Trans women (or men) have been around forever

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Waco1947
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  • Brain structure:
    Neuroimaging studies have found that the brains of transgender individuals are structurally more similar to the brains of the gender they identify with, not the sex they were assigned at birth.
  • Prenatal factors:
    Some theories propose that transgender identities may be influenced by factors like prenatal hormone levels, as the brain develops separately from the genitals.
  • Genetic basis:
    Research from twin and family studies suggests a moderate genetic component to gender identity.
  • Hormonal pathways:
    Early research identified differences in brain pathways, such as estrogen receptor pathways, in transgender individuals.
  • Physiological responses:
    Studies on brain activation, like the hypothalamus response to pheromones, show that transgender individuals often react in a way that aligns with their gender identity.
Expert consensus
  • Complex origins:
    Most experts believe that biological factors, such as genetic influences and prenatal hormone levels, along with early and later life experiences, all contribute to the formation of transgender identities.
  • Gender identity versus physical sex:
    Scientific and medical organizations emphasize that gender identity is a function of the brain, not physical anatomy like genitals or chromosomes.
Ongoing research
  • Continued study:
    While current research strongly supports a biological basis for transgender identity, more research is needed to fully understand all the factors involved.
  • Brain differences are not the whole story:
    Some studies have found inconsistencies and limitations in current findings regarding brain differences.
Waco1947
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  • Brain structure:
    Neuroimaging studies have found that the brains of transgender individuals are structurally more similar to the brains of the gender they identify with, not the sex they were assigned at birth.
  • Prenatal factors:
    Some theories propose that transgender identities may be influenced by factors like prenatal hormone levels, as the brain develops separately from the genitals.
  • Genetic basis:
    Research from twin and family studies suggests a moderate genetic component to gender identity.
  • Hormonal pathways:
    Early research identified differences in brain pathways, such as estrogen receptor pathways, in transgender individuals.
  • Physiological responses:
    Studies on brain activation, like the hypothalamus response to pheromones, show that transgender individuals often react in a way that aligns with their gender identity.
Expert consensus
  • Complex origins:
    Most experts believe that biological factors, such as genetic influences and prenatal hormone levels, along with early and later life experiences, all contribute to the formation of transgender identities.
  • Gender identity versus physical sex:
    Scientific and medical organizations emphasize that gender identity is a function of the brain, not physical anatomy like genitals or chromosomes.
Ongoing research
  • Continued study:
    While current research strongly supports a biological basis for transgender identity, more research is needed to fully understand all the factors involved.
  • Brain differences are not the whole story:
    Some studies have found inconsistencies and limitations in current findings regarding brain differences.
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Just the phrase "Sex they were assigned at birth" is delusion.

It's the sex they are born. It is what they are.

A person can reject what they are, but it isn't a false assignment of birth that has happened,
it is a rejection of gender they were born.
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Waco1947 said:

Osodecentx said:

Waco1947 said:

Osodecentx said:

Waco1947 said:

Osodecentx said:

Waco1947 said:

TrojanMoondoggie said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Waco1947 said:

Such cruelty and meanness. It's why I cannot currently vote Republican


Such a intellectually dishonest post.

As if that's the reason he doesnt vote Republican. He is a progressive. He will roll his trans ideology bus over kids and crush fairness without a second of remorse. His ideology is machievellian, the ends justifies the means.
He should be ashamed but he celebrates it, and the funniest part of his cruelty, is that he will present it as a gift, the gift of inclusion... He will victimize the innocent and blame them and call them the victimizer.

Take your fake "love" out of here, cause only idiots will buy what you are selling.


And it's not cruel or mean to acknowledge truth. The truth that, with the exception of the occasional medical or developmental anomaly, we are born male or female.

Just because a boy "thinks" or "feels" like a girl doesn't make him one. The thing dangling between his legs is evidence of that. That's a fact. That's science. And for those who believe in God, part of His plan.

In my opinion it's actually more cruel to cultivate a boy's belief he is a girl when he clearly isn't. That's when a parent needs to step in and be the adult in the room. Talk to him about it. Ask him why he feels the way he does. It could be a very simple fix. And if it's not, and they still feel "wrong" in the body God gave them, get some mental health services. If later they still can't subscribe to it, then they will do as they wish as adults.

But when the human brain doesn't even fully develop until you're in your twenties, it's not only irresponsible, but cruel to entertain any ideas of letting your kid change their sex when they're still children.

When you deny someone's human s identity then it s cruel. cruel. To call them delusional is cruel.


Facts are things you can't change. It's cruel to tell someone they can change the immutable

To what facts are you alluding?


A female cannot change into a male. It's a delusion that ultimately damages people
That's a fact. Gender dysfunction can be treated, but not by mutilative surgery & hormones

Your view of science is very limited with regard to gender identity. College-educated folk like yourself should know better. Education is your friend not ideology.


We disagree

Then you disagree with science and the medical world; that is untenable in the 21st century.

Let me clarify; If you have a cock and balls, you are a guy, no matter if you butcher yourself or not. It are not born with a cock and balls and smell much better, you are a gal.

Case closed.
"An unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates
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J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.

You said that you used to go to drag queen shows?? You've harbored this perversion for a long time and now you want the normies to buy in. You will always be accepted here but therapy can help with abnormal perversions.
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Waco1947 said:

  • Brain structure:
    Neuroimaging studies have found that the brains of transgender individuals are structurally more similar to the brains of the gender they identify with, not the sex they were assigned at birth.
  • Prenatal factors:
    Some theories propose that transgender identities may be influenced by factors like prenatal hormone levels, as the brain develops separately from the genitals.
  • Genetic basis:
    Research from twin and family studies suggests a moderate genetic component to gender identity.
  • Hormonal pathways:
    Early research identified differences in brain pathways, such as estrogen receptor pathways, in transgender individuals.
  • Physiological responses:
    Studies on brain activation, like the hypothalamus response to pheromones, show that transgender individuals often react in a way that aligns with their gender identity.
Expert consensus
  • Complex origins:
    Most experts believe that biological factors, such as genetic influences and prenatal hormone levels, along with early and later life experiences, all contribute to the formation of transgender identities.
  • Gender identity versus physical sex:
    Scientific and medical organizations emphasize that gender identity is a function of the brain, not physical anatomy like genitals or chromosomes.
Ongoing research
  • Continued study:
    While current research strongly supports a biological basis for transgender identity, more research is needed to fully understand all the factors involved.
  • Brain differences are not the whole story:
    Some studies have found inconsistencies and limitations in current findings regarding brain differences.



Would you give me a link to the above?
Mothra
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Waco1947 said:

HB "
Let me explain how science works. The scientific method was invented by Francis Bacon and involves (simplified):
1. Making a hypothesis
2. Testing the hypothesis with experiments
3. Collecting and analyzing data
4. Drawing conclusions based on said data
5. Testing conclusions
6. Repeat

Science does not equal an opinion. Science is based on data and facts. Just like "racism, fascism, sexism, homophobia, hate, etc." does not mean "anything I disagree with," actual science does not mean "anything I agree with." You are relying on T'SCIENCE just like you love T'RACISM! What the heck are these terms?

Science does not equal an opinion about transgender people, like your opinion on transgenderism is not based on facts and data, but prejudice. You're relying on T'transgenderism.
Here's the science
  • Brain structure:
    Neuroimaging studies have found that the brains of transgender individuals are structurally more similar to the brains of the gender they identify with, not the sex they were assigned at birth.
  • Prenatal factors:
    Some theories propose that transgender identities may be influenced by factors like prenatal hormone levels, as the brain develops separately from the genitals.
  • Genetic basis:
    Research from twin and family studies suggests a moderate genetic component to gender identity.
  • Hormonal pathways:
    Early research identified differences in brain pathways, such as estrogen receptor pathways, in transgender individuals.
  • Physiological responses:
    Studies on brain activation, like the hypothalamus response to pheromones, show that transgender individuals often react in a way that aligns with their gender identity.
Expert consensus
  • Complex origins:
    Most experts believe that biological factors, such as genetic influences and prenatal hormone levels, along with early and later life experiences, all contribute to the formation of transgender identities.
  • Gender identity versus physical sex:
    Scientific and medical organizations emphasize that gender identity is a function of the brain, not physical anatomy like genitals or chromosomes.
Ongoing research
  • Continued study:
    While current research strongly supports a biological basis for transgender identity, more research is needed to fully understand all the factors involved.
  • Brain differences are not the whole story:
    Some studies have found inconsistencies and limitations in current findings regarding brain differences.


Just to be clear, you believe this post - which you copied from Google AI - proves what exactly? That a biological man can be a woman? That not pretending a biological man can become a woman is cruel?
Waco1947
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Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

HB "
Let me explain how science works. The scientific method was invented by Francis Bacon and involves (simplified):
1. Making a hypothesis
2. Testing the hypothesis with experiments
3. Collecting and analyzing data
4. Drawing conclusions based on said data
5. Testing conclusions
6. Repeat

Science does not equal an opinion. Science is based on data and facts. Just like "racism, fascism, sexism, homophobia, hate, etc." does not mean "anything I disagree with," actual science does not mean "anything I agree with." You are relying on T'SCIENCE just like you love T'RACISM! What the heck are these terms?

Science does not equal an opinion about transgender people, like your opinion on transgenderism is not based on facts and data, but prejudice. You're relying on T'transgenderism.
Here's the science
  • Brain structure:
    Neuroimaging studies have found that the brains of transgender individuals are structurally more similar to the brains of the gender they identify with, not the sex they were assigned at birth.
  • Prenatal factors:
    Some theories propose that transgender identities may be influenced by factors like prenatal hormone levels, as the brain develops separately from the genitals.
  • Genetic basis:
    Research from twin and family studies suggests a moderate genetic component to gender identity.
  • Hormonal pathways:
    Early research identified differences in brain pathways, such as estrogen receptor pathways, in transgender individuals.
  • Physiological responses:
    Studies on brain activation, like the hypothalamus response to pheromones, show that transgender individuals often react in a way that aligns with their gender identity.
Expert consensus
  • Complex origins:
    Most experts believe that biological factors, such as genetic influences and prenatal hormone levels, along with early and later life experiences, all contribute to the formation of transgender identities.
  • Gender identity versus physical sex:
    Scientific and medical organizations emphasize that gender identity is a function of the brain, not physical anatomy like genitals or chromosomes.
Ongoing research
  • Continued study:
    While current research strongly supports a biological basis for transgender identity, more research is needed to fully understand all the factors involved.
  • Brain differences are not the whole story:
    Some studies have found inconsistencies and limitations in current findings regarding brain differences.


Just to be clear, you believe this post - which you copied from Google AI - proves what exactly? That a biological man can be a woman? That not pretending a biological man can become a woman is cruel?
Ues
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Waco1947 said:

HB "
Let me explain how science works. The scientific method was invented by Francis Bacon and involves (simplified):
1. Making a hypothesis
2. Testing the hypothesis with experiments
3. Collecting and analyzing data
4. Drawing conclusions based on said data
5. Testing conclusions
6. Repeat

Science does not equal an opinion. Science is based on data and facts. Just like "racism, fascism, sexism, homophobia, hate, etc." does not mean "anything I disagree with," actual science does not mean "anything I agree with." You are relying on T'SCIENCE just like you love T'RACISM! What the heck are these terms?

Science does not equal an opinion about transgender people, like your opinion on transgenderism is not based on facts and data, but prejudice. You're relying on T'transgenderism.
Here's the science
  • Brain structure:
    Neuroimaging studies have found that the brains of transgender individuals are structurally more similar to the brains of the gender they identify with, not the sex they were assigned at birth.
  • Prenatal factors:
    Some theories propose that transgender identities may be influenced by factors like prenatal hormone levels, as the brain develops separately from the genitals.
  • Genetic basis:
    Research from twin and family studies suggests a moderate genetic component to gender identity.
  • Hormonal pathways:
    Early research identified differences in brain pathways, such as estrogen receptor pathways, in transgender individuals.
  • Physiological responses:
    Studies on brain activation, like the hypothalamus response to pheromones, show that transgender individuals often react in a way that aligns with their gender identity.
Expert consensus
  • Complex origins:
    Most experts believe that biological factors, such as genetic influences and prenatal hormone levels, along with early and later life experiences, all contribute to the formation of transgender identities.
  • Gender identity versus physical sex:
    Scientific and medical organizations emphasize that gender identity is a function of the brain, not physical anatomy like genitals or chromosomes.
Ongoing research
  • Continued study:
    While current research strongly supports a biological basis for transgender identity, more research is needed to fully understand all the factors involved.
  • Brain differences are not the whole story:
    Some studies have found inconsistencies and limitations in current findings regarding brain differences


Please post all the links to the peer-reviewed studies that support this anti-science silliness ...

Question for you (you will not answer): have the number of college kids identifying as a trainny increased or decreased in the last year? What scientific answer do you have for this trend after we saw a spike a couple of years ago?
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Harrison Bergeron
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Redbrickbear said:



How many times will the "experts" lie to the morons before the morons start to use their brains?
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Redbrickbear said:



How many times will the "experts" lie to the morons before the morons start to use their brains?


Obscure posters on Twitter were talking about trans being a social contagion (at least among a huge number of the young female girls) a long long time ago.

And yet the paper holding experts would have laughed at you and then tried to cancel you for saying what was so blatantly obvious
Mothra
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Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

HB "
Let me explain how science works. The scientific method was invented by Francis Bacon and involves (simplified):
1. Making a hypothesis
2. Testing the hypothesis with experiments
3. Collecting and analyzing data
4. Drawing conclusions based on said data
5. Testing conclusions
6. Repeat

Science does not equal an opinion. Science is based on data and facts. Just like "racism, fascism, sexism, homophobia, hate, etc." does not mean "anything I disagree with," actual science does not mean "anything I agree with." You are relying on T'SCIENCE just like you love T'RACISM! What the heck are these terms?

Science does not equal an opinion about transgender people, like your opinion on transgenderism is not based on facts and data, but prejudice. You're relying on T'transgenderism.
Here's the science
  • Brain structure:
    Neuroimaging studies have found that the brains of transgender individuals are structurally more similar to the brains of the gender they identify with, not the sex they were assigned at birth.
  • Prenatal factors:
    Some theories propose that transgender identities may be influenced by factors like prenatal hormone levels, as the brain develops separately from the genitals.
  • Genetic basis:
    Research from twin and family studies suggests a moderate genetic component to gender identity.
  • Hormonal pathways:
    Early research identified differences in brain pathways, such as estrogen receptor pathways, in transgender individuals.
  • Physiological responses:
    Studies on brain activation, like the hypothalamus response to pheromones, show that transgender individuals often react in a way that aligns with their gender identity.
Expert consensus
  • Complex origins:
    Most experts believe that biological factors, such as genetic influences and prenatal hormone levels, along with early and later life experiences, all contribute to the formation of transgender identities.
  • Gender identity versus physical sex:
    Scientific and medical organizations emphasize that gender identity is a function of the brain, not physical anatomy like genitals or chromosomes.
Ongoing research
  • Continued study:
    While current research strongly supports a biological basis for transgender identity, more research is needed to fully understand all the factors involved.
  • Brain differences are not the whole story:
    Some studies have found inconsistencies and limitations in current findings regarding brain differences.


Just to be clear, you believe this post - which you copied from Google AI - proves what exactly? That a biological man can be a woman? That not pretending a biological man can become a woman is cruel?

Ues

Not following you. Please clarify and please answer my questions.
Mothra
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Redbrickbear said:



Bingo. Indeed, it was (and is).
Jack Bauer
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This is a boys HS team....does anyone think any women's team at any level could beat them?

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Waco1947 said:

  • Brain structure:
    Neuroimaging studies have found that the brains of transgender individuals are structurally more similar to the brains of the gender they identify with, not the sex they were assigned at birth.
  • Prenatal factors:
    Some theories propose that transgender identities may be influenced by factors like prenatal hormone levels, as the brain develops separately from the genitals.
  • Genetic basis:
    Research from twin and family studies suggests a moderate genetic component to gender identity.
  • Hormonal pathways:
    Early research identified differences in brain pathways, such as estrogen receptor pathways, in transgender individuals.
  • Physiological responses:
    Studies on brain activation, like the hypothalamus response to pheromones, show that transgender individuals often react in a way that aligns with their gender identity.
Expert consensus
  • Complex origins:
    Most experts believe that biological factors, such as genetic influences and prenatal hormone levels, along with early and later life experiences, all contribute to the formation of transgender identities.
  • Gender identity versus physical sex:
    Scientific and medical organizations emphasize that gender identity is a function of the brain, not physical anatomy like genitals or chromosomes.
Ongoing research
  • Continued study:
    While current research strongly supports a biological basis for transgender identity, more research is needed to fully understand all the factors involved.
  • Brain differences are not the whole story:
    Some studies have found inconsistencies and limitations in current findings regarding brain differences.



Tier-three sex offender Richard Kenneth Cox exposed his ***** multiple times to women and girls throughout Northern Virginia in recreational locker rooms last year. Cox, who is now facing 28 counts of possessing child porn, taking indecent liberties with children, indecent exposure, and being within 100 feet of schools, identifies as a woman. Dozens of his victims have seen evidence that proves otherwise.
Waco1947
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Osodecentx said:

Waco1947 said:

  • Brain structure:
    Neuroimaging studies have found that the brains of transgender individuals are structurally more similar to the brains of the gender they identify with, not the sex they were assigned at birth.
  • Prenatal factors:
    Some theories propose that transgender identities may be influenced by factors like prenatal hormone levels, as the brain develops separately from the genitals.
  • Genetic basis:
    Research from twin and family studies suggests a moderate genetic component to gender identity.
  • Hormonal pathways:
    Early research identified differences in brain pathways, such as estrogen receptor pathways, in transgender individuals.
  • Physiological responses:
    Studies on brain activation, like the hypothalamus response to pheromones, show that transgender individuals often react in a way that aligns with their gender identity.
Expert consensus
  • Complex origins:
    Most experts believe that biological factors, such as genetic influences and prenatal hormone levels, along with early and later life experiences, all contribute to the formation of transgender identities.
  • Gender identity versus physical sex:
    Scientific and medical organizations emphasize that gender identity is a function of the brain, not physical anatomy like genitals or chromosomes.
Ongoing research
  • Continued study:
    While current research strongly supports a biological basis for transgender identity, more research is needed to fully understand all the factors involved.
  • Brain differences are not the whole story:
    Some studies have found inconsistencies and limitations in current findings regarding brain differences.



Tier-three sex offender Richard Kenneth Cox exposed his ***** multiple times to women and girls throughout Northern Virginia in recreational locker rooms last year. Cox, who is now facing 28 counts of possessing child porn, taking indecent liberties with children, indecent exposure, and being within 100 feet of schools, identifies as a woman. Dozens of his victims have seen evidence that proves otherwise.
then prosecuted his ass that has nothing to do with transgender as an in science
Waco1947
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Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

HB "
Let me explain how science works. The scientific method was invented by Francis Bacon and involves (simplified):
1. Making a hypothesis
2. Testing the hypothesis with experiments
3. Collecting and analyzing data
4. Drawing conclusions based on said data
5. Testing conclusions
6. Repeat

Science does not equal an opinion. Science is based on data and facts. Just like "racism, fascism, sexism, homophobia, hate, etc." does not mean "anything I disagree with," actual science does not mean "anything I agree with." You are relying on T'SCIENCE just like you love T'RACISM! What the heck are these terms?

Science does not equal an opinion about transgender people, like your opinion on transgenderism is not based on facts and data, but prejudice. You're relying on T'transgenderism.
Here's the science
  • Brain structure:
    Neuroimaging studies have found that the brains of transgender individuals are structurally more similar to the brains of the gender they identify with, not the sex they were assigned at birth.
  • Prenatal factors:
    Some theories propose that transgender identities may be influenced by factors like prenatal hormone levels, as the brain develops separately from the genitals.
  • Genetic basis:
    Research from twin and family studies suggests a moderate genetic component to gender identity.
  • Hormonal pathways:
    Early research identified differences in brain pathways, such as estrogen receptor pathways, in transgender individuals.
  • Physiological responses:
    Studies on brain activation, like the hypothalamus response to pheromones, show that transgender individuals often react in a way that aligns with their gender identity.
Expert consensus
  • Complex origins:
    Most experts believe that biological factors, such as genetic influences and prenatal hormone levels, along with early and later life experiences, all contribute to the formation of transgender identities.
  • Gender identity versus physical sex:
    Scientific and medical organizations emphasize that gender identity is a function of the brain, not physical anatomy like genitals or chromosomes.
Ongoing research
  • Continued study:
    While current research strongly supports a biological basis for transgender identity, more research is needed to fully understand all the factors involved.
  • Brain differences are not the whole story:
    Some studies have found inconsistencies and limitations in current findings regarding brain differences.


Just to be clear, you believe this post - which you copied from Google AI - proves what exactly? That a biological man can be a woman? That not pretending a biological man can become a woman is cruel?

Ues

Not following you. Please clarify and please answer my questions.
So I copied it from Google. It is still the truth about science and transgender. Pretending as a prejudicial word and certainly not a part of a rational discussion one does not start with one's prejudice is about transgender that starts with the science behind it. Mental health and sexual understanding to who we are are grounded in psychology and not simply biology.
J.R.
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fair warning peeps. stay away from the less the 1/2% who identify as trans. Queer bogey man gonna get the gay on homophobes
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Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

HB "
Let me explain how science works. The scientific method was invented by Francis Bacon and involves (simplified):
1. Making a hypothesis
2. Testing the hypothesis with experiments
3. Collecting and analyzing data
4. Drawing conclusions based on said data
5. Testing conclusions
6. Repeat

Science does not equal an opinion. Science is based on data and facts. Just like "racism, fascism, sexism, homophobia, hate, etc." does not mean "anything I disagree with," actual science does not mean "anything I agree with." You are relying on T'SCIENCE just like you love T'RACISM! What the heck are these terms?

Science does not equal an opinion about transgender people, like your opinion on transgenderism is not based on facts and data, but prejudice. You're relying on T'transgenderism.
Here's the science
  • Brain structure:
    Neuroimaging studies have found that the brains of transgender individuals are structurally more similar to the brains of the gender they identify with, not the sex they were assigned at birth.
  • Prenatal factors:
    Some theories propose that transgender identities may be influenced by factors like prenatal hormone levels, as the brain develops separately from the genitals.
  • Genetic basis:
    Research from twin and family studies suggests a moderate genetic component to gender identity.
  • Hormonal pathways:
    Early research identified differences in brain pathways, such as estrogen receptor pathways, in transgender individuals.
  • Physiological responses:
    Studies on brain activation, like the hypothalamus response to pheromones, show that transgender individuals often react in a way that aligns with their gender identity.
Expert consensus
  • Complex origins:
    Most experts believe that biological factors, such as genetic influences and prenatal hormone levels, along with early and later life experiences, all contribute to the formation of transgender identities.
  • Gender identity versus physical sex:
    Scientific and medical organizations emphasize that gender identity is a function of the brain, not physical anatomy like genitals or chromosomes.
Ongoing research
  • Continued study:
    While current research strongly supports a biological basis for transgender identity, more research is needed to fully understand all the factors involved.
  • Brain differences are not the whole story:
    Some studies have found inconsistencies and limitations in current findings regarding brain differences.


Just to be clear, you believe this post - which you copied from Google AI - proves what exactly? That a biological man can be a woman? That not pretending a biological man can become a woman is cruel?

Ues

Not following you. Please clarify and please answer my questions.

So I copied it from Google. It is still the truth about science and transgender. Pretending as a prejudicial word and certainly not a part of a rational discussion one does not start with one's prejudice is about transgender that starts with the science behind it. Mental health and sexual understanding to who we are are grounded in psychology and not simply biology.

Incorrect. Gender dysphoria is a documented mental illness in the DSM. There is no science that has changed that just politicized special interest groups. To think it is not a mental health issue to believe you're sex is incorrect is to deny common sense. No amount of you posting it is not will change what everyone can see with their eyes.

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J.R. said:

fair warning peeps. stay away from the less the 1/2% who identify as trans. Queer bogey man gonna get the gay on homophobes

You and 47 need to get a room
"An unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates
Waco1947
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

HB "
Let me explain how science works. The scientific method was invented by Francis Bacon and involves (simplified):
1. Making a hypothesis
2. Testing the hypothesis with experiments
3. Collecting and analyzing data
4. Drawing conclusions based on said data
5. Testing conclusions
6. Repeat

Science does not equal an opinion. Science is based on data and facts. Just like "racism, fascism, sexism, homophobia, hate, etc." does not mean "anything I disagree with," actual science does not mean "anything I agree with." You are relying on T'SCIENCE just like you love T'RACISM! What the heck are these terms?

Science does not equal an opinion about transgender people, like your opinion on transgenderism is not based on facts and data, but prejudice. You're relying on T'transgenderism.
Here's the science
  • Brain structure:
    Neuroimaging studies have found that the brains of transgender individuals are structurally more similar to the brains of the gender they identify with, not the sex they were assigned at birth.
  • Prenatal factors:
    Some theories propose that transgender identities may be influenced by factors like prenatal hormone levels, as the brain develops separately from the genitals.
  • Genetic basis:
    Research from twin and family studies suggests a moderate genetic component to gender identity.
  • Hormonal pathways:
    Early research identified differences in brain pathways, such as estrogen receptor pathways, in transgender individuals.
  • Physiological responses:
    Studies on brain activation, like the hypothalamus response to pheromones, show that transgender individuals often react in a way that aligns with their gender identity.
Expert consensus
  • Complex origins:
    Most experts believe that biological factors, such as genetic influences and prenatal hormone levels, along with early and later life experiences, all contribute to the formation of transgender identities.
  • Gender identity versus physical sex:
    Scientific and medical organizations emphasize that gender identity is a function of the brain, not physical anatomy like genitals or chromosomes.
Ongoing research
  • Continued study:
    While current research strongly supports a biological basis for transgender identity, more research is needed to fully understand all the factors involved.
  • Brain differences are not the whole story:
    Some studies have found inconsistencies and limitations in current findings regarding brain differences.


Just to be clear, you believe this post - which you copied from Google AI - proves what exactly? That a biological man can be a woman? That not pretending a biological man can become a woman is cruel?

Ues

Not following you. Please clarify and please answer my questions.

So I copied it from Google. It is still the truth about science and transgender. Pretending as a prejudicial word and certainly not a part of a rational discussion one does not start with one's prejudice is about transgender that starts with the science behind it. Mental health and sexual understanding to who we are are grounded in psychology and not simply biology.

Incorrect. Gender dysphoria is a documented mental illness in the DSM. There is no science that has changed that just politicized special interest groups. To think it is not a mental health issue to believe you're sex is incorrect is to deny common sense. No amount of you posting it is not will change what everyone can see with their eyes.



It is only a mental illness when the "fact" of their transgendered is creates distress as one comes to term with it. In and of itself transgenderism is not a mental illness. You've turned it upside down to match your ideology. If one has the fact of cancer which results in a deep abiding despair then the cancer is not in and of itself a mental illness rather the incongruence of health and the threat of death results in clinical depression. The cancer is not mental illness.

Gender dysphoria: A diagnosis in the DSM-5-TR defined as clinically significant distress or impairment due to gender incongruence, which may include a desire to change primary and/or secondary sex characteristics. Not all transgender or gender diverse people experience gender dysphoria.
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Assassin said:

J.R. said:

fair warning peeps. stay away from the less the 1/2% who identify as trans. Queer bogey man gonna get the gay on homophobes

You and 47 need to get a room

yep and I'm gonna rub that queer all over me!
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J.R. said:

fair warning peeps. stay away from the less the 1/2% who identify as trans. Queer bogey man gonna get the gay on homophobes


If trans have a legal right to be in your daughters' locker rooms, the daughters can't stay away
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Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

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Waco1947 said:

HB "
Let me explain how science works. The scientific method was invented by Francis Bacon and involves (simplified):
1. Making a hypothesis
2. Testing the hypothesis with experiments
3. Collecting and analyzing data
4. Drawing conclusions based on said data
5. Testing conclusions
6. Repeat

Science does not equal an opinion. Science is based on data and facts. Just like "racism, fascism, sexism, homophobia, hate, etc." does not mean "anything I disagree with," actual science does not mean "anything I agree with." You are relying on T'SCIENCE just like you love T'RACISM! What the heck are these terms?

Science does not equal an opinion about transgender people, like your opinion on transgenderism is not based on facts and data, but prejudice. You're relying on T'transgenderism.
Here's the science
  • Brain structure:
    Neuroimaging studies have found that the brains of transgender individuals are structurally more similar to the brains of the gender they identify with, not the sex they were assigned at birth.
  • Prenatal factors:
    Some theories propose that transgender identities may be influenced by factors like prenatal hormone levels, as the brain develops separately from the genitals.
  • Genetic basis:
    Research from twin and family studies suggests a moderate genetic component to gender identity.
  • Hormonal pathways:
    Early research identified differences in brain pathways, such as estrogen receptor pathways, in transgender individuals.
  • Physiological responses:
    Studies on brain activation, like the hypothalamus response to pheromones, show that transgender individuals often react in a way that aligns with their gender identity.
Expert consensus
  • Complex origins:
    Most experts believe that biological factors, such as genetic influences and prenatal hormone levels, along with early and later life experiences, all contribute to the formation of transgender identities.
  • Gender identity versus physical sex:
    Scientific and medical organizations emphasize that gender identity is a function of the brain, not physical anatomy like genitals or chromosomes.
Ongoing research
  • Continued study:
    While current research strongly supports a biological basis for transgender identity, more research is needed to fully understand all the factors involved.
  • Brain differences are not the whole story:
    Some studies have found inconsistencies and limitations in current findings regarding brain differences.


Just to be clear, you believe this post - which you copied from Google AI - proves what exactly? That a biological man can be a woman? That not pretending a biological man can become a woman is cruel?

Ues

Not following you. Please clarify and please answer my questions.

So I copied it from Google. It is still the truth about science and transgender. Pretending as a prejudicial word and certainly not a part of a rational discussion one does not start with one's prejudice is about transgender that starts with the science behind it. Mental health and sexual understanding to who we are are grounded in psychology and not simply biology.

Incorrect. Gender dysphoria is a documented mental illness in the DSM. There is no science that has changed that just politicized special interest groups. To think it is not a mental health issue to believe you're sex is incorrect is to deny common sense. No amount of you posting it is not will change what everyone can see with their eyes.



It is only a mental illness when the "fact" of their transgendered is creates distress as one comes to term with it. In and of itself transgenderism is not a mental illness. You've turned it upside down to match your ideology. If one has the fact of cancer which results in a deep abiding despair then the cancer is not in and of itself a mental illness rather the incongruence of health and the threat of death results in clinical depression. The cancer is not mental illness.

Gender dysphoria: A diagnosis in the DSM-5-TR defined as clinically significant distress or impairment due to gender incongruence, which may include a desire to change primary and/or secondary sex characteristics. Not all transgender or gender diverse people experience gender dysphoria.

If a skinny woman thinks she's fat, she has a mental illness.

If a dude with a pecker thinks he's a woman, he has a mental illness.

If a dude wants to say he's a girl to shower with young girls he's a pervert and a predator.

This. Is. No. Hard.
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https://www.nationalreview.com/news/maryland-middle-school-gives-male-students-ultimatum-share-locker-room-with-a-girl-or-change-elsewhere/

A Maryland school district is forcing middle school boys to choose between sharing their locker room with a girl or changing elsewhere and risking being late for class, according to a Title IX complaint filed Friday.

When male students at West Middle School toured locker room facilities last September in preparation for the school year, the boys noticed something strange: a girl was on the tour.

One concerned boy immediately alerted his parents and met with the school's principal and school counselor only to be told that Carroll County Public Schools permits students to use whichever facilities correspond to their gender identity, according to the complaint filed by the Defense of Freedom Institute.
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Mitch Blood Green
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We put a lot of energy into threads about gay and trans people.

I bet two climate changes and one mRNA vaccination that most of us will not meet trans person in the next 5 years.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

We put a lot of energy into threads about gay and trans people.

I bet two climate changes and one mRNA vaccination that most of us will not meet trans person in the next 5 years.

Dude, we just had lunch a couple of weeks ago.

Oh crap, wasnt sure if you came out yet...
"An unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates
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Mitch Blood Green said:

We put a lot of energy into threads about gay and trans people.

I bet two climate changes and one mRNA vaccination that most of us will not meet trans person in the next 5 years.


I'll raise 1 orchiectomy, 2 mastectomies, & 1 Vaginoplasty
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Assassin said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

We put a lot of energy into threads about gay and trans people.

I bet two climate changes and one mRNA vaccination that most of us will not meet trans person in the next 5 years.

Dude, we just had lunch a couple of weeks ago.

Oh crap, wasnt sure if you came out yet...


I've always been very open that I'm one cock away from being gay.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

The argument in the title is disingenuous. The truth is there have been men who pretended to be women. The vast vast majority knew that they were men. The ones that didn't know that they were men, were correctly diagnosed with a mental problem.

Pretending to be a woman used to be laughed at in comedy and overlooked in day-to-day encounters. But then, PROGRESSIVES started arguing that they were in fact women. They lied, and they created a whole class of men who pretend to be women AND expect you to pretend as well. They went to war against women in the name of wokeness. They went in to the schools to groom the kids and force their nonsense on the kids. Now PROGRESSIVES want you to continue to lie, they know very well that men can't become women, they just want everyone to play pretend. The sad part is so many Americans were dumb enough to parrot it AND argue for it.

Progressives. the below are who they are, complete liars, don't care what nonsense comes out of their mouths in defense of gender bending:

Pennsylvania Democrat while defending trans athletes: "Female bodies are just as strong, fast, and capable as male bodies"
https://notthebee.com/article/pennsylvania-democrat-defends-trans-athletes-female-bodies-are-just-as-strong-fast-and-capable-as-male-bodies

I have no issues with someone wanting to be the opposite sex, just don't pay for it from taxes and don't let them compete against naturally born people.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

We put a lot of energy into threads about gay and trans people.

I bet two climate changes and one mRNA vaccination that most of us will not meet trans person in the next 5 years.


interesting take.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

We put a lot of energy into threads about gay and trans people.

I bet two climate changes and one mRNA vaccination that most of us will not meet trans person in the next 5 years.

Does it matter?
Mitch Blood Green
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FLBear5630 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

We put a lot of energy into threads about gay and trans people.

I bet two climate changes and one mRNA vaccination that most of us will not meet trans person in the next 5 years.

Does it matter?


Maybe not. Just shows how focused we are on things that don't affect us. There's nothing about two guys getting married that affects me and dude becoming a woman? Same.
 
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