Senator Graham to Trump:

“If I were you, Mr. President, I would kill the leadership that are killing the people. You got to end this” pic.twitter.com/n8NhAV4QdU

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) January 11, 2026

I can't emphasize enough how economically tied to China Iran is. If the Iranian government falls, China may lose access to a stunning 15-20% of its oil imports. That, coupled with the ~5% from Venezuela, could significantly impact China's ability to fuel itself.

— Isaac Stone Fish (@isaacstonefish) January 11, 2026

President Trump:

"Iran is starting to cross it my red line. There seems to be some people killed that aren't supposed to be killed. We are looking at it very seriously, the military is looking at it and we're looking at some very strong options."pic.twitter.com/WN5StBtGku

— Vivid.🇮🇱 (@VividProwess) January 12, 2026

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I assume it goes back to your misunderstanding of salvation and focus on doing good works to attain it.

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I have never once said this. Salvation is by faith through grace, evidenced by fruit. Evangelicalism's problem is that it is willing to give out millions of get out of hell free cards to the sorts of barren fig trees that Christ cursed, and this is one of the reasons for the dismal state of the church in America today.

Do we have any sense of what percentage of Iranian society still favors their current government? Some percentage of that society has to be their version of our democrats.

Strongly doubt these protests will overthrow the Iranian government.

As the government is not reluctant in the least to slaughter thousands of their own people.

Cause they know to lose power is to lose their own lives.

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I assume it goes back to your misunderstanding of salvation and focus on doing good works to attain it.

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I have never once said this. Salvation is by faith through grace, evidenced by fruit. Evangelicalism's problem is that it is willing to give out millions of get out of hell free cards to the sorts of barren fig trees that Christ cursed, and this is one of the reasons for the dismal state of the church in America today.

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Depends on what you mean by evangelism - a very broad term. Bible based and reformed churches are doing nothing of the sort.

As for evangelist churches suffering, bible churches remain the fast growing Christian church in America, far outpacing orthodoxy. I guess we realize we don't need a fat bearded man in a costume called "his imminence" to tell us what to believe. We can read it for ourselves

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Strongly doubt these protests will overthrow the Iranian government.

As the government is not reluctant in the least to slaughter thousands of their own people.

Cause they know to lose power is to lose their own lives.

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Depends on the loyalty of the larger military and security forces there. If enough of those units decide that the regime may fall, they very well could switch sides to avoid being killed or imprisoned.

It's odd the omnicause seems to be ignoring this ... odd how it's adherents love radical Islam.

Trump said Iranian authorities have reached out to the White House, expressed a desire to begin negotiations, and that a meeting has already been set up. pic.twitter.com/VwKu2fVQdc

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) January 12, 2026

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Married A Horn said:

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I'm not holding my breath. There have been several false starts

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What are your thoughts at this point? It looks almost certain for me at this point. I think its the real deal. Trump instilled confidence and courage in the Iranians and they arent stopping.

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When I hear an American president telling a people group that we have their back I also hear Bush telling the Kurds that we have their back.

I know Trump isn't Bush, so I hope I'm wrong.

There are few things I'd like to see more than the collapse of a Muslim Iran and this one certainly has a different feel to it than other protests have had.

I hope I'm way off base and, it's beginning to look like I certainly am.

I asked my wife if I was wrong and she said, "absolutely, but about what?" Maybe y'all are both right

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I died on that last line!

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Do we have any sense of what percentage of Iranian society still favors their current government? Some percentage of that society has to be their version of our democrats.

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Matthew 7:21-23

KaiBear said:

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Strongly doubt these protests will overthrow the Iranian government.

As the government is not reluctant in the least to slaughter thousands of their own people.

Cause they know to lose power is to lose their own lives.

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Not if they have an outbound flight to moscow in the ready.

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KaiBear said:

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Strongly doubt these protests will overthrow the Iranian government.

As the government is not reluctant in the least to slaughter thousands of their own people.

Cause they know to lose power is to lose their own lives.

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Not if they have an outbound flight to moscow in the ready.

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It looks like they are trying to buy some time with Trump. He has them on a short leash

One the one hand, multitudes are screaming that the US is wrong in materially throwing in, against third parties, with the people of Iran and Venezuela in their struggle to be free from despotism.

On the other, there is the myriad of counties, cities, streets, parks, squares, schools, etc all over the US commemorating France's having materially thrown in, against a third party, with the 13 American colonies, primarily through the Marquis de Lafayette, in our struggle to be free from despotism.

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One the one hand, multitudes are screaming that the US is wrong in materially throwing in, against third parties, with the people of Iran and Venezuela in their struggle to be free from despotism.

On the other, there is the myriad of counties, cities, streets, parks, squares, schools, etc all over the US commemorating France's having materially thrown in, against a third party, with the 13 American colonies, primarily through the Marquis de Lafayette, in our struggle to be free from despotism.

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On the other hand we live in a despotic country where what little freedoms we have left are constantly being assailed... in other words I'd rather see some people in DC eat some bullets than people half the world away who have no impact whatsoever on my daily life.

When did Americans become so weak and docile?

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One the one hand, multitudes are screaming that the US is wrong in materially throwing in, against third parties, with the people of Iran and Venezuela in their struggle to be free from despotism.

On the other, there is the myriad of counties, cities, streets, parks, squares, schools, etc all over the US commemorating France's having materially thrown in, against a third party, with the 13 American colonies, primarily through the Marquis de Lafayette, in our struggle to be free from despotism.

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On the other hand we live in a despotic country where what little freedoms we have left are constantly being assailed... in other words I'd rather see some people in DC eat some bullets than people half the world away who have no impact whatsoever on my daily life.

When did Americans become so weak and docile?

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When did you take a shot at a politician or judge?

If the answer is never, either call yourself weak and docile or, call yourself sensible. Either way, you are not the revolutionary you seem to imagine yourself being.

Monday, is this WoW night or DnD?

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Trump said Iranian authorities have reached out to the White House, expressed a desire to begin negotiations, and that a meeting has already been set up. pic.twitter.com/VwKu2fVQdc

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) January 12, 2026

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very interesting if true. Hard to believe

The White House is weighing a last-ditch Iranian offer to engage in diplomacy over curbing its nuclear program even as Trump currently leans toward authorizing fresh military strikes on Iran, U.S. officials say https://t.co/7NHTrWD4xM

— The Wall Street Journal (@WSJ) January 12, 2026

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I can't emphasize enough how economically tied to China Iran is. If the Iranian government falls, China may lose access to a stunning 15-20% of its oil imports. That, coupled with the ~5% from Venezuela, could significantly impact China's ability to fuel itself.

— Isaac Stone Fish (@isaacstonefish) January 11, 2026

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the long game is showing..

BREAKING: Trump says Iran's trade partners will face 25% tariffs from the U.S. as he looks to pressure Tehran over its violent protest crackdown. https://t.co/czFpifdz0y

— The Associated Press (@AP) January 12, 2026

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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canoso said:

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One the one hand, multitudes are screaming that the US is wrong in materially throwing in, against third parties, with the people of Iran and Venezuela in their struggle to be free from despotism.

On the other, there is the myriad of counties, cities, streets, parks, squares, schools, etc all over the US commemorating France's having materially thrown in, against a third party, with the 13 American colonies, primarily through the Marquis de Lafayette, in our struggle to be free from despotism.

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On the other hand we live in a despotic country where what little freedoms we have left are constantly being assailed... in other words I'd rather see some people in DC eat some bullets than people half the world away who have no impact whatsoever on my daily life.

When did Americans become so weak and docile?

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When did you take a shot at a politician or judge?

If the answer is never, either call yourself weak and docile or, call yourself sensible. Either way, you are not the revolutionary you seem to imagine yourself being.

Monday, is this WoW night or DnD?

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What keeps me sane is recognizing that things are going to changes dramatically in the next 10 years once all you Boomers start dropping like flies.

And these changes are going to be more American First and for the better.

The_barBEARian said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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canoso said:

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One the one hand, multitudes are screaming that the US is wrong in materially throwing in, against third parties, with the people of Iran and Venezuela in their struggle to be free from despotism.

On the other, there is the myriad of counties, cities, streets, parks, squares, schools, etc all over the US commemorating France's having materially thrown in, against a third party, with the 13 American colonies, primarily through the Marquis de Lafayette, in our struggle to be free from despotism.

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On the other hand we live in a despotic country where what little freedoms we have left are constantly being assailed... in other words I'd rather see some people in DC eat some bullets than people half the world away who have no impact whatsoever on my daily life.

When did Americans become so weak and docile?

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When did you take a shot at a politician or judge?

If the answer is never, either call yourself weak and docile or, call yourself sensible. Either way, you are not the revolutionary you seem to imagine yourself being.

Monday, is this WoW night or DnD?

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What keeps me sane is recognizing that things are going to changes dramatically in the next 10 years once all you Boomers start dropping like flies.

And these changes are going to be more American First and for the better.

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Yeah, probably not. Here's why. As you age you recognize that in life your neighbors matter. Living in Houston's 3rd Ward is very different than living in the rich suburbs of Dallas. In the case of the world and the US, it's pretty clear that we won't be able to count on Europe. But yet, you will be sitting back and enjoying your imported oil that Trump and others have secured for you.

The truth is guys like you would allow China to roll over the rest of the planet unchecked, and say that it doesn't matter because they don't impact your daily life. But they will affect your kids and your grandkids life. Our very involvement in WW1 and WW2 advanced liberty. So yeah, today you're not smart enough to know when to be involved and when not to be because your criteria is "impacts your daily life". Sometimes the US has to stand for liberty in other parts of the world. We don't have to be the world police, but when it clearly has national security implications, then it's a lot more difficult to just walk away and let China and Russia continue to undermine the US and the West.

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The_barBEARian said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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canoso said:

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One the one hand, multitudes are screaming that the US is wrong in materially throwing in, against third parties, with the people of Iran and Venezuela in their struggle to be free from despotism.

On the other, there is the myriad of counties, cities, streets, parks, squares, schools, etc all over the US commemorating France's having materially thrown in, against a third party, with the 13 American colonies, primarily through the Marquis de Lafayette, in our struggle to be free from despotism.

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On the other hand we live in a despotic country where what little freedoms we have left are constantly being assailed... in other words I'd rather see some people in DC eat some bullets than people half the world away who have no impact whatsoever on my daily life.

When did Americans become so weak and docile?

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When did you take a shot at a politician or judge?

If the answer is never, either call yourself weak and docile or, call yourself sensible. Either way, you are not the revolutionary you seem to imagine yourself being.

Monday, is this WoW night or DnD?

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What keeps me sane is recognizing that things are going to changes dramatically in the next 10 years once all you Boomers start dropping like flies.

And these changes are going to be more American First and for the better.

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Yeah, probably not. Here's why. As you age you recognize that in life your neighbors matter. Living in Houston's 3rd Ward is very different than living in the rich suburbs of Dallas. In the case of the world and the US, it's pretty clear that we won't be able to count on Europe. But yet, you will be sitting back and enjoying your imported oil that Trump and others have secured for you.

The truth is guys like you would allow China to roll over the rest of the planet unchecked, and say that it doesn't matter because they don't impact your daily life. But they will affect your kids and your grandkids life. Our very involvement in WW1 and WW2 advanced liberty. So yeah, today you're not smart enough to know when to be involved and when not to be because your criteria is "impacts your daily life". Sometimes the US has to stand for liberty in other parts of the world. We don't have to be the world police, but when it clearly has national security implications, then it's a lot more difficult to just walk away and let China and Russia continue to undermine the US and the West.

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That will be perceived as mythology, which it mostly is. It's ironic that the neighbors who matter don't seem to include younger Americans. You'd have better luck exhorting them to fight for the glory of the Galactic Empire. At least then they would have cool laser guns.

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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canoso said:

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One the one hand, multitudes are screaming that the US is wrong in materially throwing in, against third parties, with the people of Iran and Venezuela in their struggle to be free from despotism.

On the other, there is the myriad of counties, cities, streets, parks, squares, schools, etc all over the US commemorating France's having materially thrown in, against a third party, with the 13 American colonies, primarily through the Marquis de Lafayette, in our struggle to be free from despotism.

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On the other hand we live in a despotic country where what little freedoms we have left are constantly being assailed... in other words I'd rather see some people in DC eat some bullets than people half the world away who have no impact whatsoever on my daily life.

When did Americans become so weak and docile?

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When did you take a shot at a politician or judge?

If the answer is never, either call yourself weak and docile or, call yourself sensible. Either way, you are not the revolutionary you seem to imagine yourself being.

Monday, is this WoW night or DnD?

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What keeps me sane is recognizing that things are going to changes dramatically in the next 10 years once all you Boomers start dropping like flies.

And these changes are going to be more American First and for the better.

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Yeah, probably not. Here's why. As you age you recognize that in life your neighbors matter. Living in Houston's 3rd Ward is very different than living in the rich suburbs of Dallas. In the case of the world and the US, it's pretty clear that we won't be able to count on Europe. But yet, you will be sitting back and enjoying your imported oil that Trump and others have secured for you.

The truth is guys like you would allow China to roll over the rest of the planet unchecked, and say that it doesn't matter because they don't impact your daily life. But they will affect your kids and your grandkids life. Our very involvement in WW1 and WW2 advanced liberty. So yeah, today you're not smart enough to know when to be involved and when not to be because your criteria is "impacts your daily life". Sometimes the US has to stand for liberty in other parts of the world. We don't have to be the world police, but when it clearly has national security implications, then it's a lot more difficult to just walk away and let China and Russia continue to undermine the US and the West.

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I have lived through your foreign policy my entire life and it has been an abject failure.

Millennials are going to be the first generation that will be objectively poorer than their parents generation.

Boomers have dug such a deep hole there may not even be a country left by the time I am your age.

Trump 'Favors' Attacking Iran, Vance Pushing Back, As President Pezeshkian In Streets For Large Counter-Protests


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-already-receiving-briefings-military-strike-options-iran-protest-deaths-soar

" latest reports from inside the country show waning anti-govt protests. Instead, they've been supplanted by huge pro-government counter-demonstrations. "Millions" or at least hundreds of thousands have come out for these 'loyalist' demonstrations. And even the country's President Masoud Pezeshkian was out confidently and defiantly strolling the streets Monday...

Footage of Iranian Prez Pezeshkian participating in a pro-gov rally in Tehran https://t.co/2A2UIK8ZgM pic.twitter.com/Q412SWWYzx
RT (@RT_com) January 12, 2026

One regional analyst and observer reacts to Monday's developments, after a weekend security crackdown unleashed at least scores of casualties:

The Islamic Republic is sending two important signals here:

1. It retains control in large cities (or at least the ones/areas we're getting footage from)

2. It can still countermobilize its base of support (and others forced to turn out) in large numbers.

He concludes, "If this is it, these anti-regime protests may well fizzle out before long"

These protests are always astro-turfed by Mossad to convince extremely low IQ Boomers in America that the regime is on the brink and America should fight and pay for Israel's war with Iran so they can install a puppet government like they've done in so many other places.

**** Israel. **** Iran. Spend money and attention here in America and reduce the debt.

U.S. hits $38 trillion in debt, after the fastest accumulation of $1 trillion outside of the pandemic

We shouldnt be liberating Iran... we should be liberating the UK.

JUST IN: The UK has now arrested more than 12,000 people for free speech online.

— Polymarket (@Polymarket) January 12, 2026

German Chancellor Merz: “The Iranian regime is close to collapse. These are its final days or weeks.”

“We are witnessing the last days or weeks of this regime […] When a regime can remain in power only through violence, it has de facto already reached its end.” pic.twitter.com/aTJiZBltnM

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) January 13, 2026

boognish_bear said:

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German Chancellor Merz: “The Iranian regime is close to collapse. These are its final days or weeks.”

“We are witnessing the last days or weeks of this regime […] When a regime can remain in power only through violence, it has de facto already reached its end.” pic.twitter.com/aTJiZBltnM

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) January 13, 2026

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need to make this jjapppen.

- tbp*

{ slurping coffee }

p*D!