations operating in the tollway system, but this time it's different. Oookay. Well I'm sure it's just about traveler convenience…

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as a traveler who hates finding closed food/gas places, I get it. Ever got off a flight at 9pm and every single thing in the air port was closed? How about getting to air port for 6am flight to find nothing open and cant take anything thru security?

Traveling has alot of suck to it.

On the flip side, I am sure they are happy to stick it to chick fil A whenever they can..

ATL Bear said:

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fubar said:

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I'm not a fan of Chick Fil A's food, but I admire and support its practice of closing Sundays. If this case was an example of New York trying to force CFA to open Sundays, I'd be outraged and on the Lindsey Graham charge.

But that's not what is going on here.

The State of New York has expressways/tollways with VERY limited on/off ramps. My state (Kansas) has a similar one running through it. A chunk of I-35 from the southern state line to Emporia plus a road number I can't remember from Emporia to the western KCK suburbs. I'd guess that most of you have driven it. 'Bout 220 miles total. There are seven total places to get gas/food that you can access without exiting the turnpike. Each of those places has one fast food restaurant, so the restaurant is a mini-monopoly of sorts. The turnpike authority takes bids every so often from franchises, and in order to have its bid considered, a prospective franchise has to agree to certain terms. One of those is to be open seven days a week. (They do allow exceptions for things like today.)

It's done this way because of the limited nature of food choices travelers have. It's certainly not a back-of-the-hand to religious groups. CFA doesn't want to open Sundays, just find a spot off of the tollway. I'm surprised New York hasn't had this requirement all along. I don't see the outrage given the circumstances.

But you guys be you.

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So they already have dozens of Chick-Fil-A locations operating in the tollway system, but this time it's different. Oookay. Well I'm sure it's just about traveler convenience…

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Like I said, I'm surprised that opening seven days/week hasn't been a requirement all along. It has been in my neck of the woods. If individual CFA franchisee's are getting the shaft with a change in the contract, well, that definitely sucks.

But I don't see the battle that the Culture War Combatants seem to see here. So I'll sit this one out. Feel free to jump in. Senator Graham needs you!

fubar said:

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ATL Bear said:

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fubar said:

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I'm not a fan of Chick Fil A's food, but I admire and support its practice of closing Sundays. If this case was an example of New York trying to force CFA to open Sundays, I'd be outraged and on the Lindsey Graham charge.

But that's not what is going on here.

The State of New York has expressways/tollways with VERY limited on/off ramps. My state (Kansas) has a similar one running through it. A chunk of I-35 from the southern state line to Emporia plus a road number I can't remember from Emporia to the western KCK suburbs. I'd guess that most of you have driven it. 'Bout 220 miles total. There are seven total places to get gas/food that you can access without exiting the turnpike. Each of those places has one fast food restaurant, so the restaurant is a mini-monopoly of sorts. The turnpike authority takes bids every so often from franchises, and in order to have its bid considered, a prospective franchise has to agree to certain terms. One of those is to be open seven days a week. (They do allow exceptions for things like today.)

It's done this way because of the limited nature of food choices travelers have. It's certainly not a back-of-the-hand to religious groups. CFA doesn't want to open Sundays, just find a spot off of the tollway. I'm surprised New York hasn't had this requirement all along. I don't see the outrage given the circumstances.

But you guys be you.

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So they already have dozens of Chick-Fil-A locations operating in the tollway system, but this time it's different. Oookay. Well I'm sure it's just about traveler convenience…

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Like I said, I'm surprised that opening seven days/week hasn't been a requirement all along. It has been in my neck of the woods. If individual CFA franchisee's are getting the shaft with a change in the contract, well, that definitely sucks.

But I don't see the battle that the Culture War Combatants seem to see here. So I'll sit this one out. Feel free to jump in. Senator Graham needs you!

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Probably because the absence of a specialty food service one day a week isn't an actual traveler inconvenience. If they provided gas maybe it would make sense.

I'm just glad I live in the South and if I want a chicken biscuit on Sunday I can go to Bojangles or I can go to Publix and get a whole box of fried chicken.

4th and Inches said:

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ATL Bear said:

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fubar said:

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I'm not a fan of Chick Fil A's food, but I admire and support its practice of closing Sundays. If this case was an example of New York trying to force CFA to open Sundays, I'd be outraged and on the Lindsey Graham charge.

But that's not what is going on here.

The State of New York has expressways/tollways with VERY limited on/off ramps. My state (Kansas) has a similar one running through it. A chunk of I-35 from the southern state line to Emporia plus a road number I can't remember from Emporia to the western KCK suburbs. I'd guess that most of you have driven it. 'Bout 220 miles total. There are seven total places to get gas/food that you can access without exiting the turnpike. Each of those places has one fast food restaurant, so the restaurant is a mini-monopoly of sorts. The turnpike authority takes bids every so often from franchises, and in order to have its bid considered, a prospective franchise has to agree to certain terms. One of those is to be open seven days a week. (They do allow exceptions for things like today.)

It's done this way because of the limited nature of food choices travelers have. It's certainly not a back-of-the-hand to religious groups. CFA doesn't want to open Sundays, just find a spot off of the tollway. I'm surprised New York hasn't had this requirement all along. I don't see the outrage given the circumstances.

But you guys be you.

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So they already have dozens of Chick-Fil-A locations operating in the tollway system, but this time it's different. Oookay. Well I'm sure it's just about traveler convenience…

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as a traveler who hates finding closed food/gas places, I get it. Ever got off a flight at 9pm and every single thing in the air port was closed? How about getting to air port for 6am flight to find nothing open and cant take anything thru security?

Traveling has alot of suck to it.

On the flip side, I am sure they are happy to stick it to chick fil A whenever they can..

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I fly to many places where there's nothing available at 12:30pm on a Tuesday. Just a curious change when it didn't matter before. If there were public complaints related to the lack of food during a specific period on Sundays (no one is 24/7) then maybe it would make sense. Perhaps there are and I'm just not aware.

muddybrazos said:

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I'm just glad I live in the South and if I want a chicken biscuit on Sunday I can go to Bojangles or I can go to Publix and get a whole box of fried chicken.

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Imagine the market place fulfilling a need. What a concept?

ATL Bear said:

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fubar said:

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ATL Bear said:

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fubar said:

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I'm not a fan of Chick Fil A's food, but I admire and support its practice of closing Sundays. If this case was an example of New York trying to force CFA to open Sundays, I'd be outraged and on the Lindsey Graham charge.

But that's not what is going on here.

The State of New York has expressways/tollways with VERY limited on/off ramps. My state (Kansas) has a similar one running through it. A chunk of I-35 from the southern state line to Emporia plus a road number I can't remember from Emporia to the western KCK suburbs. I'd guess that most of you have driven it. 'Bout 220 miles total. There are seven total places to get gas/food that you can access without exiting the turnpike. Each of those places has one fast food restaurant, so the restaurant is a mini-monopoly of sorts. The turnpike authority takes bids every so often from franchises, and in order to have its bid considered, a prospective franchise has to agree to certain terms. One of those is to be open seven days a week. (They do allow exceptions for things like today.)

It's done this way because of the limited nature of food choices travelers have. It's certainly not a back-of-the-hand to religious groups. CFA doesn't want to open Sundays, just find a spot off of the tollway. I'm surprised New York hasn't had this requirement all along. I don't see the outrage given the circumstances.

But you guys be you.

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So they already have dozens of Chick-Fil-A locations operating in the tollway system, but this time it's different. Oookay. Well I'm sure it's just about traveler convenience…

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Like I said, I'm surprised that opening seven days/week hasn't been a requirement all along. It has been in my neck of the woods. If individual CFA franchisee's are getting the shaft with a change in the contract, well, that definitely sucks.

But I don't see the battle that the Culture War Combatants seem to see here. So I'll sit this one out. Feel free to jump in. Senator Graham needs you!

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Probably because the absence of a specialty food service one day a week isn't an actual traveler inconvenience. If they provided gas maybe it would make sense.

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It's the absence of ANY food that is the problem.

But what the hey. Those silly people should just travel when it's convenient for entities like CFA.

I don't know where you people travel, but I travel a lot, domestic and international. Finding food and or gasoline has never, ever been a problem. Go to WAWA, /7/11 or the like and knock yourself out.

ATL Bear said:

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4th and Inches said:

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ATL Bear said:

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fubar said:

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I'm not a fan of Chick Fil A's food, but I admire and support its practice of closing Sundays. If this case was an example of New York trying to force CFA to open Sundays, I'd be outraged and on the Lindsey Graham charge.

But that's not what is going on here.

The State of New York has expressways/tollways with VERY limited on/off ramps. My state (Kansas) has a similar one running through it. A chunk of I-35 from the southern state line to Emporia plus a road number I can't remember from Emporia to the western KCK suburbs. I'd guess that most of you have driven it. 'Bout 220 miles total. There are seven total places to get gas/food that you can access without exiting the turnpike. Each of those places has one fast food restaurant, so the restaurant is a mini-monopoly of sorts. The turnpike authority takes bids every so often from franchises, and in order to have its bid considered, a prospective franchise has to agree to certain terms. One of those is to be open seven days a week. (They do allow exceptions for things like today.)

It's done this way because of the limited nature of food choices travelers have. It's certainly not a back-of-the-hand to religious groups. CFA doesn't want to open Sundays, just find a spot off of the tollway. I'm surprised New York hasn't had this requirement all along. I don't see the outrage given the circumstances.

But you guys be you.

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So they already have dozens of Chick-Fil-A locations operating in the tollway system, but this time it's different. Oookay. Well I'm sure it's just about traveler convenience…

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as a traveler who hates finding closed food/gas places, I get it. Ever got off a flight at 9pm and every single thing in the air port was closed? How about getting to air port for 6am flight to find nothing open and cant take anything thru security?

Traveling has alot of suck to it.

On the flip side, I am sure they are happy to stick it to chick fil A whenever they can..

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I fly to many places where there's nothing available at 12:30pm on a Tuesday. Just a curious change when it didn't matter before. If there were public complaints related to the lack of food during a specific period on Sundays (no one is 24/7) then maybe it would make sense. Perhaps there are and I'm just not aware.

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fair enough

J.R. said:

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I don't know where you people travel, but I travel a lot, domestic and international. Finding food and or gasoline has never, ever been a problem. Go to WAWA, /7/11 or the like and knock yourself out.

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lol, northeastern turnpikes arent like Texas interstates.

You can go for miles without an exit for anything, finally find an exit it only leads to a state run travel stop. Good luck!

I support Chick Fil a being on open on Sundays and Congress closed Monday - Friday

J.R. said:

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I don't know where you people travel, but I travel a lot, domestic and international. Finding food and or gasoline has never, ever been a problem. Go to WAWA, /7/11 or the like and knock yourself out.

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Fly private and you get vending machine at the airport and whatever they or you brought onto the plane for the flight.

Wouldn't bother me if CFA just closed shop in corrupt NY State. Jobs would be lost, but NY is used to that anyway.

fubar said:

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ATL Bear said:

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fubar said:

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I'm not a fan of Chick Fil A's food, but I admire and support its practice of closing Sundays. If this case was an example of New York trying to force CFA to open Sundays, I'd be outraged and on the Lindsey Graham charge.

But that's not what is going on here.

The State of New York has expressways/tollways with VERY limited on/off ramps. My state (Kansas) has a similar one running through it. A chunk of I-35 from the southern state line to Emporia plus a road number I can't remember from Emporia to the western KCK suburbs. I'd guess that most of you have driven it. 'Bout 220 miles total. There are seven total places to get gas/food that you can access without exiting the turnpike. Each of those places has one fast food restaurant, so the restaurant is a mini-monopoly of sorts. The turnpike authority takes bids every so often from franchises, and in order to have its bid considered, a prospective franchise has to agree to certain terms. One of those is to be open seven days a week. (They do allow exceptions for things like today.)

It's done this way because of the limited nature of food choices travelers have. It's certainly not a back-of-the-hand to religious groups. CFA doesn't want to open Sundays, just find a spot off of the tollway. I'm surprised New York hasn't had this requirement all along. I don't see the outrage given the circumstances.

But you guys be you.

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So they already have dozens of Chick-Fil-A locations operating in the tollway system, but this time it's different. Oookay. Well I'm sure it's just about traveler convenience…

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But I don't see the battle that the Culture War Combatants seem to see here.!

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When in your 20 years on this board have you ever seen that as a battle? Lol.

fubar said:

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ATL Bear said:

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fubar said:

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ATL Bear said:

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fubar said:

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I'm not a fan of Chick Fil A's food, but I admire and support its practice of closing Sundays. If this case was an example of New York trying to force CFA to open Sundays, I'd be outraged and on the Lindsey Graham charge.

But that's not what is going on here.

The State of New York has expressways/tollways with VERY limited on/off ramps. My state (Kansas) has a similar one running through it. A chunk of I-35 from the southern state line to Emporia plus a road number I can't remember from Emporia to the western KCK suburbs. I'd guess that most of you have driven it. 'Bout 220 miles total. There are seven total places to get gas/food that you can access without exiting the turnpike. Each of those places has one fast food restaurant, so the restaurant is a mini-monopoly of sorts. The turnpike authority takes bids every so often from franchises, and in order to have its bid considered, a prospective franchise has to agree to certain terms. One of those is to be open seven days a week. (They do allow exceptions for things like today.)

It's done this way because of the limited nature of food choices travelers have. It's certainly not a back-of-the-hand to religious groups. CFA doesn't want to open Sundays, just find a spot off of the tollway. I'm surprised New York hasn't had this requirement all along. I don't see the outrage given the circumstances.

But you guys be you.

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So they already have dozens of Chick-Fil-A locations operating in the tollway system, but this time it's different. Oookay. Well I'm sure it's just about traveler convenience…

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Like I said, I'm surprised that opening seven days/week hasn't been a requirement all along. It has been in my neck of the woods. If individual CFA franchisee's are getting the shaft with a change in the contract, well, that definitely sucks.

But I don't see the battle that the Culture War Combatants seem to see here. So I'll sit this one out. Feel free to jump in. Senator Graham needs you!

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Probably because the absence of a specialty food service one day a week isn't an actual traveler inconvenience. If they provided gas maybe it would make sense.

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It's the absence of ANY food that is the problem.

But what the hey. Those silly people should just travel when it's convenient for entities like CFA.

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You said you travelled the turnpikes up there. If you did you would know they aren't exclusive venue stops, i.e. in addition to the gas shop with all sorts of edibles, there are multiple food places. But sure, keep presenting it as a problem. I mean why not a 24/7 requirement since travelers can't be inconvenienced at any point in the week. And why the holiday exclusion? Don't a lot of people travel on holidays?

Just for grins for the poor stranded travelers with nothing to eat.
https://www.thruway.ny.gov/travelers/travelplazas/index.cgi

4th and Inches said:

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J.R. said:

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I don't know where you people travel, but I travel a lot, domestic and international. Finding food and or gasoline has never, ever been a problem. Go to WAWA, /7/11 or the like and knock yourself out.

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lol, northeastern turnpikes arent like Texas interstates.

You can go for miles without an exit for anything, finally find an exit it only leads to a state run travel stop. Good luck!

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I travel and have traveled in the NE a lot. NYC,Philly,Baltimore, DC. Never, ever had an issue with food or gasoline. I know how the turnpikes work.

Been to and detest Philly, DC, Baltimore and NYC.

New Hampshire and Maine are the only parts of New England I am willing to re visit.

KaiBear said:

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Been to and detest Philly, DC, Baltimore and NYC.

New Hampshire and Maine are the only parts of New England I am willing to re visit.

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Actually, Philly, Baltimore and DC are great towns if you know where to go and in Baltimore, where not to go. Each of them are great cities, IMO.

I would have expected NYC to close all CF's by using the argument that fried chicken is racist.

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I would have expected NYC to close all CF's by using the argument that fried chicken is racist.

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CFA feeds and waters the protesters for free when they protest, so it's not fun trying to rally a cause when one is treated better than they are at home.

J.R. said:

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KaiBear said:

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Been to and detest Philly, DC, Baltimore and NYC.

New Hampshire and Maine are the only parts of New England I am willing to re visit.

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Actually, Philly, Baltimore and DC are great towns if you know where to go and in Baltimore, where not to go. Each of them are great cities, IMO.

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LOL! I would have agreed with this thirty years ago. Same for San Francisco, Seattle, and Portland.

ATL Bear said:

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fubar said:

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ATL Bear said:

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fubar said:

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ATL Bear said:

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fubar said:

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I'm not a fan of Chick Fil A's food, but I admire and support its practice of closing Sundays. If this case was an example of New York trying to force CFA to open Sundays, I'd be outraged and on the Lindsey Graham charge.

But that's not what is going on here.

The State of New York has expressways/tollways with VERY limited on/off ramps. My state (Kansas) has a similar one running through it. A chunk of I-35 from the southern state line to Emporia plus a road number I can't remember from Emporia to the western KCK suburbs. I'd guess that most of you have driven it. 'Bout 220 miles total. There are seven total places to get gas/food that you can access without exiting the turnpike. Each of those places has one fast food restaurant, so the restaurant is a mini-monopoly of sorts. The turnpike authority takes bids every so often from franchises, and in order to have its bid considered, a prospective franchise has to agree to certain terms. One of those is to be open seven days a week. (They do allow exceptions for things like today.)

It's done this way because of the limited nature of food choices travelers have. It's certainly not a back-of-the-hand to religious groups. CFA doesn't want to open Sundays, just find a spot off of the tollway. I'm surprised New York hasn't had this requirement all along. I don't see the outrage given the circumstances.

But you guys be you.

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So they already have dozens of Chick-Fil-A locations operating in the tollway system, but this time it's different. Oookay. Well I'm sure it's just about traveler convenience…

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Like I said, I'm surprised that opening seven days/week hasn't been a requirement all along. It has been in my neck of the woods. If individual CFA franchisee's are getting the shaft with a change in the contract, well, that definitely sucks.

But I don't see the battle that the Culture War Combatants seem to see here. So I'll sit this one out. Feel free to jump in. Senator Graham needs you!

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Probably because the absence of a specialty food service one day a week isn't an actual traveler inconvenience. If they provided gas maybe it would make sense.

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It's the absence of ANY food that is the problem.

But what the hey. Those silly people should just travel when it's convenient for entities like CFA.

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You said you travelled the turnpikes up there. If you did you would know they aren't exclusive venue stops, i.e. in addition to the gas shop with all sorts of edibles, there are multiple food places. But sure, keep presenting it as a problem. I mean why not a 24/7 requirement since travelers can't be inconvenienced at any point in the week. And why the holiday exclusion? Don't a lot of people travel on holidays?

Just for grins for the poor stranded travelers with nothing to eat.
https://www.thruway.ny.gov/travelers/travelplazas/index.cgi

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I don't recall ever seeing a CFA in the turnpike stops, but it's been five years since I traveled much in that area. (In-laws moved back to Chicago in 2018.) Given that I wouldn't have been looking for a CFA, I could easily have missed them. That there are multiple restaurants at most stops surprises me, as that isn't what I recall. I'll admit to that error. Your link proves me wrong on that point, and I thank you for showing me.

I searched your link for the "dozens" of CFAs you mentioned and found but seven. Perhaps neither of us is entirely accurate.

You (and plenty of others) seem to think that traveler convenience isn't what is behind the changes on the NY turnpikes, just some pretext I conjured out of my liberal ***. The heathen State is just out to get God-fearing CFA. In response, I'll point out that that heathen State is the de facto landlord, making contracts with entities to fill limited space. And this particular landlord collects not just rent, but revenue in the form of taxes. Perhaps the heathens simply don't want to forego tax $$$ while valuable spaces sit empty every seventh day.

You're smart. You can come up with other reasons why, other than hating Chick-Fil-A, New York might want to change contract requirements.

Or you can take the lazy route that the usual suspects like so much. Lindsey Graham is counting on you. CHARGE!

P.S. 4 inches is right. There is a ton of open space in New York once you get out of the NYC/Albany corridor.

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I'm not a fan of Chick Fil A's food, but I admire and support its practice of closing Sundays. If this case was an example of New York trying to force CFA to open Sundays, I'd be outraged and on the Lindsey Graham charge.

But that's not what is going on here.

The State of New York has expressways/tollways with VERY limited on/off ramps. My state (Kansas) has a similar one running through it. A chunk of I-35 from the southern state line to Emporia plus a road number I can't remember from Emporia to the western KCK suburbs. I'd guess that most of you have driven it. 'Bout 220 miles total. There are seven total places to get gas/food that you can access without exiting the turnpike. Each of those places has one fast food restaurant, so the restaurant is a mini-monopoly of sorts. The turnpike authority takes bids every so often from franchises, and in order to have its bid considered, a prospective franchise has to agree to certain terms. One of those is to be open seven days a week. (They do allow exceptions for things like today.)

It's done this way because of the limited nature of food choices travelers have. It's certainly not a back-of-the-hand to religious groups. CFA doesn't want to open Sundays, just find a spot off of the tollway. I'm surprised New York hasn't had this requirement all along. I don't see the outrage given the circumstances.

But you guys be you.

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So they already have dozens of Chick-Fil-A locations operating in the tollway system, but this time it's different. Oookay. Well I'm sure it's just about traveler convenience…

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Like I said, I'm surprised that opening seven days/week hasn't been a requirement all along. It has been in my neck of the woods. If individual CFA franchisee's are getting the shaft with a change in the contract, well, that definitely sucks.

But I don't see the battle that the Culture War Combatants seem to see here. So I'll sit this one out. Feel free to jump in. Senator Graham needs you!

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Probably because the absence of a specialty food service one day a week isn't an actual traveler inconvenience. If they provided gas maybe it would make sense.

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It's the absence of ANY food that is the problem.

But what the hey. Those silly people should just travel when it's convenient for entities like CFA.

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You said you travelled the turnpikes up there. If you did you would know they aren't exclusive venue stops, i.e. in addition to the gas shop with all sorts of edibles, there are multiple food places. But sure, keep presenting it as a problem. I mean why not a 24/7 requirement since travelers can't be inconvenienced at any point in the week. And why the holiday exclusion? Don't a lot of people travel on holidays?

Just for grins for the poor stranded travelers with nothing to eat.
https://www.thruway.ny.gov/travelers/travelplazas/index.cgi

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I don't recall ever seeing a CFA in the turnpike stops, but it's been five years since I traveled much in that area. (In-laws moved back to Chicago in 2018.) Given that I wouldn't have been looking for a CFA, I could easily have missed them. That there are multiple restaurants at most stops surprises me, as that isn't what I recall. I'll admit to that error. Your link proves me wrong on that point, and I thank you for showing me.

I searched your link for the "dozens" of CFAs you mentioned and found but seven. Perhaps neither of us is entirely accurate.

You (and plenty of others) seem to think that traveler convenience isn't what is behind the changes on the NY turnpikes, just some pretext I conjured out of my liberal ***. The heathen State is just out to get God-fearing CFA. In response, I'll point out that that heathen State is the de facto landlord, making contracts with entities to fill limited space. And this particular landlord collects not just rent, but revenue in the form of taxes. Perhaps the heathens simply don't want to forego tax $$$ while valuable spaces sit empty every seventh day.

You're smart. You can come up with other reasons why, other than hating Chick-Fil-A, New York might want to change contract requirements.

Or you can take the lazy route that the usual suspects like so much. Lindsey Graham is counting on you. CHARGE!

P.S. 4 inches is right. There is a ton of open space in New York once you get out of the NYC/Albany corridor.

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Short version…..

" I might be wrong on this particular topic but Christians and conservatives still suck and can't hold a candle to my intellectual prowess."

Happy New Year sir.

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I'm not a fan of Chick Fil A's food, but I admire and support its practice of closing Sundays. If this case was an example of New York trying to force CFA to open Sundays, I'd be outraged and on the Lindsey Graham charge.

But that's not what is going on here.

The State of New York has expressways/tollways with VERY limited on/off ramps. My state (Kansas) has a similar one running through it. A chunk of I-35 from the southern state line to Emporia plus a road number I can't remember from Emporia to the western KCK suburbs. I'd guess that most of you have driven it. 'Bout 220 miles total. There are seven total places to get gas/food that you can access without exiting the turnpike. Each of those places has one fast food restaurant, so the restaurant is a mini-monopoly of sorts. The turnpike authority takes bids every so often from franchises, and in order to have its bid considered, a prospective franchise has to agree to certain terms. One of those is to be open seven days a week. (They do allow exceptions for things like today.)

It's done this way because of the limited nature of food choices travelers have. It's certainly not a back-of-the-hand to religious groups. CFA doesn't want to open Sundays, just find a spot off of the tollway. I'm surprised New York hasn't had this requirement all along. I don't see the outrage given the circumstances.

But you guys be you.

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So they already have dozens of Chick-Fil-A locations operating in the tollway system, but this time it's different. Oookay. Well I'm sure it's just about traveler convenience…

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Like I said, I'm surprised that opening seven days/week hasn't been a requirement all along. It has been in my neck of the woods. If individual CFA franchisee's are getting the shaft with a change in the contract, well, that definitely sucks.

But I don't see the battle that the Culture War Combatants seem to see here. So I'll sit this one out. Feel free to jump in. Senator Graham needs you!

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Probably because the absence of a specialty food service one day a week isn't an actual traveler inconvenience. If they provided gas maybe it would make sense.

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It's the absence of ANY food that is the problem.

But what the hey. Those silly people should just travel when it's convenient for entities like CFA.

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You said you travelled the turnpikes up there. If you did you would know they aren't exclusive venue stops, i.e. in addition to the gas shop with all sorts of edibles, there are multiple food places. But sure, keep presenting it as a problem. I mean why not a 24/7 requirement since travelers can't be inconvenienced at any point in the week. And why the holiday exclusion? Don't a lot of people travel on holidays?

Just for grins for the poor stranded travelers with nothing to eat.
https://www.thruway.ny.gov/travelers/travelplazas/index.cgi

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I don't recall ever seeing a CFA in the turnpike stops, but it's been five years since I traveled much in that area. (In-laws moved back to Chicago in 2018.) Given that I wouldn't have been looking for a CFA, I could easily have missed them. That there are multiple restaurants at most stops surprises me, as that isn't what I recall. I'll admit to that error. Your link proves me wrong on that point, and I thank you for showing me.

I searched your link for the "dozens" of CFAs you mentioned and found but seven. Perhaps neither of us is entirely accurate.

You (and plenty of others) seem to think that traveler convenience isn't what is behind the changes on the NY turnpikes, just some pretext I conjured out of my liberal ***. The heathen State is just out to get God-fearing CFA. In response, I'll point out that that heathen State is the de facto landlord, making contracts with entities to fill limited space. And this particular landlord collects not just rent, but revenue in the form of taxes. Perhaps the heathens simply don't want to forego tax $$$ while valuable spaces sit empty every seventh day.

You're smart. You can come up with other reasons why, other than hating Chick-Fil-A, New York might want to change contract requirements.

Or you can take the lazy route that the usual suspects like so much. Lindsey Graham is counting on you. CHARGE!

P.S. 4 inches is right. There is a ton of open space in New York once you get out of the NYC/Albany corridor.

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I'm not some wild haired culture warrior, but there's a history here that can't be denied. The reason you can't remember any CFAs at the rest stops is because it's a recent addition and, amazingly, was fought by lawmakers on the specific grounds that get mentioned every time CFA is in the news about growing somewhere the liberals aren't happy about. Lindsey Graham was involved then too (must be getting some serious lobby money from them), but you simply can't deny the motivations.

After years of millions in donations to organizations hostile to LGBTQ+ rights, the decision to approve @ChickfilA as an approved concession at our rest stops is concerning to say the least.

It’s time the @NYSThruway re-examine this choice. pic.twitter.com/8sOkNRjQop

— Harry B. Bronson (@HarryBBronson) July 10, 2021

And to thicken the plot, the state doesn't run these, they lease the rights to a third party that in turns runs it, including who to lease space to, so they're interjecting into that company's policies.

There's nothing about going "CHARGE" here, I'm just not willing to bugle out RETREAT.

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I'm not a fan of Chick Fil A's food, but I admire and support its practice of closing Sundays. If this case was an example of New York trying to force CFA to open Sundays, I'd be outraged and on the Lindsey Graham charge.

But that's not what is going on here.

The State of New York has expressways/tollways with VERY limited on/off ramps. My state (Kansas) has a similar one running through it. A chunk of I-35 from the southern state line to Emporia plus a road number I can't remember from Emporia to the western KCK suburbs. I'd guess that most of you have driven it. 'Bout 220 miles total. There are seven total places to get gas/food that you can access without exiting the turnpike. Each of those places has one fast food restaurant, so the restaurant is a mini-monopoly of sorts. The turnpike authority takes bids every so often from franchises, and in order to have its bid considered, a prospective franchise has to agree to certain terms. One of those is to be open seven days a week. (They do allow exceptions for things like today.)

It's done this way because of the limited nature of food choices travelers have. It's certainly not a back-of-the-hand to religious groups. CFA doesn't want to open Sundays, just find a spot off of the tollway. I'm surprised New York hasn't had this requirement all along. I don't see the outrage given the circumstances.

But you guys be you.

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So they already have dozens of Chick-Fil-A locations operating in the tollway system, but this time it's different. Oookay. Well I'm sure it's just about traveler convenience…

---

Like I said, I'm surprised that opening seven days/week hasn't been a requirement all along. It has been in my neck of the woods. If individual CFA franchisee's are getting the shaft with a change in the contract, well, that definitely sucks.

But I don't see the battle that the Culture War Combatants seem to see here. So I'll sit this one out. Feel free to jump in. Senator Graham needs you!

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Probably because the absence of a specialty food service one day a week isn't an actual traveler inconvenience. If they provided gas maybe it would make sense.

---

It's the absence of ANY food that is the problem.

But what the hey. Those silly people should just travel when it's convenient for entities like CFA.

---

You said you travelled the turnpikes up there. If you did you would know they aren't exclusive venue stops, i.e. in addition to the gas shop with all sorts of edibles, there are multiple food places. But sure, keep presenting it as a problem. I mean why not a 24/7 requirement since travelers can't be inconvenienced at any point in the week. And why the holiday exclusion? Don't a lot of people travel on holidays?

Just for grins for the poor stranded travelers with nothing to eat.
https://www.thruway.ny.gov/travelers/travelplazas/index.cgi

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I don't recall ever seeing a CFA in the turnpike stops, but it's been five years since I traveled much in that area. (In-laws moved back to Chicago in 2018.) Given that I wouldn't have been looking for a CFA, I could easily have missed them. That there are multiple restaurants at most stops surprises me, as that isn't what I recall. I'll admit to that error. Your link proves me wrong on that point, and I thank you for showing me.

I searched your link for the "dozens" of CFAs you mentioned and found but seven. Perhaps neither of us is entirely accurate.

You (and plenty of others) seem to think that traveler convenience isn't what is behind the changes on the NY turnpikes, just some pretext I conjured out of my liberal ***. The heathen State is just out to get God-fearing CFA. In response, I'll point out that that heathen State is the de facto landlord, making contracts with entities to fill limited space. And this particular landlord collects not just rent, but revenue in the form of taxes. Perhaps the heathens simply don't want to forego tax $$$ while valuable spaces sit empty every seventh day.

You're smart. You can come up with other reasons why, other than hating Chick-Fil-A, New York might want to change contract requirements.

Or you can take the lazy route that the usual suspects like so much. Lindsey Graham is counting on you. CHARGE!

P.S. 4 inches is right. There is a ton of open space in New York once you get out of the NYC/Albany corridor.

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I'm not some wild haired culture warrior, but there's a history here that can't be denied. The reason you can't remember any CFAs at the rest stops is because it's a recent addition and, amazingly, was fought by lawmakers on the specific grounds that get mentioned every time CFA is in the news about growing somewhere the liberals aren't happy about. Lindsey Graham was involved then too (must be getting some serious lobby money from them), but you simply can't deny the motivations.

After years of millions in donations to organizations hostile to LGBTQ+ rights, the decision to approve @ChickfilA as an approved concession at our rest stops is concerning to say the least.

It’s time the @NYSThruway re-examine this choice. pic.twitter.com/8sOkNRjQop

— Harry B. Bronson (@HarryBBronson) July 10, 2021

And to thicken the plot, the state doesn't run these, they lease the rights to a third party that in turns runs it, including who to lease space to, so they're interjecting into that company's policies.

There's nothing about going "CHARGE" here, I'm just not willing to bugle out RETREAT.

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OMG! Chick Fil A supports The Salvation Army! Those *******s. Put them out of business!