Fre3dombear said:

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Porteroso said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Porteroso said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Porteroso said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Can't tell ya how many times Ive heard some politician lecturing "the bruthas" to get in line the last few days

The desperation is revealing itself

Can they rig it again???

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Being racist isn't rigging anything, it is being racist.

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So who's being racist here? Obama or black men? or Democrats?

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Obama, if he said these things. You can't bait people based upon race.

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The entire invention of the Obama figment is and was race. Are you serious Carl?

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Maybe expound upon that thought further, because race is not a figment of the imagination, nor is racial injustice in this country.

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Who said that? Who among us hasn't experienced racism?

You misread my post if that's what you came away with. Try it again.

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Oh, I see. My bad.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Porteroso said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Porteroso said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Can't tell ya how many times Ive heard some politician lecturing "the bruthas" to get in line the last few days

The desperation is revealing itself

Can they rig it again???

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Being racist isn't rigging anything, it is being racist.

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So who's being racist here? Obama or black men? or Democrats?

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Obama, if he said these things. You can't bait people based upon race.

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The entire invention of the Obama figment is and was race. Are you serious Carl?

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Maybe expound upon that thought further, because race is not a figment of the imagination, nor is racial injustice in this country.

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Sorry Porteroso, but the Left has played that card so many times no one buys that crap anymore.

Part of it is because Democrats always claim Blacks need them to succeed, but they do as well or better under GOP Administrations.

Sooner or later you wake up.

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It is not that black people need the government to be successful, but that the country mistreated black people a long time. Many in generational poverty can trace their poverty straight to slavery. Statistically it is so difficult to get out of poverty.

It is worth acknowledging, even if you don't want your tax dollars going to the problem. Dems have certainly overplayed the card, but it is still a card.

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It's a tired lie for the most part, disproven so many times only the dishonest and intellectually lazy still cling to it.

Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Porteroso said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Porteroso said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Can't tell ya how many times Ive heard some politician lecturing "the bruthas" to get in line the last few days

The desperation is revealing itself

Can they rig it again???

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Being racist isn't rigging anything, it is being racist.

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So who's being racist here? Obama or black men? or Democrats?

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Obama, if he said these things. You can't bait people based upon race.

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The entire invention of the Obama figment is and was race. Are you serious Carl?

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Maybe expound upon that thought further, because race is not a figment of the imagination, nor is racial injustice in this country.

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Sorry Porteroso, but the Left has played that card so many times no one buys that crap anymore.

Part of it is because Democrats always claim Blacks need them to succeed, but they do as well or better under GOP Administrations.

Sooner or later you wake up.

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It is not that black people need the government to be successful, but that the country mistreated black people a long time. Many in generational poverty can trace their poverty straight to slavery. Statistically it is so difficult to get out of poverty.

It is worth acknowledging, even if you don't want your tax dollars going to the problem. Dems have certainly overplayed the card, but it is still a card.

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It's a tired lie for the most part, disproven so many times only the dishonest and intellectually lazy still cling to it.

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To say it never happened is just your old fart of a self not wanting to reckon with it. No helping the willfully ignorant. Enjoy your bliss.

And the trillions spent on the Great Society and other welfare, increased, decreased, or kept poverty the same?

Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Porteroso said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Porteroso said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Can't tell ya how many times Ive heard some politician lecturing "the bruthas" to get in line the last few days

The desperation is revealing itself

Can they rig it again???

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Being racist isn't rigging anything, it is being racist.

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So who's being racist here? Obama or black men? or Democrats?

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Obama, if he said these things. You can't bait people based upon race.

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The entire invention of the Obama figment is and was race. Are you serious Carl?

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Maybe expound upon that thought further, because race is not a figment of the imagination, nor is racial injustice in this country.

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Sorry Porteroso, but the Left has played that card so many times no one buys that crap anymore.

Part of it is because Democrats always claim Blacks need them to succeed, but they do as well or better under GOP Administrations.

Sooner or later you wake up.

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It is not that black people need the government to be successful, but that the country mistreated black people a long time. Many in generational poverty can trace their poverty straight to slavery. Statistically it is so difficult to get out of poverty.

It is worth acknowledging, even if you don't want your tax dollars going to the problem. Dems have certainly overplayed the card, but it is still a card.

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It's a tired lie for the most part, disproven so many times only the dishonest and intellectually lazy still cling to it.

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To say it never happened is just your old fart of a self not wanting to reckon with it. No helping the willfully ignorant. Enjoy your bliss.

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Proves my point. Pretending the events of the past, sometimes distant past, equals current conditions, is patently dishonest.

And pretending that the bias has not existed in other direction and has not been just as bad or worse over the last forty years is also a lie used by frankly racist instigators.

And the 'victims' are figuring out, albeit slowly, that your party plays them for fools and they are going to resent it when they wake up.

Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Porteroso said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Porteroso said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Can't tell ya how many times Ive heard some politician lecturing "the bruthas" to get in line the last few days

The desperation is revealing itself

Can they rig it again???

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Being racist isn't rigging anything, it is being racist.

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So who's being racist here? Obama or black men? or Democrats?

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Obama, if he said these things. You can't bait people based upon race.

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The entire invention of the Obama figment is and was race. Are you serious Carl?

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Maybe expound upon that thought further, because race is not a figment of the imagination, nor is racial injustice in this country.

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Sorry Porteroso, but the Left has played that card so many times no one buys that crap anymore.

Part of it is because Democrats always claim Blacks need them to succeed, but they do as well or better under GOP Administrations.

Sooner or later you wake up.

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It is not that black people need the government to be successful, but that the country mistreated black people a long time. Many in generational poverty can trace their poverty straight to slavery. Statistically it is so difficult to get out of poverty.

It is worth acknowledging, even if you don't want your tax dollars going to the problem. Dems have certainly overplayed the card, but it is still a card.

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It's a tired lie for the most part, disproven so many times only the dishonest and intellectually lazy still cling to it.

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To say it never happened is just your old fart of a self not wanting to reckon with it. No helping the willfully ignorant. Enjoy your bliss.

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Proves my point. Pretending the events of the past, sometimes distant past, equals current conditions, is patently dishonest.

And pretending that the bias has not existed in other direction and has not been just as bad or worse over the last forty years is also a lie used by frankly racist instigators.

And the 'victims' are figuring out, albeit slowly, that your party plays them for fools and they are going to resent it when they wake up.

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Yep. Crazy how many they duped and crazier how many are still duped, dumb or stubborn to realize. Thank God I've helped so many off the New Democrat plantation. And now we're maybe 8% of the population and voting extinction as we import Latin America. What idiots.

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A lot of black men simply aren't down with most of the woke agenda (especially things like the glorification of the trans movement) and Harris is the embodiment of a woke politician. IMO by and large that's at the root of their rejection of her and their growing support of Trump.

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Barack s an exception. Well documented he likes to smoke the pipe iykwim

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Weed?

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Fre3dombear said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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A lot of black men simply aren't down with most of the woke agenda (especially things like the glorification of the trans movement) and Harris is the embodiment of a woke politician. IMO by and large that's at the root of their rejection of her and their growing support of Trump.

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Barack s an exception. Well documented he likes to smoke the pipe iykwim

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Weed?

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Diddy party..

Barack Obama told ex, 'I make love to men daily, but in the imagination,' letter shows

https://nypost.com/2023/08/12/barack-obama-told-ex-i-make-love-to-men-daily-but-in-the-imagination/

everything i hear about trump is what the Dems have already done to us

Former Stealers Antonio Brown, Le'Veon Bell Register Trump Voters in PA

STxBear81 said:

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everything i hear about trump is what the Dems have already done to us

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The Dems are masters of projection.

Forest Bueller_bf said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Porteroso said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Can't tell ya how many times Ive heard some politician lecturing "the bruthas" to get in line the last few days

The desperation is revealing itself

Can they rig it again???

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Being racist isn't rigging anything, it is being racist.

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So who's being racist here? Obama or black men? or Democrats?

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Black men who are United States citizens can vote for whom they damn well please, like everybody else in the United States that is eligible to vote.

Joe Biden is racist having told them to get in line in 2020.

Obama is racist currently telling them to get in line in 2024.

Nobody is owed your vote because of the color of their skin.

Now the question of why such a percentage of black men don't like Kamala??

They know who she is. All guys know a Kamala.

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When the votes are finally counted…….

A majority of black men will vote for Harris.

An overwhelming majority of black women will vote for Harris.

Trump will get less than 30% of the total black vote.

Harris will win……and with her policies black Americans will be worse off than ever.

Honestly Kamala's politics are bad enough she knows she is down for all the crazy agenda, but besides that, her fake accents and nausiating laugh/cackle alone are reason enough to vote against her.

Man I don't want to hear that **** for the next 4 years.

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Honestly Kamala's politics are bad enough she knows she is down for all the crazy agenda, but besides that, her fake accents and nausiating laugh/cackle alone are reason enough to vote against her.

Man I don't want to hear that **** for the next 4 years.

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Trump is almost as cringe.

But if the Dems don't destroy his 2nd term as they did the first, Trump's country saving policies will be worth his bombastic narratives.

KaiBear said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Porteroso said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Can't tell ya how many times Ive heard some politician lecturing "the bruthas" to get in line the last few days

The desperation is revealing itself

Can they rig it again???

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Being racist isn't rigging anything, it is being racist.

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So who's being racist here? Obama or black men? or Democrats?

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Black men who are United States citizens can vote for whom they damn well please, like everybody else in the United States that is eligible to vote.

Joe Biden is racist having told them to get in line in 2020.

Obama is racist currently telling them to get in line in 2024.

Nobody is owed your vote because of the color of their skin.

Now the question of why such a percentage of black men don't like Kamala??

They know who she is. All guys know a Kamala.

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When the votes are finally counted…….

A majority of black men will vote for Harris.

An overwhelming majority of black women will vote for Harris.

Trump will get less than 30% of the total black vote.

Harris will win……and with her policies black Americans will be worse off than ever.

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Of course, I didn't project over 30% of black males to be voting Trump. Or over 20% overall. But it is far cry from the 8% of the past. Just that much will tip the scales.

Of course the rabid white liberal female population is growing in percentage each year, that may make up for the difference in itself.

Forest Bueller_bf said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Porteroso said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Can't tell ya how many times Ive heard some politician lecturing "the bruthas" to get in line the last few days

The desperation is revealing itself

Can they rig it again???

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Being racist isn't rigging anything, it is being racist.

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So who's being racist here? Obama or black men? or Democrats?

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Black men who are United States citizens can vote for whom they damn well please, like everybody else in the United States that is eligible to vote.

Joe Biden is racist having told them to get in line in 2020.

Obama is racist currently telling them to get in line in 2024.

Nobody is owed your vote because of the color of their skin.

Now the question of why such a percentage of black men don't like Kamala??

They know who she is. All guys know a Kamala.

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Does Kamala = Karen?
No, she's worse!

Really not sure how I even believe anything from the media about polling
So accustomed to misinformation from everyone.
All the media wants is attention 365/24/7 and it didn't matter how they present it

KaiBear said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Honestly Kamala's politics are bad enough she knows she is down for all the crazy agenda, but besides that, her fake accents and nausiating laugh/cackle alone are reason enough to vote against her.

Man I don't want to hear that **** for the next 4 years.

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Trump is almost as cringe.

But if the Dems don't destroy his 2nd term as they did the first, Trump's country saving policies will be worth his bombastic narratives.

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If Pennsylvania is deciding this thing, like so many polsters have contended, it is convievable the Amish vote could tip the scales as well. They are actually mobilizing the Amish vote, something that is usually left untapped.

It still may not be a huge percentage, but there are 90,000 Amish in PA. alone. If he could swing 20,000 of them to vote, in a razor tight election, that could make a difference.

Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Honestly Kamala's politics are bad enough she knows she is down for all the crazy agenda, but besides that, her fake accents and nausiating laugh/cackle alone are reason enough to vote against her.

Man I don't want to hear that **** for the next 4 years.

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Kamala or Beth Mowins?

You have to pick one to listen to the next 4 years.

Forest Bueller_bf said:

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KaiBear said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Honestly Kamala's politics are bad enough she knows she is down for all the crazy agenda, but besides that, her fake accents and nausiating laugh/cackle alone are reason enough to vote against her.

Man I don't want to hear that **** for the next 4 years.

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Trump is almost as cringe.

But if the Dems don't destroy his 2nd term as they did the first, Trump's country saving policies will be worth his bombastic narratives.

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If Pennsylvania is deciding this thing, like so many polsters have contended, it is convievable the Amish vote could tip the scales as well. They are actually mobilizing the Amish vote, something that is usually left untapped.

It still may not be a huge percentage, but there are 90,000 Amish in PA. alone. If he could swing 20,000 of them to vote, in a razor tight election, that could make a difference.

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With tespect…….

Whatever Harris needs to 'win' Pennsylvania will be manufactured in Philadelphia.

Be it 20,000 votes or 80,000.

Yep. Dems are too confident. No way that lady is legit enough to lead this country.

Black and Hispanic men will not vote for Kamala because they see the destruction of family units due to the fact that this administration is not enforcing President Trump's 2018 First Step Act. This law allows for decreased prison sentences for certain crimes, thus giving inmates a second chance.

They also know that Kamala has no respect for them. Same with Dems in general.

No one likes being pandered to the way Kamala does the black community...that's why. her recent "opportunity agenda for black men" is nothing but another attempt to buy votes....and not a single one of the five points in that agenda is constitutional.

Black men do not dislike Harris as much as old white men wish they did.

Trump will be lucky to get even 30% of the total black vote.

And that is hardly a 'victory'.

KaiBear said:

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Black men do not dislike Harris as much as old white men wish they did.

Trump will be lucky to get even 30% of the total black vote.

And that is hardly a 'victory'.

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30% would be historic. It's a shame so many people have been sold a bill of goods

KaiBear said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Porteroso said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Can't tell ya how many times Ive heard some politician lecturing "the bruthas" to get in line the last few days

The desperation is revealing itself

Can they rig it again???

---

Being racist isn't rigging anything, it is being racist.

---

So who's being racist here? Obama or black men? or Democrats?

---

Black men who are United States citizens can vote for whom they damn well please, like everybody else in the United States that is eligible to vote.

Joe Biden is racist having told them to get in line in 2020.

Obama is racist currently telling them to get in line in 2024.

Nobody is owed your vote because of the color of their skin.

Now the question of why such a percentage of black men don't like Kamala??

They know who she is. All guys know a Kamala.

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When the votes are finally counted…….

A majority of black men will vote for Harris.

An overwhelming majority of black women will vote for Harris.

Trump will get less than 30% of the total black vote.

Harris will win……and with her policies black Americans will be worse off than ever.

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Kai is right.

The question for some men isn't Harris or Trump. It's vote or not. If you believe all of politics is BS, you might sit it out.

At this point it's a turnout game.

KaiBear said:

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Black men do not dislike Harris as much as old white men wish they did.

Trump will be lucky to get even 30% of the total black vote.

And that is hardly a 'victory'.

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It's a huge victory considering blacks tend to vote 85% Dem or more. If Trump doubled the usual percentage of black voters then he wins the election, probably in a landslide (especially when considering the large numbers of Hispanics, Jews, union workers, & other traditional Dem groups voting for him). Moreover, if it's not a one off then 2024 could bring about a major realignment.

I know that's quite a few ifs. But all this kind of election talk is speculative.

Unfortunately that's true. It's also a narrow minded & irresponsible view. Not voting is a a surrender of responsibility to others, including criminals & frauds. It's an admission that a person does not care about the future of the country or of one's children.

historian said:

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Unfortunately that's true. It's also a narrow minded & irresponsible view. Not voting is a a surrender of responsibility to others, including criminals & frauds. It's an admission that a person does not care about the future of the country or of one's children.

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What about the cat womens (if only we knew what a woman was. Maybe we can identify them by their cats?)

Good question.