KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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- In 1965 author William Humphrey (*Home From the Hill*) explained why the Southerner is still fascinated with the Civi War.

"If the Civil War is more alive to the Southerner than the Northerner it is because all of the past is, and this is so because the Southerner has a sense of having been present there himself in the person of one or more of his ancestors. The war filled merely a chapter in his . . . [family history] . . . transmitted orally from father to son [as] the proverbs, prophecies, legends, laws, traditions-of-origin and tales-of-wanderings of his own tribe. . . It is this feeling of identity with the dead (who are past) which characterizes and explains the Southerner.

It is with kin, not causes, that the Southerner is linked. Confederate Great-grandfather . . . is not remembered for his (probably undistinguished) part in the Battle of Bull Run; rather Bull Run is remembered because Great-grandfather was there. For the Southerner the Civil War is in the family.

Clannishness was, and is, the key to his temperament, and he went off to war to protect not Alabama but only those thirty or forty acres of its sandy hillside, or stiff red clay, which he broke his back tilling, and which was as big a country as his mind could hold."

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Southerners remember the Civil War more passionately because they got their asses stomped; both during the war and during Reconstruction.

In the most hypocritical manner possible.

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and all of it but Gettysberg was fought in southern/confederate territory

4th and Inches said:

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KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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- In 1965 author William Humphrey (*Home From the Hill*) explained why the Southerner is still fascinated with the Civi War.

"If the Civil War is more alive to the Southerner than the Northerner it is because all of the past is, and this is so because the Southerner has a sense of having been present there himself in the person of one or more of his ancestors. The war filled merely a chapter in his . . . [family history] . . . transmitted orally from father to son [as] the proverbs, prophecies, legends, laws, traditions-of-origin and tales-of-wanderings of his own tribe. . . It is this feeling of identity with the dead (who are past) which characterizes and explains the Southerner.

It is with kin, not causes, that the Southerner is linked. Confederate Great-grandfather . . . is not remembered for his (probably undistinguished) part in the Battle of Bull Run; rather Bull Run is remembered because Great-grandfather was there. For the Southerner the Civil War is in the family.

Clannishness was, and is, the key to his temperament, and he went off to war to protect not Alabama but only those thirty or forty acres of its sandy hillside, or stiff red clay, which he broke his back tilling, and which was as big a country as his mind could hold."

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Southerners remember the Civil War more passionately because they got their asses stomped; both during the war and during Reconstruction.

In the most hypocritical manner possible.

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and all of it but Gettysberg was fought in southern/confederate territory

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Depends on what you consider to be southern territory and what constitutes a 'battle'.

Got to keep in mind the winners write the history books.

There were additional states that wanted to leave the Union, but federal troops prohibited the transfer .

Maryland and especially Missouri come to mind.

Nothing in US history was a bigger, more tragic, more unnecessary blood fest than the Civil War.


And all for nothing.

Porteroso said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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[Before proceeding, let me say I think I have no prejudice against the Southern people. They are just what we would be in their situation. If slavery did not now exist amongst them, they would not introduce it. If it did now exist amongst us, we should not instantly give it up. This I believe of the masses north and south. Doubtless there are individuals, on both sides, who would not hold slaves under any circumstances; and others who would gladly introduce slavery anew, if it were out of existence. We know that some southern men do free their slaves, go north, and become tip-top abolitionists; while some northern ones go south, and become slave-masters.] -Abraham Lincoln

"When southern people tell us they are no more responsible for the origin of slavery, than we; I acknowledge the fact. When it is said that the institution exists; and that it is very difficult to get rid of it, in any satisfactory way, I can understand and appreciate the saying. I surely will not blame them for not doing what I should not know how to do myself. If all earthly power were given me, I should not know what to do, as to the existing institution." -Abraham Lincoln

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Skirting the issue, and you really didn't address the OP at all.

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Is it important to us in 2024? I think not.