I find it amazing that Brittney Griner is called un-American when she exercises her right of free speech, when the real anti-American (Trump) gets a free pass from the ultra-right. The Trump crowd fits all the hallmarks of a cult, and I am a republican too. Sad to see what Trump has done to America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-fake-elector-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-phony-document-claiming-trump-won-60-minutes-transcript/

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I find it amazing that Brittney Griner is called un-American when she exercises her right of free speech, when the real anti-American (Trump) gets a free pass from the ultra-right. The Trump crowd fits all the hallmarks of a cult, and I am a republican too. Sad to see what Trump has done to America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-fake-elector-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-phony-document-claiming-trump-won-60-minutes-transcript/

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You see straight. It's probably because you only have one eye

One-Eyed Wheeler said:

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I find it amazing that Brittney Griner is called un-American when she exercises her right of free speech, when the real anti-American (Trump) gets a free pass from the ultra-right. The Trump crowd fits all the hallmarks of a cult, and I am a republican too. Sad to see what Trump has done to America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-fake-elector-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-phony-document-claiming-trump-won-60-minutes-transcript/

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Trump is anti-American? The man is a lot of things (some not good) but he does love our country.

Sounds like the drinking water in Naperville has finally brainwashed you.

One-Eyed Wheeler said:

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I find it amazing that Brittney Griner is called un-American when she exercises her right of free speech, when the real anti-American (Trump) gets a free pass from the ultra-right. The Trump crowd fits all the hallmarks of a cult, and I am a republican too. Sad to see what Trump has done to America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-fake-elector-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-phony-document-claiming-trump-won-60-minutes-transcript/

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Three questions if you are willing:

1) Based on what criteria do you consider yourself to be a Republican?
2) If the answer to 1 is because you have voted that way in the past, for which candidates did you vote Republican and why?
3) When you say Trump is anti-American, would you mind clarifying what things he has done that are anti-American?

Kingdom Bear said:

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I find it amazing that Brittney Griner is called un-American when she exercises her right of free speech, when the real anti-American (Trump) gets a free pass from the ultra-right. The Trump crowd fits all the hallmarks of a cult, and I am a republican too. Sad to see what Trump has done to America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-fake-elector-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-phony-document-claiming-trump-won-60-minutes-transcript/

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Three questions if you are willing:

1) Based on what criteria do you consider yourself to be a Republican?
2) If the answer to 1 is because you have voted that way in the past, for which candidates did you vote Republican and why?
3) When you say Trump is anti-American, would you mind clarifying what things he has done that are anti-American?

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Gate keeping into a political party is an interesting path to victory. Thankfully based on your comment history you never were a republican.

What about the extreme apathy toward Britney Griner? Thats the camp that i'm in. I could not care less about her or girls basketball in general.

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I find it amazing that Brittney Griner is called un-American when she exercises her right of free speech, when the real anti-American (Trump) gets a free pass from the ultra-right. The Trump crowd fits all the hallmarks of a cult, and I am a republican too. Sad to see what Trump has done to America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-fake-elector-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-phony-document-claiming-trump-won-60-minutes-transcript/

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Three questions if you are willing:

1) Based on what criteria do you consider yourself to be a Republican?
2) If the answer to 1 is because you have voted that way in the past, for which candidates did you vote Republican and why?
3) When you say Trump is anti-American, would you mind clarifying what things he has done that are anti-American?

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Gate keeping into a political party is an interesting path to victory. Thankfully based on your comment history you never were a republican.

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Who said I am gate-keeping? Take my questions at face value.

Also, which comments are you referring to in your second sentence that indicates I have never been a Republican?

Trump is the real enemy. I don't know how any rational republican can support this turd.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/trump-fake-elector-wisconsin-60-minutes-video-2024-02-18/

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Trump is the real enemy. I don't know how any rational republican can support this turd.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/trump-fake-elector-wisconsin-60-minutes-video-2024-02-18/

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It's been a slow evolution of voting based on your identity and not political ideology or shared moral values. It's also why conservative immigrants tend to vote liberal despite their actual political beliefs.

One-Eyed Wheeler said:

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I find it amazing that Brittney Griner is called un-American when she exercises her right of free speech, when the real anti-American (Trump) gets a free pass from the ultra-right. The Trump crowd fits all the hallmarks of a cult, and I am a republican too. Sad to see what Trump has done to America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-fake-elector-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-phony-document-claiming-trump-won-60-minutes-transcript/

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So, just as a logical exercise....if it's "irrational hatred" to call Griner "un-American" for doing something un-American, then wouldn't it also be irrational hatred to call Trump un-American for doing something un-American?

incredible trump shoehorn on a baylor-related post. bravo, sir. it's funny how the folks that point and cry "trump cult" have their own little trump cult.

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I find it amazing that Brittney Griner is called un-American when she exercises her right of free speech, when the real anti-American (Trump) gets a free pass from the ultra-right. The Trump crowd fits all the hallmarks of a cult, and I am a republican too. Sad to see what Trump has done to America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-fake-elector-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-phony-document-claiming-trump-won-60-minutes-transcript/

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So, just as a logical exercise....if it's "irrational hatred" to call Griner "un-American" for doing something un-American, then wouldn't it also be irrational hatred to call Trump un-American for doing something un-American?

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Your logic is seriously screwed up. Brittney exercised her right of free speech, which is entirely American, whereas Trump actively courted and supported insurrection. Why is that so hard to understand?

Trying to reverse a legitimate election in Wisconsin is the most un-American thing I can imagine.

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incredible trump shoehorn on a baylor-related post. bravo, sir. it's funny how the folks that point and cry "trump cult" have their own little trump cult.

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No, I like American democracy where elections are free and not corrupted by a turd.

"and I am a republican too..."

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I find it amazing that Brittney Griner is called un-American when she exercises her right of free speech, when the real anti-American (Trump) gets a free pass from the ultra-right. The Trump crowd fits all the hallmarks of a cult, and I am a republican too. Sad to see what Trump has done to America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-fake-elector-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-phony-document-claiming-trump-won-60-minutes-transcript/

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So, just as a logical exercise....if it's "irrational hatred" to call Griner "un-American" for doing something un-American, then wouldn't it also be irrational hatred to call Trump un-American for doing something un-American?

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Your logic is seriously screwed up. Brittney exercised her right of free speech, which is entirely American, whereas Trump actively courted and supported insurrection. Why is that so hard to understand?

Trying to reverse a legitimate election in Wisconsin is the most un-American thing I can imagine.

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You appear to be ignoring my questions but I'll try again: If Trump genuinely believed the election was stolen, what would be the American thing to do?

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incredible trump shoehorn on a baylor-related post. bravo, sir. it's funny how the folks that point and cry "trump cult" have their own little trump cult.

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No, I like American democracy where elections are free and not corrupted by a turd.

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your emotions about trump are fine, i just think it's strange you baited the hook with a griner title and then unloaded a trump rage. you do you.

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Trump is the real enemy. I don't know how any rational republican can support this turd.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/trump-fake-elector-wisconsin-60-minutes-video-2024-02-18/

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I've only ever voted for Trump because the neofascist Dems are the true enemies of America, and I will again if he is the nominee. There is also the matter of SCOTUS to consider. I see that many on the left are calling for Sotomayor to resign in order for Brandon to appoint someone younger. Tells you all you need to know. It's not about Trump.

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I find it amazing that Brittney Griner is called un-American when she exercises her right of free speech, when the real anti-American (Trump) gets a free pass from the ultra-right. The Trump crowd fits all the hallmarks of a cult, and I am a republican too. Sad to see what Trump has done to America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-fake-elector-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-phony-document-claiming-trump-won-60-minutes-transcript/

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So, just as a logical exercise....if it's "irrational hatred" to call Griner "un-American" for doing something un-American, then wouldn't it also be irrational hatred to call Trump un-American for doing something un-American?

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Your logic is seriously screwed up. Brittney exercised her right of free speech, which is entirely American, whereas Trump actively courted and supported insurrection. Why is that so hard to understand?

Trying to reverse a legitimate election in Wisconsin is the most un-American thing I can imagine.

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There was no "insurrection". Maneuvering to keep Trump off of ballots is un-American.

One-Eyed Wheeler said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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One-Eyed Wheeler said:

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I find it amazing that Brittney Griner is called un-American when she exercises her right of free speech, when the real anti-American (Trump) gets a free pass from the ultra-right. The Trump crowd fits all the hallmarks of a cult, and I am a republican too. Sad to see what Trump has done to America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-fake-elector-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-phony-document-claiming-trump-won-60-minutes-transcript/

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So, just as a logical exercise....if it's "irrational hatred" to call Griner "un-American" for doing something un-American, then wouldn't it also be irrational hatred to call Trump un-American for doing something un-American?

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Your logic is seriously screwed up. Brittney exercised her right of free speech, which is entirely American, whereas Trump actively courted and supported insurrection. Why is that so hard to understand?

Trying to reverse a legitimate election in Wisconsin is the most un-American thing I can imagine.

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So when Algore did the same in Florida that was or was not un-American?

Is it un-American to challenge the results of an election? If so, there are a ton of un-American politicians roaming around. Killary evaluated legal action to challenge the 2016 legitimate election but fell short of filing. At what point in the continuum does it go from American to un-American?

Certainly, you can agree that it was un-American of Killary to call a legitimately elected president - illegitimate?
If using free speech is American, can the classification change to un-American based on the words used? If so, who gets to decide? For example, a KKK rally. By your definition - American - just a bunch of whites talking freely. Others see it as un-American due to the subject of the speech.

Certainly you can understand how millions of Americans think it is un-American to bash our country with words and then kneel during the National Anthem.

One-Eyed Wheeler said:

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Cobretti said:

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incredible trump shoehorn on a baylor-related post. bravo, sir. it's funny how the folks that point and cry "trump cult" have their own little trump cult.

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No, I like American democracy where elections are free and not corrupted by a turd.

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Then I assume you are for stricter voter verificaion laws - photo ids, limited mail-in ballots, ending of ballot harvesting, paper ballots that can be traced and used to verify computer results, that sort of thing?

Kingdom Bear said:

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One-Eyed Wheeler said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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One-Eyed Wheeler said:

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I find it amazing that Brittney Griner is called un-American when she exercises her right of free speech, when the real anti-American (Trump) gets a free pass from the ultra-right. The Trump crowd fits all the hallmarks of a cult, and I am a republican too. Sad to see what Trump has done to America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-fake-elector-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-phony-document-claiming-trump-won-60-minutes-transcript/

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So, just as a logical exercise....if it's "irrational hatred" to call Griner "un-American" for doing something un-American, then wouldn't it also be irrational hatred to call Trump un-American for doing something un-American?

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Your logic is seriously screwed up. Brittney exercised her right of free speech, which is entirely American, whereas Trump actively courted and supported insurrection. Why is that so hard to understand?

Trying to reverse a legitimate election in Wisconsin is the most un-American thing I can imagine.

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You appear to be ignoring my questions but I'll try again: If Trump genuinely believed the election was stolen, what would be the American thing to do?

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The American thing to do is appeal. He did that. Got recounts. Didn't like the results. Appealed. Lost. Didn't like the results.

It's un American to not accept defeat. Every 4 years, someone loses. Every two years, a Congressman candidate loses. I've never seen a targeted attempt to disenfranchise millions of minority voters. And yes, I'm playing the race card.

They didn't recount Wisconsin. They recounted Milwaukee. Went after Philadelphia not Pennsylvania. Went after Atlanta not red Georgia.

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Cobretti said:

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incredible trump shoehorn on a baylor-related post. bravo, sir. it's funny how the folks that point and cry "trump cult" have their own little trump cult.

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No, I like American democracy where elections are free and not corrupted by a turd.

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Then I assume you are for stricter voter verificaion laws - photo ids, limited mail-in ballots, ending of ballot harvesting, paper ballots that can be traced and used to verify computer results, that sort of thing?

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That's all poppycock. Republicans can mail in ballets, too. Can cut absentee. Paper ballots are less safe than electronic.

I watched the Iowa caucuses. No call to end that harvesting. The problem isn't the process. It's their process that you don't like as if yours is better.

There are states that have 100% mail in ballots. No problems.

ron.reagan said:

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Trump is the real enemy. I don't know how any rational republican can support this turd.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/trump-fake-elector-wisconsin-60-minutes-video-2024-02-18/

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It's been a slow evolution of voting based on your identity and not political ideology or shared moral values. It's also why conservative immigrants tend to vote liberal despite their actual political beliefs.

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liberals love them some identity politics

Sadly, the GOP seems to love it now too

Vote independent!

I could care less what she said. I care that her weed was so important to her it ended up getting one of the world's worst arms dealer out of prison. Having seen first hand some of the carnage his handy work has sewn, respectfully I say, **** Brittany Griner.

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I could care less what she said. I care that her weed was so important to her it ended up getting one of the world's worst arms dealer out of prison. Having seen first hand some of the carnage his handy work has sewn, respectfully I say, **** Brittany Griner.

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I am so confused. It is un-American to bash Brittany for using her free speech but you just used your free speech thereby transforming you back into an American.

Oh and Trump!

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One-Eyed Wheeler said:

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I find it amazing that Brittney Griner is called un-American when she exercises her right of free speech, when the real anti-American (Trump) gets a free pass from the ultra-right. The Trump crowd fits all the hallmarks of a cult, and I am a republican too. Sad to see what Trump has done to America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-fake-elector-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-phony-document-claiming-trump-won-60-minutes-transcript/

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Trump is anti-American? The man is a lot of things (some not good) but he does love our country.

Sounds like the drinking water in Naperville has finally brainwashed you.

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What has Trump ever done that makes you believe he loves America? He started as a draft dodger, spent years ad a b-list celebrity and built a political career built on division. His foreign policy is built on weakening our influence throughout the world.

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What about the extreme apathy toward Britney Griner? Thats the camp that i'm in. I could not care less about her or girls basketball in general.

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Independent?

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I could care less what she said. I care that her weed was so important to her it ended up getting one of the world's worst arms dealer out of prison. Having seen first hand some of the carnage his handy work has sewn, respectfully I say, **** Brittany Griner.

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Blaming Grier for the terms of her release isn't quote rational.

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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I find it amazing that Brittney Griner is called un-American when she exercises her right of free speech, when the real anti-American (Trump) gets a free pass from the ultra-right. The Trump crowd fits all the hallmarks of a cult, and I am a republican too. Sad to see what Trump has done to America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-fake-elector-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-phony-document-claiming-trump-won-60-minutes-transcript/

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So, just as a logical exercise....if it's "irrational hatred" to call Griner "un-American" for doing something un-American, then wouldn't it also be irrational hatred to call Trump un-American for doing something un-American?

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Your logic is seriously screwed up. Brittney exercised her right of free speech, which is entirely American, whereas Trump actively courted and supported insurrection. Why is that so hard to understand?

Trying to reverse a legitimate election in Wisconsin is the most un-American thing I can imagine.

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So when Algore did the same in Florida that was or was not un-American?

Is it un-American to challenge the results of an election? If so, there are a ton of un-American politicians roaming around. Killary evaluated legal action to challenge the 2016 legitimate election but fell short of filing. At what point in the continuum does it go from American to un-American?

Certainly, you can agree that it was un-American of Killary to call a legitimately elected president - illegitimate?
If using free speech is American, can the classification change to un-American based on the words used? If so, who gets to decide? For example, a KKK rally. By your definition - American - just a bunch of whites talking freely. Others see it as un-American due to the subject of the speech.

Certainly you can understand how millions of Americans think it is un-American to bash our country with words and then kneel during the National Anthem.

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What Al Gore did was a legitimate use of the courts. That you can't see that is disturbing. KKK rallies and Nazi rallies are protected free speech, see Skokie IL in the 70's. The ACLU defended the Nazi marches.

What Trump did in Wisconsin, is not legitimate, and he might go to prison for it and should.

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I could care less what she said. I care that her weed was so important to her it ended up getting one of the world's worst arms dealer out of prison. Having seen first hand some of the carnage his handy work has sewn, respectfully I say, **** Brittany Griner.

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Blaming Grier for the terms of her release isn't quote rational.

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Using public political pressure for your release does. Decisions like that have consequences, and in this case they were the worst kind.

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Trump is the real enemy. I don't know how any rational republican can support this turd.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/trump-fake-elector-wisconsin-60-minutes-video-2024-02-18/

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I see that many on the left are calling for Sotomayor to resign in order for Brandon to appoint someone younger.

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I'm confident that Brandon would nominate someone he didn't realize has been dead for 26 years.

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I find it amazing that Brittney Griner is called un-American when she exercises her right of free speech, when the real anti-American (Trump) gets a free pass from the ultra-right. The Trump crowd fits all the hallmarks of a cult, and I am a republican too. Sad to see what Trump has done to America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-fake-elector-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-phony-document-claiming-trump-won-60-minutes-transcript/

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You see straight. It's probably because you only have one eye

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Keep the cork on the fork, Ruprecht.

You mean anti American like our current inept President? Now those folks are anti american. They are more for themselves than our country.

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I could care less what she said. I care that her weed was so important to her it ended up getting one of the world's worst arms dealer out of prison. Having seen first hand some of the carnage his handy work has sewn, respectfully I say, **** Brittany Griner.

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Blaming Grier for the terms of her release isn't quote rational.

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Then how about we blame Griner for putting herself in position to get arrested in the first place?

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I find it amazing that Brittney Griner is called un-American when she exercises her right of free speech, when the real anti-American (Trump) gets a free pass from the ultra-right. The Trump crowd fits all the hallmarks of a cult, and I am a republican too. Sad to see what Trump has done to America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wisconsin-fake-elector-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-phony-document-claiming-trump-won-60-minutes-transcript/

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So, just as a logical exercise....if it's "irrational hatred" to call Griner "un-American" for doing something un-American, then wouldn't it also be irrational hatred to call Trump un-American for doing something un-American?

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Your logic is seriously screwed up. Brittney exercised her right of free speech, which is entirely American, whereas Trump actively courted and supported insurrection. Why is that so hard to understand?

Trying to reverse a legitimate election in Wisconsin is the most un-American thing I can imagine.

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So when Algore did the same in Florida that was or was not un-American?

Is it un-American to challenge the results of an election? If so, there are a ton of un-American politicians roaming around. Killary evaluated legal action to challenge the 2016 legitimate election but fell short of filing. At what point in the continuum does it go from American to un-American?

Certainly, you can agree that it was un-American of Killary to call a legitimately elected president - illegitimate?
If using free speech is American, can the classification change to un-American based on the words used? If so, who gets to decide? For example, a KKK rally. By your definition - American - just a bunch of whites talking freely. Others see it as un-American due to the subject of the speech.

Certainly you can understand how millions of Americans think it is un-American to bash our country with words and then kneel during the National Anthem.

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What Al Gore did was a legitimate use of the courts. That you can't see that is disturbing. KKK rallies and Nazi rallies are protected free speech, see Skokie IL in the 70's. The ACLU defended the Nazi marches.

What Trump did in Wisconsin, is not legitimate, and he might go to prison for it and should.

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Bull***** Read the Supreme Court's opinion . . . Algore's actions were unconstitutional. Certainly we agree that something unconstitutional is un-American.

Continuing, so all protected speech is "American" in your opinion?