Kamala Harris to Institute Price Controls on Food & Groceries!

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/what-trumps-100-percent-auto-tariff-would-mean-us-economy

What Trump's 100 Percent Auto Tariff Would Mean For The US Economy

In a March 17 campaign speech, former president Trump vowed "We're going to put a 100 percent tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you're not going to be able to sell those guys if I get elected."
Trump was not clear about the target of his tariffs, but what would the consequences be of a 100 percent tax on imported autos?
Conflicting Plans
It could be catastrophic. At a time when so many worry about inflation, past experience with other goods suggests a tariff likely would drive up the cost of motor vehicles, domestic as well as imports, used cars as well as new. And rather than add jobs, as Trump insists, these tariffs likely would send thousands of US workers to the unemployment line.
In his March 17 speech, he implied he'd levy the 100 percent import tax only on Chinese nameplate vehicles made in Mexico. But, while the world's top seller of EVs, Chinese automaker BYD is exploring whether to produce electric vehicles in Mexico, it curently sells none in the US.
At other times, Trump proposed very different import taxes. He's promised a 10 percent tariff on all imported goods, a 50 percent tariff on all imported Chinese cars, and a 60 percent tariff on all Chinese goods. Listen here for Trump's own explanation of how he views tariffs.
It also is not clear whether Trump would tax imports of autos only or also include component parts. The 25 percent tariffs Trump imposed on Chinese steel imports in 2018 did target materials used to manufacture other products and it seems reasonable to assume any new levy would do the same.

Tariffs attempt to force Amercans to buy overpriced inferior products to support auto unions.
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https://www.kbb.com/cars/

Very few Ameican cars on this list. Instead of demanding auto companies sink or swim based on results our government trie to force them upon us.

But of coure tariffs arent the same as price fixing. Controlling prices and isolationism, by jingo.
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This is idiotic. If Trump actually said this and intendeds to do it then he doesn't understand economics much. I suspect it's a cheap political play, not that that is an excuse.

A modest tariff is reasonable. In certain instances a slightly higher one might be viable but the rate for any tariff should be low.
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LIQR, I don't think you understand the concept or purpose of tariffs in this instance. I think you're exercising self righteous indignation on the false assumption that Trump and his voters are going against their political ideology...and in doing so you're missing the big picture.

China consistently creates tariffs and manipulates trade. The idea is that if we will equalize any tariff attempt by China, they will scale back which frees up trade.

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historian said:

This is idiotic. If Trump actually said this and intendeds to do it then he doesn't understand economics much. I suspect it's a cheap political play, not that that is an excuse.

A modest tariff is reasonable. In certain instances a slightly higher one might be viable but the rate for any tariff should be low.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/howardgleckman/2024/03/28/what-trumps-100-auto-tariff-proposal-would-mean-for-the-us-economy/

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I can't post youtube but search Trump auto tariff 100%. You can listen to him declaring it

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China puts tariffs on all our goods but we reward them with open trade? Two Howard Glekman articles and he doesn't mention the other side of the equation.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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I believe you. I'm just incredulous that Trump would say something so obviously stupid. I shouldn't be surprised, though, because he's a shoot from the hip kind of talker.

He would be a much better candidate if he had more maturity and self discipline. At least he's better than the commie duo…
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I agree with everrything you said.
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For anyone who thinks Bidenomics works:

https://notthebee.com/article/bureau-of-labor-statistics-expected-to-revise-jobs-data-from-april-23-march

Also, if you seriously think the economy is in good shape now, what have you been smoking?????
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Add the federal deficit on top!
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The way I see it is this

Dems want us to depend on the government

Republicans want us to make our own choices

I like making my own choices.
Obamacare sucks donkey dings
Clean energy is a joke the way they present it
Not utilizing our energy is plain dumb
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STxBear81 said:

The way I see it is this

Dems want us to depend on the government

Republicans want us to make our own choices

I like making my own choices.
Obamacare sucks donkey dings
Clean energy is a joke the way they present it
Not utilizing our energy is plain dumb


Aren't the tariffs to force us to buy poorly built cars produced by overpaid union bosses and workers? I always thought unions were full of dems and republican Texans had fought for open shops.

100% tariff on imported cars? Freedom?
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This right here will motivate every crypto investor to vote Trump. Most already would be voting Trump anyways but not a single BTC owner likes Gensler. He's a crooked rat POS of the highest order.
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Excellent point. The truly frustrating part of this brewing economic catastrophe is that almost nobody in Washington cares. So nothing happens except it keeps getting worse.
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100% tariff is insane. Period.
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Biden has said the same thing for EV cars. Trump will be more widespread. If he is telling the truth.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Biden has said the same thing for EV cars. Trump will be more widespread. If he is telling the truth.
Ford must be doing it wrong!!!! If you can't compete, exit the market. Don't keep throwing good money after bad.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-staggering-amount-money-ford-140300424.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
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This is one of the threads where I have to remind myself that each of the contributors had at least 3 classes of economics and American history.
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Kaibear: "each of the contributors had at least 3 classes of economics and American history."

Which puts them well ahead of the average Congress critter, and > 99% of people in the media.
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nein51
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Sounds like a good time to realize those gains
4th and Inches
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nein51 said:

Sounds like a good time to realize those gains
we already do that crap with property taxes in Texas.. doing that federally as well will coat millions of home owners their property

This idea alone should have every home owner vote against her
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nein51 said:

Sounds like a good time to realize those gains
Not an option for many of us. The house where my wife and I live, is going to be our last home.

The whole concept of taxing unrealized "gains" is contemptible in the first place. It was bad enough when property taxes went up even with a "locked" rate because of assumed home value rises, this move should enrage anyone with a mortgage.
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nein51 said:

Sounds like a good time to realize those gains
Sounds like a good time to vote for Trump
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4th and Inches said:

nein51 said:

Sounds like a good time to realize those gains
we already do that crap with property taxes in Texas.. doing that federally as well will coat millions of home owners their property

This idea alone should have every home owner vote against her

There's no unrealized capital gains tax in Texas. Huge difference between property taxes changing by a capped amount and actually owing taxes on the sale of your home that you haven't sold.

Unrealized capital gains tax should be a non starter that buries a candidate because I assure you if they are willing to do that on your home they are also willing to do it to your 401k and any depreciating asset you own.

And I PROMISE you they will exempt lower tax brackets which will make this wildly popular as it's essentially "tax the rich!"
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Oldbear83 said:

nein51 said:

Sounds like a good time to realize those gains
Not an option for many of us. The house where my wife and I live, is going to be our last home.

The whole concept of taxing unrealized "gains" is contemptible in the first place. It was bad enough when property taxes went up even with a "locked" rate because of assumed home value rises, this move should enrage anyone with a mortgage.

You need to put that house in a trust or sell it to your LLC for $1.

Probably a very good time to start thinking about how you take property out of your name.
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Doc Holliday said:

nein51 said:

Sounds like a good time to realize those gains
Sounds like a good time to vote for Trump

It's been that for a lot longer than a day or two and I HATE that guy.
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nein51 said:

Doc Holliday said:

nein51 said:

Sounds like a good time to realize those gains
Sounds like a good time to vote for Trump

It's been that for a lot longer than a day or two and I HATE that guy.
its never been about liking him..

His policies are mostly sensible and her policies are disasterous for middle class which is what they want to erase

They want the elite class and the worker class
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Oldbear83 said:

Kaibear: "each of the contributors had at least 3 classes of economics and American history."

Which puts them well ahead of the average Congress critter, and > 99% of people in the media.
No argument........and exam just how well our government is functioning.
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Income taxes in general are contemptible, as are politicians keep reminding us. The Founding Fathers were wise to forbid it in the original constitution and it was idiotic to pass the 16th amendment plaguing America ever since.
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