They should be a terrific candidate for alternative energy though.
nein51 said:
Data centers drive up energy prices.
They should be a terrific candidate for alternative energy though.
Trump's friends-and-family approach to clemency has spawned a pardon-shopping industry where lobbyists say their going rate is $1 million and some have been offered success fees of as much as $6 million, report @rebeccaballhaus @jdawsey1 @cryanbarber https://t.co/ufu99gVgUW
— Peter Baker (@peterbakernyt) December 24, 2025
So what you’re saying is the files were never on @AGPamBondi’s desk like she claimed in this video? https://t.co/Az8cGN2fum pic.twitter.com/gdYlhGt6VW
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) December 24, 2025
The layered defense shields are what solves the swarm issue. You use everything from SM-2s to laser precision targeting, then last mile defenses like the Phalanx and eventually something like microwave systems such as Leonides. The reality is that cruise missiles and not drones continue to be the biggest threat to ships. The true threat of drones is the overwhelming of defense capabilities to allow hypersonic or other cruise missiles to slip through. That ls why layering and coordinated targeting becomes so critical in a battle situation against an opponent like China.FLBear5630 said:ATL Bear said:KaiBear said:Harrison Bergeron said:Oldbear83 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Oldbear83 said:
" Will be impressed if they have a new design that can withstand China's drones and super-sonic ICBMs."
Last I checked, all ICBMs are supersonic.
Fair enough - what is the new missile it has ... maybe it is hypersonic. Regardless, not sure an other big carrier makes sense.
depends on what it does besides the obvious.
Carriers are force projection, which drones/missiles cannot accomplish.
It's also important that new carriers do more than the older classes.
Anyway, a new carrier makes more sense than, say, the F-35 or DEI.
I'm definitely not an expert, but afraid China takes out all our carriers in a couple of days with those hypersonic missiles or massive drone attacks. Hope I'm wrong.
Carriers are hopelessly obsolete.
Easy to detect, a floating mega explosion loaded with jet fuel and bombs.
Multi billion dollar target for cheap drones and missiles.
And each CV is manned by approx 5000 sailors.
Unfortunately we are still fighting and planning for WW2 sea battles.
Even with the recent example of the Russians losing several warships in their Black Sea fleet to Ukranian drones.
I'm sorry, but you couldn't be more wrong in your assessment. Russia is literally still deploying some mostly mid 20th century naval tech, not to mention they only have 1 troubled aircraft carrier from the Soviet Union days. The US Navy is a completely different animal than any of our adversaries, including China.. They've been dealing with swarm missile attack threats for decades, and are now transitioning to the new drone type threats. Perhaps you didn't know the large amount of unmanned warfare capability (both offensive and defensive) the navy commands. Heck they're building future "ghost fleets" with air, sea, and subsurface capabilities.. Look up things like HELIOS, ODIN, Phalanx, and Switchblades as just a few defensive and offensive capabilities in the drone fight.
Carrier groups are military ecosystems that tie together multi ship, air, as well as other branches such as space force, Air Force, and Army capabilities. They are the ultimate forward operating force. If anything, drones are a greater threat to ground based assets. It's why we have had drone casualties in Syria and not in the Persian Gulf or Arabian Sea. This isn't your Father's or Grandfather's Navy.
Now that isn't meant to diminish the China threat. The problem is solving the cost and capacity calculus. Using million dollar missiles to stop thousand dollar drones is a poor equation. China also has a production advantage. We can and are maintaining the innovation advantage, but the production issue is unsolved. They are also advancing their capabilities that we have to counter.
A lot of new tech being developed is focusing on cheaper stopping costs such as advanced signal jamming, lasers, and microwaves. The defensive arcs around carriers are combos of long, medium, and short range matrices, meaning any strike at a carrier, whether hypersonic missiles or drones must succeed through each barrier. You also have the F35s being used as drone "commanders" bringing that element to their war fighting as a force multiplier. As you bring in these unmanned ships and "ghost fleets" you further extend your offensive and defensive range, and without the human casualty concern.
One thing is for sure, aircraft carriers aren't just some big floating dinghy filled with sailors waiting to get sunk by drones.
The use of lasers is very interesting and cost effective. The issue for the Navy is still swarming. 90% is not good enough if a hypersonic gets through to a carrier. How do you overcome swarms and rolling swarm attacks? If you look at the missile capabilities the number of anti-missile assets, the numbers game gets problematic. But, as you say the environment is changing. Just look at the Arleigh Burke loadouts and how they are changing.
Missile Loadouts: Arleigh Burke (1991-2018)
This is a really interesting article if you are interested in this.
DDG(X) Unveiled - What Can We Learn?
Trump: We track Santa. We want to make sure that Santa is being good. We want to make sure that he's not infiltrated, that we're not infiltrating into our country a bad Santa. Santa loves Oklahoma like I do. You know, Oklahoma was very good to me in the election pic.twitter.com/9ZrhYBqYa8
— Acyn (@Acyn) December 24, 2025
Trump to child from Pennsylvania: Pennsylvania is great, we won Pennsylvania, actually three times. We won it in a landslide. pic.twitter.com/LKpsc4LqSn
— Acyn (@Acyn) December 24, 2025
BigGameBaylorBear said:BREAKING: President Trump has authorized a $2.1 billion grant to Nigeria aimed at preventing HIV, tuberculosis, malaria, and polio.
— The General (@GeneralMCNews) December 22, 2025
MNGA!!! Make Nigeria Great Again
🚨🇺🇦 | BREAKING:Ukraine’s new Flamingo cruise missile is changing the game.
— WAR (@warsurveillance) December 24, 2025
With a reported range of up to 3000 km, it is said to outperform the US Tomahawk and is already striking targets deep inside Russia. pic.twitter.com/WoXHkEwKtt
Assassin said:BigGameBaylorBear said:BREAKING: President Trump has authorized a $2.1 billion grant to Nigeria aimed at preventing HIV, tuberculosis, malaria, and polio.
— The General (@GeneralMCNews) December 22, 2025
MNGA!!! Make Nigeria Great AgainThe post accurately reports a $2.1 billion U.S. grant to Nigeria, signed December 20, 2025, for HIV, TB, malaria, and polio prevention over five years, part of new healthy pacts with nine African nations aligning with Trump's priorities. Replies predominantly criticize the aid as contradicting "America First" rhetoric, citing U.S. $38 trillion debt and unmet domestic needs, with similar backlash to Bush-era PEPFAR grants. PEPFAR, a comparable program since 2003, has saved 26 million lives and prevented 5.5 million HIV transmissions to infants per State Department data, though studies highlight persistent challenges in eradicating diseases long-term.
Dr Sheila Nazarian explains as American citizens were leaving California because of Gavin Newsom and Democrat policies, Nancy Pelosi was replacing those people by giving houses to illegals so they wouldn’t lose House Seats
— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) December 24, 2025
‘Congressional House seats are apportioned by bodies,… pic.twitter.com/I5eozCMkxa
'CLEAN HOUSE': Trump advisor Stephen Miller calls for firings at CBS over the network's pulled '60 Minutes' deportation segment, labeling the story a "hatchet job" that was trying to gin up sympathy for illegal immigrant gang members. pic.twitter.com/BCE8b2DIr9
— Fox News (@FoxNews) December 24, 2025
This is HUGE ‼️ Donald Trump’s HHS is preparing a new childhood vaccine schedule to be announced at the beginning of the year
— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) December 24, 2025
America’s vaccine schedule will look similar to Denmarks
This will reduce the amount of childhood vaccines from 72 doses all the way down to just 11 pic.twitter.com/juFGDPG44I
Trump: “Merry Christmas to all, including the Radical Left Scum that is doing everything possible to destroy our Country, but are failing badly. We no longer have Open Borders, Men in Women’s Sports, Transgender for Everyone, or Weak Law Enforcement … “ pic.twitter.com/6x5CoBaAbA
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 25, 2025
Today in 1776-
— Sal the Agorist (@SallyMayweather) December 24, 2025
George Washington crosses the Delaware River to kill politicians in their sleep bc they taxed his tea at 3%, pic.twitter.com/E1kM9fgIrW
Trump takes a Christmas call from a little girl:
— johnny maga (@_johnnymaga) December 24, 2025
“What would you like Santa to bring?”
“Uh… not coal.”
“You mean clean, beautiful coal?”
“I had to do that, I’m sorry.”
LMFAO. 😭 pic.twitter.com/2xBShZg9rT
FLBear5630 said:whiterock said:FLBear5630 said:whiterock said:FLBear5630 said:boognish_bear said:One day MAGA and America Firsters will have to confront hard truths about Trump.
— John Cardillo (@johncardillo) December 20, 2025
He’s a NeoCon RINO. https://t.co/7YRm1MI66D
I am not only one who sees it.
supporting incumbents is the rule. always has been. both parties. across all ideological strata. There is no party discipline without it.
What? Really? What world are you living in? Biden is supporting Trump? MAGA/Trump supported Biden? GOP supported Obama? Kerry/Reid supported Bush?
Even within the same Party the GOP has a long history of challenging policies that they do not agree with or that are not successful. Trump supported Bush? A little Kettle and Pot?
Trump is and was the first one to come out and not "fall in line" to follow Party politics.
Honestly, we can use a little more George H.W. Bush nowadays and separate Government from Politics. Not much of that going on. It is Politics with a little Government.
....Sigh....
one of the widest and most well-worn trails in politics is that parties protect their incumbents. First priority is protecting the seats you have. Second priority is competing for open seats. Last priority is throwing money at trying to defeat incumbents (meaning incumbents of the other party).
Primary challenges are so rare because it makes no sense to have a political party which tolerates, much less encourages primary challenges to its own incumbents.
No one is talking of a Primary Challenge to anyone. 2028 is open, there is no incumbent as Trump termed out. Yet, you overlook that Trump thinks NOTHING of primarying those that don't agree with him. But, that is OK? Trump is not about the Party, he could care less about the Party. Trump is about Trump and if you don't get in line with him he will Primary you in a heart beat, he has done it
Trump Threatens to Primary Any Republican Who Votes for Continuing Resolution
Senate Republicans who could face primary over Trump Cabinet picks
GOP senators responding to Trump allies' primary threats
I can go on. Yeah, support the Party. Trump is about Trump, either you are at the trough or you are a target. Very simplistic view of the world and consistent from his NY days. He was a Dem just as easy as a Republican when it suited him. Vance is the perfect match, goes where the wind blows...
Jack Bauer said:Trump: “Merry Christmas to all, including the Radical Left Scum that is doing everything possible to destroy our Country, but are failing badly. We no longer have Open Borders, Men in Women’s Sports, Transgender for Everyone, or Weak Law Enforcement … “ pic.twitter.com/6x5CoBaAbA
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 25, 2025
whiterock said:FLBear5630 said:whiterock said:FLBear5630 said:whiterock said:FLBear5630 said:boognish_bear said:One day MAGA and America Firsters will have to confront hard truths about Trump.
— John Cardillo (@johncardillo) December 20, 2025
He’s a NeoCon RINO. https://t.co/7YRm1MI66D
I am not only one who sees it.
supporting incumbents is the rule. always has been. both parties. across all ideological strata. There is no party discipline without it.
What? Really? What world are you living in? Biden is supporting Trump? MAGA/Trump supported Biden? GOP supported Obama? Kerry/Reid supported Bush?
Even within the same Party the GOP has a long history of challenging policies that they do not agree with or that are not successful. Trump supported Bush? A little Kettle and Pot?
Trump is and was the first one to come out and not "fall in line" to follow Party politics.
Honestly, we can use a little more George H.W. Bush nowadays and separate Government from Politics. Not much of that going on. It is Politics with a little Government.
....Sigh....
one of the widest and most well-worn trails in politics is that parties protect their incumbents. First priority is protecting the seats you have. Second priority is competing for open seats. Last priority is throwing money at trying to defeat incumbents (meaning incumbents of the other party).
Primary challenges are so rare because it makes no sense to have a political party which tolerates, much less encourages primary challenges to its own incumbents.
No one is talking of a Primary Challenge to anyone. 2028 is open, there is no incumbent as Trump termed out. Yet, you overlook that Trump thinks NOTHING of primarying those that don't agree with him. But, that is OK? Trump is not about the Party, he could care less about the Party. Trump is about Trump and if you don't get in line with him he will Primary you in a heart beat, he has done it
Trump Threatens to Primary Any Republican Who Votes for Continuing Resolution
Senate Republicans who could face primary over Trump Cabinet picks
GOP senators responding to Trump allies' primary threats
I can go on. Yeah, support the Party. Trump is about Trump, either you are at the trough or you are a target. Very simplistic view of the world and consistent from his NY days. He was a Dem just as easy as a Republican when it suited him. Vance is the perfect match, goes where the wind blows...
you've got a reading comprehension problem going on. The whole thread is about a primary challenge to a sitting incumbent. Read the first post. It's questioning why Trump would support a guy with a very poor voting record over a primary challenger alleged to be considerably more conservative. You chimed in to support it. I merely pointed out that the first rule of partisan politics is that you support your incumbents (because if you don't, party discipline evaporates).
Has nothing to do with Trump at all. Has nothing to do with whether or not Gonzalez is conservative enough on any scale objective or subjective. It's merely an observation of reality = parties support their incumbents. Always have. Always will. Party discipline evaporates with out it.
Equally important is the obvious common sense of it. Don't spend your time & money challenging people on your own side on a fool's errand - to achieve ever higher levels of ideological perfection. Focus the resources you have on taking seats away from the opposing party. It's a bit of common sense that crosses disciplines. The quail biologists have an impressive stack of field study indicating that there's more ROI by turning cover with zero quail into suitable habitat than there is in trying to turn suitable habitat into perfect habit. So don't put out feeders & plant crops & such to try to increase the size of your covies; bulldoze thickets that have no birds in order to make brand new covies.
william said:
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Newsweek
Trump Digs Out of the Biden Ditch
The United States is set to see the largest one-year decline in murders ever recorded, according to a crime data analyst.
Jeff Asher, the co-founder of AH Datalytics, says the Real-Time Crime Index (RTCI), a collection of monthly crime data from hundreds of law enforcement agencies nationwide, shows murder has dropped by about 19.8 percent from January through October compared to 2024.
"A roughly 20 percent drop in murder in 2025, as is suggested by the current data, would be by far the largest decline ever recorded, eclipsing the decline in 2024currently pegged at -15 percent by the FBI, but that's subject to a likely upward revision next year," Asher wrote in his Sub
Why It Matters
The decline comes as President Donald Trump has prioritized a combating violent crime since returning to the White House in January. He has sent the National Guard to several Democrat-led cities as part of his administration's crackdown on illegal immigration and crime, sparking an intense backlash and legal challenges.
While Trump officials are taking credit, the decline in murder is part of a larger trend dating back several years. Homicides surged during the pandemic, but as Asher notes, the drop in crime this year "continues a trend that began in 2023, accelerated in 2024, and likely became historic in 2025."
What To Know
The RTCI data is currently only available through October. The data from a sample of 570 agencies shows there were 5,912 murders through October this year, compared to 7,369 in 2024.
Murder is down significantly in big cities that saw the most homicides in 2024, Asher notes.
Birmingham, Alabama, saw the biggest decline since 2024, with a 49 percent drop. Murder has fallen by almost 30.9 percent in Baltimore compared to last year, by 28.8 percent in Chicago, by 20.9 percent in New York City, 26.3 percent in Atlanta and 15.8 percent in Philadelphia.
But some of the cities with the most murders in 2024 saw an increase this year. Milwaukee had an increase of 11.3 percent, while murders in Los Angeles rose by 5.3 percent and Kansas City saw an increase of 6.2 percent.
Asher noted that looking at individual cities "highlights the historic nature in the drop in murder."
He wrote: "New Orleans is on pace for the fewest murders since 1970. New York City reported the fewest shootings ever recorded (though the start of recording is probably the 1990s). Numerous cities recorded the lowest murders through November since the 1960s, including Detroit (since 1964), Baltimore (1962), Philadelphia (1966), Oakland (1967), and San Francisco (likely since at least 1942)."
What People Are Saying
Jeff Asher wrote that overall, there "were likely around 12,000 fewer people murdered in the United States in 2024 and 2025 than in 2020 and 2021. That is tremendous progress that should be celebrated, while acknowledging that 14,000 or so murders this year in the United States is still far too many."
The Department of Homeland Security wrote on X: "Here at DHS we've been operating by this radical idea that removing murderers from our country would bring down the murder rate. Who could have guessed it would work?"
FBI Director Kash Patel wrote on X: "U.S. murders on pace for largest one-year drop on recordnot an accident. @realDonaldTrump's policy letting good cops be cops WORKS. Lives being saved every single day under this administration with great local partners across the country. And more work to do."
Elon Musk wrote on X: "Removing murderers from the streets works wonders."
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boognish_bear said:This is HUGE ‼️ Donald Trump’s HHS is preparing a new childhood vaccine schedule to be announced at the beginning of the year
— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) December 24, 2025
America’s vaccine schedule will look similar to Denmarks
This will reduce the amount of childhood vaccines from 72 doses all the way down to just 11 pic.twitter.com/juFGDPG44I
When you find out the North Pole is trying to bring more bureaucratic overreach & unfunded mandates down the chimney disguised as "Christmas cheer." Not on my watch. We The People run Indiana, not the bureaucrats.
— Chris Garten (@Sen_ChrisGarten) December 25, 2025
Take it back to the North Pole big guy. Merry Christmas,… pic.twitter.com/iZDsl1DME0
BREAKING: Fewest laws passed and House votes in 2025 since at least 1989, setting new Congressional inaction records, per WaPo.
— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) December 25, 2025
boognish_bear said:
Maybe a cause and effect with so many EOsBREAKING: Fewest laws passed and House votes in 2025 since at least 1989, setting new Congressional inaction records, per WaPo.
— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) December 25, 2025
The most massive bribe to the Trump family in their entire history..
— Jay in Kyiv (@JayinKyiv) December 25, 2025
Offering Trump a nuclear power plant that Russians stole from Ukraine, to mine crypto. https://t.co/GJQDjNY4QE
boognish_bear said:The most massive bribe to the Trump family in their entire history..
— Jay in Kyiv (@JayinKyiv) December 25, 2025
Offering Trump a nuclear power plant that Russians stole from Ukraine, to mine crypto. https://t.co/GJQDjNY4QE
Watched the Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra Family Christmas with my kids.
— Stephen Miller (@StephenM) December 26, 2025
Imagine watching that and thinking America needed infinity migrants from the third world.
India urges U.S. to address H1B visa delays.
— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) December 26, 2025
“Several people have been stranded in India for quite some time due to their H1B visa appointment delays. This has caused hardship for their families,” says India’s Foreign Ministry. pic.twitter.com/WRv2YV21SE
boognish_bear said:Watched the Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra Family Christmas with my kids.
— Stephen Miller (@StephenM) December 26, 2025
Imagine watching that and thinking America needed infinity migrants from the third world.
BREAKING:
— Megatron (@Megatron_ron) December 26, 2025
🇮🇱🇸🇴 Israel has officially recognized Somaliland as an independent state, the first country to do so.
It's now clearer why the Trump administration is ramping up propaganda against Somalia... pic.twitter.com/wXwSupbGjm