https://heyjackass.com/

BellCountyBear said:

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https://heyjackass.com/

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Democrats

I thought about saying corrupt democrats but that would be redundant

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BellCountyBear said:

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I'm just guessing but I'd say 85%+ of those shooters or shooting victims came from single parent homes. No data, just my hunch.

Too many Saint George Floyds?

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Too many Saint George Floyds?

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Are you speaking of race or culture? The Ben Carson in me would like to know.

Too many White Nationalists dominating Chicago area politics.

KaiBear said:

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Too many White Nationalists dominating Chicago area politics.

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I hate Illinois NAZIs

chicago, austin, denver, san fran, LA, portland, new york, seattle, .................

- el KKM

D!

A better question is why do the decided majority of voters in these blue cities just keep robotically voting for this crap?

Johnny Bear said:

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A better question is why do the decided majority of voters in these blue cities just keep robotically voting for this crap?

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They prioritize the few crumbs they receive from their Dem leadership.

Johnny Bear said:

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A better question is why do the decided majority of voters in these blue cities just keep robotically voting for this crap?

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Because the Dems want to blame others and those voting for dems don't want to take any responsibility for their own situations.

Ask yourself "are the negatives in my life the results of my actions or the results of someone else's actions?" Based on how that question is answered I can probably guess how you vote.

Bremond .............

- el KKM

.... or Bust!

D!!

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chicago, austin, denver, san fran, LA, portland, new york, seattle, .................

- el KKM

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New Orleans, Memphis, Atlanta, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Detroit

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A better question is why do the decided majority of voters in these blue cities just keep robotically voting for this crap?

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They want that obama phone

Things are not so bad in Chicago that the people think a Republican would make them better.

And this thread and its responses demonstrate why Republicans don't have a chance in many of these cities. Republicans often forget their core values, this being a great example. Poor behavior from certain communities is seen as fixable by Republicans, as if now big government can fix culture and ingrained behavior.

The best way for the government to fix a backwards culture of violence is to fix poverty, which is directly tied to education. And Republicans are generally seen as wanting to destroy public education, while Democrats are seen as wanting to fix it.

And as I said earlier, if you had spent time in these cities, you'd know lots of residents never encounter all this violence. The deeply impoverished neighborhoods are largely segregated, and everyone knows where to avoid.

These murder rates are not the murder rate of the general populace, but of select communities in generational poverty, every last one. It's largely poor blacks killing other poor blacks.

Porteroso said:

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The best way for the government to fix a backwards culture of violence is to fix poverty, which is directly tied to education. And Republicans are generally seen as wanting to destroy public education, while Democrats are seen as wanting to fix it.

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Oh really? Excuse me, but which party is in favor of school choice and bending over backwards to help poverty afflicted youth attend better and more effective schools, and which party is politically married to the teachers' unions and hell bent on maintaining the failing schools (especially in impoverished areas) status quo? Furthermore the dims have been promising to "fix" education, along with everything else for impoverished minorities for more than six decades and things have only gotten progressively worse. And when has the dims attempt to to "fix" anything ever resulted in anything other than failure plus the creation of additional problems that didn't already exist? Which brings me back to the question again - when is the majority in any of these blue cities ever going to put two and two together and change their voting habits?

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Things are not so bad in Chicago that the people think a Republican would make them better.

And this thread and its responses demonstrate why Republicans don't have a chance in many of these cities. Republicans often forget their core values, this being a great example. Poor behavior from certain communities is seen as fixable by Republicans, as if now big government can fix culture and ingrained behavior.

The best way for the government to fix a backwards culture of violence is to fix poverty, which is directly tied to education. And Republicans are generally seen as wanting to destroy public education, while Democrats are seen as wanting to fix it.

And as I said earlier, if you had spent time in these cities, you'd know lots of residents never encounter all this violence. The deeply impoverished neighborhoods are largely segregated, and everyone knows where to avoid.

These murder rates are not the murder rate of the general populace, but of select communities in generational poverty, every last one. It's largely poor blacks killing other poor blacks.

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You say "And this thread and its responses demonstrate why Republicans don't have a chance in many of these cities. Republicans often forget their core values, this being a great example. Poor behavior from certain communities is seen as fixable by Republicans, as if now big government can fix culture and ingrained behavior.

The best way for the government to fix a backwards culture of violence is to fix poverty, which is directly tied to education. And Republicans are generally seen as wanting to destroy public education, while Democrats are seen as wanting to fix it."

What has a larger impact on one's culture and its impact, family (or lack of) or the school system?

Who has more of an impact on dry-humping at a street party, family (or lack of) or the school system?

WHO has more impact on drive-by shootings?

There's a list a mile long that these same two things that can be compared.

Leaving faith out of it, there are two main fixes
1) a mother AND father in the house
2) enforcement of law

New York was a cesspool and Giuliani cleaned it up with strict enforcement of every law. It raised the expectations and it moved some of the trouble-makers on because they didn't want to deal with the cops.

How is a school gonna fix a 8itch or h0e that's more concerned about street cred than learning?
How is a school gonna fix a ni88a or pimp that's more concerned about carrying a bag, body count swag?

Schools are not equipped and will never be equipped for that.

Answer this one, how do you get a person to change their priorities to something more than 1 hour away?

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Things are not so bad in Chicago that the people think a Republican would make them better.

And this thread and its responses demonstrate why Republicans don't have a chance in many of these cities. Republicans often forget their core values, this being a great example. Poor behavior from certain communities is seen as fixable by Republicans, as if now big government can fix culture and ingrained behavior.

The best way for the government to fix a backwards culture of violence is to fix poverty, which is directly tied to education. And Republicans are generally seen as wanting to destroy public education, while Democrats are seen as wanting to fix it.

And as I said earlier, if you had spent time in these cities, you'd know lots of residents never encounter all this violence. The deeply impoverished neighborhoods are largely segregated, and everyone knows where to avoid.

These murder rates are not the murder rate of the general populace, but of select communities in generational poverty, every last one. It's largely poor blacks killing other poor blacks.

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Exactly which cities have you ever worked in for over 2 weeks ?

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Too many Saint George Floyds?

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Are you speaking of race or culture? The Ben Carson in me would like to know.

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Bleks. Bleks are the problem. Everywhere they go they are the problem. Find one city that is majority blek that is not a complete ****-show.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Too many Saint George Floyds?

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Are you speaking of race or culture? The Ben Carson in me would like to know.

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Bleks. Bleks are the problem. Everywhere they go they are the problem. Find one city that is majority blek that is not a complete ****-show.

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So if it's not culture then it's a pigmentation issue?

Chicago, the sanctuary city, has now added Texas Democrat legislators to its protection racket list.

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The best way for the government to fix a backwards culture of violence is to fix poverty, which is directly tied to education.

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I think you have identified in one sentence why progressivism always fails. This statement could not be more wrong. Education is incapable of reforming character. Nor is it capable of banishing the poverty born of a dysfunctional culture.

Even TR, progressive as he was, recognized this partially.

"To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society."
- Theodore Roosevelt

His error was the belief that moral education as opposed to conversion was capable of reforming character.

There is a fundamental difference between a man who does not steal or kill because he follows the author of the Ten Commandments and one who does not because he doesn't think he can get away with it. You can see this in places like Chicago where earthly penalties for stealing below specific dollar amounts have been officially suspended and you have a decent shot of getting away with murder.

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Too many Saint George Floyds?

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Are you speaking of race or culture? The Ben Carson in me would like to know.

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Bleks. Bleks are the problem. Everywhere they go they are the problem. Find one city that is majority blek that is not a complete ****-show.

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So if it's not culture then it's a pigmentation issue?

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Its a low IQ and low impulse control problem. Not all cultures are created equal.

muddybrazos said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Too many Saint George Floyds?

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Are you speaking of race or culture? The Ben Carson in me would like to know.

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Bleks. Bleks are the problem. Everywhere they go they are the problem. Find one city that is majority blek that is not a complete ****-show.

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So if it's not culture then it's a pigmentation issue?

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Its a low IQ and low impulse control problem. Not all cultures are created equal.

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feral.

- el KKM

{ sipping coffee }

{ eating donut }

D!

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Too many Saint George Floyds?

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Are you speaking of race or culture? The Ben Carson in me would like to know.

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Bleks. Bleks are the problem. Everywhere they go they are the problem. Find one city that is majority blek that is not a complete ****-show.

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So if it's not culture then it's a pigmentation issue?

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No it's culture. Can you name one place in the entire world run and dominated by bleks that is not a total ****show?

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Porteroso said:

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Things are not so bad in Chicago that the people think a Republican would make them better.

And this thread and its responses demonstrate why Republicans don't have a chance in many of these cities. Republicans often forget their core values, this being a great example. Poor behavior from certain communities is seen as fixable by Republicans, as if now big government can fix culture and ingrained behavior.

The best way for the government to fix a backwards culture of violence is to fix poverty, which is directly tied to education. And Republicans are generally seen as wanting to destroy public education, while Democrats are seen as wanting to fix it.

And as I said earlier, if you had spent time in these cities, you'd know lots of residents never encounter all this violence. The deeply impoverished neighborhoods are largely segregated, and everyone knows where to avoid.

These murder rates are not the murder rate of the general populace, but of select communities in generational poverty, every last one. It's largely poor blacks killing other poor blacks.

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You say "And this thread and its responses demonstrate why Republicans don't have a chance in many of these cities. Republicans often forget their core values, this being a great example. Poor behavior from certain communities is seen as fixable by Republicans, as if now big government can fix culture and ingrained behavior.

The best way for the government to fix a backwards culture of violence is to fix poverty, which is directly tied to education. And Republicans are generally seen as wanting to destroy public education, while Democrats are seen as wanting to fix it."

What has a larger impact on one's culture and its impact, family (or lack of) or the school system?

Who has more of an impact on dry-humping at a street party, family (or lack of) or the school system?

WHO has more impact on drive-by shootings?

There's a list a mile long that these same two things that can be compared.

Leaving faith out of it, there are two main fixes
1) a mother AND father in the house
2) enforcement of law

New York was a cesspool and Giuliani cleaned it up with strict enforcement of every law. It raised the expectations and it moved some of the trouble-makers on because they didn't want to deal with the cops.

How is a school gonna fix a 8itch or h0e that's more concerned about street cred than learning?
How is a school gonna fix a ni88a or pimp that's more concerned about carrying a bag, body count swag?

Schools are not equipped and will never be equipped for that.

Answer this one, how do you get a person to change their priorities to something more than 1 hour away?

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I absolutely agree that culture is often the issue, but I maintain that the government cannot fix culture. What it can do, is improve public education and serve the community better.

KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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Things are not so bad in Chicago that the people think a Republican would make them better.

And this thread and its responses demonstrate why Republicans don't have a chance in many of these cities. Republicans often forget their core values, this being a great example. Poor behavior from certain communities is seen as fixable by Republicans, as if now big government can fix culture and ingrained behavior.

The best way for the government to fix a backwards culture of violence is to fix poverty, which is directly tied to education. And Republicans are generally seen as wanting to destroy public education, while Democrats are seen as wanting to fix it.

And as I said earlier, if you had spent time in these cities, you'd know lots of residents never encounter all this violence. The deeply impoverished neighborhoods are largely segregated, and everyone knows where to avoid.

These murder rates are not the murder rate of the general populace, but of select communities in generational poverty, every last one. It's largely poor blacks killing other poor blacks.

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Exactly which cities have you ever worked in for over 2 weeks ?

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I live in one of the cities mentioned. And I have visited most of the others. Have family in Chicago, so I've heard a lot about the various neighborhoods and politics.

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Porteroso said:

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The best way for the government to fix a backwards culture of violence is to fix poverty, which is directly tied to education.

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I think you have identified in one sentence why progressivism always fails. This statement could not be more wrong. Education is incapable of reforming character. Nor is it capable of banishing the poverty born of a dysfunctional culture.

Even TR, progressive as he was, recognized this partially.

"To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society."
- Theodore Roosevelt

His error was the belief that moral education as opposed to conversion was capable of reforming character.

There is a fundamental difference between a man who does not steal or kill because he follows the author of the Ten Commandments and one who does not because he doesn't think he can get away with it. You can see this in places like Chicago where earthly penalties for stealing below specific dollar amounts have been officially suspended and you have a decent shot of getting away with murder.

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That's a very disjointed post, but the government can only do so much. Rather, I believe in limited government, so it should only do so much. Your answer is essentially that these people need God, in a conversation talking about voting habits, and crime. So are you saying the government needs to inject more religion into people?

Nonstarter for me. That is something for you to do, sure, but not the government.

Porteroso said:

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The best way for the government to fix a backwards culture of violence is to fix poverty, which is directly tied to education. And Republicans are generally seen as wanting to destroy public education, while Democrats are seen as wanting to fix it.

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I'll disagree with you there. Republicans DO want to tear down the existing system that is dominated by a leftist, politically monolithic teachers union that is nothing more than an extension of the Democrat party. They then want to introduce actual market forces into the system. This is a radical change, but one that poor communities can embrace, as seen from the effort that some parents put into sending their kids to charter schools.

Porteroso said:

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Realitybites said:

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Porteroso said:

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The best way for the government to fix a backwards culture of violence is to fix poverty, which is directly tied to education.

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I think you have identified in one sentence why progressivism always fails. This statement could not be more wrong. Education is incapable of reforming character. Nor is it capable of banishing the poverty born of a dysfunctional culture.

Even TR, progressive as he was, recognized this partially.

"To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society."
- Theodore Roosevelt

His error was the belief that moral education as opposed to conversion was capable of reforming character.

There is a fundamental difference between a man who does not steal or kill because he follows the author of the Ten Commandments and one who does not because he doesn't think he can get away with it. You can see this in places like Chicago where earthly penalties for stealing below specific dollar amounts have been officially suspended and you have a decent shot of getting away with murder.

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That's a very disjointed post, but the government can only do so much. Rather, I believe in limited government, so it should only do so much. Your answer is essentially that these people need God, in a conversation talking about voting habits, and crime. So are you saying the government needs to inject more religion into people?

Nonstarter for me. That is something for you to do, sure, but not the government.

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I'm saying that government is incapable of reforming the root causes of what has happened. All it can do is impose the sort of severe penalties that recaliberate the risk benefit analysis of those with an inclination to behave violently.

"I better not chimp out or I'm going to be fed to sharks."

Chicago operates just as envisioned. The Democrats' plantations trap their voters in generational poverty with unspeakable high crime but give them just enough money and drugs to keep them from revolting against their masters - the white liberals.

OsoCoreyell said:

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Porteroso said:

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The best way for the government to fix a backwards culture of violence is to fix poverty, which is directly tied to education. And Republicans are generally seen as wanting to destroy public education, while Democrats are seen as wanting to fix it.

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I'll disagree with you there. Republicans DO want to tear down the existing system that is dominated by a leftist, politically monolithic teachers union that is nothing more than an extension of the Democrat party. They then want to introduce actual market forces into the system. This is a radical change, but one that poor communities can embrace, as seen from the effort that some parents put into sending their kids to charter schools.

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I have not offered up my opinion, but pointed out how pop culture "sees" the 2 parties on education. Obviously there have been some massive charter schools fails as school choice has been introduced, but maybe they are early kinks. Sucks for the children experimented on, but it might result in better education. Some charter schools are doing very well.

Ultimately I think it will be a big mistake, much like the government getting involved in student loans. The costs will balloon, because now the government is involved with guaranteeing a certain amount of money. Say a school was charging 15k per year before, and now the government will pay 5k. Why would they not immediately charge 20k? The students can all pay the 15k right?

I think it's probably the wrong direction, but I will gladly watch it unfold and give it a fair viewing.

Throwing tax dollars at problems is always a lazy way to fix things. That doesn't mean it won't work though.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Too many Saint George Floyds?

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Are you speaking of race or culture? The Ben Carson in me would like to know.

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Bleks. Bleks are the problem. Everywhere they go they are the problem. Find one city that is majority blek that is not a complete ****-show.

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So if it's not culture then it's a pigmentation issue?

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No it's culture. Can you name one place in the entire world run and dominated by bleks that is not a total ****show?

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Are we talking about actual skin color or those who identify as bleks?

BluesBear said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Too many Saint George Floyds?

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Are you speaking of race or culture? The Ben Carson in me would like to know.

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Bleks. Bleks are the problem. Everywhere they go they are the problem. Find one city that is majority blek that is not a complete ****-show.

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So if it's not culture then it's a pigmentation issue?

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No it's culture. Can you name one place in the entire world run and dominated by bleks that is not a total ****show?

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Are we talking about actual skin color or those who identify as bleks?

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Can you name one place in the entire world run and dominated by bleks that is not a total shietshow?

Harrison Bergeron said:

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BluesBear said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Too many Saint George Floyds?

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Are you speaking of race or culture? The Ben Carson in me would like to know.

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Bleks. Bleks are the problem. Everywhere they go they are the problem. Find one city that is majority blek that is not a complete ****-show.

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So if it's not culture then it's a pigmentation issue?

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No it's culture. Can you name one place in the entire world run and dominated by bleks that is not a total ****show?

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Are we talking about actual skin color or those who identify as bleks?

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Can you name one place in the entire world run and dominated by bleks that is not a total shietshow?

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Harrison and Porteroso , do y'all remember growing up with the planned Parenthood clinic down the street? Ya, neither do I.

In the 50's, how did the black families compare to white families?

Did the pigmentation change or the culture? Why?