KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

none that we know of yet. Let me ask a question: Are you ok with Trump, family, cronies, get rich off the tax payers and making billions in crypto while in office(that he started).? You ok with the Trump families grift regardless of bumping up to the line. you good with this?

---

By your own admission…..none of Trumps actions are illegal.

So why your constant name calling ?

No, I am content with my own financial status so don't worry about the wealth of people smarter than me.

---

bro, I name call as a bit as that isn't how I roll. Simply pointing out how our president lasts. I'm happy financially , but raping and pillaging by a bunch of grifters and ho who wrote a book.

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

none that we know of yet. Let me ask a question: Are you ok with Trump, family, cronies, get rich off the tax payers and making billions in crypto while in office(that he started).? You ok with the Trump families grift regardless of bumping up to the line. you good with this?

---

By your own admission…..none of Trumps actions are illegal.

So why your constant name calling ?

No, I am content with my own financial status so don't worry about the wealth of people smarter than me.

---

bro, I name call as a bit as that isn't how I roll. Simply pointing out how our president lasts. I'm happy financially , but raping and pillaging by a bunch of grifters and ho who wrote a book.

---

I have no doubt you have earned your success.

So has Trump.

Most amazing comeback in US political history.

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

---

Barron Trump, the 19-year-old youngest son of President Donald Trump, has quietly built a significant fortune estimated at $150 million, primarily through his leading role in the Trump family's cryptocurrency ventures, eclipsing his mother Melania Trump's net worth of approximately $20 million.

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

---

Vulcan Elements, a rare-earth magnets startup backed by Donald Trump Jr.'s VC firm 1789 Capital, has secured a $620 million contract from the U.S. Department of Defense, as reported by the Financial Times. A little-known rare earths start-up with about 30 employees has won a blockbuster funding deal from the Pentagon.

In the months following Donald Trump's return to the White House, a little-known venture fund with ties to the Trump family quietly crossed a milestone: $1 billion in assets.
The firm, 1789 Capital, was once a niche experiment that aimed to align equity investing with conservative political values.
With the addition of Don Jr., the fund has gained extraordinary access to political power.

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

none that we know of yet. Let me ask a question: Are you ok with Trump, family, cronies, get rich off the tax payers and making billions in crypto while in office(that he started).? You ok with the Trump families grift regardless of bumping up to the line. you good with this?

---

By your own admission…..none of Trumps actions are illegal.

So why your constant name calling ?

No, I am content with my own financial status so don't worry about the wealth of people smarter than me.

---

bro, I name call as a bit as that isn't how I roll. Simply pointing out how our president lasts. I'm happy financially , but raping and pillaging by a bunch of grifters and ho who wrote a book.

---

I have no doubt you have earned your success.

So has Trump.

Most amazing comeback in US political history.

---

Since Donald Trump's 2024 election victory, Eric Trump has become roughly ten times richer, with his net worth surging from around $40 million to nearly $400 million by December 2025, according to Forbes.

TDS BS thread. You'd think you were in the lobby of MSLSD. 1947 will be along soon.

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

---

Amazing the envy some folks possess.

They could have invested in these same companies….but didn't.

KaiBear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

---

Amazing the envy some folks possess.

They could have invested in these same companies….but didn't.

---

Today, the Center for American Progress is launching "Trump's Take," a new research project and live tracker that will continuously update the cash and gifts received by President Donald Trump, Melania Trump, and his two oldest sons from selling the presidency since his election in November 2024. At release time, the tracker shows that in the nearly one year since Trump was reelected president, Trump and his family have amassed more than $1.8 billion in cash and gifts from leveraging the presidency for personal gain, including over $1.2 billion in crypto gains alone.

Osodecentx said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

---

Amazing the envy some folks possess.

They could have invested in these same companies….but didn't.

---

Today, the Center for American Progress is launching "Trump's Take," a new research project and live tracker that will continuously update the cash and gifts received by President Donald Trump, Melania Trump, and his two oldest sons from selling the presidency since his election in November 2024. At release time, the tracker shows that in the nearly one year since Trump was reelected president, Trump and his family have amassed more than $1.8 billion in cash and gifts from leveraging the presidency for personal gain, including over $1.2 billion in crypto gains alone.

---

No doubt such tracking will be fair and unbiased.

KaiBear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

---

Amazing the envy some folks possess.

They could have invested in these same companies….but didn't.

---

Today, the Center for American Progress is launching "Trump's Take," a new research project and live tracker that will continuously update the cash and gifts received by President Donald Trump, Melania Trump, and his two oldest sons from selling the presidency since his election in November 2024. At release time, the tracker shows that in the nearly one year since Trump was reelected president, Trump and his family have amassed more than $1.8 billion in cash and gifts from leveraging the presidency for personal gain, including over $1.2 billion in crypto gains alone.

---

No doubt such tracking will be fair and unbiased.

---

If you say so

KaiBear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

---

Amazing the envy some folks possess.

They could have invested in these same companies….but didn't.

---

Today, the Center for American Progress is launching "Trump's Take," a new research project and live tracker that will continuously update the cash and gifts received by President Donald Trump, Melania Trump, and his two oldest sons from selling the presidency since his election in November 2024. At release time, the tracker shows that in the nearly one year since Trump was reelected president, Trump and his family have amassed more than $1.8 billion in cash and gifts from leveraging the presidency for personal gain, including over $1.2 billion in crypto gains alone.

---

No doubt such tracking will be fair and unbiased.

---

so, are you good with the Trump family grift? yes or no question. The question refers specifically to the Trump Crime Family, not, Biden, Clinton ..they have been gone a long time. This is 100% Gold Toad's.

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

---

Amazing the envy some folks possess.

They could have invested in these same companies….but didn't.

---

Today, the Center for American Progress is launching "Trump's Take," a new research project and live tracker that will continuously update the cash and gifts received by President Donald Trump, Melania Trump, and his two oldest sons from selling the presidency since his election in November 2024. At release time, the tracker shows that in the nearly one year since Trump was reelected president, Trump and his family have amassed more than $1.8 billion in cash and gifts from leveraging the presidency for personal gain, including over $1.2 billion in crypto gains alone.

---

No doubt such tracking will be fair and unbiased.

---

so, are you good with the Trump family grift? yes or no question. The question refers specifically to the Trump Crime Family, not, Biden, Clinton ..they have been gone a long time. This is 100% Gold Toad's.

---

There is no grift.

Period


You invest
I invest
Trump invests

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

---

Amazing the envy some folks possess.

They could have invested in these same companies….but didn't.

---

Today, the Center for American Progress is launching "Trump's Take," a new research project and live tracker that will continuously update the cash and gifts received by President Donald Trump, Melania Trump, and his two oldest sons from selling the presidency since his election in November 2024. At release time, the tracker shows that in the nearly one year since Trump was reelected president, Trump and his family have amassed more than $1.8 billion in cash and gifts from leveraging the presidency for personal gain, including over $1.2 billion in crypto gains alone.

---

No doubt such tracking will be fair and unbiased.

---

so, are you good with the Trump family grift? yes or no question. The question refers specifically to the Trump Crime Family, not, Biden, Clinton ..they have been gone a long time. This is 100% Gold Toad's.

---

I will translate Kaibear's response for you , J.R.

He says YES. He has no problem with Trump's business ventures and conflicts of interest while serving as President of the United States.

For some reason, Kai and OldBear have extreme difficulty answering Yes or No questions.

Osodecentx said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

---

Amazing the envy some folks possess.

They could have invested in these same companies….but didn't.

---

Today, the Center for American Progress is launching "Trump's Take," a new research project and live tracker that will continuously update the cash and gifts received by President Donald Trump, Melania Trump, and his two oldest sons from selling the presidency since his election in November 2024. At release time, the tracker shows that in the nearly one year since Trump was reelected president, Trump and his family have amassed more than $1.8 billion in cash and gifts from leveraging the presidency for personal gain, including over $1.2 billion in crypto gains alone.

---

No doubt such tracking will be fair and unbiased.

---

If you say so

---

But of course....hasn't 99% of the media been objective, honest and fair to Trump since Day One ?

KaiBear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

---

Amazing the envy some folks possess.

They could have invested in these same companies….but didn't.

---

Today, the Center for American Progress is launching "Trump's Take," a new research project and live tracker that will continuously update the cash and gifts received by President Donald Trump, Melania Trump, and his two oldest sons from selling the presidency since his election in November 2024. At release time, the tracker shows that in the nearly one year since Trump was reelected president, Trump and his family have amassed more than $1.8 billion in cash and gifts from leveraging the presidency for personal gain, including over $1.2 billion in crypto gains alone.

---

No doubt such tracking will be fair and unbiased.

---

If you say so

---

But of course....hasn't 99% of the media been objective, honest and fair to Trump since Day One ?

---

Quiet piggy

And just like that, the Democrats suddenly were worried about politicians net worth growing while in office.

Osodecentx said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

---

Amazing the envy some folks possess.

They could have invested in these same companies….but didn't.

---

Today, the Center for American Progress is launching "Trump's Take," a new research project and live tracker that will continuously update the cash and gifts received by President Donald Trump, Melania Trump, and his two oldest sons from selling the presidency since his election in November 2024. At release time, the tracker shows that in the nearly one year since Trump was reelected president, Trump and his family have amassed more than $1.8 billion in cash and gifts from leveraging the presidency for personal gain, including over $1.2 billion in crypto gains alone.

---

No doubt such tracking will be fair and unbiased.

---

If you say so

---

But of course....hasn't 99% of the media been objective, honest and fair to Trump since Day One ?

---

Quiet piggy

---

Bravely typed.

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

---

Barron Trump, the 19-year-old youngest son of President Donald Trump, has quietly built a significant fortune estimated at $150 million, primarily through his leading role in the Trump family's cryptocurrency ventures, eclipsing his mother Melania Trump's net worth of approximately $20 million.

---

Ok. So the President's son may not run a crypto business (for some unclear reason). what other legitimate businesses is he not allowed to run?

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

---

Vulcan Elements, a rare-earth magnets startup backed by Donald Trump Jr.'s VC firm 1789 Capital, has secured a $620 million contract from the U.S. Department of Defense, as reported by the Financial Times. A little-known rare earths start-up with about 30 employees has won a blockbuster funding deal from the Pentagon.

In the months following Donald Trump's return to the White House, a little-known venture fund with ties to the Trump family quietly crossed a milestone: $1 billion in assets.
The firm, 1789 Capital, was once a niche experiment that aimed to align equity investing with conservative political values.
With the addition of Don Jr., the fund has gained extraordinary access to political power.

---

LOL. the hypocrisy......

Don Jr. INVESTS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF HIS OWN DOLLARS in a company at the nexus of both the telecom and defense industries.....and its the exact same thing as Hunter investing nothing but taken a $1m/yr salary as an "advisor" and providing nothing of value to the company at all except a cell phone number to a single VIP?

Very foolish, sir. You are better than this.

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

TexasScientist said:

---

Propaganda is what you get on Fox, and what is sponsored on social media by the Kremlin.

The only reason for you to turn a blind eye to corruption is because of ignorance, naivety, or you see a personal benefit.

---

Flat Earth - would you support a law that required every politician to return every dollar change between the first day sworn in office in his / her last day in office?

---

Flat Earth - you must not have cell service at the QAnon meetings so re-posting so you can answer.

Do you support a law preventing every politician from making any increase in net worth while in office?

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

---

Vulcan Elements, a rare-earth magnets startup backed by Donald Trump Jr.'s VC firm 1789 Capital, has secured a $620 million contract from the U.S. Department of Defense, as reported by the Financial Times. A little-known rare earths start-up with about 30 employees has won a blockbuster funding deal from the Pentagon.

In the months following Donald Trump's return to the White House, a little-known venture fund with ties to the Trump family quietly crossed a milestone: $1 billion in assets.
The firm, 1789 Capital, was once a niche experiment that aimed to align equity investing with conservative political values.
With the addition of Don Jr., the fund has gained extraordinary access to political power.

---

LOL. the hypocrisy......

Don Jr. INVESTS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF HIS OWN DOLLARS in a company at the nexus of both the telecom and defense industries.....and its the exact same thing as Hunter investing nothing but taken a $1m/yr salary as an "advisor" and providing nothing of value to the company at all except a cell phone number to a single VIP?

Very foolish, sir. You are better than this.

---

Why are you shocked ... the same people mad that the Trump family makes investments have has zero concern that Hunter Biden made millions from China, Russia, and Ukraine. We live in a stupid country.

Not too long ago some posters insisted that Trump was not a billionaire.

Rather, he was a dolt, too dumb to do anything but lose money.

Now magically; Trump is a multi billionaire financial genius manipulator.

Gotta luv the internet.

KaiBear said:

---

Not too long ago some posters insisted that Trump was not a billionaire.

Rather, he was a dolt, too dumb to do anything but lose money.

Now magically; Trump is a multi billionaire financial genius manipulator.

Gotta luv the internet.

---

That's actually the best post on the thread. The TDSers just make up reality in the moment to fit whatever narrative they are spinning.

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

whiterock said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

KaiBear said:

---

J.R. said:

---

Biden is NO longer President and hasn't been in a while, so not pertinent to the question of Trump's amazing Grif. Question: are there any of you who are OK with Trump and Family rapping and pillaging?

---

Please list specific evidence involving specific acts of pillaging.

---

Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar. Whitkoff and little whitkoff getting rich with the Trump Boz, Melanie's book. who wants to read a book about a 3rrdworld hooker? $B in Crypto investments. Shall I continue with how Little Johnny and Old83 getting fleeced by the Gold Piggy!

---

Which of these actions are illegal ?

The Airplane was a gift to the office not to Trump. But you already knew that.

---

neverTrumper Rule #1: "l I don't like it, it's illegal."

---

AlwaysTrumper Democrat Rule #1 Nothing is illegal, Anything goes

---

FIFY

I learned the "if I don't like it, it's illegal" lesson in Republican meeting halls, listening to libertarian kooks oppose everything they didn't like as "unconstitutional." It's the ultimate losers' argument. When you make it, you cede the premise that the policy is an viable solution. Worse, by failing to make an argument that the policy is harmful or ineffective (and that you have a better alternative) you increase the likelihood the policy will pass into law, which then requires years and money (during which time that policy will be shaping pathological outcomes) to litigate the question of illegality or unconstitutionality. And you might well lose in court. Obamacare is a classic example of that dynamic.

---

I was posting on a thread where JR wrote:
Meme coins, Trump Coins, $400M Airplane from terrorists for his own personal use (though at his library ) Trump Bible, Trump High Tops. golf course/liscence in Quatar.

The Trumps are enriching themselves by leveraging the office of president. Hunter B did it, now Don Jr and Eric are.

---

So there is no difference between the obvious "let me pay you a lot for doing nothing" stuff like Hunter did in Romania and Kazakhstan and China and Ukraine versus what Trump kids have done with real investments in a real companies?

---

What are the Trump kids doing?

---

Sounds like they invested in companies and brought new products to market. Hunter did none of that. HE was the investment. The product was the presidency of the United States of America.

---

Vulcan Elements, a rare-earth magnets startup backed by Donald Trump Jr.'s VC firm 1789 Capital, has secured a $620 million contract from the U.S. Department of Defense, as reported by the Financial Times. A little-known rare earths start-up with about 30 employees has won a blockbuster funding deal from the Pentagon.

In the months following Donald Trump's return to the White House, a little-known venture fund with ties to the Trump family quietly crossed a milestone: $1 billion in assets.
The firm, 1789 Capital, was once a niche experiment that aimed to align equity investing with conservative political values.
With the addition of Don Jr., the fund has gained extraordinary access to political power.

---

LOL. the hypocrisy......

Don Jr. INVESTS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF HIS OWN DOLLARS in a company at the nexus of both the telecom and defense industries.....and its the exact same thing as Hunter investing nothing but taken a $1m/yr salary as an "advisor" and providing nothing of value to the company at all except a cell phone number to a single VIP?

Very foolish, sir. You are better than this.

---

Don Trump Jr just secured a $620 million contract from his father' dept of defense. Don Jr didn't join the firm until after the election.
The company has 30 employees

BREAKING: Obama DEA official gets criminally indicted for helping cartels, agreeing to launder $12 million.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) December 7, 2025

Doc Holliday said:

---

BREAKING: Obama DEA official gets criminally indicted for helping cartels, agreeing to launder $12 million.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) December 7, 2025

---

Will get tossed.

Anyone connected to Obama is untouchable

And we know Trump' and his people follow the rules, especially Hegseth, Holman, Bondi, Patel, etc. So I guess it's not a matter of who is or isn't putting America first. Nor does it appear to be which presidential term performs the worst or is the most corrupt. For too many it seems to be we are getting what we are willing to settle for, with few lifting a finger to do anything substantial to correct the situation.

BUDOS said:

---

And we know Trump' and his people follow the rules, especially Hegseth, Holman, Bondi, Patel, etc. So I guess it's not a matter of who is or isn't putting America first. Nor does it appear to be which presidential term performs the worst or is the most corrupt. For too many it seems to be we are getting what we are willing to settle for, with few lifting a finger to do anything substantial to correct the situation.

---

If you have any evidence that the folks you mentioned violated the "rules" - not sure if you mean the law - feel free to share.

BUDOS said:

---

And we know Trump' and his people follow the rules, especially Hegseth, Holman, Bondi, Patel, etc. So I guess it's not a matter of who is or isn't putting America first. Nor does it appear to be which presidential term performs the worst or is the most corrupt. For too many it seems to be we are getting what we are willing to settle for, with few lifting a finger to do anything substantial to correct the situation.

---

Consider you a reasonable individual......so will respond.

Trump has a ton of personal faults. Wanted DeSantis but he failed horribly in the primaries.

However if Harris had been elected; she would have continued Biden's open border policies, woke insanities, the lawfare against white people and Christians; along with destroying our foreign policy positions throughout the world.

Spent the better part of 4 months researching other countries and had finally selected the North Island of New Zealand as our bail out.

Honestly expected the Dems to steal the election again.

I say again because over 16 million votes showed up for Biden in 2020 that has never appeared before or SINCE.

Such numbers are statistically significiant. ( took statistics in grad school )

Our electorate is horribly undereducated and in many cases utterly ignorant. It is far too later to fix the situation as its the dumbest people doing too much of the breeding.

Money controls almost every single aspect of our elections.....along with fraud....and that is also never going to change because most of our politicians get rich out of the process.

So the US is screwed. Trump is only going to delay the collapse by 10 years at most.

When the Dems take over in 2028; we will liquidate our real estate holdings and leave. The where will be determined by my wife, grandchildren and our health.

Kai
Based on some of your past posts, it's not uncommon for us to disagree. But not this time.

BUDOS said:

---

Kai
Based on some of your past posts, it's not uncommon for us to disagree. But not this time.

---

Sorry you feel that way.


Where do we agree this time ?

I don't disagree with your last post.

BUDOS said:

---

I don't disagree with your last post.

---

You said that.

Where specifically do we agree ?

Never mind.