Trans women (or men) have been around forever

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The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE), which conducts a large annual survey of US undergraduates, polled over 60,000 students in 2025. My analysis of the raw data shows that in that year, just 3.6% of respondents identified as a gender other than male or female. By comparison, the figure was 5.2% in 2024 and 6.8% in both 2022 and 2023. In other words, the share of trans-identified students has effectively halved in just two years.
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Robert Wilson said:

J.R. said:

Robert Wilson said:

J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.

One reason is that society's willingness to be dishonest about this has driven the rate of trans up dramatically, specifically (interestingly) among upper middle class white females. Lots of people are being hurt by it. Badly.

hurt badly, how so?


Themselves, their friends, the social contagion and everything that goes along with it generally. I've watched kids go through it up close and personal. It is not pretty.

Can you say more?
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Those lovable trans he/shes are back at it

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"An unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates
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Assassin said:

Those lovable trans he/shes are back at it



Where did all these weird ass gargoyles come from?

And what were they doing prior to the trans fad?
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Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Those lovable trans he/shes are back at it



Where did all these weird ass gargoyles come from?

And what were they doing prior to the trans fad?

My guess is that they were just a bunch of gay guys looking for little boys in Men's bathrooms
"An unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates
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J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.
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Waco1947 said:

J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.

A voice a reason and Compassion

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Waco1947 said:

J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.
A voice a reason and Compassion


Not small stuff. They're castrating kids, grooming kids.
"They" doesn't exist as an individual pronoun. Complete lunacy.
But stupidity and progressivism go together.
Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.


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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Waco1947 said:

J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.

A voice a reason and Compassion


Not small stuff. They're castrating kids, grooming kids.
"They" doesn't exist as an individual pronoun. Complete lunacy.
But stupidity and progressivism go together.

That's an accurate summary
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Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican
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Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican

Sometimes when something sets off your revulsion reflex, there's a good reason.
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Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican

Not sure anyone cares
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Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican


Some posts are excessive and are abusive

I observe that indulging an individual's delusion (a biological man can become a woman) may be cruel. Sometimes a reality check is kind
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Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican

"An unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates
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Robert Wilson said:

Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican

Sometimes when something sets off your revulsion reflex, there's a good reason.
Exactly! When you treat people as less than human I am deeply saddened by the inhumanity
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historian said:

Trump ends the trans debate once and for all:





Boom.

Yes, I know the crazies will continue repeating their idiotic delusions and too many people who know better will repeat the lies. But there is not one word of Trump's sentence that can be refuted. It's obvious truth. Duh!


How many evangelcal leaders/pastors are willing to say something this clear?
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Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican


Such a intellectually dishonest post.

As if that's the reason he doesnt vote Republican. He is a progressive. He will roll his trans ideology bus over kids and crush fairness without a second of remorse. His ideology is machievellian, the ends justifies the means.
He should be ashamed but he celebrates it, and the funniest part of his cruelty, is that he will present it as a gift, the gift of inclusion... He will victimize the innocent and blame them and call them the victimizer.

Take your fake "love" out of here, cause only idiots will buy what you are selling.
Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.


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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican


Such a intellectually dishonest post.

As if that's the reason he doesnt vote Republican. He is a progressive. He will roll his trans ideology bus over kids and crush fairness without a second of remorse. His ideology is machievellian, the ends justifies the means.
He should be ashamed but he celebrates it, and the funniest part of his cruelty, is that he will present it as a gift, the gift of inclusion... He will victimize the innocent and blame them and call them the victimizer.

Take your fake "love" out of here, cause only idiots will buy what you are selling.


And it's not cruel or mean to acknowledge truth. The truth that, with the exception of the occasional medical or developmental anomaly, we are born male or female.

Just because a boy "thinks" or "feels" like a girl doesn't make him one. The thing dangling between his legs is evidence of that. That's a fact. That's science. And for those who believe in God, part of His plan.

In my opinion it's actually more cruel to cultivate a boy's belief he is a girl when he clearly isn't. That's when a parent needs to step in and be the adult in the room. Talk to him about it. Ask him why he feels the way he does. It could be a very simple fix. And if it's not, and they still feel "wrong" in the body God gave them, get some mental health services. If later they still can't subscribe to it, then they will do as they wish as adults.

But when the human brain doesn't even fully develop until you're in your twenties, it's not only irresponsible, but cruel to entertain any ideas of letting your kid change their sex when they're still children.
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Waco1947 said:

Robert Wilson said:

Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican

Sometimes when something sets off your revulsion reflex, there's a good reason.

Exactly! When you treat people as less than human I am deeply saddened by the inhumanity

Elevating unchecked empathy over any and all other values or practical considerations leads to all sorts of bad results. Empathy is a tool that can be used for good, but recently many on the left just follow their empathy to whatever absurd or damaging results it leads. That's not the moral high ground that you think it is.
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Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican

There's nothing cruel about telling a child that he or she will never be the opposite sex. That's just common sense. I would submit telling a child that she can be a man or that he can be a woman is what is actually cruel, as these things are impossibilities that - despite multiple surgeries to cut off appendages, hormone replacement treatment, etc. - will never achieve the desired result. The more compassionate act is helping the individual feel comfortable in his or her skin.

When we let our emotions override our brains and common sense, this is the result.
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Osodecentx said:

Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican

I observe that indulging an individual's delusion (a biological man can become a woman) may be cruel. Sometimes a reality check is kind

This.
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Osodecentx said:

The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE), which conducts a large annual survey of US undergraduates, polled over 60,000 students in 2025. My analysis of the raw data shows that in that year, just 3.6% of respondents identified as a gender other than male or female. By comparison, the figure was 5.2% in 2024 and 6.8% in both 2022 and 2023. In other words, the share of trans-identified students has effectively halved in just two years.

Wait ... you mean once again we were lied too by "experts?"

It always was a social contagian.
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Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican

Your stupidity can be refuted with one question you cannot answer: do you believe we should treat anorexics or affirm that they're actually morbidly abuse?

Actual cruelty is all the trainies murdering innocent children; but you don't care about them.
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Waco1947 said:

Robert Wilson said:

Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican

Sometimes when something sets off your revulsion reflex, there's a good reason.

Exactly! When you treat people as less than human I am deeply saddened by the inhumanity

You may be the worst Christian on the board. You tell women its okay to murder their children, you let our young die from Fentynal by supporting Open Borders. And the list goes on. The inhumanity is on YOUR shoulders
"An unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates
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TrojanMoondoggie said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican


Such a intellectually dishonest post.

As if that's the reason he doesnt vote Republican. He is a progressive. He will roll his trans ideology bus over kids and crush fairness without a second of remorse. His ideology is machievellian, the ends justifies the means.
He should be ashamed but he celebrates it, and the funniest part of his cruelty, is that he will present it as a gift, the gift of inclusion... He will victimize the innocent and blame them and call them the victimizer.

Take your fake "love" out of here, cause only idiots will buy what you are selling.


And it's not cruel or mean to acknowledge truth. The truth that, with the exception of the occasional medical or developmental anomaly, we are born male or female.

Just because a boy "thinks" or "feels" like a girl doesn't make him one. The thing dangling between his legs is evidence of that. That's a fact. That's science. And for those who believe in God, part of His plan.

In my opinion it's actually more cruel to cultivate a boy's belief he is a girl when he clearly isn't. That's when a parent needs to step in and be the adult in the room. Talk to him about it. Ask him why he feels the way he does. It could be a very simple fix. And if it's not, and they still feel "wrong" in the body God gave them, get some mental health services. If later they still can't subscribe to it, then they will do as they wish as adults.

But when the human brain doesn't even fully develop until you're in your twenties, it's not only irresponsible, but cruel to entertain any ideas of letting your kid change their sex when they're still children.
When you deny someone's human s identity then it s cruel. cruel. To call them delusional is cruel.
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Harrison Bergeron said:



It always was a social contagian.

Unbelievable to me that this was not obvious to everyone a long time ago. You have to have absolutely had blinders on to not see it.
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Waco1947 said:

TrojanMoondoggie said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican


Such a intellectually dishonest post.

As if that's the reason he doesnt vote Republican. He is a progressive. He will roll his trans ideology bus over kids and crush fairness without a second of remorse. His ideology is machievellian, the ends justifies the means.
He should be ashamed but he celebrates it, and the funniest part of his cruelty, is that he will present it as a gift, the gift of inclusion... He will victimize the innocent and blame them and call them the victimizer.

Take your fake "love" out of here, cause only idiots will buy what you are selling.


And it's not cruel or mean to acknowledge truth. The truth that, with the exception of the occasional medical or developmental anomaly, we are born male or female.

Just because a boy "thinks" or "feels" like a girl doesn't make him one. The thing dangling between his legs is evidence of that. That's a fact. That's science. And for those who believe in God, part of His plan.

In my opinion it's actually more cruel to cultivate a boy's belief he is a girl when he clearly isn't. That's when a parent needs to step in and be the adult in the room. Talk to him about it. Ask him why he feels the way he does. It could be a very simple fix. And if it's not, and they still feel "wrong" in the body God gave them, get some mental health services. If later they still can't subscribe to it, then they will do as they wish as adults.

But when the human brain doesn't even fully develop until you're in your twenties, it's not only irresponsible, but cruel to entertain any ideas of letting your kid change their sex when they're still children.

When you deny someone's human s identity then it s cruel. cruel. To call them delusional is cruel.

Deny someone's human identity? What do you mean here?

Are you saying that denying that someone is a girl or boy is denying their human identity? We should instead lie, and pretend they're something that they're not?

While I wouldn't call a trans person delusional to their face, there is no denying that they suffer from mental illness.
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Waco1947 said:

TrojanMoondoggie said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican


Such a intellectually dishonest post.

As if that's the reason he doesnt vote Republican. He is a progressive. He will roll his trans ideology bus over kids and crush fairness without a second of remorse. His ideology is machievellian, the ends justifies the means.
He should be ashamed but he celebrates it, and the funniest part of his cruelty, is that he will present it as a gift, the gift of inclusion... He will victimize the innocent and blame them and call them the victimizer.

Take your fake "love" out of here, cause only idiots will buy what you are selling.


And it's not cruel or mean to acknowledge truth. The truth that, with the exception of the occasional medical or developmental anomaly, we are born male or female.

Just because a boy "thinks" or "feels" like a girl doesn't make him one. The thing dangling between his legs is evidence of that. That's a fact. That's science. And for those who believe in God, part of His plan.

In my opinion it's actually more cruel to cultivate a boy's belief he is a girl when he clearly isn't. That's when a parent needs to step in and be the adult in the room. Talk to him about it. Ask him why he feels the way he does. It could be a very simple fix. And if it's not, and they still feel "wrong" in the body God gave them, get some mental health services. If later they still can't subscribe to it, then they will do as they wish as adults.

But when the human brain doesn't even fully develop until you're in your twenties, it's not only irresponsible, but cruel to entertain any ideas of letting your kid change their sex when they're still children.
When you deny someone's human s identity then it s cruel. cruel. To call them delusional is cruel.


Facts are things you can't change. It's cruel to tell someone they can change the immutable
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Waco1947 said:

TrojanMoondoggie said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican


Such a intellectually dishonest post.

As if that's the reason he doesnt vote Republican. He is a progressive. He will roll his trans ideology bus over kids and crush fairness without a second of remorse. His ideology is machievellian, the ends justifies the means.
He should be ashamed but he celebrates it, and the funniest part of his cruelty, is that he will present it as a gift, the gift of inclusion... He will victimize the innocent and blame them and call them the victimizer.

Take your fake "love" out of here, cause only idiots will buy what you are selling.


And it's not cruel or mean to acknowledge truth. The truth that, with the exception of the occasional medical or developmental anomaly, we are born male or female.

Just because a boy "thinks" or "feels" like a girl doesn't make him one. The thing dangling between his legs is evidence of that. That's a fact. That's science. And for those who believe in God, part of His plan.

In my opinion it's actually more cruel to cultivate a boy's belief he is a girl when he clearly isn't. That's when a parent needs to step in and be the adult in the room. Talk to him about it. Ask him why he feels the way he does. It could be a very simple fix. And if it's not, and they still feel "wrong" in the body God gave them, get some mental health services. If later they still can't subscribe to it, then they will do as they wish as adults.

But when the human brain doesn't even fully develop until you're in your twenties, it's not only irresponsible, but cruel to entertain any ideas of letting your kid change their sex when they're still children.

When you deny someone's human s identity then it s cruel. cruel. To call them delusional is cruel.

You sir, are the most delusional poster on this forum
"An unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates
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Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

TrojanMoondoggie said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican


Such a intellectually dishonest post.

As if that's the reason he doesnt vote Republican. He is a progressive. He will roll his trans ideology bus over kids and crush fairness without a second of remorse. His ideology is machievellian, the ends justifies the means.
He should be ashamed but he celebrates it, and the funniest part of his cruelty, is that he will present it as a gift, the gift of inclusion... He will victimize the innocent and blame them and call them the victimizer.

Take your fake "love" out of here, cause only idiots will buy what you are selling.


And it's not cruel or mean to acknowledge truth. The truth that, with the exception of the occasional medical or developmental anomaly, we are born male or female.

Just because a boy "thinks" or "feels" like a girl doesn't make him one. The thing dangling between his legs is evidence of that. That's a fact. That's science. And for those who believe in God, part of His plan.

In my opinion it's actually more cruel to cultivate a boy's belief he is a girl when he clearly isn't. That's when a parent needs to step in and be the adult in the room. Talk to him about it. Ask him why he feels the way he does. It could be a very simple fix. And if it's not, and they still feel "wrong" in the body God gave them, get some mental health services. If later they still can't subscribe to it, then they will do as they wish as adults.

But when the human brain doesn't even fully develop until you're in your twenties, it's not only irresponsible, but cruel to entertain any ideas of letting your kid change their sex when they're still children.

When you deny someone's human s identity then it s cruel. cruel. To call them delusional is cruel.

Deny someone's human identity? What do you mean here? One's sexual identity is their choice not yours. You may not agree with it but to deny that identity is to deny their humanity.

Are you saying that denying that someone is a girl or boy is denying their human identity? Wrong perspective. If you are denying their self-identiy

We should instead lie, and pretend they're something that they're not? Again, wrong perspective --- You don't matter. It is their call not yours.

While I wouldn't call a trans person delusional to their face, there is no denying that they suffer from mental illness. By what authority do you call them mentally ill? By your own?
Being transgender is not a mental illness. This is the consensus view of major medical and mental health organizations worldwide, which have officially declassified being transgender as a mental or psychiatric disorder.


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Osodecentx said:

Waco1947 said:

TrojanMoondoggie said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican


Such a intellectually dishonest post.

As if that's the reason he doesnt vote Republican. He is a progressive. He will roll his trans ideology bus over kids and crush fairness without a second of remorse. His ideology is machievellian, the ends justifies the means.
He should be ashamed but he celebrates it, and the funniest part of his cruelty, is that he will present it as a gift, the gift of inclusion... He will victimize the innocent and blame them and call them the victimizer.

Take your fake "love" out of here, cause only idiots will buy what you are selling.


And it's not cruel or mean to acknowledge truth. The truth that, with the exception of the occasional medical or developmental anomaly, we are born male or female.

Just because a boy "thinks" or "feels" like a girl doesn't make him one. The thing dangling between his legs is evidence of that. That's a fact. That's science. And for those who believe in God, part of His plan.

In my opinion it's actually more cruel to cultivate a boy's belief he is a girl when he clearly isn't. That's when a parent needs to step in and be the adult in the room. Talk to him about it. Ask him why he feels the way he does. It could be a very simple fix. And if it's not, and they still feel "wrong" in the body God gave them, get some mental health services. If later they still can't subscribe to it, then they will do as they wish as adults.

But when the human brain doesn't even fully develop until you're in your twenties, it's not only irresponsible, but cruel to entertain any ideas of letting your kid change their sex when they're still children.

When you deny someone's human s identity then it s cruel. cruel. To call them delusional is cruel.


Facts are things you can't change. It's cruel to tell someone they can change the immutable

To what facts are you alluding?
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican

Your stupidity can be refuted with one question you cannot answer: do you believe we should treat anorexics or affirm that they're actually morbidly abuse? Anorexia is a mental illiness and is treated as such by the scientific community. Being transgender is not a mental illness. This is the consensus view of major medical and mental health organizations worldwide, which have officially declassified being transgender as a mental or psychiatric disorde

Actual cruelty is all the trainies murdering innocent children; but you don't care about them. This sentence makes no sense. What trannies are murdering innocent children?

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Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican

Your stupidity can be refuted with one question you cannot answer: do you believe we should treat anorexics or affirm that they're actually morbidly abuse? Anorexia is a mental illiness and is treated as such by the scientific community. Being transgender is not a mental illness. This is the consensus view of major medical and mental health organizations worldwide, which have officially declassified being transgender as a mental or psychiatric disorde

Actual cruelty is all the trainies murdering innocent children; but you don't care about them. This sentence makes no sense. What trannies are murdering innocent children?



Of course Being Trans is a mental illness. Guess who said it wasn't? WHO, the World Health Organization who also did this "We saw the WHO deny that COVID-19 was spread via human-to-human transmission, based entirely on the word of the Chinese government. The WHO delayed naming COVID-19 a Public Health Emergency of International Concern, a World Health Organization procedure that, amongst other things, would have allowed for the procurement and distribution of scarce supplies, all because the Chinese Communist Party told them the spread was under control. The WHO delayed serious measures to counter the global spread of COVID-19, because the CCP was only worried about their own bottom line. When the WHO produced a report evaluating the possible origins of COVID-19, it became unquestionably evident that the entire report was nothing but more Chinese propaganda."
"An unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates
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