One-Eyed Wheeler said:
https://baptistnews.com/article/whats-happening-to-megachurch-pastors-in-dallas/
Wonder how many Baylor grads go to Gateway? Such a weird church.
J.R. said:
NO THANKS to Both. Waterworld seems odd from what I know. Oddly enough , I have lived in Dallas my entire life, basically. I do not know anyone who goes to Prestonworld, Waterworld, FBC Dallas. Just find it odd.
yes, I know him. Mega Churches are just not my thing. I just don't get the mega church deal. just don't . Better ways to contribute to the Kingdom IMO.Redbrickbear said:J.R. said:
NO THANKS to Both. Waterworld seems odd from what I know. Oddly enough , I have lived in Dallas my entire life, basically. I do not know anyone who goes to Prestonworld, Waterworld, FBC Dallas. Just find it odd.
You didn't know our Regent Neal Jeffrey?
[Neal Jeffrey: Jeffrey is associate pastor of pastoral and preaching ministries at Prestonwood Baptist Church, a megachurch in Plano, Texas, with more than 41,000 members.]
you didn't know Ken Paxton was a Baylor guy? He is disgusting.Redbrickbear said:J.R. said:
NO THANKS to Both. Waterworld seems odd from what I know. Oddly enough , I have lived in Dallas my entire life, basically. I do not know anyone who goes to Prestonworld, Waterworld, FBC Dallas. Just find it odd.
You didn't know our Regent Neal Jeffrey?
[Neal Jeffrey: Jeffrey is associate pastor of pastoral and preaching ministries at Prestonwood Baptist Church, a megachurch in Plano, Texas, with more than 41,000 members.]
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Soros is like Santa Claus.
He is everywhere. Like magic
Article lost me when it described Southlake, Texas, as "Ground Zero for the Christian nationalist movement to take over school boards and ban books." Laughed out loud at that one.One-Eyed Wheeler said:
https://baptistnews.com/article/whats-happening-to-megachurch-pastors-in-dallas/
Wonder how many Baylor grads go to Gateway? Such a weird church.
Where do you go?J.R. said:
NO THANKS to Both. Waterworld seems odd from what I know. Oddly enough , I have lived in Dallas my entire life, basically. I do not know anyone who goes to Prestonworld, Waterworld, FBC Dallas. Just find it odd.
I go to a small church by Texas standards. Maybe 200 people total. Pastor is a nice man. Doesn't have the gift of teaching or preaching, but a good man. Has a small band and a small choir. Not very good, but good people. Youth group is pretty strong, which is the main reason we attend. Our kids have friends there and the youth pastor is solid. But there is a reason the church only has 200 people. I just described them. I just described most small churches.J.R. said:yes, I know him. Mega Churches are just not my thing. I just don't get the mega church deal. just don't . Better ways to contribute to the Kingdom IMO.Redbrickbear said:J.R. said:
NO THANKS to Both. Waterworld seems odd from what I know. Oddly enough , I have lived in Dallas my entire life, basically. I do not know anyone who goes to Prestonworld, Waterworld, FBC Dallas. Just find it odd.
You didn't know our Regent Neal Jeffrey?
[Neal Jeffrey: Jeffrey is associate pastor of pastoral and preaching ministries at Prestonwood Baptist Church, a megachurch in Plano, Texas, with more than 41,000 members.]
Rivian was not such a good investmentRedbrickbear said:Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Soros is like Santa Claus.
He is everywhere. Like magic
He is of course not….he is just an old Hungarian Jew in a nursing facility at this point.
But his money is everywhere thanks to the joys of global unrestricted Capital moment.
His foundations (like Fords) will be funding leftist projects, ideologies, anti-speech campaigns, laws, and more for decades after is death
And his son (who is hard to believe more radical than he is) is young and will be around for decades more as well unfortunately.
And where their money influences they take the side of internationalism, authoritarianism, and liberalism…against nationalism, popular democracy, and localism
Southlake is a very strange place, imo.Mothra said:Article lost me when it described Southlake, Texas, as "Ground Zero for the Christian nationalist movement to take over school boards and ban books." Please.One-Eyed Wheeler said:
https://baptistnews.com/article/whats-happening-to-megachurch-pastors-in-dallas/
Wonder how many Baylor grads go to Gateway? Such a weird church.
Yes, it has those bogeyman Christian nationalists that Biden has been warning us about. They are certainly a threat! Right up there with all those nutty white supremacists that are a huge threat to our freedoms.One-Eyed Wheeler said:Southlake is a very strange place, imo.Mothra said:Article lost me when it described Southlake, Texas, as "Ground Zero for the Christian nationalist movement to take over school boards and ban books." Please.One-Eyed Wheeler said:
https://baptistnews.com/article/whats-happening-to-megachurch-pastors-in-dallas/
Wonder how many Baylor grads go to Gateway? Such a weird church.
I'm a member at Park Cities Presbyterian , but I moslyt attend Reunion Church downtown . Preacher man Richard is about a solid as you can get. He and his family has lived it for 25yrs. They live downtown and raised 3 amazing kids . He doesn't fly in from the burbs to preach. Much respect. Great people. They bring on all comers, street folks, junkies, alcoholics, people just trying to make it. I call that doing the lords work (important to me). It is easy to go to church with a bunch of rich , white people, but it is different and they both have their merits. Just where I amMothra said:Where do you go?J.R. said:
NO THANKS to Both. Waterworld seems odd from what I know. Oddly enough , I have lived in Dallas my entire life, basically. I do not know anyone who goes to Prestonworld, Waterworld, FBC Dallas. Just find it odd.
I do understant. Not hating on anyone or where they need to be. You obviously have kids and that is important. Raised mine the same way. Seems you have found your spot. good for yall'Mothra said:I go to a small church by Texas standards. Maybe 200 people total. Pastor is a nice man. Doesn't have the gift of teaching or preaching, but a good man. Has a small band and a small choir. Not very good, but good people. Youth group is pretty strong, which is the main reason we attend. Our kids have friends there and the youth pastor is solid. But there is a reason the church only has 200 people. I just described them. I just described most small churches.J.R. said:yes, I know him. Mega Churches are just not my thing. I just don't get the mega church deal. just don't . Better ways to contribute to the Kingdom IMO.Redbrickbear said:J.R. said:
NO THANKS to Both. Waterworld seems odd from what I know. Oddly enough , I have lived in Dallas my entire life, basically. I do not know anyone who goes to Prestonworld, Waterworld, FBC Dallas. Just find it odd.
You didn't know our Regent Neal Jeffrey?
[Neal Jeffrey: Jeffrey is associate pastor of pastoral and preaching ministries at Prestonwood Baptist Church, a megachurch in Plano, Texas, with more than 41,000 members.]
Attended a large church when we lived in Dallas. Had amazing teaching, and good music, though I prefer the hymns to the worship band. But I certainly understand why people are attracted to it. It makes sense. When you get fed on a weekly basis by a good teacher, and you attend a place that touches you spiritually, it attracts others. That is why a lot of these mega churches have the attendance they do. It's going to typically have much better teaching and music, and a lot more programs for the kids.
The idea that you can't contribute to the kingdom as well at those churches is just silly. I learned much more at Watermark than I ever learned at my current church. Doesn't mean there isn't a place for small churches, or that one can't make a difference there.
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Soros is like Santa Claus.
He is everywhere. Like magic
One-Eyed Wheeler said:Rivian was not such a good investmentRedbrickbear said:Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Soros is like Santa Claus.
He is everywhere. Like magic
He is of course not….he is just an old Hungarian Jew in a nursing facility at this point.
But his money is everywhere thanks to the joys of global unrestricted Capital moment.
His foundations (like Fords) will be funding leftist projects, ideologies, anti-speech campaigns, laws, and more for decades after is death
And his son (who is hard to believe more radical than he is) is young and will be around for decades more as well unfortunately.
And where their money influences they take the side of internationalism, authoritarianism, and liberalism…against nationalism, popular democracy, and localism
J.R. said:I'm a member at Park Cities Presbyterian , but I moslyt attend Reunion Church downtown . Preacher man Richard is about a solid as you can get. He and his family has lived it for 25yrs. They live downtown and raised 3 amazing kids . He doesn't fly in from the burbs to preach. Much respect. Great people. They bring on all comers, street folks, junkies, alcoholics, people just trying to make it. I call that doing the lords work (important to me). It is easy to go to church with a bunch of rich , white people, but it is different and they both have their merits. Just where I amMothra said:Where do you go?J.R. said:
NO THANKS to Both. Waterworld seems odd from what I know. Oddly enough , I have lived in Dallas my entire life, basically. I do not know anyone who goes to Prestonworld, Waterworld, FBC Dallas. Just find it odd.
One of the more odd, Orwellian things the radical left does is make up these double-secret bogey men to scare low-information voters. "Christian nationalist" is one of the funnier fake bogey men that gets the LWNJs butthurt.Mothra said:Yes, it has those bogeyman Christian nationalists that Biden has been warning us about. They are certainly a threat! Right up there with all those nutty white supremacists that are a huge threat to our freedoms.One-Eyed Wheeler said:Southlake is a very strange place, imo.Mothra said:Article lost me when it described Southlake, Texas, as "Ground Zero for the Christian nationalist movement to take over school boards and ban books." Please.One-Eyed Wheeler said:
https://baptistnews.com/article/whats-happening-to-megachurch-pastors-in-dallas/
Wonder how many Baylor grads go to Gateway? Such a weird church.
And apparently not being on board with woke administrators and our kids reading porn in public schools is tantamount to banning books and taking over school boards.
LOL.
The author of this article is a complete idiot.
Only in places with high crime rates you will likely find a Soros-funded DA.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Soros is like Santa Claus.
He is everywhere. Like magic
I traditionally have had personal problems with megachurches, especially those with satellite campuses - seemed very un-Gospel like.sombear said:
I've never lived in Dallas and know nothing about these churches.
But there are as many failed and disgraced pastors in small churches, rural and urban. Pastors are flawed individuals like all of us, and they happen to have one of the most stressful and difficult jobs. And, yes, like many other professions, religion sometimes attracts frauds. None of this is limited to megachurches or churches or religion in general.
I've moved 10 times and joined 10 different churches, some small, some mega, and currently small-to-mid. I've attended an urban church where I was in the small minority and a rural church where there were few minorities and everything in between. They all have had their strengths and weaknesses. I've been fortunate that none have had major scandals, and I am confident all were led by good, well-intentioned, albeit imperfect, pastors.
My prior two churches were mega - one up north and one in Texas - both the largest churches in their area. They were perfect for us and our kids. So much to offer. But, frankly, that is backwards, as is much of the discussion on here. Rather than criticize or even evaluate, we should focus on what we are giving, what we are doing to contribute to the body.
And also, on what our churches are doing. One of the positives of a megachurch is the resources they have to help those in need. The two I attended, for example, had missions all over the world. They had urban missions here in the U.S. They had ministries/missions for recovering alcoholics/other addictions, divorcees, the unemployed, veterans, and more.
And, JR, we sometimes disagree, but I loved your post about Reunion and did some digging. Looks like a great church and I'll recommend my daughter and son-in-law (fairly new to Uptown) give it a shot. But I don't understand the shot at suburban pastors/churches. Lord knows suburbanites need Jesus as much or more than others.
Bring it. Richard is an amazing servant as his lovely wife. Good Bu peeps , btwMitch Blood Green said:J.R. said:I'm a member at Park Cities Presbyterian , but I moslyt attend Reunion Church downtown . Preacher man Richard is about a solid as you can get. He and his family has lived it for 25yrs. They live downtown and raised 3 amazing kids . He doesn't fly in from the burbs to preach. Much respect. Great people. They bring on all comers, street folks, junkies, alcoholics, people just trying to make it. I call that doing the lords work (important to me). It is easy to go to church with a bunch of rich , white people, but it is different and they both have their merits. Just where I amMothra said:Where do you go?J.R. said:
NO THANKS to Both. Waterworld seems odd from what I know. Oddly enough , I have lived in Dallas my entire life, basically. I do not know anyone who goes to Prestonworld, Waterworld, FBC Dallas. Just find it odd.
I'd fit in there.
great post. They are my neighbors! No offensive relative subaranban Megs. Let's just teach and enough with theatrics . Again, no offense. Also, if they need any help with Dallas , I'm here for them. Both of my kids live in the area.sombear said:
I've never lived in Dallas and know nothing about these churches.
But there are as many failed and disgraced pastors in small churches, rural and urban. Pastors are flawed individuals like all of us, and they happen to have one of the most stressful and difficult jobs. And, yes, like many other professions, religion sometimes attracts frauds. None of this is limited to megachurches or churches or religion in general.
I've moved 10 times and joined 10 different churches, some small, some mega, and currently small-to-mid. I've attended an urban church where I was in the small minority and a rural church where there were few minorities and everything in between. They all have had their strengths and weaknesses. I've been fortunate that none have had major scandals, and I am confident all were led by good, well-intentioned, albeit imperfect, pastors.
My prior two churches were mega - one up north and one in Texas - both the largest churches in their area. They were perfect for us and our kids. So much to offer. But, frankly, that is backwards, as is much of the discussion on here. Rather than criticize or even evaluate, we should focus on what we are giving, what we are doing to contribute to the body.
And also, on what our churches are doing. One of the positives of a megachurch is the resources they have to help those in need. The two I attended, for example, had missions all over the world. They had urban missions here in the U.S. They had ministries/missions for recovering alcoholics/other addictions, divorcees, the unemployed, veterans, and more.
And, JR, we sometimes disagree, but I loved your post about Reunion and did some digging. Looks like a great church and I'll recommend my daughter and son-in-law (fairly new to Uptown) give it a shot. But I don't understand the shot at suburban pastors/churches. Lord knows suburbanites need Jesus as much or more than others.
J.R. said:Bring it. Richard is an amazing servant as his lovely wife. Good Bu peeps , btwMitch Blood Green said:J.R. said:I'm a member at Park Cities Presbyterian , but I moslyt attend Reunion Church downtown . Preacher man Richard is about a solid as you can get. He and his family has lived it for 25yrs. They live downtown and raised 3 amazing kids . He doesn't fly in from the burbs to preach. Much respect. Great people. They bring on all comers, street folks, junkies, alcoholics, people just trying to make it. I call that doing the lords work (important to me). It is easy to go to church with a bunch of rich , white people, but it is different and they both have their merits. Just where I amMothra said:Where do you go?J.R. said:
NO THANKS to Both. Waterworld seems odd from what I know. Oddly enough , I have lived in Dallas my entire life, basically. I do not know anyone who goes to Prestonworld, Waterworld, FBC Dallas. Just find it odd.
I'd fit in there.
Know both churches well. I like what Reunion church is doing. But white upper middle class people need Jesus as well. The idea that one is better than the other because it serves the underprivileged just doesn't comport with the Gospels.J.R. said:I'm a member at Park Cities Presbyterian , but I moslyt attend Reunion Church downtown . Preacher man Richard is about a solid as you can get. He and his family has lived it for 25yrs. They live downtown and raised 3 amazing kids . He doesn't fly in from the burbs to preach. Much respect. Great people. They bring on all comers, street folks, junkies, alcoholics, people just trying to make it. I call that doing the lords work (important to me). It is easy to go to church with a bunch of rich , white people, but it is different and they both have their merits. Just where I amMothra said:Where do you go?J.R. said:
NO THANKS to Both. Waterworld seems odd from what I know. Oddly enough , I have lived in Dallas my entire life, basically. I do not know anyone who goes to Prestonworld, Waterworld, FBC Dallas. Just find it odd.
Well said, especially the last few sentences.sombear said:
I've never lived in Dallas and know nothing about these churches.
But there are as many failed and disgraced pastors in small churches, rural and urban. Pastors are flawed individuals like all of us, and they happen to have one of the most stressful and difficult jobs. And, yes, like many other professions, religion sometimes attracts frauds. None of this is limited to megachurches or churches or religion in general.
I've moved 10 times and joined 10 different churches, some small, some mega, and currently small-to-mid. I've attended an urban church where I was in the small minority and a rural church where there were few minorities and everything in between. They all have had their strengths and weaknesses. I've been fortunate that none have had major scandals, and I am confident all were led by good, well-intentioned, albeit imperfect, pastors.
My prior two churches were mega - one up north and one in Texas - both the largest churches in their area. They were perfect for us and our kids. So much to offer. But, frankly, that is backwards, as is much of the discussion on here. Rather than criticize or even evaluate, we should focus on what we are giving, what we are doing to contribute to the body.
And also, on what our churches are doing. One of the positives of a megachurch is the resources they have to help those in need. The two I attended, for example, had missions all over the world. They had urban missions here in the U.S. They had ministries/missions for recovering alcoholics/other addictions, divorcees, the unemployed, veterans, and more.
And, JR, we sometimes disagree, but I loved your post about Reunion and did some digging. Looks like a great church and I'll recommend my daughter and son-in-law (fairly new to Uptown) give it a shot. But I don't understand the shot at suburban pastors/churches. Lord knows suburbanites need Jesus as much or more than others.
Mothra said:Know both churches well. I like what Reunion church is doing. But white upper middle class people need Jesus as well. The idea that one is better than the other because it serves the underprivileged just doesn't comport with the Gospels.J.R. said:I'm a member at Park Cities Presbyterian , but I moslyt attend Reunion Church downtown . Preacher man Richard is about a solid as you can get. He and his family has lived it for 25yrs. They live downtown and raised 3 amazing kids . He doesn't fly in from the burbs to preach. Much respect. Great people. They bring on all comers, street folks, junkies, alcoholics, people just trying to make it. I call that doing the lords work (important to me). It is easy to go to church with a bunch of rich , white people, but it is different and they both have their merits. Just where I amMothra said:Where do you go?J.R. said:
NO THANKS to Both. Waterworld seems odd from what I know. Oddly enough , I have lived in Dallas my entire life, basically. I do not know anyone who goes to Prestonworld, Waterworld, FBC Dallas. Just find it odd.
