Trans women (or men) have been around forever

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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The argument in the title is disingenuous. The truth is there have been men who pretended to be women. The vast vast majority knew that they were men. The ones that didn't know that they were men, were correctly diagnosed with a mental problem.

Pretending to be a woman used to be laughed at in comedy and overlooked in day-to-day encounters. But then, PROGRESSIVES started arguing that they were in fact women. They lied, and they created a whole class of men who pretend to be women AND expect you to pretend as well. They went to war against women in the name of wokeness. They went in to the schools to groom the kids and force their nonsense on the kids. Now PROGRESSIVES want you to continue to lie, they know very well that men can't become women, they just want everyone to play pretend. The sad part is so many Americans were dumb enough to parrot it AND argue for it.

Progressives. the below are who they are, complete liars, don't care what nonsense comes out of their mouths in defense of gender bending:

Pennsylvania Democrat while defending trans athletes: "Female bodies are just as strong, fast, and capable as male bodies"
https://notthebee.com/article/pennsylvania-democrat-defends-trans-athletes-female-bodies-are-just-as-strong-fast-and-capable-as-male-bodies
Doc Holliday
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What you have to understand is that this woke stuff, "activism" and Trans stuff like this is all performative for themselves. Its borderline schizophrenic. The left behaves like this because they need to reinforce their false worldview in face of the truth toward themselves. Its propaganda they simultaneously create and consume.

Leftists hold the view that America is a white male, Christian nationalist, fascist dominated country on the verge of rightist totalitarianism. This is their dominant mainstream narrative and the cognitive dissonance required to hold this view while the right barely controls any institutions is insane.
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It is also a power play as old as time to continually champion "aggrieved" groups with (often false) promises for political gain. Using the "we are SO better than those guys" ploy as a brainwashing tool for masses is nothing new. The Romans were pretty good at it under the emperors.
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Trump ends the trans debate once and for all:



Boom.

Yes, I know the crazies will continue repeating their idiotic delusions and too many people who know better will repeat the lies. But there is not one word of Trump's sentence that can be refuted. It's obvious truth. Duh!
Doc Holliday
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historian said:

Trump ends the trans debate once and for all:



Boom.

Yes, I know the crazies will continue repeating their idiotic delusions and too many people who know better will repeat the lies. But there is not one word of Trump's sentence that can be refuted. It's obvious truth. Duh!
Yep. The manner in which we have to deal with this is to unapologetically profess our opposition to them to cry more and we don't care.
historian
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Tell the truth and call out the liars at every opportunity.
hodedofome
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Trump is crazy but at least he knows what a woman is. We can't say the same about the left.
Assassin
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"An unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates
historian
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Insanity!

Translate: "Fake is more real than reality"
Assassin
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The fascists are evil.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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Redbrickbear
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Assassin said:



She thinks "patriarchy" is the reason transexuals have a low life expectancy and high suicide rate?

And not maybe the more obvious and logical answer.....that they are freaking mentally ill?

historian
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It's a good bet that this woman has done dirt of mental illness. At the very least, she is delusional.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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Assassin
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"An unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates
TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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Most liberals are now quiet on the subject. Not because they care about women, but they know that they don't have an argument for it anymore. They know it's grossly unfair, they know it's happening frequently, they look evil supporting it, and they just can't win an argument so they stay quiet.

Predictable. They are scurrying off to hide until they get an AOC and Bernie leading the charge in the next election. The pro trans athlete crowd are either truly evil or entirely rudderless people.
Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.


historian
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Both evil & rudderless
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ABC BEAR
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It's true that trans has been around for a very long time. The earliest Olympians competed in the nude mainly to keep men in their proper place. Another factoid of interest is that the original horizontal jumps were called the Dong Jump and the Triple Dong Jump. High Hurdles were not a competitive event until after the invention of the jock strap.
Malbec
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ABC BEAR said:

It's true that trans has been around for a very long time. The earliest Olympians competed in the nude mainly to keep men in their proper place. Another factoid of interest is that the original horizontal jumps were called the Dong Jump and the Triple Dong Jump. High Hurdles were not a competitive event until after the invention of the jock strap.
Actually, they laid a woman out across the pit and called it the Broad Jump. Then they got the idea to put one in the pit and another two on the runway and called it the Triple Broad Jump.
Assassin
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ABC BEAR said:

It's true that trans has been around for a very long time. The earliest Olympians competed in the nude mainly to keep men in their proper place. Another factoid of interest is that the original horizontal jumps were called the Dong Jump and the Triple Dong Jump. High Hurdles were not a competitive event until after the invention of the jock strap.
The low hurdles however were called the "Ding Dong". Better for the grow-ers, not the show-ers...
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ABC BEAR
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Malbec said:

ABC BEAR said:

It's true that trans has been around for a very long time. The earliest Olympians competed in the nude mainly to keep men in their proper place. Another factoid of interest is that the original horizontal jumps were called the Dong Jump and the Triple Dong Jump. High Hurdles were not a competitive event until after the invention of the jock strap.
Actually, they laid a woman out across the pit and called it the Broad Jump. Then they got the idea to put one in the pit and another two on the runway and called it the Triple Broad Jump.
Hmm, it sounds like revisionist history but I like the idea.
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How is that kind of thinking not a mental illness??
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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J.R.
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I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.
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Harrison Bergeron
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J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.
I would turn your own argument around and ask you: if we have bigger fish to fry, why does the radical left think this is THE hill to die upon? Why is men competing against women so important to the left? Why is exposing children to gay porn THE hill to die upon?

The problem we have currently is the gap between what I call legitimate people with gender dysphoria and men cosplaying as women. Virtually all legitimate trans people want to be left alone to live their lives not bothering anyone and not seeking attention.

What we have currently is a political-cultural phenomenon driven by two factors:

1. The money - once gay marriage was universally passed and generally accepted, the Gaystapo needed a new issue to stay relevant and keep fundraising. The "trans" was a convenient issue to keep the party going.

2. The culture - once being gay was no longer controversial, attention seeking people needed to stay relevant and be different, so becoming "trans" was an easy way to do that. Today, being gay is just so 1990s and boring, so the attention seekers need a new thing.

The "fake trans" rights movement is silly, anti-scientific, and irrational. There is a huge gap between treating folks with gender dysphoria with respect and love and pretending anyone that randomly declares himself "trans" is an actual woman and should be treated like a woman, especially when it harms real women and real girls. I is degrading to science, intellect, and the culture overall. It is exacerbated by the fact that Big Pharma and Big Trans is obsessed with mutilating children.
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Assassin
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Jack Bauer said:


CNN does have some brain surgeons...
"An unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates
Robert Wilson
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J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.
One reason is that society's willingness to be dishonest about this has driven the rate of trans up dramatically, specifically (interestingly) among upper middle class white females. Lots of people are being hurt by it. Badly.
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Anything built upon lies is doomed to fail. In the meantime, much pain, grief & injustice will result. It's all the work of the father of lies.
J.R.
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Robert Wilson said:

J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.
One reason is that society's willingness to be dishonest about this has driven the rate of trans up dramatically, specifically (interestingly) among upper middle class white females. Lots of people are being hurt by it. Badly.
hurt badly, how so?
J.R.
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historian said:

Anything built upon lies is doomed to fail. In the meantime, much pain, grief & injustice will result. It's all the work of the father of lies.
what did trumps say now?
Robert Wilson
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J.R. said:

Robert Wilson said:

J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.
One reason is that society's willingness to be dishonest about this has driven the rate of trans up dramatically, specifically (interestingly) among upper middle class white females. Lots of people are being hurt by it. Badly.
hurt badly, how so?


Themselves, their friends, the social contagion and everything that goes along with it generally. I've watched kids go through it up close and personal. It is not pretty.
TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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JR - "don't sweat the small stuff."

The guy clearly isn't objective. Changing sexes, grooming children, demanding that society accommodate the mentally ill And play along, pay for sex changes, have it fill every form of media in an attempt to NORMALIZE, promote, and grow the numbers of trans. The list goes on.

"small stuff" aka you conservatives are worried about nothing.

A ridiculous premise.


Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.


 
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