RFK 2024

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Realitybites
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"We are going to remake public institutions to serve the public. We will roll back the secrecy and make government transparent. We will protect whistleblowers and prosecute officials who abuse the public trust. We will rein in the lobbyists and slam shut the revolving door that shunts people from government agencies to lucrative positions in the companies they were supposed to regulate, and back again. We will get money out of politics. We will open our institutions to real citizen involvement. We will restore integrity to government."

"It is time to end the imperial project and attend to all that has been neglected: the crumbling cities, the antiquated railways, the failing water systems, the decaying infrastructure, the ailing economy. Annual defense-related spending is close to one trillion dollars. We maintain 800 military bases around the world. The peace dividend that was supposed to come after the Berlin Wall fell was never redeemed. Now we have another chance.

"As President, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. will start the process of unwinding empire. We will bring the troops home. We will stop racking up unpayable debt to fight one war after another. The military will return to its proper role of defending our country. We will end the proxy wars, bombing campaigns, covert operations, coups, paramilitaries, and everything else that has become so normal most people don't know it's happening. But it is happening, a constant drain on our strength. It's time to come home and restore this country."

"Every nation, like every individual, has a darker side and a lighter side. The easiest thing for a politician to do is to appeal to our greed, to our anger, to our fear, to our xenophobia, our bigotry, all of the alchemies of tribalism. I will appeal instead to our generosity as a people, our goodness, our kindness, and our courage."

"A Kennedy administration will respect American citizens and stop treating them like suspects and schoolchildren. We will stop manipulating the public with propaganda and targeted leaks. We will never weaponize the law against political opponents, nor hold our own officials above the law. We will return the intelligence agencies to their proper role as protectors not violators of liberty."

Obviously, I don't agree with him on a handful of issues. But this might be the only way back from the authoritarian tyranny we find ourselves on the precipice of. Biden (or whoever replaces him), or Haley (or whoever ends up on the GOP ticket) isn't likely to.

Discuss.
JXL
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Realitybites said:

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"We are going to remake public institutions to serve the public. We will roll back the secrecy and make government transparent. We will protect whistleblowers and prosecute officials who abuse the public trust. We will rein in the lobbyists and slam shut the revolving door that shunts people from government agencies to lucrative positions in the companies they were supposed to regulate, and back again. We will get money out of politics. We will open our institutions to real citizen involvement. We will restore integrity to government."

"It is time to end the imperial project and attend to all that has been neglected: the crumbling cities, the antiquated railways, the failing water systems, the decaying infrastructure, the ailing economy. Annual defense-related spending is close to one trillion dollars. We maintain 800 military bases around the world. The peace dividend that was supposed to come after the Berlin Wall fell was never redeemed. Now we have another chance.

As President, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. will start the process of unwinding empire. We will bring the troops home. We will stop racking up unpayable debt to fight one war after another. The military will return to its proper role of defending our country. We will end the proxy wars, bombing campaigns, covert operations, coups, paramilitaries, and everything else that has become so normal most people don't know it's happening. But it is happening, a constant drain on our strength. It's time to come home and restore this country."

"Every nation, like every individual, has a darker side and a lighter side. The easiest thing for a politician to do is to appeal to our greed, to our anger, to our fear, to our xenophobia, our bigotry, all of the alchemies of tribalism. I will appeal instead to our generosity as a people, our goodness, our kindness, and our courage."

"A Kennedy administration will respect American citizens and stop treating them like suspects and schoolchildren. We will stop manipulating the public with propaganda and targeted leaks. We will never weaponize the law against political opponents, nor hold our own officials above the law. We will return the intelligence agencies to their proper role as protectors not violators of liberty."

Obviously, I don't agree with him on a handful of issues. But this might be the only way back from the authoritarian tyranny we find ourselves on the precipice of. Biden (or whoever replaces him), or Haley (or whoever ends up on the GOP ticket) isn't likely to.

Discuss.



I could get on board with that.
Realitybites
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I've always been a voter that put candidate before party. My first political involvement was in the Buchanan for President campaign. I still maintain that had America chosen him, much of the unfolding disaster of the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama half decade could have been avoided.

Voted for Bush once, voted Constitution party, held my nose and voted for Mccain, voted third party over Romney, and voted for Trump twice.

We need a government for the people, by the people. Right now we don't have it.
Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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I dont think he stands a snownballs chance in hades but I could vote for him.
muddybrazos
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I really like a lot about him except the climate hysteria and his views on gun rights. I will vote for him if they somehow keep Trump off the ballot.
J.R.
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Realitybites said:

I've always been a voter that put candidate before party. My first political involvement was in the Buchanan for President campaign. I still maintain that had America chosen him, much of the unfolding disaster of the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama half decade could have been avoided.

Voted for Bush once, voted Constitution party, held my nose and voted for Mccain, voted third party over Romney, and voted for Trump twice.

We need a government for the people, by the people. Right now we don't have it.
so you want a govt for the people, but voted for trump twice? did you mean that you want govt for the trumps? He doesn't give 2 ****s about you.
Porteroso
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If the average American saw this, they'd agree almost entirely. The issue is that nobody makes a ton of money off of kindness. Entertainment media makes money off rage and fear. So they will report on this like it is a footnote, and the headlines will continue to read "AOC blasts eviscerates destroys annihilates etc."
LIB,MR BEARS
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I dont think he stands a snownballs chance in hades but I could vote for him.

If all of us who thought this actually voted for him, he'd probably win.
KaiBear
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J.R. said:

Realitybites said:

I've always been a voter that put candidate before party. My first political involvement was in the Buchanan for President campaign. I still maintain that had America chosen him, much of the unfolding disaster of the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama half decade could have been avoided.

Voted for Bush once, voted Constitution party, held my nose and voted for Mccain, voted third party over Romney, and voted for Trump twice.

We need a government for the people, by the people. Right now we don't have it.
so you want a govt for the people, but voted for trump twice? did you mean that you want govt for the trumps? He doesn't give 2 ****s about you.


LOL

JR , you have admitted several times that you also voted for Trump twice .

As have I.

But not a 3rd time.

If Trump is the Republican nominee going to vote for Kennedy.

muddybrazos
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KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

Realitybites said:

I've always been a voter that put candidate before party. My first political involvement was in the Buchanan for President campaign. I still maintain that had America chosen him, much of the unfolding disaster of the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama half decade could have been avoided.

Voted for Bush once, voted Constitution party, held my nose and voted for Mccain, voted third party over Romney, and voted for Trump twice.

We need a government for the people, by the people. Right now we don't have it.
so you want a govt for the people, but voted for trump twice? did you mean that you want govt for the trumps? He doesn't give 2 ****s about you.


LOL

JR , you have admitted several times that you also voted for Trump twice .

As have I.

But not a 3rd time.

If Trump is the Republican nominee going to vote for Kennedy.


Well, I hope you've moved to Florida where it wont matter what you do. If you still live in CO we need you to vote Trump.
Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I dont think he stands a snownballs chance in hades but I could vote for him.

If all of us who thought this actually voted for him, he'd probably win.
i think most are too caught up in their respective party.. I have been attacked for years by those that claim a vote for anyone but Trump is a vote for Clinton/Biden/etc. I have voted Lib since I last voted Rep. (Bush).
Whiskey Pete
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My votes in order in the general election

Trump
RFK Jr.
Captain Kangaroo
Nikki Haley
ATL Bear
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Not one mention of the nanny state that's burying us fiscally, or what the plan is for the 10's of thousands of unemployed soldiers and support staff his policy would create.

I do give him credit from interviews for being a Democrat serious about fixing the border crisis.
Realitybites
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I dont think he stands a snownballs chance in hades but I could vote for him.


That's the thing. You aren't betting on a ball game. You are - theoretically - engaging in an activity that affects the outcome. Vote your conscience.
nein51
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When you say "bring the troops home" just know you create a power vacuum that will be filled by someone. That's an absolute certainty.

Whether that someone is China or Russia or India or someone else it will be filled.

The problem isn't empire. The problem is pretending that's not what we are doing. It's a problem of will.

Hes also no chance at all of winning.
KaiBear
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muddybrazos said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

Realitybites said:

I've always been a voter that put candidate before party. My first political involvement was in the Buchanan for President campaign. I still maintain that had America chosen him, much of the unfolding disaster of the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama half decade could have been avoided.

Voted for Bush once, voted Constitution party, held my nose and voted for Mccain, voted third party over Romney, and voted for Trump twice.

We need a government for the people, by the people. Right now we don't have it.
so you want a govt for the people, but voted for trump twice? did you mean that you want govt for the trumps? He doesn't give 2 ****s about you.


LOL

JR , you have admitted several times that you also voted for Trump twice .

As have I.

But not a 3rd time.

If Trump is the Republican nominee going to vote for Kennedy.


Well, I hope you've moved to Florida where it wont matter what you do. If you still live in CO we need you to vote Trump.


Going to vote for the best man.

And with the field reduced to a dementia case , manic narcissist and Robert Kennedy…….

that's an easy choice .


BTW regardless where I vote Trump is going to lose by millions. But if Trump somehow loses by one vote in states of Florida, Texas, Colorado or Wyoming you can certainly scream at me to your heart's content.

4th and Inches
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KaiBear said:

muddybrazos said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

Realitybites said:

I've always been a voter that put candidate before party. My first political involvement was in the Buchanan for President campaign. I still maintain that had America chosen him, much of the unfolding disaster of the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama half decade could have been avoided.

Voted for Bush once, voted Constitution party, held my nose and voted for Mccain, voted third party over Romney, and voted for Trump twice.

We need a government for the people, by the people. Right now we don't have it.
so you want a govt for the people, but voted for trump twice? did you mean that you want govt for the trumps? He doesn't give 2 ****s about you.


LOL

JR , you have admitted several times that you also voted for Trump twice .

As have I.

But not a 3rd time.

If Trump is the Republican nominee going to vote for Kennedy.


Well, I hope you've moved to Florida where it wont matter what you do. If you still live in CO we need you to vote Trump.


Going to vote for the best man.

And with the field reduced to a dementia case , manic narcissist and Robert Kennedy…….

that's an easy choice .


BTW regardless where I vote Trump is going to lose by millions. But if Trump somehow loses by one vote in states of Florida, Texas, Colorado or Wyoming you can certainly scream at me to your heart's content.


they better get one of these cases against him to pop or he is POTUS again

I am Still voting for RFK especially if he picks a good running mate
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KaiBear
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4th and Inches said:

KaiBear said:

muddybrazos said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

Realitybites said:

I've always been a voter that put candidate before party. My first political involvement was in the Buchanan for President campaign. I still maintain that had America chosen him, much of the unfolding disaster of the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama half decade could have been avoided.

Voted for Bush once, voted Constitution party, held my nose and voted for Mccain, voted third party over Romney, and voted for Trump twice.

We need a government for the people, by the people. Right now we don't have it.
so you want a govt for the people, but voted for trump twice? did you mean that you want govt for the trumps? He doesn't give 2 ****s about you.


LOL

JR , you have admitted several times that you also voted for Trump twice .

As have I.

But not a 3rd time.

If Trump is the Republican nominee going to vote for Kennedy.


Well, I hope you've moved to Florida where it wont matter what you do. If you still live in CO we need you to vote Trump.


Going to vote for the best man.

And with the field reduced to a dementia case , manic narcissist and Robert Kennedy…….

that's an easy choice .


BTW regardless where I vote Trump is going to lose by millions. But if Trump somehow loses by one vote in states of Florida, Texas, Colorado or Wyoming you can certainly scream at me to your heart's content.


they better get one of these cases against him to pop or he is POTUS again


Focus your attention on the Georgia proceedings..

If the Dems become concerned about losing the election to Trump; that is where they will attempt to railroad him still again .
Sam Lowry
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I've been reserving judgment, but if this forum flips to RFK it's a good sign that Trump is toast. Will be interesting to see how everyone feels in November when the prospect of a Dem victory looms large.
nein51
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Sam Lowry said:

I've been reserving judgment, but if this forum flips to RFK it's a good sign that Trump is toast. Will be interesting to see how everyone feels in November when the prospect of a Dem victory looms large.

I'll be honest with you. Right now the (R) could put a block of Swiss cheese up and I would vote for it. It would impossible for the cheese to do a worse job.

I voted Trump once, couldn't hold my nose and vote for him the second time so I abstained and that was clearly a mistake.
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