FIFYAliceinbubbleland said:
I just hate the fact we have a choice between these two candidates.
I do think this has become a very weak case against Trump and was probably overreach by NYC DA. But when you surround yourself with slime like Cohen this is what happens. when you are a republican.
Aliceinbubbleland said:
I do think this has become a very weak case against Trump and was probably overreach by NYC DA.
I've watched most of the coverage and "very weak" is pretty generous.Aliceinbubbleland said:
I just hate the fact we have a choice between these two candidates.
I do think this has become a very weak case against Trump and was probably overreach by NYC DA. But when you surround yourself with slime like Cohen this is what happens.
Most men can understand your point.Doc Holliday said:
Do you two not realize how fu kn bad Biden's presidency has been? He's the worst president in history...by a LONG SHOT.
We all know what we're going to get with Trump and its lightyears ahead and better than the bs Bush, Obama and Biden has put us through.
I don't' know how you can say such things!redfish961 said:I've watched most of the coverage and "very weak" is pretty generous.Aliceinbubbleland said:
I just hate the fact we have a choice between these two candidates.
I do think this has become a very weak case against Trump and was probably overreach by NYC DA. But when you surround yourself with slime like Cohen this is what happens.
If I was on the jury it would be nonexistant.
I keep watching to see if the prosecutors will get to the charge, but it hasn't happened for me.
Truly seems absurd and we all get to pay for it.
People that don't care that Biden molested his own daughter won't care about any of those facts.ShooterTX said:I don't' know how you can say such things!redfish961 said:I've watched most of the coverage and "very weak" is pretty generous.Aliceinbubbleland said:
I just hate the fact we have a choice between these two candidates.
I do think this has become a very weak case against Trump and was probably overreach by NYC DA. But when you surround yourself with slime like Cohen this is what happens.
If I was on the jury it would be nonexistant.
I keep watching to see if the prosecutors will get to the charge, but it hasn't happened for me.
Truly seems absurd and we all get to pay for it.
Clearly this is the most perfect and justifiably case, in all of human history.... brought to you by the same people who created the most safe, secure and accountable election in human history. LOL
81 million votes, my ass!
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Hard core repubs that toe the party line.no matter what.
Mothra said:Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Hard core repubs that toe the party line.no matter what.
I know a number of "hard core" Republicans who voted DeSantis in the primary.
The reason we got Trump wasn't hard core republicans. It was Trumpsters, of which there are many, unfortunately.
If you want to see "cultish" in action, look at the neverTrumpers......FLBear5630 said:Mothra said:Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Hard core repubs that toe the party line.no matter what.
I know a number of "hard core" Republicans who voted DeSantis in the primary.
The reason we got Trump wasn't hard core republicans. It was Trumpsters, of which there are many, unfortunately.
It is sort of cultish.
A number of Republicans, including Speaker Johnson and some of his leadership team have gone to the courthouse in NYC to make supportive comments.KaiBear said:
Anyone notice the deafening silence from the Republican party leadership while Trump goes through still another manipulated legal attack ?
They want Trump to crumble.
Hope DeSantis hasn't made too many promises.
He could still end up getting the Republican nomination; to the secrete delight of most mainstream Republicans ( and independents )
whiterock said:A number of Republicans, including Speaker Johnson and some of his leadership team have gone to the courthouse in NYC to make supportive comments.KaiBear said:
Anyone notice the deafening silence from the Republican party leadership while Trump goes through still another manipulated legal attack ?
They want Trump to crumble.
Hope DeSantis hasn't made too many promises.
He could still end up getting the Republican nomination; to the secrete delight of most mainstream Republicans ( and independents )
I see the party rallying around Trump, in no small part because most understand they are next if Dems are successful in taking him out with lawfare.
KaiBear said:whiterock said:A number of Republicans, including Speaker Johnson and some of his leadership team have gone to the courthouse in NYC to make supportive comments.KaiBear said:
Anyone notice the deafening silence from the Republican party leadership while Trump goes through still another manipulated legal attack ?
They want Trump to crumble.
Hope DeSantis hasn't made too many promises.
He could still end up getting the Republican nomination; to the secrete delight of most mainstream Republicans ( and independents )
I see the party rallying around Trump, in no small part because most understand they are next if Dems are successful in taking him out with lawfare.
Unaware of any governors, senators , or big Republican donors publicly / vehemently defending Trump.
The party clearly has an ambivalence toward him and many would not be sorry to see him get convicted.
Might be the biggest favor possible to Republican chances in November .
Trump the martyr and DeSantis the president.
I think the level of lawfare and abuse of power has also had a very chilling affect. There are a lot of people who have a lot to lose, so they will remain quiet as they do not want to be next.KaiBear said:whiterock said:A number of Republicans, including Speaker Johnson and some of his leadership team have gone to the courthouse in NYC to make supportive comments.KaiBear said:
Anyone notice the deafening silence from the Republican party leadership while Trump goes through still another manipulated legal attack ?
They want Trump to crumble.
Hope DeSantis hasn't made too many promises.
He could still end up getting the Republican nomination; to the secrete delight of most mainstream Republicans ( and independents )
I see the party rallying around Trump, in no small part because most understand they are next if Dems are successful in taking him out with lawfare.
Unaware of any governors, senators , or big Republican donors publicly / vehemently defending Trump.
The party clearly has an ambivalence toward him and many would not be sorry to see him get convicted.
Might be the biggest favor possible to Republican chances in November .
Trump the martyr and DeSantis the president.
Just like the Never TrumpersFLBear5630 said:Mothra said:Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Hard core repubs that toe the party line.no matter what.
I know a number of "hard core" Republicans who voted DeSantis in the primary.
The reason we got Trump wasn't hard core republicans. It was Trumpsters, of which there are many, unfortunately.
It is sort of cultish.
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."Wangchung said:
This is why I hate the mainstream media. Trump is a terrible public speaker but if I don't watch his speeches for myself I get nothing but lies and parsed statements given meaning he never implied. So the corrupt media forces me to suffer through the entirety of his speeches so I don't believe lies like "he called all Mexicans rapists!" and "He said Nazis were very fine people!!!"
Actually, the Speaker of the House and several Senators showed up to court to support him, and the vast majority have spoken out against the lawfare against him.KaiBear said:
Anyone notice the deafening silence from the Republican party leadership while Trump goes through still another manipulated legal attack ?
They want Trump to crumble.
Hope DeSantis hasn't made too many promises.
He could still end up getting the Republican nomination; to the secrete delight of most mainstream Republicans ( and independents )
Vote for a guy that probably slept with a porn star when he wasn't president or vote for a guy who has had a lifelong career in politics with no real accomplishments who is actively killing our country and our way of life in favor of special interest groups that would rather rule by ideology than sound policies and has zero problem weaponizing law to protect its own power.Frank Galvin said:KaiBear said:whiterock said:A number of Republicans, including Speaker Johnson and some of his leadership team have gone to the courthouse in NYC to make supportive comments.KaiBear said:
Anyone notice the deafening silence from the Republican party leadership while Trump goes through still another manipulated legal attack ?
They want Trump to crumble.
Hope DeSantis hasn't made too many promises.
He could still end up getting the Republican nomination; to the secrete delight of most mainstream Republicans ( and independents )
I see the party rallying around Trump, in no small part because most understand they are next if Dems are successful in taking him out with lawfare.
Unaware of any governors, senators , or big Republican donors publicly / vehemently defending Trump.
The party clearly has an ambivalence toward him and many would not be sorry to see him get convicted.
Might be the biggest favor possible to Republican chances in November .
Trump the martyr and DeSantis the president.
Several senators were there early this week on bender knee.
But more importantly what would they be rushing to defend? "I am here to champion the guy who slept with the porn star and covered it up because it's clear that is a misdemeanor rather than a felony" is just not the sort of issue the family values party needs to rally on.
Yeah defending family values is so 60s. Leftists have the answers. Defund the police, open the borders, add another TRILLION dollars in debt every ONE HUNDRED DAYS, over 100,000 drug overdoses every year. mutilate kids, abortion for any or no reason until the babys head passes throught the birthing canal.Frank Galvin said:KaiBear said:whiterock said:A number of Republicans, including Speaker Johnson and some of his leadership team have gone to the courthouse in NYC to make supportive comments.KaiBear said:
Anyone notice the deafening silence from the Republican party leadership while Trump goes through still another manipulated legal attack ?
They want Trump to crumble.
Hope DeSantis hasn't made too many promises.
He could still end up getting the Republican nomination; to the secrete delight of most mainstream Republicans ( and independents )
I see the party rallying around Trump, in no small part because most understand they are next if Dems are successful in taking him out with lawfare.
Unaware of any governors, senators , or big Republican donors publicly / vehemently defending Trump.
The party clearly has an ambivalence toward him and many would not be sorry to see him get convicted.
Might be the biggest favor possible to Republican chances in November .
Trump the martyr and DeSantis the president.
Several senators were there early this week on bender knee.
But more importantly what would they be rushing to defend? "I am here to champion the guy who slept with the porn star and covered it up because it's clear that is a misdemeanor rather than a felony" is just not the sort of issue the family values party needs to rally on.
KaiBear said:Yeah defending family values is so 60s. Leftists have the answers. Defund the police, open the borders, add another TRILLION dollars in debt every ONE HUNDRED DAYS, over 100,000 drug overdoses every year. mutilate kids, abortion for any or no reason until the babys head passes throught the birthing canal.Frank Galvin said:KaiBear said:whiterock said:A number of Republicans, including Speaker Johnson and some of his leadership team have gone to the courthouse in NYC to make supportive comments.KaiBear said:
Anyone notice the deafening silence from the Republican party leadership while Trump goes through still another manipulated legal attack ?
They want Trump to crumble.
Hope DeSantis hasn't made too many promises.
He could still end up getting the Republican nomination; to the secrete delight of most mainstream Republicans ( and independents )
I see the party rallying around Trump, in no small part because most understand they are next if Dems are successful in taking him out with lawfare.
Unaware of any governors, senators , or big Republican donors publicly / vehemently defending Trump.
The party clearly has an ambivalence toward him and many would not be sorry to see him get convicted.
Might be the biggest favor possible to Republican chances in November .
Trump the martyr and DeSantis the president.
Several senators were there early this week on bender knee.
But more importantly what would they be rushing to defend? "I am here to champion the guy who slept with the porn star and covered it up because it's clear that is a misdemeanor rather than a felony" is just not the sort of issue the family values party needs to rally on.
I have no doubt Trumps convictions willing be overturned on appeal.
As a legendary attorney do you see the problems in upgrading charges to felonies in order to extend the statue of limitations ?
Of course you might believe its for the countrys own good to pass legislation to specifically target political opponents. Horrible thing to trust the ballot box right ?
Admits to selective prosecution of a political opponent; but it's the victim who is the threat to our ballot box ?Frank Galvin said:KaiBear said:Yeah defending family values is so 60s. Leftists have the answers. Defund the police, open the borders, add another TRILLION dollars in debt every ONE HUNDRED DAYS, over 100,000 drug overdoses every year. mutilate kids, abortion for any or no reason until the babys head passes throught the birthing canal.Frank Galvin said:KaiBear said:whiterock said:A number of Republicans, including Speaker Johnson and some of his leadership team have gone to the courthouse in NYC to make supportive comments.KaiBear said:
Anyone notice the deafening silence from the Republican party leadership while Trump goes through still another manipulated legal attack ?
They want Trump to crumble.
Hope DeSantis hasn't made too many promises.
He could still end up getting the Republican nomination; to the secrete delight of most mainstream Republicans ( and independents )
I see the party rallying around Trump, in no small part because most understand they are next if Dems are successful in taking him out with lawfare.
Unaware of any governors, senators , or big Republican donors publicly / vehemently defending Trump.
The party clearly has an ambivalence toward him and many would not be sorry to see him get convicted.
Might be the biggest favor possible to Republican chances in November .
Trump the martyr and DeSantis the president.
Several senators were there early this week on bender knee.
But more importantly what would they be rushing to defend? "I am here to champion the guy who slept with the porn star and covered it up because it's clear that is a misdemeanor rather than a felony" is just not the sort of issue the family values party needs to rally on.
I have no doubt Trumps convictions willing be overturned on appeal.
As a legendary attorney do you see the problems in upgrading charges to felonies in order to extend the statue of limitations ?
Of course you might believe its for the countrys own good to pass legislation to specifically target political opponents. Horrible thing to trust the ballot box right ?
Trust the ballot box and supporting Trump are rivers that don't meet.
Edit: and yes I think this particular case is selective prosecution that devalues Jack Smith's cases and the Georgia case. It might be winnable but if I was the DA I would not have brought it.
That's a lie. He said some of the ones coming ILLEGALLY are criminals, including rapists. It's right there in the quote you provided. And he is right. Good people follow the law and come legally. People with zero respect for our laws or who wouldn't be allowed to come legally cross illegally.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."Wangchung said:
This is why I hate the mainstream media. Trump is a terrible public speaker but if I don't watch his speeches for myself I get nothing but lies and parsed statements given meaning he never implied. So the corrupt media forces me to suffer through the entirety of his speeches so I don't believe lies like "he called all Mexicans rapists!" and "He said Nazis were very fine people!!!"
You are correct. He didnt call all Mexicans rapists. Just the ones coming to America. But of course some of them are good people despite bringing drugs, crime and rape.
Trump won a legit election in 2016.Frank Galvin said:KaiBear said:Yeah defending family values is so 60s. Leftists have the answers. Defund the police, open the borders, add another TRILLION dollars in debt every ONE HUNDRED DAYS, over 100,000 drug overdoses every year. mutilate kids, abortion for any or no reason until the babys head passes throught the birthing canal.Frank Galvin said:KaiBear said:whiterock said:A number of Republicans, including Speaker Johnson and some of his leadership team have gone to the courthouse in NYC to make supportive comments.KaiBear said:
Anyone notice the deafening silence from the Republican party leadership while Trump goes through still another manipulated legal attack ?
They want Trump to crumble.
Hope DeSantis hasn't made too many promises.
He could still end up getting the Republican nomination; to the secrete delight of most mainstream Republicans ( and independents )
I see the party rallying around Trump, in no small part because most understand they are next if Dems are successful in taking him out with lawfare.
Unaware of any governors, senators , or big Republican donors publicly / vehemently defending Trump.
The party clearly has an ambivalence toward him and many would not be sorry to see him get convicted.
Might be the biggest favor possible to Republican chances in November .
Trump the martyr and DeSantis the president.
Several senators were there early this week on bender knee.
But more importantly what would they be rushing to defend? "I am here to champion the guy who slept with the porn star and covered it up because it's clear that is a misdemeanor rather than a felony" is just not the sort of issue the family values party needs to rally on.
I have no doubt Trumps convictions willing be overturned on appeal.
As a legendary attorney do you see the problems in upgrading charges to felonies in order to extend the statue of limitations ?
Of course you might believe its for the countrys own good to pass legislation to specifically target political opponents. Horrible thing to trust the ballot box right ?
Trust the ballot box and supporting Trump are rivers that don't meet.
Edit: and yes I think this particular case is selective prosecution that devalues Jack Smith's cases and the Georgia case. It might be winnable but if I was the DA I would not have brought it.
Still, I'd much more prefer to be on "bender knee" than to "prostate" myself. Yowzers!EatMoreSalmon said:
Good thing no one is rushing to Biden's defense every time he is accused of something or falls down the stairs. Does that mean that all those people are cultish about Biden and go to him with sacrifices of ice cream and foreign contacts?
One can support the fact that this trial is out of line and not be going to Trump on "bender knee" [sic].
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You can not prostate yourself for Trump and still vote for him and say Biden is worse.
Whiskey Pete said:Just like the Never TrumpersFLBear5630 said:Mothra said:Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Hard core repubs that toe the party line.no matter what.
I know a number of "hard core" Republicans who voted DeSantis in the primary.
The reason we got Trump wasn't hard core republicans. It was Trumpsters, of which there are many, unfortunately.
It is sort of cultish.
So who are the bad choices and who is the best?FLBear5630 said:Whiskey Pete said:Just like the Never TrumpersFLBear5630 said:Mothra said:Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Hard core repubs that toe the party line.no matter what.
I know a number of "hard core" Republicans who voted DeSantis in the primary.
The reason we got Trump wasn't hard core republicans. It was Trumpsters, of which there are many, unfortunately.
It is sort of cultish.
Different is when push comes to shove they will vote Trump. MAGA will burn the whole thing down rather than support the best of bad choices.
They (the people that cross the border) are rapist. Who else could he be talking about? Good people do follow the laws. A man with a family finally decides he cant feed and provide for his children. He does what he needs to do. Some laws are above others. Its cost an average of 4000 to 8000 usd to try to immigrate. And the wait can be years. I know you have never broken a law but sometimes a man does what a man does. We need immigration reform. Both parties have failed.Wangchung said:That's a lie. He said some of the ones coming ILLEGALLY are criminals, including rapists. It's right there in the quote you provided. And he is right. Good people follow the law and come legally. People with zero respect for our laws or who wouldn't be allowed to come legally cross illegally.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."Wangchung said:
This is why I hate the mainstream media. Trump is a terrible public speaker but if I don't watch his speeches for myself I get nothing but lies and parsed statements given meaning he never implied. So the corrupt media forces me to suffer through the entirety of his speeches so I don't believe lies like "he called all Mexicans rapists!" and "He said Nazis were very fine people!!!"
You are correct. He didnt call all Mexicans rapists. Just the ones coming to America. But of course some of them are good people despite bringing drugs, crime and rape.
