Biblical Wealth Distribution

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Waco1947
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Poor Kai is preserving racist culture since his birth
Oldbear83
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Waco1947 said:

Poor Kai is preserving racist culture since his birth

There's zero evidence to support that, Waco. Your hatred of Christians, however, is pervasive.
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canoso
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Waco1947 said:

canoso said:

So here's the real question: Does socialism create cheerful givers?

Oh, and another thing. Is socialism the gospel, or "another gospel," aka "anathema"?

Asking fruitful questions is way more important than giving right answers to sterile questions.

So what are your answers?

My answers are immaterial.

God's statements are "no" and "another gospel, aka anathema."
LIB,MR BEARS
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Waco1947 said:

Poor Kai is preserving racist culture since his birth


While you live by and preach the racism of low expectations.
KaiBear
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Waco1947 said:

Poor Kai is preserving racist culture since his birth


LOL

In your racist lower strata the only thing you want from white culture is money.

To save you from the failures of your own choices.



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Socialists Ard the greediest people anywhere. They are always trying to find to steal what others have earned and then virtue signaling about their crimes. They are also the greatest of hypocrites.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
ScottS
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Waco1947 said:

historian said:

Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

canoso said:

Waco1947 said:

Another passage the Evangelicals will ignore because they can't justify their judgmental views of poverty.
Deuteronomy 15:7 After the Lord your God gives land to each of you, there may be poor Israelites in the town where you live. If there are, then don't be mean and selfish with your money.
8 Instead, be kind and lend them what they need.
9 Be careful! Don't say to yourself, "Soon it will be the seventh year, and then I won't be able to get my money back." It would be horrible for you to think that way and to be so selfish that you refuse to help the poor. They are your relatives, and if you don't help them, they may ask the Lord to decide whether you have done wrong. And he will say that you are guilty.
107 After the Lord your God gives land to each of you, there may be poor Israelites in the town where you live. If there are, then don't be mean and selfish with your money. 8 Instead, be kind and lend them what they need. 9 Be careful! Don't say to yourself, "Soon it will be the seventh year, and then I won't be able to get my money back." It would be horrible for you to think that way and to be so selfish that you refuse to help the poor. They are your relatives, and if you don't help them, they may ask the Lord to decide whether you have done wrong. And he will say that you are guilty. 10 You should be happy to give the poor what they need, because then the Lord will make you successful in everything you do.
11 There will always be some Israelites who are poor and needy. That's why I am commanding you to be generous with them. (The Distribution Part)
11 There will always be some Israelites who are poor and needy. That's why I am commanding you to be generous with them.

We need to see where in Scripture people were obligated (read "forced," as through taxation) to do these things. Ready, set, GO!

The Deut passage is from the mouth of God. It is a commandment by God, which is "forcing" you unless you don't believe in God's commandment, then take it up with God. Deut. 15: 10 You should be happy to give the poor what they need, because then the Lord will make you successful in everything you do. Taxation, or paying out of your pocket, does not matter. Give to the poor by taxation, or your local food pantry, or Habitat for Humanity. God does not care.
It's a silly canard always brought up by Conservative Christians. God says give to the poor whether personally or through taxation. It is simple: "Give to the poor happily."




God says give them what they need, it doesn't say give them all your money.. I did not say that and neither does the text.



So your good then if states don't allow the purchase of food from fast food restaurants using food stamp/EBT cards?

An invalid assumption


Maybe the problem is in how you define "need".

"You should be happy to give the poor what they need, because then the Lord will make you successful in everything you do."

Does the 350lb woman on disability need a BigMac.Probably not. But it is a a great red herring.

Do those grandkids of hers need a happy meal? When I was hungry you gave someting to eat.

Does the televangelist need a G-VI Immaterial to our discussion of the poor.


God doesn't make those distinctions. "When I was hungry, you gave me something to eat."

Jesus did say "you", not "the government". Relying on the government to fulfill your obligations to the poor or anyone else is a cop out. Jesus also said something about visiting people in prison. The warden and guards do not absolve anyone of that responsibility. The same is true even for clothing people, visiting the sick, etc.

Nothing in scripture promoted socialism. The opposite is true. Socialism is evil.

The community was responsible for the widow and the orphan (see Paul). You are so mean-spirited and miserly, Scrooge.


Calling socialism evil is "mean-spirited"? This might be your biggest BS post on this board and that is saying alot as almost all your posts are BS.
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historian said:

Socialists Ard the greediest people anywhere. They are always trying to find to steal what others have earned and then virtue signaling about their crimes. They are also the greatest of hypocrites.


Yep the socialist leaders get rich and the rest of the country starves.
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KaiBear said:

Waco1947 said:

Poor Kai is preserving racist culture since his birth


LOL

In your racist lower strata the only thing you want from white culture is money.

To save you from the failures of your own choices.






That's rich 47 is playing the race card. In my experience, white liberals are the biggest racists on the planet.
Waco1947
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

Poor Kai is preserving racist culture since his birth


While you live by and preach the racism of low expectations.


Simply not true. What is your proof? What studies have been done?
No matter how high their expectations, teachers can't do much about:
  • their pupils' higher rates of lead poisoning that impact cognitive ability;
  • more frequent asthmathe result of living with more pollution, near industrial facilities, in less-well maintained buildings with more vermin in the environmentthat may bring them to school drowsy from being awake at night, wheezing;
  • neighborhoods without supermarkets that sell fresh and healthy food;
  • stress intensified by being stopped and frisked by police without cause, and a discriminatory criminal justice system that disproportionately imprisons their fathers and brothers for trivial offenses;
  • frequent moves due to rising rents, or landlords' failure to keep units in habitable condition;6
  • absenteeism from a need to stay home to care for younger siblings while parents race from one low-wage job to another;
  • poor health from living in neighborhoods with fewer primary care physicians or dentists;
  • lower parental education levels that result in less academic support at home, combined with less adequate access to technology, a problem exacerbated since the pandemic;7
  • and many other socioeconomic impediments to learning.8
Not every Black child suffers from these deprivations that affect their ability to take full advantage of the education that schools offer. But many do. Concentrating disadvantaged pupils in poorly resourced schools in poorly resourced and segregated neighborhoods overwhelms instructional and support staff. Economic Policy Institue
KaiBear
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ScottS said:

KaiBear said:

Waco1947 said:

Poor Kai is preserving racist culture since his birth


LOL

In your racist lower strata the only thing you want from white culture is money.

To save you from the failures of your own choices.






That's rich 47 is playing the race card. In my experience, white liberals are the biggest racists on the planet.


5th place at worst.
canoso
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Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

Poor Kai is preserving racist culture since his birth


While you live by and preach the racism of low expectations.


Simply not true. What is your proof? What studies have been done?
No matter how high their expectations, teachers can't do much about:
  • their pupils' higher rates of lead poisoning that impact cognitive ability;
  • more frequent asthmathe result of living with more pollution, near industrial facilities, in less-well maintained buildings with more vermin in the environmentthat may bring them to school drowsy from being awake at night, wheezing;
  • neighborhoods without supermarkets that sell fresh and healthy food;
  • stress intensified by being stopped and frisked by police without cause, and a discriminatory criminal justice system that disproportionately imprisons their fathers and brothers for trivial offenses;
  • frequent moves due to rising rents, or landlords' failure to keep units in habitable condition;6
  • absenteeism from a need to stay home to care for younger siblings while parents race from one low-wage job to another;
  • poor health from living in neighborhoods with fewer primary care physicians or dentists;
  • lower parental education levels that result in less academic support at home, combined with less adequate access to technology, a problem exacerbated since the pandemic;7
  • and many other socioeconomic impediments to learning.8
Not every Black child suffers from these deprivations that affect their ability to take full advantage of the education that schools offer. But many do. Concentrating disadvantaged pupils in poorly resourced schools in poorly resourced and segregated neighborhoods overwhelms instructional and support staff. Economic Policy Institue
Most if the effects you mention here are from the Great Society and Democrats' steadfast denial of school choice to urban black communities.
LIB,MR BEARS
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Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

Poor Kai is preserving racist culture since his birth


While you live by and preach the racism of low expectations.


Simply not true. What is your proof? What studies have been done?
No matter how high their expectations, teachers can't do much about:
  • their pupils' higher rates of lead poisoning that impact cognitive ability;
  • more frequent asthmathe result of living with more pollution, near industrial facilities, in less-well maintained buildings with more vermin in the environmentthat may bring them to school drowsy from being awake at night, wheezing;
  • neighborhoods without supermarkets that sell fresh and healthy food;
  • stress intensified by being stopped and frisked by police without cause, and a discriminatory criminal justice system that disproportionately imprisons their fathers and brothers for trivial offenses;
  • frequent moves due to rising rents, or landlords' failure to keep units in habitable condition;6
  • absenteeism from a need to stay home to care for younger siblings while parents race from one low-wage job to another;
  • poor health from living in neighborhoods with fewer primary care physicians or dentists;
  • lower parental education levels that result in less academic support at home, combined with less adequate access to technology, a problem exacerbated since the pandemic;7
  • and many other socioeconomic impediments to learning.8
Not every Black child suffers from these deprivations that affect their ability to take full advantage of the education that schools offer. But many do. Concentrating disadvantaged pupils in poorly resourced schools in poorly resourced and segregated neighborhoods overwhelms instructional and support staff. Economic Policy Institue

But what about the trade-offs implemented by the democrats? For example, all the time saved driving across town for an abortion. Dems were thoughtful enough to flood traditionally black neighborhoods with easy access to abortions.

Dems removed the stress of choosing to have an abortion by making it something to be proud of.

Dems made it easier to become a single mom by replacing a husband/dad with a check and food stamps.

Dems have destroyed the black family and now they are working to replace all families with government aid.

NO THANKS
historian
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ScottS said:

Waco1947 said:

historian said:

Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

canoso said:

Waco1947 said:

Another passage the Evangelicals will ignore because they can't justify their judgmental views of poverty.
Deuteronomy 15:7 After the Lord your God gives land to each of you, there may be poor Israelites in the town where you live. If there are, then don't be mean and selfish with your money.
8 Instead, be kind and lend them what they need.
9 Be careful! Don't say to yourself, "Soon it will be the seventh year, and then I won't be able to get my money back." It would be horrible for you to think that way and to be so selfish that you refuse to help the poor. They are your relatives, and if you don't help them, they may ask the Lord to decide whether you have done wrong. And he will say that you are guilty.
107 After the Lord your God gives land to each of you, there may be poor Israelites in the town where you live. If there are, then don't be mean and selfish with your money. 8 Instead, be kind and lend them what they need. 9 Be careful! Don't say to yourself, "Soon it will be the seventh year, and then I won't be able to get my money back." It would be horrible for you to think that way and to be so selfish that you refuse to help the poor. They are your relatives, and if you don't help them, they may ask the Lord to decide whether you have done wrong. And he will say that you are guilty. 10 You should be happy to give the poor what they need, because then the Lord will make you successful in everything you do.
11 There will always be some Israelites who are poor and needy. That's why I am commanding you to be generous with them. (The Distribution Part)
11 There will always be some Israelites who are poor and needy. That's why I am commanding you to be generous with them.

We need to see where in Scripture people were obligated (read "forced," as through taxation) to do these things. Ready, set, GO!

The Deut passage is from the mouth of God. It is a commandment by God, which is "forcing" you unless you don't believe in God's commandment, then take it up with God. Deut. 15: 10 You should be happy to give the poor what they need, because then the Lord will make you successful in everything you do. Taxation, or paying out of your pocket, does not matter. Give to the poor by taxation, or your local food pantry, or Habitat for Humanity. God does not care.
It's a silly canard always brought up by Conservative Christians. God says give to the poor whether personally or through taxation. It is simple: "Give to the poor happily."




God says give them what they need, it doesn't say give them all your money.. I did not say that and neither does the text.



So your good then if states don't allow the purchase of food from fast food restaurants using food stamp/EBT cards?

An invalid assumption


Maybe the problem is in how you define "need".

"You should be happy to give the poor what they need, because then the Lord will make you successful in everything you do."

Does the 350lb woman on disability need a BigMac.Probably not. But it is a a great red herring.

Do those grandkids of hers need a happy meal? When I was hungry you gave someting to eat.

Does the televangelist need a G-VI Immaterial to our discussion of the poor.


God doesn't make those distinctions. "When I was hungry, you gave me something to eat."

Jesus did say "you", not "the government". Relying on the government to fulfill your obligations to the poor or anyone else is a cop out. Jesus also said something about visiting people in prison. The warden and guards do not absolve anyone of that responsibility. The same is true even for clothing people, visiting the sick, etc.

Nothing in scripture promoted socialism. The opposite is true. Socialism is evil.

The community was responsible for the widow and the orphan (see Paul). You are so mean-spirited and miserly, Scrooge.


Calling socialism evil is "mean-spirited"? This might be your biggest BS post on this board and that is saying alot as almost all your posts are BS.

Leftists have difficulty coping with reality. They live in their own fantasies and often get angry when things don't work out. This is why they are always angry: their fantasies (socialism, the trans cult, the climate cult, etc) never align with the real world. Some even throw tantrums and become violent.

"Reality is not optional." Thomas Sowell
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
historian
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Ever since Margaret Sanger started PP, the fascists' primary goal was killing black babies. They rarely admit their enthusiasm for eugenics (RBG did at least once) but it's clear to anyone paying attention and who know what to look for.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Waco1947
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historian said:

Ever since Margaret Sanger started PP, the fascists' primary goal was killing black babies. They rarely admit their enthusiasm for eugenics (RBG did at least once) but it's clear to anyone paying attention and who know what to look for.

Historian, let's have lunch. I live in Houston.
KaiBear
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Careful historian.

Make sure 47 doesn't forget to bring his wallet.
historian
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Thank you for the invitation. I live three hours away and don't go to Houston anymore. I do not see it as a practical possibility.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Waco1947
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historian said:

Thank you for the invitation. I live three hours away and don't go to Houston anymore. I do not see it as a practical possibility.

Waco?
Harrison Bergeron
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Still waiting on Flat Earth to share how much he gives to charity each year.
Harrison Bergeron
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historian said:

Ever since Margaret Sanger started PP, the fascists' primary goal was killing black babies. They rarely admit their enthusiasm for eugenics (RBG did at least once) but it's clear to anyone paying attention and who know what to look for.

They conveniently forget that Margaret Sanger and Hitler were pals. I still remember - the people that claim books are BANNED - that in 2000 the Toledo public library refused to carry a biography of Sangar because of that connection. Most radical leftists live in a world of make believe.
Waco1947
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historian said:

Ever since Margaret Sanger started PP, the fascists' primary goal was killing black babies. They rarely admit their enthusiasm for eugenics (RBG did at least once) but it's clear to anyone paying attention and who know what to look for.

Sanger herself wrote in 1939 that she had joined the Anti-Nazi Committee "and gave money, my name and any influence I had with writers and others, to combat Hitler's rise to power in Germany."
LIB,MR BEARS
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Waco1947 said:

historian said:

Ever since Margaret Sanger started PP, the fascists' primary goal was killing black babies. They rarely admit their enthusiasm for eugenics (RBG did at least once) but it's clear to anyone paying attention and who know what to look for.

Sanger herself wrote in 1939 that she had joined the Anti-Nazi Committee "and gave money, my name and any influence I had with writers and others, to combat Hitler's rise to power in Germany."

So we have Hitler in one corner and Sanger in another. Based on your posting history, I'm struggling to determine which one you support.

Can you help me out with this?
Waco1947
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

historian said:

Ever since Margaret Sanger started PP, the fascists' primary goal was killing black babies. They rarely admit their enthusiasm for eugenics (RBG did at least once) but it's clear to anyone paying attention and who know what to look for.

Sanger herself wrote in 1939 that she had joined the Anti-Nazi Committee "and gave money, my name and any influence I had with writers and others, to combat Hitler's rise to power in Germany."

So we have Hitler in one corner and Sanger in another. Based on your posting history, I'm struggling to determine which one you support.

Can you help me out with this?Nonsensical mid reading.

What does "So we have Hitler in one corner and Sanger in another"? What is in each corner specifically?.?

Sanger's corner says what, and Hitler's corner says what?
historian
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New Braunfels
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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Still waiting on Flat Earth to share how much he gives to charity each year.
 
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