FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
All dumb.
Find someone else to fill I your perpetual dead time.
If I give all your neighbors a PSA to report you should they see you assaulting a child, would I be responsible if some angry dad came and found you and attacked you?FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
If I give all your neighbors a PSA to report you should they see you assaulting a child, would I be responsible if some angry dad came and found you and attacked you?
But what about according to you? You would be fine if we alerted your neighbors to the fact that they should report any assaults you commit on children?FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
If I give all your neighbors a PSA to report you should they see you assaulting a child, would I be responsible if some angry dad came and found you and attacked you?
Well, according to the current believe of this thread, yes. You should be arrested because some whack-job heard you talk about it is the fault of your PSA... Sorry.
Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
If I give all your neighbors a PSA to report you should they see you assaulting a child, would I be responsible if some angry dad came and found you and attacked you?
Well, according to the current believe of this thread, yes. You should be arrested because some whack-job heard you talk about it is the fault of your PSA... Sorry.
But what about according to you? You would be fine if we alerted your neighbors to the fact that they should report any assaults you commit on children?
Oh, they just meant any president in general, not the one specifically in power and leading the party in opposition to their own? Well great! That totally clears everything up! lol, so let's say I don't mention you, I'll just tell your neighbors that anyone who lives in the house you currently live in should be watched in case they decide to molest the neighborhood kids.FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
If I give all your neighbors a PSA to report you should they see you assaulting a child, would I be responsible if some angry dad came and found you and attacked you?
Well, according to the current believe of this thread, yes. You should be arrested because some whack-job heard you talk about it is the fault of your PSA... Sorry.
But what about according to you? You would be fine if we alerted your neighbors to the fact that they should report any assaults you commit on children?
It is not the same since you are specifically naming me. Even so, what could I do about it besides *****? Be pissed at you? If I physically do something to you I will be arrested. I can sue you civilly? I am not sure I would win, you didn't say I did anything. Only "if" I did, you should report it and they should. The only person actually that broke the law is the guy that acted on it, he is going to jail.
Where I think your analogy falls apart is that no one mentioned any names in the PSA. You specifically mentioned my name, so maybe there is some culpability there.
Now, if you said in your PSA "to report anyone they see assaulting a child" that would be closer to what was said. The PSA everyone is so hyped up about only referenced an existing rule in the UCMJ. They did not mention any specific order or a specific person. Not really sure why everyone on here is upset. It is one that GOP should have said, "well played" and let it drop... It was a clever shot with very little risk.
Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
If I give all your neighbors a PSA to report you should they see you assaulting a child, would I be responsible if some angry dad came and found you and attacked you?
Well, according to the current believe of this thread, yes. You should be arrested because some whack-job heard you talk about it is the fault of your PSA... Sorry.
But what about according to you? You would be fine if we alerted your neighbors to the fact that they should report any assaults you commit on children?
It is not the same since you are specifically naming me. Even so, what could I do about it besides *****? Be pissed at you? If I physically do something to you I will be arrested. I can sue you civilly? I am not sure I would win, you didn't say I did anything. Only "if" I did, you should report it and they should. The only person actually that broke the law is the guy that acted on it, he is going to jail.
Where I think your analogy falls apart is that no one mentioned any names in the PSA. You specifically mentioned my name, so maybe there is some culpability there.
Now, if you said in your PSA "to report anyone they see assaulting a child" that would be closer to what was said. The PSA everyone is so hyped up about only referenced an existing rule in the UCMJ. They did not mention any specific order or a specific person. Not really sure why everyone on here is upset. It is one that GOP should have said, "well played" and let it drop... It was a clever shot with very little risk.
Oh, they just meant any president in general, not the one specifically in power and leading the party in opposition to their own? Well great! That totally clears everything up! lol, so let's say I don't mention you, I'll just tell your neighbors that anyone who lives in the house you currently live in should be watched in case they decide to molest the neighborhood kids.
I knew I could get you to say "they weren't specific!".
The truth is the analogy would have worked better had I suggested we tell the people at your work that report to you to watch you for fraud and to not do anything you tell them that might get them fired. I'm sure that would be great for your career.
But you and I both know that any example I give to show you how egregious the behavior of those senators was you'd make excuses for them. Then you'll hide behind claims of being a conservative yourself. Wash rinse repeat.
yeah: no big deal. Except when it comes to the president of the United States and his ability to command the troops. You fully understand the absurdity of an unnecessary PSA, you fully understand the intent behind that specific PSA regarding the president, you fully understand that the rest of us see it too. Any time there's a coup it's always the military against the administration it was supposed to support. It's not some crazy conspiracy, it's actual history from around the world all through time. The behavior of those senators was seditious and should be treated as such. Even if you want to pretend otherwise.FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
If I give all your neighbors a PSA to report you should they see you assaulting a child, would I be responsible if some angry dad came and found you and attacked you?
Well, according to the current believe of this thread, yes. You should be arrested because some whack-job heard you talk about it is the fault of your PSA... Sorry.
But what about according to you? You would be fine if we alerted your neighbors to the fact that they should report any assaults you commit on children?
It is not the same since you are specifically naming me. Even so, what could I do about it besides *****? Be pissed at you? If I physically do something to you I will be arrested. I can sue you civilly? I am not sure I would win, you didn't say I did anything. Only "if" I did, you should report it and they should. The only person actually that broke the law is the guy that acted on it, he is going to jail.
Where I think your analogy falls apart is that no one mentioned any names in the PSA. You specifically mentioned my name, so maybe there is some culpability there.
Now, if you said in your PSA "to report anyone they see assaulting a child" that would be closer to what was said. The PSA everyone is so hyped up about only referenced an existing rule in the UCMJ. They did not mention any specific order or a specific person. Not really sure why everyone on here is upset. It is one that GOP should have said, "well played" and let it drop... It was a clever shot with very little risk.
Oh, they just meant any president in general, not the one specifically in power and leading the party in opposition to their own? Well great! That totally clears everything up! lol, so let's say I don't mention you, I'll just tell your neighbors that anyone who lives in the house you currently live in should be watched in case they decide to molest the neighborhood kids.
I knew I could get you to say "they weren't specific!".
The truth is the analogy would have worked better had I suggested we tell the people at your work that report to you to watch you for fraud and to not do anything you tell them that might get them fired. I'm sure that would be great for your career.
But you and I both know that any example I give to show you how egregious the behavior of those senators was you'd make excuses for them. Then you'll hide behind claims of being a conservative yourself. Wash rinse repeat.
Yeah, that analogy is better. Poor taste, said that numerous times. Criminal? No. Keep in mind Trump didn't go to that it is wrong, he went to sedition and death penalty. It was not seditious, it didn't tell anyone to overthrow an election or anything. It was a nasty message about someone they hate, the feelings are both ways. You guys are making ALOT out of nothing.
Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
If I give all your neighbors a PSA to report you should they see you assaulting a child, would I be responsible if some angry dad came and found you and attacked you?
Well, according to the current believe of this thread, yes. You should be arrested because some whack-job heard you talk about it is the fault of your PSA... Sorry.
But what about according to you? You would be fine if we alerted your neighbors to the fact that they should report any assaults you commit on children?
It is not the same since you are specifically naming me. Even so, what could I do about it besides *****? Be pissed at you? If I physically do something to you I will be arrested. I can sue you civilly? I am not sure I would win, you didn't say I did anything. Only "if" I did, you should report it and they should. The only person actually that broke the law is the guy that acted on it, he is going to jail.
Where I think your analogy falls apart is that no one mentioned any names in the PSA. You specifically mentioned my name, so maybe there is some culpability there.
Now, if you said in your PSA "to report anyone they see assaulting a child" that would be closer to what was said. The PSA everyone is so hyped up about only referenced an existing rule in the UCMJ. They did not mention any specific order or a specific person. Not really sure why everyone on here is upset. It is one that GOP should have said, "well played" and let it drop... It was a clever shot with very little risk.
Oh, they just meant any president in general, not the one specifically in power and leading the party in opposition to their own? Well great! That totally clears everything up! lol, so let's say I don't mention you, I'll just tell your neighbors that anyone who lives in the house you currently live in should be watched in case they decide to molest the neighborhood kids.
I knew I could get you to say "they weren't specific!".
The truth is the analogy would have worked better had I suggested we tell the people at your work that report to you to watch you for fraud and to not do anything you tell them that might get them fired. I'm sure that would be great for your career.
But you and I both know that any example I give to show you how egregious the behavior of those senators was you'd make excuses for them. Then you'll hide behind claims of being a conservative yourself. Wash rinse repeat.
Yeah, that analogy is better. Poor taste, said that numerous times. Criminal? No. Keep in mind Trump didn't go to that it is wrong, he went to sedition and death penalty. It was not seditious, it didn't tell anyone to overthrow an election or anything. It was a nasty message about someone they hate, the feelings are both ways. You guys are making ALOT out of nothing.
yeah: no big deal. Except when it comes to the president of the United States and his ability to command the troops. You fully understand the absurdity of an unnecessary PSA, you fully understand the intent behind that specific PSA regarding the president, you fully understand that the rest of us see it too. Any time there's a coup it's always the military against the administration it was supposed to support. It's not some crazy conspiracy, it's actual history from around the world all through time. The behavior of those senators was seditious and should be treated as such. Even if you want to pretend otherwise.
Was a spontaneous mob of unarmed people who took pictures and went home an insurrection? No, don't be stupid. Was the act of two US senators using their office to suggest to active military that the president may issue illegal orders and they need to be ready to ignore those orders an act of sedition? Only if we go by definition and intent.FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
If I give all your neighbors a PSA to report you should they see you assaulting a child, would I be responsible if some angry dad came and found you and attacked you?
Well, according to the current believe of this thread, yes. You should be arrested because some whack-job heard you talk about it is the fault of your PSA... Sorry.
But what about according to you? You would be fine if we alerted your neighbors to the fact that they should report any assaults you commit on children?
It is not the same since you are specifically naming me. Even so, what could I do about it besides *****? Be pissed at you? If I physically do something to you I will be arrested. I can sue you civilly? I am not sure I would win, you didn't say I did anything. Only "if" I did, you should report it and they should. The only person actually that broke the law is the guy that acted on it, he is going to jail.
Where I think your analogy falls apart is that no one mentioned any names in the PSA. You specifically mentioned my name, so maybe there is some culpability there.
Now, if you said in your PSA "to report anyone they see assaulting a child" that would be closer to what was said. The PSA everyone is so hyped up about only referenced an existing rule in the UCMJ. They did not mention any specific order or a specific person. Not really sure why everyone on here is upset. It is one that GOP should have said, "well played" and let it drop... It was a clever shot with very little risk.
Oh, they just meant any president in general, not the one specifically in power and leading the party in opposition to their own? Well great! That totally clears everything up! lol, so let's say I don't mention you, I'll just tell your neighbors that anyone who lives in the house you currently live in should be watched in case they decide to molest the neighborhood kids.
I knew I could get you to say "they weren't specific!".
The truth is the analogy would have worked better had I suggested we tell the people at your work that report to you to watch you for fraud and to not do anything you tell them that might get them fired. I'm sure that would be great for your career.
But you and I both know that any example I give to show you how egregious the behavior of those senators was you'd make excuses for them. Then you'll hide behind claims of being a conservative yourself. Wash rinse repeat.
Yeah, that analogy is better. Poor taste, said that numerous times. Criminal? No. Keep in mind Trump didn't go to that it is wrong, he went to sedition and death penalty. It was not seditious, it didn't tell anyone to overthrow an election or anything. It was a nasty message about someone they hate, the feelings are both ways. You guys are making ALOT out of nothing.
yeah: no big deal. Except when it comes to the president of the United States and his ability to command the troops. You fully understand the absurdity of an unnecessary PSA, you fully understand the intent behind that specific PSA regarding the president, you fully understand that the rest of us see it too. Any time there's a coup it's always the military against the administration it was supposed to support. It's not some crazy conspiracy, it's actual history from around the world all through time. The behavior of those senators was seditious and should be treated as such. Even if you want to pretend otherwise.
I agree it was not a smart idea, I agree it was political. Coup??? I don't think any Court would find that as a Coup.
Was January 6th a Coup attempt? If this is a Coup attempt, January 6th was a Coup that was put down. You guys keep thowing stuff around and think it is a one way street. It goes both ways.
Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
If I give all your neighbors a PSA to report you should they see you assaulting a child, would I be responsible if some angry dad came and found you and attacked you?
Well, according to the current believe of this thread, yes. You should be arrested because some whack-job heard you talk about it is the fault of your PSA... Sorry.
But what about according to you? You would be fine if we alerted your neighbors to the fact that they should report any assaults you commit on children?
It is not the same since you are specifically naming me. Even so, what could I do about it besides *****? Be pissed at you? If I physically do something to you I will be arrested. I can sue you civilly? I am not sure I would win, you didn't say I did anything. Only "if" I did, you should report it and they should. The only person actually that broke the law is the guy that acted on it, he is going to jail.
Where I think your analogy falls apart is that no one mentioned any names in the PSA. You specifically mentioned my name, so maybe there is some culpability there.
Now, if you said in your PSA "to report anyone they see assaulting a child" that would be closer to what was said. The PSA everyone is so hyped up about only referenced an existing rule in the UCMJ. They did not mention any specific order or a specific person. Not really sure why everyone on here is upset. It is one that GOP should have said, "well played" and let it drop... It was a clever shot with very little risk.
Oh, they just meant any president in general, not the one specifically in power and leading the party in opposition to their own? Well great! That totally clears everything up! lol, so let's say I don't mention you, I'll just tell your neighbors that anyone who lives in the house you currently live in should be watched in case they decide to molest the neighborhood kids.
I knew I could get you to say "they weren't specific!".
The truth is the analogy would have worked better had I suggested we tell the people at your work that report to you to watch you for fraud and to not do anything you tell them that might get them fired. I'm sure that would be great for your career.
But you and I both know that any example I give to show you how egregious the behavior of those senators was you'd make excuses for them. Then you'll hide behind claims of being a conservative yourself. Wash rinse repeat.
Yeah, that analogy is better. Poor taste, said that numerous times. Criminal? No. Keep in mind Trump didn't go to that it is wrong, he went to sedition and death penalty. It was not seditious, it didn't tell anyone to overthrow an election or anything. It was a nasty message about someone they hate, the feelings are both ways. You guys are making ALOT out of nothing.
yeah: no big deal. Except when it comes to the president of the United States and his ability to command the troops. You fully understand the absurdity of an unnecessary PSA, you fully understand the intent behind that specific PSA regarding the president, you fully understand that the rest of us see it too. Any time there's a coup it's always the military against the administration it was supposed to support. It's not some crazy conspiracy, it's actual history from around the world all through time. The behavior of those senators was seditious and should be treated as such. Even if you want to pretend otherwise.
Harrison Bergeron said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
If I give all your neighbors a PSA to report you should they see you assaulting a child, would I be responsible if some angry dad came and found you and attacked you?
Well, according to the current believe of this thread, yes. You should be arrested because some whack-job heard you talk about it is the fault of your PSA... Sorry.
But what about according to you? You would be fine if we alerted your neighbors to the fact that they should report any assaults you commit on children?
It is not the same since you are specifically naming me. Even so, what could I do about it besides *****? Be pissed at you? If I physically do something to you I will be arrested. I can sue you civilly? I am not sure I would win, you didn't say I did anything. Only "if" I did, you should report it and they should. The only person actually that broke the law is the guy that acted on it, he is going to jail.
Where I think your analogy falls apart is that no one mentioned any names in the PSA. You specifically mentioned my name, so maybe there is some culpability there.
Now, if you said in your PSA "to report anyone they see assaulting a child" that would be closer to what was said. The PSA everyone is so hyped up about only referenced an existing rule in the UCMJ. They did not mention any specific order or a specific person. Not really sure why everyone on here is upset. It is one that GOP should have said, "well played" and let it drop... It was a clever shot with very little risk.
Oh, they just meant any president in general, not the one specifically in power and leading the party in opposition to their own? Well great! That totally clears everything up! lol, so let's say I don't mention you, I'll just tell your neighbors that anyone who lives in the house you currently live in should be watched in case they decide to molest the neighborhood kids.
I knew I could get you to say "they weren't specific!".
The truth is the analogy would have worked better had I suggested we tell the people at your work that report to you to watch you for fraud and to not do anything you tell them that might get them fired. I'm sure that would be great for your career.
But you and I both know that any example I give to show you how egregious the behavior of those senators was you'd make excuses for them. Then you'll hide behind claims of being a conservative yourself. Wash rinse repeat.
Yeah, that analogy is better. Poor taste, said that numerous times. Criminal? No. Keep in mind Trump didn't go to that it is wrong, he went to sedition and death penalty. It was not seditious, it didn't tell anyone to overthrow an election or anything. It was a nasty message about someone they hate, the feelings are both ways. You guys are making ALOT out of nothing.
yeah: no big deal. Except when it comes to the president of the United States and his ability to command the troops. You fully understand the absurdity of an unnecessary PSA, you fully understand the intent behind that specific PSA regarding the president, you fully understand that the rest of us see it too. Any time there's a coup it's always the military against the administration it was supposed to support. It's not some crazy conspiracy, it's actual history from around the world all through time. The behavior of those senators was seditious and should be treated as such. Even if you want to pretend otherwise.
The fact that the Kelly moron is going on Jimmy Kimmel's show gives truth to the lie that any of these extremists are serious. The dude used his wife's assassination attempt to run for office and lied about - something only Joe Bide stooped so low to do.
Doc Holliday said:
The America first movement isn't losing momentum, but Trump definitely is and its because he refuses to focus on the main objectives that his voters want.
Doc Holliday said:
The America first movement isn't losing momentum, but Trump definitely is and its because he refuses to focus on the main objectives that his voters want.
Harrison Bergeron said:Doc Holliday said:
The America first movement isn't losing momentum, but Trump definitely is and its because he refuses to focus on the main objectives that his voters want.
What do you think are those issues? (I genuinely don't know outside of "the economy" and not a ton a president can do that is fast)
Immigration was a big issue - he stopped the flow of illegals.
Inflation while still too high is exponentially lower than under Biden - if he does the "tariff giveaway" then he's going to start it up again.
Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
If I give all your neighbors a PSA to report you should they see you assaulting a child, would I be responsible if some angry dad came and found you and attacked you?
Well, according to the current believe of this thread, yes. You should be arrested because some whack-job heard you talk about it is the fault of your PSA... Sorry.
But what about according to you? You would be fine if we alerted your neighbors to the fact that they should report any assaults you commit on children?
It is not the same since you are specifically naming me. Even so, what could I do about it besides *****? Be pissed at you? If I physically do something to you I will be arrested. I can sue you civilly? I am not sure I would win, you didn't say I did anything. Only "if" I did, you should report it and they should. The only person actually that broke the law is the guy that acted on it, he is going to jail.
Where I think your analogy falls apart is that no one mentioned any names in the PSA. You specifically mentioned my name, so maybe there is some culpability there.
Now, if you said in your PSA "to report anyone they see assaulting a child" that would be closer to what was said. The PSA everyone is so hyped up about only referenced an existing rule in the UCMJ. They did not mention any specific order or a specific person. Not really sure why everyone on here is upset. It is one that GOP should have said, "well played" and let it drop... It was a clever shot with very little risk.
Oh, they just meant any president in general, not the one specifically in power and leading the party in opposition to their own? Well great! That totally clears everything up! lol, so let's say I don't mention you, I'll just tell your neighbors that anyone who lives in the house you currently live in should be watched in case they decide to molest the neighborhood kids.
I knew I could get you to say "they weren't specific!".
The truth is the analogy would have worked better had I suggested we tell the people at your work that report to you to watch you for fraud and to not do anything you tell them that might get them fired. I'm sure that would be great for your career.
But you and I both know that any example I give to show you how egregious the behavior of those senators was you'd make excuses for them. Then you'll hide behind claims of being a conservative yourself. Wash rinse repeat.
Yeah, that analogy is better. Poor taste, said that numerous times. Criminal? No. Keep in mind Trump didn't go to that it is wrong, he went to sedition and death penalty. It was not seditious, it didn't tell anyone to overthrow an election or anything. It was a nasty message about someone they hate, the feelings are both ways. You guys are making ALOT out of nothing.
yeah: no big deal. Except when it comes to the president of the United States and his ability to command the troops. You fully understand the absurdity of an unnecessary PSA, you fully understand the intent behind that specific PSA regarding the president, you fully understand that the rest of us see it too. Any time there's a coup it's always the military against the administration it was supposed to support. It's not some crazy conspiracy, it's actual history from around the world all through time. The behavior of those senators was seditious and should be treated as such. Even if you want to pretend otherwise.
I agree it was not a smart idea, I agree it was political. Coup??? I don't think any Court would find that as a Coup.
Was January 6th a Coup attempt? If this is a Coup attempt, January 6th was a Coup that was put down. You guys keep thowing stuff around and think it is a one way street. It goes both ways.
Was a spontaneous mob of unarmed people who took pictures and went home an insurrection? No, don't be stupid. Was the act of two US senators using their office to suggest to active military that the president may issue illegal orders and they need to be ready to ignore those orders an act of sedition? Only if we go by definition and intent.
FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
If I give all your neighbors a PSA to report you should they see you assaulting a child, would I be responsible if some angry dad came and found you and attacked you?
Well, according to the current believe of this thread, yes. You should be arrested because some whack-job heard you talk about it is the fault of your PSA... Sorry.
But what about according to you? You would be fine if we alerted your neighbors to the fact that they should report any assaults you commit on children?
It is not the same since you are specifically naming me. Even so, what could I do about it besides *****? Be pissed at you? If I physically do something to you I will be arrested. I can sue you civilly? I am not sure I would win, you didn't say I did anything. Only "if" I did, you should report it and they should. The only person actually that broke the law is the guy that acted on it, he is going to jail.
Where I think your analogy falls apart is that no one mentioned any names in the PSA. You specifically mentioned my name, so maybe there is some culpability there.
Now, if you said in your PSA "to report anyone they see assaulting a child" that would be closer to what was said. The PSA everyone is so hyped up about only referenced an existing rule in the UCMJ. They did not mention any specific order or a specific person. Not really sure why everyone on here is upset. It is one that GOP should have said, "well played" and let it drop... It was a clever shot with very little risk.
Oh, they just meant any president in general, not the one specifically in power and leading the party in opposition to their own? Well great! That totally clears everything up! lol, so let's say I don't mention you, I'll just tell your neighbors that anyone who lives in the house you currently live in should be watched in case they decide to molest the neighborhood kids.
I knew I could get you to say "they weren't specific!".
The truth is the analogy would have worked better had I suggested we tell the people at your work that report to you to watch you for fraud and to not do anything you tell them that might get them fired. I'm sure that would be great for your career.
But you and I both know that any example I give to show you how egregious the behavior of those senators was you'd make excuses for them. Then you'll hide behind claims of being a conservative yourself. Wash rinse repeat.
Yeah, that analogy is better. Poor taste, said that numerous times. Criminal? No. Keep in mind Trump didn't go to that it is wrong, he went to sedition and death penalty. It was not seditious, it didn't tell anyone to overthrow an election or anything. It was a nasty message about someone they hate, the feelings are both ways. You guys are making ALOT out of nothing.
yeah: no big deal. Except when it comes to the president of the United States and his ability to command the troops. You fully understand the absurdity of an unnecessary PSA, you fully understand the intent behind that specific PSA regarding the president, you fully understand that the rest of us see it too. Any time there's a coup it's always the military against the administration it was supposed to support. It's not some crazy conspiracy, it's actual history from around the world all through time. The behavior of those senators was seditious and should be treated as such. Even if you want to pretend otherwise.
I agree it was not a smart idea, I agree it was political. Coup??? I don't think any Court would find that as a Coup.
Was January 6th a Coup attempt? If this is a Coup attempt, January 6th was a Coup that was put down. You guys keep thowing stuff around and think it is a one way street. It goes both ways.
Was a spontaneous mob of unarmed people who took pictures and went home an insurrection? No, don't be stupid. Was the act of two US senators using their office to suggest to active military that the president may issue illegal orders and they need to be ready to ignore those orders an act of sedition? Only if we go by definition and intent.
I say neither were. But, you could make an argument for either if you want to. Which is what happens in election years. This
stuff is not as black and white as people want
it to be.
He's prioritized donors, many that used to openly hate him. He's giving them 50 year mortgages and keeping the Epstein files hidden that's supposedly don't exist?Harrison Bergeron said:Doc Holliday said:
The America first movement isn't losing momentum, but Trump definitely is and its because he refuses to focus on the main objectives that his voters want.
What do you think are those issues? (I genuinely don't know outside of "the economy" and not a ton a president can do that is fast)
Immigration was a big issue - he stopped the flow of illegals.
Inflation while still too high is exponentially lower than under Biden - if he does the "tariff giveaway" then he's going to start it up again.
Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
If I give all your neighbors a PSA to report you should they see you assaulting a child, would I be responsible if some angry dad came and found you and attacked you?
Well, according to the current believe of this thread, yes. You should be arrested because some whack-job heard you talk about it is the fault of your PSA... Sorry.
But what about according to you? You would be fine if we alerted your neighbors to the fact that they should report any assaults you commit on children?
It is not the same since you are specifically naming me. Even so, what could I do about it besides *****? Be pissed at you? If I physically do something to you I will be arrested. I can sue you civilly? I am not sure I would win, you didn't say I did anything. Only "if" I did, you should report it and they should. The only person actually that broke the law is the guy that acted on it, he is going to jail.
Where I think your analogy falls apart is that no one mentioned any names in the PSA. You specifically mentioned my name, so maybe there is some culpability there.
Now, if you said in your PSA "to report anyone they see assaulting a child" that would be closer to what was said. The PSA everyone is so hyped up about only referenced an existing rule in the UCMJ. They did not mention any specific order or a specific person. Not really sure why everyone on here is upset. It is one that GOP should have said, "well played" and let it drop... It was a clever shot with very little risk.
Oh, they just meant any president in general, not the one specifically in power and leading the party in opposition to their own? Well great! That totally clears everything up! lol, so let's say I don't mention you, I'll just tell your neighbors that anyone who lives in the house you currently live in should be watched in case they decide to molest the neighborhood kids.
I knew I could get you to say "they weren't specific!".
The truth is the analogy would have worked better had I suggested we tell the people at your work that report to you to watch you for fraud and to not do anything you tell them that might get them fired. I'm sure that would be great for your career.
But you and I both know that any example I give to show you how egregious the behavior of those senators was you'd make excuses for them. Then you'll hide behind claims of being a conservative yourself. Wash rinse repeat.
Yeah, that analogy is better. Poor taste, said that numerous times. Criminal? No. Keep in mind Trump didn't go to that it is wrong, he went to sedition and death penalty. It was not seditious, it didn't tell anyone to overthrow an election or anything. It was a nasty message about someone they hate, the feelings are both ways. You guys are making ALOT out of nothing.
yeah: no big deal. Except when it comes to the president of the United States and his ability to command the troops. You fully understand the absurdity of an unnecessary PSA, you fully understand the intent behind that specific PSA regarding the president, you fully understand that the rest of us see it too. Any time there's a coup it's always the military against the administration it was supposed to support. It's not some crazy conspiracy, it's actual history from around the world all through time. The behavior of those senators was seditious and should be treated as such. Even if you want to pretend otherwise.
I agree it was not a smart idea, I agree it was political. Coup??? I don't think any Court would find that as a Coup.
Was January 6th a Coup attempt? If this is a Coup attempt, January 6th was a Coup that was put down. You guys keep thowing stuff around and think it is a one way street. It goes both ways.
Was a spontaneous mob of unarmed people who took pictures and went home an insurrection? No, don't be stupid. Was the act of two US senators using their office to suggest to active military that the president may issue illegal orders and they need to be ready to ignore those orders an act of sedition? Only if we go by definition and intent.
I say neither were. But, you could make an argument for either if you want to. Which is what happens in election years. This
stuff is not as black and white as people want
it to be.
So then let's compromise and treat the senators exactly like the January 6 idiots and lock them up for a few years in prison.
Doc Holliday said:
He's prioritized donors, many that used to openly hate him. He's giving them 50 year mortgages and keeping the Epstein files hidden that's supposedly don't exist?
We had a generational mandate. Trump chose to squander it on foreign policy. His support isn't the issue. It's voter turnout in the midterms that's going to be the issue.
Democrats will likely win midterms and impeach him. We need to solve major problems before that happens.
Doc Holliday said:Harrison Bergeron said:Doc Holliday said:
The America first movement isn't losing momentum, but Trump definitely is and its because he refuses to focus on the main objectives that his voters want.
What do you think are those issues? (I genuinely don't know outside of "the economy" and not a ton a president can do that is fast)
Immigration was a big issue - he stopped the flow of illegals.
Inflation while still too high is exponentially lower than under Biden - if he does the "tariff giveaway" then he's going to start it up again.
He's prioritized donors, many that used to openly hate him. He's giving them 50 year mortgages and keeping the Epstein files hidden that's supposedly don't exist?
We had a generational mandate. Trump chose to squander it on foreign policy. His support isn't the issue. It's voter turnout in the midterms that's going to be the issue.
Democrats will likely win midterms and impeach him. We need to solve major problems before that happens.
Mothra said:Guy Noir said:
6. Trump Admin is threatening Senators that announced to military personnel they did no need to follow orders when the orders were illegal.
Yeah, that's a real bull**** move by people like Kelly. They can't even identify anything illegal Trump has done, but are calling on the military to ignore him? That's some dangerous stuff.
FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Takes a broad sense of humor to pretend the Dems paid for commercials and air time merely to publicly 'educate' our servicemen.
Especially since such a propaganda peace was never deemed necessary before in the history of the United States.
Honestly it kind of rings to me like Biden's bullseye comment regarding the Republican Party's presidential nominee.
Who by the sheerest of coincidence ( of course ) almost had his head blown off on national television shortly thereafter.
If no one gets shot from this little piece of educational gameplay……I would hope it's never repeated and eventually forgotten.
But if anyone is hurt…..the producers of this stupidity should face the severest consequences.
Geez, we all know ot was a political message. True, they didnt say anything that we all didnt hear in Basic through every JAG briefing. But, yes there was a political message. If you are a Commander being given a mission to blow up civilian boats, i am sure there is a JAG officer in the loop. Hell, that is what DeSantis did as a JAG officer in fhe Navy.
poor taste? yes. politicicizing military members? yes. Seditiuos? No.
Unless it inspires violence towards superior officers or our political leadership.
In that case everyone connected to this stupidity should be put in federal lockup.
Really? Any troop that goes violent deserves what they get, but it is THEIR ACTION not some stupid PSA. Surprised, you are usually a "responsible for your own actions type of guy".
Dumb
How so? Let's delve into that a little. So, a PSA political marketing spot is responsible for some guy fragging his CO? Or, only for the Caribbean mission? Venezula is worth it. So, the individual is not responsible for their own actions if someone instigates them? Hmmm. Did Trump have any culpability for January 6th?
Doc Holliday said:Harrison Bergeron said:Doc Holliday said:
The America first movement isn't losing momentum, but Trump definitely is and its because he refuses to focus on the main objectives that his voters want.
What do you think are those issues? (I genuinely don't know outside of "the economy" and not a ton a president can do that is fast)
Immigration was a big issue - he stopped the flow of illegals.
Inflation while still too high is exponentially lower than under Biden - if he does the "tariff giveaway" then he's going to start it up again.
He's prioritized donors, many that used to openly hate him. He's giving them 50 year mortgages and keeping the Epstein files hidden that's supposedly don't exist?
We had a generational mandate. Trump chose to squander it on foreign policy. His support isn't the issue. It's voter turnout in the midterms that's going to be the issue.
Democrats will likely win midterms and impeach him. We need to solve major problems before that happens.
Doc Holliday said:He's prioritized donors, many that used to openly hate him. He's giving them 50 year mortgages and keeping the Epstein files hidden that's supposedly don't exist?Harrison Bergeron said:Doc Holliday said:
The America first movement isn't losing momentum, but Trump definitely is and its because he refuses to focus on the main objectives that his voters want.
What do you think are those issues? (I genuinely don't know outside of "the economy" and not a ton a president can do that is fast)
Immigration was a big issue - he stopped the flow of illegals.
Inflation while still too high is exponentially lower than under Biden - if he does the "tariff giveaway" then he's going to start it up again.
We had a generational mandate. Trump chose to squander it on foreign policy. His support isn't the issue. It's voter turnout in the midterms that's going to be the issue.
Democrats will likely win midterms and impeach him. We need to solve major problems before that happens.
Waco1947 said:Mothra said:Guy Noir said:
6. Trump Admin is threatening Senators that announced to military personnel they did no need to follow orders when the orders were illegal.
Yeah, that's a real bull**** move by people like Kelly. They can't even identify anything illegal Trump has done, but are calling on the military to ignore him? That's some dangerous stuff.
Repeating the constitution is wrong? The rest is mind-reading by MAGA.
GrowlTowel said:Waco1947 said:Mothra said:Guy Noir said:
6. Trump Admin is threatening Senators that announced to military personnel they did no need to follow orders when the orders were illegal.
Yeah, that's a real bull**** move by people like Kelly. They can't even identify anything illegal Trump has done, but are calling on the military to ignore him? That's some dangerous stuff.
Repeating the constitution is wrong? The rest is mind-reading by MAGA.
None of what the tards said is in the constitution. Try again.
