New Mouth-breather Bogeyman: 2025 Project

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Harrison Bergeron
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Has anyone's social media feed been filled with their LWNJ friends in histrionics over the Project 2025 plan that will lead us all into The Handmaid's Tale? I was told it will outlaw gay marriage and not allow women to get divorces.

The document is here: I could not find "divorce" in the document and nothing about opposing gay marriage but rather protecting organizations that do not condone it like Catholic Charities.
J.R.
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Hank, please don't be scared of the boogey man. live your life, man!
Doc Holliday
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It's the leftwing's creation of a rightwing version of the Green New Deal, except with zero political support.
ATL Bear
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It has some good principles, but way too heavy handed with government force. For example, outlawing porn (regular not child, etc.) and incarcerating producers and distributors. Good luck with that constitutionally.
Harrison Bergeron
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I just think it is funny watching the red meat talking points and related disinformation move around social media. It is the new scary bogeyman to distract the low information voters from Biden and his record.
Doc Holliday
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muddybrazos
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If we could get even half of project 2025 done that would be fantastic. I will settle for just putting John Mcentee back in charge of the Trump white house.
ShooterTX
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Anyone on the left, who is still listening to either the Biden Admin, or their surrogates in the mainstream media... is just too stupid to be allowed to vote!

Just watch this entire segment.... it is just obvious that these people are totally untrustworthy liars!
Honestly, these people should be in jail for perpetuating this insane cover-up of Bidens dementia. They are completely un-American. They are traitors.




And yet, these people are trying to convince everyone that Project 2025 is the secret Trump plan. How can anyone be stupid enough to listen to these traitors from the leftwing media? George Clooney blew the lid off this "cheap fake" lie nonsense. CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times.... ALL of them are traitors who deserve real jailtime for not only perpetuating the lies, but for also calling the whistleblowers & truth-tellers liars and deceivers.

The left wing media & politicians are without any credibility anymore... except in the minds of the braindead idiots and the evil leftists who depend upon them.
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Robert Wilson
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Ben Shapiro handled the questions about this 2025 thing (whatever it is) well in the hearing yesterday.
Harrison Bergeron
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ShooterTX said:

Anyone on the left, who is still listening to either the Biden Admin, or their surrogates in the mainstream media... is just too stupid to be allowed to vote!

Just watch this entire segment.... it is just obvious that these people are totally untrustworthy liars!
Honestly, these people should be in jail for perpetuating this insane cover-up of Bidens dementia. They are completely un-American. They are traitors.




And yet, these people are trying to convince everyone that Project 2025 is the secret Trump plan. How can anyone be stupid enough to listen to these traitors from the leftwing media? George Clooney blew the lid off this "cheap fake" lie nonsense. CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times.... ALL of them are traitors who deserve real jailtime for not only perpetuating the lies, but for also calling the whistleblowers & truth-tellers liars and deceivers.

The left wing media & politicians are without any credibility anymore... except in the minds of the braindead idiots and the evil leftists who depend upon them.
Anyone who believes anything from the mainstream media deserves the disinformation they get at this point - maybe the largest, coordinated disinformation effort in world history.
boognish_bear
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Not sure how accurate this breakdown is...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/project-2025-tax-trump-economy-heritage-foundation-how-it-works/

A shift to two brackets

The tax proposals of Project 2025, if enacted, would likely affect every adult in the U.S. by tossing out the nation's long-standing system of multiple tax brackets, which is designed to help lower-income Americans pay a smaller share of their income in federal taxes compared with middle- or high-income workers.

Currently, there are seven tax brackets 10%, 12%, 22%, 24%, 32%, 35% and 37% with each based on income thresholds. For instance, a married couple pays 10% in federal income tax on their first $23,200 of income, and then 12% on earnings from $23,201 to $94,300, and so on. Married couples need to earn over $487,450 this year to hit the top tax rate of 37%.

Project 2025 argues that the current tax system is too complicated and expensive for taxpayers to navigate. To remedy those problems, it proposes just two tax rates: a 15% flat tax for people earning up to about $168,000, and a 30% income tax for people earning above that, according to the document. It also proposes eliminating "most deductions, credits and exclusions," although the blueprint doesn't specify which ones would go and which would stay.

Project 2025's tax rates

Millions of low- and middle-class households would likely face significantly higher taxes under the Project 2025's proposals.

He estimated that a middle-class family with two children and an annual income of $100,000 would pay $2,600 in additional federal income tax if they faced a 15% flat tax on their income due to the loss of the 10% and 12% tax brackets. If the Child Tax Credit were also eliminated, they would pay an additional $6,600 compared with today's tax system, Duke said.

By comparison, a married couple with two children and earnings of $5 million a year would enjoy a $325,000 tax cut, he estimated.

"That 15% bracket is a very big deal in terms of raising taxes on middle-class families," Duke said.

Millions of U.S. households earning less than $168,000 would likely face higher taxes with a 15% rate. Currently, the bottom half of American taxpayers, who earn less than $46,000 a year, pay an effective tax rate of 3.3% which reflects their income taxes after deductions, tax credits and other benefits.
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I don't know about this 2025 thing but the left seems very against it so it must be good.
Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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ShooterTX said:

Anyone on the left, who is still listening to either the Biden Admin, or their surrogates in the mainstream media... is just too stupid to be allowed to vote!....



Interesting. Another poster suggested that only property owners would vote. Where would you set the IQ limit?
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Doc Holliday said:




If you can't trust Trump who can you trust? Amiright??? Lol
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

ShooterTX said:

Anyone on the left, who is still listening to either the Biden Admin, or their surrogates in the mainstream media... is just too stupid to be allowed to vote!....



Interesting. Another poster suggested that only property owners would vote. Where would you set the IQ limit?

All I know is the founding fathers never intended for just any uninformed idiot to have the right to vote just because they are 18 or older, and for good reason as they knew there would be negative consequences if that were the case - such as congressional reps like AOC and Maxine Watters, governors like Gavin Newsome, and presidents like Joe Biden. That genie is of course long since out of the bottle and isn't going back - and as a country we will continue to suffer the consequences of it.
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Is it already time to drum up fake shock and fake outrage over someone else's fake shock and fake outrage over a nonexistent agenda that paints half the country as evil demons for political points?

It's just the beginning of July, we just had fireworks, settle down a bit.
STxBear81
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why not 20% for everyone regardless of income bracket...make it simple.

why not have Congress or the Government not spend anything we cant afford with the tax money collected.
Harrison Bergeron
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Threat to Democracy = "anything radical leftist nutjobs disagree with."
Harrison Bergeron
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This is cracking me up ... now the LWNJ are claiming there is a vast, right-wing conspiracy to censor anything on Facebook that could hurt Donald Trump.

I honestly don't know if they're serious.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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Johnny Bear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

ShooterTX said:

Anyone on the left, who is still listening to either the Biden Admin, or their surrogates in the mainstream media... is just too stupid to be allowed to vote!....



Interesting. Another poster suggested that only property owners would vote. Where would you set the IQ limit?

All I know is the founding fathers never intended for just any uninformed idiot to have the right to vote just because they are 18 or older, and for good reason as they knew there would be negative consequences if that were the case - such as congressional reps like AOC and Maxine Watters, governors like Gavin Newsome, and presidents like Joe Biden. That genie is of course long since out of the bottle and isn't going back - and as a country we will continue to suffer the consequences of it.
re

Our founding fathers only allowed male white land owners vote. Is this what you long for?
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ShooterTX
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Johnny Bear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

ShooterTX said:

Anyone on the left, who is still listening to either the Biden Admin, or their surrogates in the mainstream media... is just too stupid to be allowed to vote!....



Interesting. Another poster suggested that only property owners would vote. Where would you set the IQ limit?

All I know is the founding fathers never intended for just any uninformed idiot to have the right to vote just because they are 18 or older, and for good reason as they knew there would be negative consequences if that were the case - such as congressional reps like AOC and Maxine Watters, governors like Gavin Newsome, and presidents like Joe Biden. That genie is of course long since out of the bottle and isn't going back - and as a country we will continue to suffer the consequences of it.
re

Our founding fathers only allowed male white land owners vote. Is this what you long for?


Honestly, it would probably be a VAST improvement... but no... no one is advocating for that.

It would be great to limit voting to only those who are net tax payers. People who pay nothing in, or take more out than they pay in, should NOT be voting on how to spend other people's money.
That's like allowing criminals to decide what kind of security systems will be in place at the local bank.
ShooterTX
Harrison Bergeron
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ShooterTX said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Johnny Bear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

ShooterTX said:

Anyone on the left, who is still listening to either the Biden Admin, or their surrogates in the mainstream media... is just too stupid to be allowed to vote!....



Interesting. Another poster suggested that only property owners would vote. Where would you set the IQ limit?

All I know is the founding fathers never intended for just any uninformed idiot to have the right to vote just because they are 18 or older, and for good reason as they knew there would be negative consequences if that were the case - such as congressional reps like AOC and Maxine Watters, governors like Gavin Newsome, and presidents like Joe Biden. That genie is of course long since out of the bottle and isn't going back - and as a country we will continue to suffer the consequences of it.
re

Our founding fathers only allowed male white land owners vote. Is this what you long for?


Honestly, it would probably be a VAST improvement... but no... no one is advocating for that.

It would be great to limit voting to only those who are net tax payers. People who pay nothing in, or take more out than they pay in, should NOT be voting on how to spend other people's money.
That's like allowing criminals to decide what kind of security systems will be in place at the local bank.



Agreed. If you don't contribute you don't get to vote.
Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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I would agree to that.

A good friend of mine came to America 10 years ago. She earned her masters and doctors degree while teaching in higher paying areas. She started paying taxes and SS from the day she arrived. She has always been here legally on a green card. Should she have been allowed to vote? Not an issue now, she got her citizenship last month.,
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Mitch Blood Green
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Harrison Bergeron said:

ShooterTX said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Johnny Bear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

ShooterTX said:

Anyone on the left, who is still listening to either the Biden Admin, or their surrogates in the mainstream media... is just too stupid to be allowed to vote!....



Interesting. Another poster suggested that only property owners would vote. Where would you set the IQ limit?

All I know is the founding fathers never intended for just any uninformed idiot to have the right to vote just because they are 18 or older, and for good reason as they knew there would be negative consequences if that were the case - such as congressional reps like AOC and Maxine Watters, governors like Gavin Newsome, and presidents like Joe Biden. That genie is of course long since out of the bottle and isn't going back - and as a country we will continue to suffer the consequences of it.
re

Our founding fathers only allowed male white land owners vote. Is this what you long for?


Honestly, it would probably be a VAST improvement... but no... no one is advocating for that.

It would be great to limit voting to only those who are net tax payers. People who pay nothing in, or take more out than they pay in, should NOT be voting on how to spend other people's money.
That's like allowing criminals to decide what kind of security systems will be in place at the local bank.



Agreed. If you don't contribute you don't get to vote.


What does contribute mean?
Realitybites
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The two biggest advantages of the flat tax over the progressive tax are:

(1) it improves upward mobility in society as people advance in their lives and earn more over the course of their careers. Success isn't punished.

(2) it prevents the government from manipulating and corrupting society by writing in tax rates and brackets for donors and pet causes.

A flat tax plus tariffs would be a great solution to several economic issues. But 15% is too high. 10% - if its good enough for God, it is good enough for government. Or perhaps we can match Russia's 13% tax rate.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Johnny Bear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

ShooterTX said:

Anyone on the left, who is still listening to either the Biden Admin, or their surrogates in the mainstream media... is just too stupid to be allowed to vote!....



Interesting. Another poster suggested that only property owners would vote. Where would you set the IQ limit?

All I know is the founding fathers never intended for just any uninformed idiot to have the right to vote just because they are 18 or older, and for good reason as they knew there would be negative consequences if that were the case - such as congressional reps like AOC and Maxine Watters, governors like Gavin Newsome, and presidents like Joe Biden. That genie is of course long since out of the bottle and isn't going back - and as a country we will continue to suffer the consequences of it.
re

Our founding fathers only allowed male white land owners vote. Is this what you long for?
Nah, they shouldn't have to be white.
Harrison Bergeron
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Today's disinformation: only man-wife marriages with a stay at home mom are valid.

It is shocking how much disinformation actually is unleashed on the world.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Johnny Bear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

ShooterTX said:

Anyone on the left, who is still listening to either the Biden Admin, or their surrogates in the mainstream media... is just too stupid to be allowed to vote!....



Interesting. Another poster suggested that only property owners would vote. Where would you set the IQ limit?

All I know is the founding fathers never intended for just any uninformed idiot to have the right to vote just because they are 18 or older, and for good reason as they knew there would be negative consequences if that were the case - such as congressional reps like AOC and Maxine Watters, governors like Gavin Newsome, and presidents like Joe Biden. That genie is of course long since out of the bottle and isn't going back - and as a country we will continue to suffer the consequences of it.
re

Our founding fathers only allowed male white land owners vote. Is this what you long for?

Of course not.
Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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So which Americans would you let vote?
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Johnny Bear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

ShooterTX said:

Anyone on the left, who is still listening to either the Biden Admin, or their surrogates in the mainstream media... is just too stupid to be allowed to vote!....



Interesting. Another poster suggested that only property owners would vote. Where would you set the IQ limit?

All I know is the founding fathers never intended for just any uninformed idiot to have the right to vote just because they are 18 or older, and for good reason as they knew there would be negative consequences if that were the case - such as congressional reps like AOC and Maxine Watters, governors like Gavin Newsome, and presidents like Joe Biden. That genie is of course long since out of the bottle and isn't going back - and as a country we will continue to suffer the consequences of it.
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Our founding fathers only allowed male white land owners vote. Is this what you long for?


Dems want illegals to vote.

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There are very few Dems here. Maybe one will show up and let us know if they want illegals to vote.

From what I have read dems want all Americans to have the right to vote.

Have you heard any dems say they want illegals to vote in federal or state elections?

The wets I know lay as low aa possible. They try to stay here work, and send money to thier families ba k in mexi o as long as possible. The last thing they want to do is get involved in an election. They accept cash and no not wany any paperwork that might lead to getting caught. At least that's how the guys I used to hire to build fences thought. What's your experience been?
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I dont want to live forever.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

There are very few Dems here. Maybe one will show up and let us know if they want illegals to vote.

From what I have read dems want all Americans to have the right to vote.

Have you heard any dems say they want illegals to vote in federal or state elections?

The wets I know lay as low aa possible. They try to stay here work, and send money to thier families ba k in mexi o as long as possible. The last thing they want to do is get involved in an election. They accept cash and no not wany any paperwork that might lead to getting caught. At least that's how the guys I used to hire to build fences thought. What's your experience been?



https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/10/opinions/new-york-city-noncitizen-voting-smart-policy-reyes/index.html
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EatMoreSalmon said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

There are very few Dems here. Maybe one will show up and let us know if they want illegals to vote.

From what I have read dems want all Americans to have the right to vote.

Have you heard any dems say they want illegals to vote in federal or state elections?

The wets I know lay as low aa possible. They try to stay here work, and send money to thier families ba k in mexi o as long as possible. The last thing they want to do is get involved in an election. They accept cash and no not wany any paperwork that might lead to getting caught. At least that's how the guys I used to hire to build fences thought. What's your experience been?



https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/10/opinions/new-york-city-noncitizen-voting-smart-policy-reyes/index.html

Yeah but those don't count because they don't post here and LIQR doesn't personally know them.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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