Imagine willfully not trying tohonor Mary as much as our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ

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Fre3dombear
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Persevere / endure until the end vs protestant OSAS

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Oldbear83
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Some folks would argue their opinion against Christ Himself.

Many in Rome included.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
historian
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Fre3dombear said:

historian said:

The gospels say otherwise with explicit references to his family, including his brothers' names and the phrases, "and sisters". Besides, that idea is absurd. She was married to Joseph and God's command in the OT was to have children. For them not to try would have been sin.


This has been explained ad nauseum. Your position has no defense other than "thats absurd" which is as good as an atheist saying thats absurd to Jesus rising bodily from the dead.

You are rejecting even what the founder of your beliefs didnt reject himself and no one rejected until someone named Calvin appeared and later.

Worth considering

You are going to be in shock. But thats how free will go on these things.

You cannot win an argument with false assumptions and by declaring victory. The founder of my beliefs is Jesus Christ and the source of my statement about the family of Jesus is from the gospels. The text is quite clear about His mother, brothers, & sisters. Anyone else trying to "explain" the idea that Mary remained a virgin, which is totally illogical and completely unsupported by scripture, is engaged in propaganda. I reject those arguments because God's word is the highest authority.

There is no scriptural basis for praying to anyone but God. Christ is our intercessor, or the Holy Spirit. Paul made that clear in his letters.
 
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