Liberals know she accelerated into the man, they just don't care

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Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Why isn't ICE setting up raids in Texas? There are far more illegal immigrants here than in Minneapolis. They should just start grabbing Brown people in Plano and Richardson off the streets and asking for their papers. Maybe go to Tyler and Marshal.

The weather is nicer. We have Home Depot's. Schools might even be willing to let them in.


There are several reasons for that.

1. Most places in TX when a criminal is arrested and found to be an illegal they call ice to deport them not release them into the streets like these blue cities.

2. Illegals aren't voting in TX

3. Ice is working in TX. There was even a thread in the Waco forum about a local food truck owner being deported.

4. They aren't meeting as many protesters here so not as much coverage.

5. TX has seen a lot of self deportations so no need for huge raids to go after the non violent ones yet.

Illegals aren't voting anywhere. Hell, Americans aren't voting much.

They're in Minneapolis (Chicago, DC, etc) to provoke. period. Walking up to minorities on the streets and grabbing them isn't effective. It's terrorism.

Absolute bull*****

Any state that isproviding driver's licenses to illegals....the potential for those illegals to vote exists.

But you already know that and approve of the practice. Anything to bolster the vote for your increasingly white hating Democratic Party.
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You need new lies, Mitch. Those you just used are stale, disproven and no one with an IQ above 50 buys them anymore.
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Oldbear83 said:

You need new lies, Mitch. Those you just used are stale, disproven and no one with an IQ above 50 buys them anymore.


He's convinced all these white guys in MAGA hats are arresting illegals when they leave Subway and putting nooses around their necks.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Oldbear83 said:

You need new lies, Mitch. Those you just used are stale, disproven and no one with an IQ above 50 buys them anymore.


He's convinced all these white guys in MAGA hats are arresting illegals when they leave Subway and putting nooses around their necks.

Especially late night in Chicago!
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Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Why isn't ICE setting up raids in Texas? There are far more illegal immigrants here than in Minneapolis. They should just start grabbing Brown people in Plano and Richardson off the streets and asking for their papers. Maybe go to Tyler and Marshal.

The weather is nicer. We have Home Depot's. Schools might even be willing to let them in.


There are several reasons for that.

1. Most places in TX when a criminal is arrested and found to be an illegal they call ice to deport them not release them into the streets like these blue cities.

2. Illegals aren't voting in TX

3. Ice is working in TX. There was even a thread in the Waco forum about a local food truck owner being deported.

4. They aren't meeting as many protesters here so not as much coverage.

5. TX has seen a lot of self deportations so no need for huge raids to go after the non violent ones yet.

Illegals aren't voting anywhere. Hell, Americans aren't voting much.

They're in Minneapolis (Chicago, DC, etc) to provoke. period. Walking up to minorities on the streets and grabbing them isn't effective. It's terrorism.


This is a head in the sand response. There are problems in areas.
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Oldbear83 said:

You need new lies, Mitch. Those you just used are stale, disproven and no one with an IQ above 50 buys them anymore.

Evidence is your friend.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Oldbear83 said:

You need new lies, Mitch. Those you just used are stale, disproven and no one with an IQ above 50 buys them anymore.

Evidence is your friend.

Indeed, and you have none of it.

Lies, gossip, spite, is all you have.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Oldbear83 said:

You need new lies, Mitch. Those you just used are stale, disproven and no one with an IQ above 50 buys them anymore.

Evidence is your friend.

Did you support Tim Walz having the national guard and local police arresting people off the street for being outside during covid? Do you support the state encourage neighbors to rat on neighbors if they were seen outside?
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Guy Noir said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Guy Noir said:

I think the ICE agent who foolishly stepped in front of a moving car deserves some of the blame for escalating the situation.

lol. Broken brain is broken.

Your goofy take - "Cops shouldn't be in front of people that posses a deadly weapon. Cops should walk away from everyone otherwise they might "cause" the other person to intentionally ram them with a vehicle"

And to be clear, he didn't step in front of a moving car, he was in front of a car that wasn't moving. He actually was hit while getting out of the way.

You know this, but you don't care.



You rationalize and make claims that will never be proven. The wheels of the car were turned to go around the ICE Officer. I have not seen any reports of the Officer being injured so he was able to move out of the way.

Telling me my brain is broken and making assumptions is an obnoxious way of arguing your point of view. In Psychology it has been demonstrated the people tend to perceive what they wish to perceive. You are showing no objectivity whatsoever. You are very biased.

ICE needs to work with communities not strong arm them. They need to develop positive relationship with these people even though some of them are against them.







She looked right at him and drove into him. Purposely. The turned wheels only prove that she wasn't trying to run over him. But she intentionally drove into him.

I am not saying she deserved to be shot, only that she clearly drove into him, and sadly she is dead for being stupid.

And he was hit and injured apparently as well. Not seriously injured though.

Last, I don't care which side of the aisle was driving, you can't drive into a police officer on purpose.

Can you share the close-up footage that shows exactly where she was looking? TIA.
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Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Guy Noir said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Guy Noir said:

I think the ICE agent who foolishly stepped in front of a moving car deserves some of the blame for escalating the situation.

lol. Broken brain is broken.

Your goofy take - "Cops shouldn't be in front of people that posses a deadly weapon. Cops should walk away from everyone otherwise they might "cause" the other person to intentionally ram them with a vehicle"

And to be clear, he didn't step in front of a moving car, he was in front of a car that wasn't moving. He actually was hit while getting out of the way.

You know this, but you don't care.



You rationalize and make claims that will never be proven. The wheels of the car were turned to go around the ICE Officer. I have not seen any reports of the Officer being injured so he was able to move out of the way.

Telling me my brain is broken and making assumptions is an obnoxious way of arguing your point of view. In Psychology it has been demonstrated the people tend to perceive what they wish to perceive. You are showing no objectivity whatsoever. You are very biased.

ICE needs to work with communities not strong arm them. They need to develop positive relationship with these people even though some of them are against them.







She looked right at him and drove into him. Purposely. The turned wheels only prove that she wasn't trying to run over him. But she intentionally drove into him.

I am not saying she deserved to be shot, only that she clearly drove into him, and sadly she is dead for being stupid.

And he was hit and injured apparently as well. Not seriously injured though.

Last, I don't care which side of the aisle was driving, you can't drive into a police officer on purpose.

Can you share the close-up footage that shows exactly where she was looking? TIA.
It's been shared already. The officers camera footage proves she looked directly at him.
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Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Guy Noir said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Guy Noir said:

I think the ICE agent who foolishly stepped in front of a moving car deserves some of the blame for escalating the situation.

lol. Broken brain is broken.

Your goofy take - "Cops shouldn't be in front of people that posses a deadly weapon. Cops should walk away from everyone otherwise they might "cause" the other person to intentionally ram them with a vehicle"

And to be clear, he didn't step in front of a moving car, he was in front of a car that wasn't moving. He actually was hit while getting out of the way.

You know this, but you don't care.



You rationalize and make claims that will never be proven. The wheels of the car were turned to go around the ICE Officer. I have not seen any reports of the Officer being injured so he was able to move out of the way.

Telling me my brain is broken and making assumptions is an obnoxious way of arguing your point of view. In Psychology it has been demonstrated the people tend to perceive what they wish to perceive. You are showing no objectivity whatsoever. You are very biased.

ICE needs to work with communities not strong arm them. They need to develop positive relationship with these people even though some of them are against them.







She looked right at him and drove into him. Purposely. The turned wheels only prove that she wasn't trying to run over him. But she intentionally drove into him.

I am not saying she deserved to be shot, only that she clearly drove into him, and sadly she is dead for being stupid.

And he was hit and injured apparently as well. Not seriously injured though.

Last, I don't care which side of the aisle was driving, you can't drive into a police officer on purpose.

Can you share the close-up footage that shows exactly where she was looking? TIA.

It's been shared already. The officers camera footage proves she looked directly at him.

Try again.
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Take the loss, Sam.

Or continue to dig.

Watch the fiber-optic cable this time, 'K?
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Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Guy Noir said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Guy Noir said:

I think the ICE agent who foolishly stepped in front of a moving car deserves some of the blame for escalating the situation.

lol. Broken brain is broken.

Your goofy take - "Cops shouldn't be in front of people that posses a deadly weapon. Cops should walk away from everyone otherwise they might "cause" the other person to intentionally ram them with a vehicle"

And to be clear, he didn't step in front of a moving car, he was in front of a car that wasn't moving. He actually was hit while getting out of the way.

You know this, but you don't care.



You rationalize and make claims that will never be proven. The wheels of the car were turned to go around the ICE Officer. I have not seen any reports of the Officer being injured so he was able to move out of the way.

Telling me my brain is broken and making assumptions is an obnoxious way of arguing your point of view. In Psychology it has been demonstrated the people tend to perceive what they wish to perceive. You are showing no objectivity whatsoever. You are very biased.

ICE needs to work with communities not strong arm them. They need to develop positive relationship with these people even though some of them are against them.







She looked right at him and drove into him. Purposely. The turned wheels only prove that she wasn't trying to run over him. But she intentionally drove into him.

I am not saying she deserved to be shot, only that she clearly drove into him, and sadly she is dead for being stupid.

And he was hit and injured apparently as well. Not seriously injured though.

Last, I don't care which side of the aisle was driving, you can't drive into a police officer on purpose.

Can you share the close-up footage that shows exactly where she was looking? TIA.

It's been shared already. The officers camera footage proves she looked directly at him.

Try again.
should I try a different language? Because no matter how many times I explain why you're wrong and point you to the evidence to see for yourself, you just put your fingers in your ears and your head up your ass and run away.
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Joe Rogan - Lib? RINO?

Your papers, please...
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FLBear5630 said:

Joe Rogan - Lib? RINO?

Your papers, please...

Joe Rogan is not a real person. You made him up.
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FLBear5630 said:

Joe Rogan - Lib? RINO?

Your papers, please...


If you had two-brain cells to rub together, you would know the answer to you ******ed question.

It actually hurts my brain to contemplate what a ****** you have become.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Why isn't ICE setting up raids in Texas? There are far more illegal immigrants here than in Minneapolis. They should just start grabbing Brown people in Plano and Richardson off the streets and asking for their papers. Maybe go to Tyler and Marshal.

The weather is nicer. We have Home Depot's. Schools might even be willing to let them in.


There are several reasons for that.

1. Most places in TX when a criminal is arrested and found to be an illegal they call ice to deport them not release them into the streets like these blue cities.

2. Illegals aren't voting in TX

3. Ice is working in TX. There was even a thread in the Waco forum about a local food truck owner being deported.

4. They aren't meeting as many protesters here so not as much coverage.

5. TX has seen a lot of self deportations so no need for huge raids to go after the non violent ones yet.

Illegals aren't voting anywhere. Hell, Americans aren't voting much.

They're in Minneapolis (Chicago, DC, etc) to provoke. period. Walking up to minorities on the streets and grabbing them isn't effective. It's terrorism.


False.

And false.
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whiterock said:

Forest Bueller III said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

All the videos cleary show both of his feet were to the left of the vehicle when he fires. He shot her as she was leaving. One bullet went in the far left of the windshield. The other two went through the left window and killed her. Why? It doesnt matter if she was a carpet muncher or an idiot or an aggie. She was a human.

Virtually nobody on her seems to be willing to accept this fact. She was a human being. The last 2 shots he was completely out of any harm's way and simply fired in anger as he called her a "****ing *****".

Not only that, those last two shots, endangered others, and put a vehicle completely out of control, accelerating when she slumped forward dead, which could have killed or injured others on the ground.


There are reasons there is police policy not to do things this officer did.


that argument is as full of it as the proverbial Christmas Goose. Not just wrong, but maliciously so.

The officer was in front of the car. Was struck by the car. Was hospitalized with internal bleeding. = a superhighway of legal precedent about that. A car is a deadly weapon. Any person who attacks a police officer with a deadly weapon is a threat the the community which must be stopped. What she did was no different, legally, than pulling a firearm/knife on an officer. The moment she hit the accelerator, she became a threat to the entire community.

This is as about as clear a case of justified shooting as it gets. Please quit the neverTrump nonsense. It's going to get more people killed, officers and public alike.





Leo's are trained to shoot to kill. If they fire their gun, it means their life or another's is in danger. They are trained to never aim for a leg because that would mean they shot when their life wasn't in danger. Shoot center mass, shoot to kill, or don't shoot.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

whiterock said:

Forest Bueller III said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

All the videos cleary show both of his feet were to the left of the vehicle when he fires. He shot her as she was leaving. One bullet went in the far left of the windshield. The other two went through the left window and killed her. Why? It doesnt matter if she was a carpet muncher or an idiot or an aggie. She was a human.

Virtually nobody on her seems to be willing to accept this fact. She was a human being. The last 2 shots he was completely out of any harm's way and simply fired in anger as he called her a "****ing *****".

Not only that, those last two shots, endangered others, and put a vehicle completely out of control, accelerating when she slumped forward dead, which could have killed or injured others on the ground.


There are reasons there is police policy not to do things this officer did.


that argument is as full of it as the proverbial Christmas Goose. Not just wrong, but maliciously so.

The officer was in front of the car. Was struck by the car. Was hospitalized with internal bleeding. = a superhighway of legal precedent about that. A car is a deadly weapon. Any person who attacks a police officer with a deadly weapon is a threat the the community which must be stopped. What she did was no different, legally, than pulling a firearm/knife on an officer. The moment she hit the accelerator, she became a threat to the entire community.

This is as about as clear a case of justified shooting as it gets. Please quit the neverTrump nonsense. It's going to get more people killed, officers and public alike.





Leo's are trained to shoot to kill. If they fire their gun, it means their life or another's is in danger. They are trained to never aim for a leg because that would mean they shot when their life wasn't in danger. Shoot center mass, shoot to kill, or don't shoot.


They are not taught to shoot to kill. And shooting center mass does not mean shoot to kill. They are taught to stop the threat, not kill and center mass is a shooting technique to increase odds of hitting the target in high stress situations to stop a threat. They prefer the person not to die, which is why they immediately call for paramedics. LEO goal is not to kill, read their motto to serve and protect. They are trained to de-escalate. If involved in a shooting something went very wrong. If someone dies, something went horribly wrong.

This is where the masks and tactical gear come in on routine apprehensions. They de-humanize the officer and make it easier to go violent. People do not want to kill people, it is harder to hurt who you know. Put a mask on and it is no longer a person. This lady was not a sociopath killer, yet the officers escalated and dehumanized. This apprehension went terribly wrong. Yet, no one wants to admit it or fix it. Just blame the lady. Better yet, train to shoot to kill right?

Geez, you guys are playing too many online shooting games. Go to a war zone, dont even need to be combat troop. Just be there and see the carnage, Or better yet clean up after. Death is serious, not a phrase. People dont get a second life like Call of Duty. Dead is dead.
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FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

whiterock said:

Forest Bueller III said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

All the videos cleary show both of his feet were to the left of the vehicle when he fires. He shot her as she was leaving. One bullet went in the far left of the windshield. The other two went through the left window and killed her. Why? It doesnt matter if she was a carpet muncher or an idiot or an aggie. She was a human.

Virtually nobody on her seems to be willing to accept this fact. She was a human being. The last 2 shots he was completely out of any harm's way and simply fired in anger as he called her a "****ing *****".

Not only that, those last two shots, endangered others, and put a vehicle completely out of control, accelerating when she slumped forward dead, which could have killed or injured others on the ground.


There are reasons there is police policy not to do things this officer did.


that argument is as full of it as the proverbial Christmas Goose. Not just wrong, but maliciously so.

The officer was in front of the car. Was struck by the car. Was hospitalized with internal bleeding. = a superhighway of legal precedent about that. A car is a deadly weapon. Any person who attacks a police officer with a deadly weapon is a threat the the community which must be stopped. What she did was no different, legally, than pulling a firearm/knife on an officer. The moment she hit the accelerator, she became a threat to the entire community.

This is as about as clear a case of justified shooting as it gets. Please quit the neverTrump nonsense. It's going to get more people killed, officers and public alike.





Leo's are trained to shoot to kill. If they fire their gun, it means their life or another's is in danger. They are trained to never aim for a leg because that would mean they shot when their life wasn't in danger. Shoot center mass, shoot to kill, or don't shoot.


They are not taught to shoot to kill. And shooting center mass does not mean shoot to kill. They are taught to stop the threat, not kill and center mass is a shooting technique to increase odds of hitting the target in high stress situations to stop a threat. They prefer the person not to die, which is why they immediately call for paramedics. LEO goal is not to kill, read their motto to serve and protect. They are trained to de-escalate. If involved in a shooting something went very wrong. If someone dies, something went horribly wrong.

This is where the masks and tactical gear come in on routine apprehensions. They de-humanize the officer and make it easier to go violent. People do not want to kill people, it is harder to hurt who you know. Put a mask on and it is no longer a person. This lady was not a sociopath killer, yet the officers escalated and dehumanized. This apprehension went terribly wrong. Yet, no one wants to admit it or fix it. Just blame the lady. Better yet, train to shoot to kill right?

Geez, you guys are playing too many online shooting games. Go to a war zone, dont even need to be combat troop. Just be there and see the carnage, Or better yet clean up after. Death is serious, not a phrase. People dont get a second life like Call of Duty. Dead is dead.



You're right but we're saying the same thing. You're using the politically correct language that sounds good. They do shoot to neutralize the threat and stop it, that is why they shoot center mass. You will likely never hear a cop say that they purposely aimed and shot a person in the leg - it'd have to be something very unusual.

And of course they want people to live, but shooting center mass is about neutralizing a person, they shoot to kill, and hope the person stops being a threat and lives. Who wouldn't prefer that? You don't like the terminology, that's fine. It's unsavory language. OK. They shoot center mass, typically multiple rounds, to neutralize. I'm good with that take.

And we all know it went wrong. We all know it's terrible. We all think it's terrible that she intentionally drove into the officer. We all think it's terrible that he felt the need to kill her.
Doesn't change that it happened, and it shouldn't be used by the press to show ICE officers as evil.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

whiterock said:

Forest Bueller III said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

All the videos cleary show both of his feet were to the left of the vehicle when he fires. He shot her as she was leaving. One bullet went in the far left of the windshield. The other two went through the left window and killed her. Why? It doesnt matter if she was a carpet muncher or an idiot or an aggie. She was a human.

Virtually nobody on her seems to be willing to accept this fact. She was a human being. The last 2 shots he was completely out of any harm's way and simply fired in anger as he called her a "****ing *****".

Not only that, those last two shots, endangered others, and put a vehicle completely out of control, accelerating when she slumped forward dead, which could have killed or injured others on the ground.


There are reasons there is police policy not to do things this officer did.


that argument is as full of it as the proverbial Christmas Goose. Not just wrong, but maliciously so.

The officer was in front of the car. Was struck by the car. Was hospitalized with internal bleeding. = a superhighway of legal precedent about that. A car is a deadly weapon. Any person who attacks a police officer with a deadly weapon is a threat the the community which must be stopped. What she did was no different, legally, than pulling a firearm/knife on an officer. The moment she hit the accelerator, she became a threat to the entire community.

This is as about as clear a case of justified shooting as it gets. Please quit the neverTrump nonsense. It's going to get more people killed, officers and public alike.





Leo's are trained to shoot to kill. If they fire their gun, it means their life or another's is in danger. They are trained to never aim for a leg because that would mean they shot when their life wasn't in danger. Shoot center mass, shoot to kill, or don't shoot.


They are not taught to shoot to kill. And shooting center mass does not mean shoot to kill. They are taught to stop the threat, not kill and center mass is a shooting technique to increase odds of hitting the target in high stress situations to stop a threat. They prefer the person not to die, which is why they immediately call for paramedics. LEO goal is not to kill, read their motto to serve and protect. They are trained to de-escalate. If involved in a shooting something went very wrong. If someone dies, something went horribly wrong.

This is where the masks and tactical gear come in on routine apprehensions. They de-humanize the officer and make it easier to go violent. People do not want to kill people, it is harder to hurt who you know. Put a mask on and it is no longer a person. This lady was not a sociopath killer, yet the officers escalated and dehumanized. This apprehension went terribly wrong. Yet, no one wants to admit it or fix it. Just blame the lady. Better yet, train to shoot to kill right?

Geez, you guys are playing too many online shooting games. Go to a war zone, dont even need to be combat troop. Just be there and see the carnage, Or better yet clean up after. Death is serious, not a phrase. People dont get a second life like Call of Duty. Dead is dead.



You're right but we're saying the same thing. You're using the politically correct language that sounds good. They do shoot to neutralize the threat and stop it, that is why they shoot center mass. You will likely never hear a cop say that they purposely aimed and shot a person in the leg - it'd have to be something very unusual.

And of course they want people to live, but shooting center mass is about neutralizing a person, they shoot to kill, and hope the person stops being a threat and lives. Who wouldn't prefer that? You don't like the terminology, that's fine. It's unsavory language. OK. They shoot center mass, typically multiple rounds, to neutralize. I'm good with that take.

And we all know it went wrong. We all know it's terrible. We all think it's terrible that she intentionally drove into the officer. We all think it's terrible that he felt the need to kill her.
Doesn't change that it happened, and it shouldn't be used by the press to show ICE officers as evil.

Yes, the outpouring of grief in the SicEm community over the death of the [checks notes] "fat dyke" has been deeply moving. Ditto the rush to judge her intentions on the flimsiest of evidence.
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Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

whiterock said:

Forest Bueller III said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

All the videos cleary show both of his feet were to the left of the vehicle when he fires. He shot her as she was leaving. One bullet went in the far left of the windshield. The other two went through the left window and killed her. Why? It doesnt matter if she was a carpet muncher or an idiot or an aggie. She was a human.

Virtually nobody on her seems to be willing to accept this fact. She was a human being. The last 2 shots he was completely out of any harm's way and simply fired in anger as he called her a "****ing *****".

Not only that, those last two shots, endangered others, and put a vehicle completely out of control, accelerating when she slumped forward dead, which could have killed or injured others on the ground.


There are reasons there is police policy not to do things this officer did.


that argument is as full of it as the proverbial Christmas Goose. Not just wrong, but maliciously so.

The officer was in front of the car. Was struck by the car. Was hospitalized with internal bleeding. = a superhighway of legal precedent about that. A car is a deadly weapon. Any person who attacks a police officer with a deadly weapon is a threat the the community which must be stopped. What she did was no different, legally, than pulling a firearm/knife on an officer. The moment she hit the accelerator, she became a threat to the entire community.

This is as about as clear a case of justified shooting as it gets. Please quit the neverTrump nonsense. It's going to get more people killed, officers and public alike.





Leo's are trained to shoot to kill. If they fire their gun, it means their life or another's is in danger. They are trained to never aim for a leg because that would mean they shot when their life wasn't in danger. Shoot center mass, shoot to kill, or don't shoot.


They are not taught to shoot to kill. And shooting center mass does not mean shoot to kill. They are taught to stop the threat, not kill and center mass is a shooting technique to increase odds of hitting the target in high stress situations to stop a threat. They prefer the person not to die, which is why they immediately call for paramedics. LEO goal is not to kill, read their motto to serve and protect. They are trained to de-escalate. If involved in a shooting something went very wrong. If someone dies, something went horribly wrong.

This is where the masks and tactical gear come in on routine apprehensions. They de-humanize the officer and make it easier to go violent. People do not want to kill people, it is harder to hurt who you know. Put a mask on and it is no longer a person. This lady was not a sociopath killer, yet the officers escalated and dehumanized. This apprehension went terribly wrong. Yet, no one wants to admit it or fix it. Just blame the lady. Better yet, train to shoot to kill right?

Geez, you guys are playing too many online shooting games. Go to a war zone, dont even need to be combat troop. Just be there and see the carnage, Or better yet clean up after. Death is serious, not a phrase. People dont get a second life like Call of Duty. Dead is dead.



You're right but we're saying the same thing. You're using the politically correct language that sounds good. They do shoot to neutralize the threat and stop it, that is why they shoot center mass. You will likely never hear a cop say that they purposely aimed and shot a person in the leg - it'd have to be something very unusual.

And of course they want people to live, but shooting center mass is about neutralizing a person, they shoot to kill, and hope the person stops being a threat and lives. Who wouldn't prefer that? You don't like the terminology, that's fine. It's unsavory language. OK. They shoot center mass, typically multiple rounds, to neutralize. I'm good with that take.

And we all know it went wrong. We all know it's terrible. We all think it's terrible that she intentionally drove into the officer. We all think it's terrible that he felt the need to kill her.
Doesn't change that it happened, and it shouldn't be used by the press to show ICE officers as evil.

Yes, the outpouring of grief in the SicEm community over the death of the [checks notes] "fat dyke" has been deeply moving. Ditto the rush to judge her intentions on the flimsiest of evidence.


C'mon man, people don't spend a lot of time worrying about "stupid criminals". There's so many of them, and life happens. Humans can't cry over every single loss across the globe. She intentionally ran into the man, objectively evident to anyone who's paying attention. And no she didn't try to run him over in my opinion.
Its sad for both, especially her. There should be a fair investigation conducted in the normal manner around officer shootings.

But if this was anything other than politically motivated ICE hate, people would have moved on from this story.

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

whiterock said:

Forest Bueller III said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

All the videos cleary show both of his feet were to the left of the vehicle when he fires. He shot her as she was leaving. One bullet went in the far left of the windshield. The other two went through the left window and killed her. Why? It doesnt matter if she was a carpet muncher or an idiot or an aggie. She was a human.

Virtually nobody on her seems to be willing to accept this fact. She was a human being. The last 2 shots he was completely out of any harm's way and simply fired in anger as he called her a "****ing *****".

Not only that, those last two shots, endangered others, and put a vehicle completely out of control, accelerating when she slumped forward dead, which could have killed or injured others on the ground.


There are reasons there is police policy not to do things this officer did.


that argument is as full of it as the proverbial Christmas Goose. Not just wrong, but maliciously so.

The officer was in front of the car. Was struck by the car. Was hospitalized with internal bleeding. = a superhighway of legal precedent about that. A car is a deadly weapon. Any person who attacks a police officer with a deadly weapon is a threat the the community which must be stopped. What she did was no different, legally, than pulling a firearm/knife on an officer. The moment she hit the accelerator, she became a threat to the entire community.

This is as about as clear a case of justified shooting as it gets. Please quit the neverTrump nonsense. It's going to get more people killed, officers and public alike.





Leo's are trained to shoot to kill. If they fire their gun, it means their life or another's is in danger. They are trained to never aim for a leg because that would mean they shot when their life wasn't in danger. Shoot center mass, shoot to kill, or don't shoot.


They are not taught to shoot to kill. And shooting center mass does not mean shoot to kill. They are taught to stop the threat, not kill and center mass is a shooting technique to increase odds of hitting the target in high stress situations to stop a threat. They prefer the person not to die, which is why they immediately call for paramedics. LEO goal is not to kill, read their motto to serve and protect. They are trained to de-escalate. If involved in a shooting something went very wrong. If someone dies, something went horribly wrong.

This is where the masks and tactical gear come in on routine apprehensions. They de-humanize the officer and make it easier to go violent. People do not want to kill people, it is harder to hurt who you know. Put a mask on and it is no longer a person. This lady was not a sociopath killer, yet the officers escalated and dehumanized. This apprehension went terribly wrong. Yet, no one wants to admit it or fix it. Just blame the lady. Better yet, train to shoot to kill right?

Geez, you guys are playing too many online shooting games. Go to a war zone, dont even need to be combat troop. Just be there and see the carnage, Or better yet clean up after. Death is serious, not a phrase. People dont get a second life like Call of Duty. Dead is dead.



You're right but we're saying the same thing. You're using the politically correct language that sounds good. They do shoot to neutralize the threat and stop it, that is why they shoot center mass. You will likely never hear a cop say that they purposely aimed and shot a person in the leg - it'd have to be something very unusual.

And of course they want people to live, but shooting center mass is about neutralizing a person, they shoot to kill, and hope the person stops being a threat and lives. Who wouldn't prefer that? You don't like the terminology, that's fine. It's unsavory language. OK. They shoot center mass, typically multiple rounds, to neutralize. I'm good with that take.

And we all know it went wrong. We all know it's terrible. We all think it's terrible that she intentionally drove into the officer. We all think it's terrible that he felt the need to kill her.
Doesn't change that it happened, and it shouldn't be used by the press to show ICE officers as evil.

We are good.
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Black 18 year old day care worker intentionally sufficates 11 month old white baby.

Says she was seeking 'attention'.

Wonder how much media attention tampon Tim brings to this murder ?


Prtobably little to none.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

whiterock said:

Forest Bueller III said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

All the videos cleary show both of his feet were to the left of the vehicle when he fires. He shot her as she was leaving. One bullet went in the far left of the windshield. The other two went through the left window and killed her. Why? It doesnt matter if she was a carpet muncher or an idiot or an aggie. She was a human.

Virtually nobody on her seems to be willing to accept this fact. She was a human being. The last 2 shots he was completely out of any harm's way and simply fired in anger as he called her a "****ing *****".

Not only that, those last two shots, endangered others, and put a vehicle completely out of control, accelerating when she slumped forward dead, which could have killed or injured others on the ground.


There are reasons there is police policy not to do things this officer did.


that argument is as full of it as the proverbial Christmas Goose. Not just wrong, but maliciously so.

The officer was in front of the car. Was struck by the car. Was hospitalized with internal bleeding. = a superhighway of legal precedent about that. A car is a deadly weapon. Any person who attacks a police officer with a deadly weapon is a threat the the community which must be stopped. What she did was no different, legally, than pulling a firearm/knife on an officer. The moment she hit the accelerator, she became a threat to the entire community.

This is as about as clear a case of justified shooting as it gets. Please quit the neverTrump nonsense. It's going to get more people killed, officers and public alike.





Leo's are trained to shoot to kill. If they fire their gun, it means their life or another's is in danger. They are trained to never aim for a leg because that would mean they shot when their life wasn't in danger. Shoot center mass, shoot to kill, or don't shoot.


They are not taught to shoot to kill. And shooting center mass does not mean shoot to kill. They are taught to stop the threat, not kill and center mass is a shooting technique to increase odds of hitting the target in high stress situations to stop a threat. They prefer the person not to die, which is why they immediately call for paramedics. LEO goal is not to kill, read their motto to serve and protect. They are trained to de-escalate. If involved in a shooting something went very wrong. If someone dies, something went horribly wrong.

This is where the masks and tactical gear come in on routine apprehensions. They de-humanize the officer and make it easier to go violent. People do not want to kill people, it is harder to hurt who you know. Put a mask on and it is no longer a person. This lady was not a sociopath killer, yet the officers escalated and dehumanized. This apprehension went terribly wrong. Yet, no one wants to admit it or fix it. Just blame the lady. Better yet, train to shoot to kill right?

Geez, you guys are playing too many online shooting games. Go to a war zone, dont even need to be combat troop. Just be there and see the carnage, Or better yet clean up after. Death is serious, not a phrase. People dont get a second life like Call of Duty. Dead is dead.



You're right but we're saying the same thing. You're using the politically correct language that sounds good. They do shoot to neutralize the threat and stop it, that is why they shoot center mass. You will likely never hear a cop say that they purposely aimed and shot a person in the leg - it'd have to be something very unusual.

And of course they want people to live, but shooting center mass is about neutralizing a person, they shoot to kill, and hope the person stops being a threat and lives. Who wouldn't prefer that? You don't like the terminology, that's fine. It's unsavory language. OK. They shoot center mass, typically multiple rounds, to neutralize. I'm good with that take.

And we all know it went wrong. We all know it's terrible. We all think it's terrible that she intentionally drove into the officer. We all think it's terrible that he felt the need to kill her.
Doesn't change that it happened, and it shouldn't be used by the press to show ICE officers as evil.

Yes, the outpouring of grief in the SicEm community over the death of the [checks notes] "fat dyke" has been deeply moving. Ditto the rush to judge her intentions on the flimsiest of evidence.


C'mon man, people don't spend a lot of time worrying about "stupid criminals". There's so many of them, and life happens. Humans can't cry over every single loss across the globe. She intentionally ran into the man, objectively evident to anyone who's paying attention. And no she didn't try to run him over in my opinion.
Its sad for both, especially her. There should be a fair investigation conducted in the normal manner around officer shootings.

But if this was anything other than politically motivated ICE hate, people would have moved on from this story.




If there wasn't so much ginned up ICE hate over deportations of illegals, Ms. Good would still be alive, most likely.
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TexasScientist said:

historian said:

The woman committed suicide by law enforcement authority. It was incredibly stupid but she made lots of stupid divisions before then, including even being there.

What kind of person shows up at a location where criminals are being arrested with the purpose of preventing justice? And then expects to be treated like a hero and even worse, often is? The fascists are becoming crazier every day with plenty of help from fascist politicians and the fascist propaganda machine (aka the "media"). Nick Shirley is a better journalist than anyone with a Pulitzer in recent years or anyone else in MSM.

I think you're question and comment is spot on about her being there. However, you continute to misunderstand the term fascist. Facists make up a part of the extreme right - look it up.

I gave a very clear understanding of the term "fascist" and it's not what most people assume, especially on the Left. Fascists are not a part of the right, but the Left. The truth of the matter is that many on the Left are actually fascists without realizing or understanding it. And the violence that many are perpetrating in 21st America are too similar to what the black shirts and brown shirts did in 1920s Italy & Germany.
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cowboycwr said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Liberals know she accelerated into the LE officer, they just don't care.

These are the same people who if they get control of the government, they will run over the people of this country.


Exactly. They spend more time protecting criminals, and violent ones at that, just because they hate Trump.

They cry about the J6 pardons when most of those people were not violent.

But they are silent about the massive mobs that burned cities down across the country.

They are silent about the people who are murdered by these immigrants.

They are silent about the people murdered by criminals that have been released by a liberal judge even though they are on their 12th crime.

They are silent about attacks on white people, like the poor Ukrainian girl on the train.

They are silent about the people hurt by these protestors blocking roads, being surrounded and attacked.

They are silent on the two gang members who attacked police.

They are silent about guns when it is black on black crime.

They quickly move on to a new story when it is Dem fraud.

They quickly move on when a mass shooter is not white.

They only know how to push narratives given to them by the media.

The "media" are actually propagandists, often using the same techniques of Lenin & Goebbels. Too many people are historically ignorant to know better. Even some who think they know something about history simply believe what a Leftist teacher taught them in school and assume it's correct. That's no more true about fascism as it is for the Climate Cult (50+ years of dire predictions always proven false) or the Trans Cult who still don't know what a woman is.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

whiterock said:

Forest Bueller III said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

All the videos cleary show both of his feet were to the left of the vehicle when he fires. He shot her as she was leaving. One bullet went in the far left of the windshield. The other two went through the left window and killed her. Why? It doesnt matter if she was a carpet muncher or an idiot or an aggie. She was a human.

Virtually nobody on her seems to be willing to accept this fact. She was a human being. The last 2 shots he was completely out of any harm's way and simply fired in anger as he called her a "****ing *****".

Not only that, those last two shots, endangered others, and put a vehicle completely out of control, accelerating when she slumped forward dead, which could have killed or injured others on the ground.


There are reasons there is police policy not to do things this officer did.


that argument is as full of it as the proverbial Christmas Goose. Not just wrong, but maliciously so.

The officer was in front of the car. Was struck by the car. Was hospitalized with internal bleeding. = a superhighway of legal precedent about that. A car is a deadly weapon. Any person who attacks a police officer with a deadly weapon is a threat the the community which must be stopped. What she did was no different, legally, than pulling a firearm/knife on an officer. The moment she hit the accelerator, she became a threat to the entire community.

This is as about as clear a case of justified shooting as it gets. Please quit the neverTrump nonsense. It's going to get more people killed, officers and public alike.





Leo's are trained to shoot to kill. If they fire their gun, it means their life or another's is in danger. They are trained to never aim for a leg because that would mean they shot when their life wasn't in danger. Shoot center mass, shoot to kill, or don't shoot.


They are not taught to shoot to kill. And shooting center mass does not mean shoot to kill. They are taught to stop the threat, not kill and center mass is a shooting technique to increase odds of hitting the target in high stress situations to stop a threat. They prefer the person not to die, which is why they immediately call for paramedics. LEO goal is not to kill, read their motto to serve and protect. They are trained to de-escalate. If involved in a shooting something went very wrong. If someone dies, something went horribly wrong.

This is where the masks and tactical gear come in on routine apprehensions. They de-humanize the officer and make it easier to go violent. People do not want to kill people, it is harder to hurt who you know. Put a mask on and it is no longer a person. This lady was not a sociopath killer, yet the officers escalated and dehumanized. This apprehension went terribly wrong. Yet, no one wants to admit it or fix it. Just blame the lady. Better yet, train to shoot to kill right?

Geez, you guys are playing too many online shooting games. Go to a war zone, dont even need to be combat troop. Just be there and see the carnage, Or better yet clean up after. Death is serious, not a phrase. People dont get a second life like Call of Duty. Dead is dead.



You're right but we're saying the same thing. You're using the politically correct language that sounds good. They do shoot to neutralize the threat and stop it, that is why they shoot center mass. You will likely never hear a cop say that they purposely aimed and shot a person in the leg - it'd have to be something very unusual.

And of course they want people to live, but shooting center mass is about neutralizing a person, they shoot to kill, and hope the person stops being a threat and lives. Who wouldn't prefer that? You don't like the terminology, that's fine. It's unsavory language. OK. They shoot center mass, typically multiple rounds, to neutralize. I'm good with that take.

And we all know it went wrong. We all know it's terrible. We all think it's terrible that she intentionally drove into the officer. We all think it's terrible that he felt the need to kill her.
Doesn't change that it happened, and it shouldn't be used by the press to show ICE officers as evil.

Yes, the outpouring of grief in the SicEm community over the death of the [checks notes] "fat dyke" has been deeply moving. Ditto the rush to judge her intentions on the flimsiest of evidence.


Do you blame the Capitol Police for killing Aslhlee Babbitt?
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cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Why isn't ICE setting up raids in Texas? There are far more illegal immigrants here than in Minneapolis. They should just start grabbing Brown people in Plano and Richardson off the streets and asking for their papers. Maybe go to Tyler and Marshal.

The weather is nicer. We have Home Depot's. Schools might even be willing to let them in.


There are several reasons for that.

1. Most places in TX when a criminal is arrested and found to be an illegal they call ice to deport them not release them into the streets like these blue cities.

2. Illegals aren't voting in TX

3. Ice is working in TX. There was even a thread in the Waco forum about a local food truck owner being deported.

4. They aren't meeting as many protesters here so not as much coverage.

5. TX has seen a lot of self deportations so no need for huge raids to go after the non violent ones yet.

Illegals aren't voting anywhere. Hell, Americans aren't voting much.

They're in Minneapolis (Chicago, DC, etc) to provoke. period. Walking up to minorities on the streets and grabbing them isn't effective. It's terrorism.


False.

And false.


Cow dog, evidence sour friend, too.
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EatMoreSalmon said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

whiterock said:

Forest Bueller III said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

All the videos cleary show both of his feet were to the left of the vehicle when he fires. He shot her as she was leaving. One bullet went in the far left of the windshield. The other two went through the left window and killed her. Why? It doesnt matter if she was a carpet muncher or an idiot or an aggie. She was a human.

Virtually nobody on her seems to be willing to accept this fact. She was a human being. The last 2 shots he was completely out of any harm's way and simply fired in anger as he called her a "****ing *****".

Not only that, those last two shots, endangered others, and put a vehicle completely out of control, accelerating when she slumped forward dead, which could have killed or injured others on the ground.


There are reasons there is police policy not to do things this officer did.


that argument is as full of it as the proverbial Christmas Goose. Not just wrong, but maliciously so.

The officer was in front of the car. Was struck by the car. Was hospitalized with internal bleeding. = a superhighway of legal precedent about that. A car is a deadly weapon. Any person who attacks a police officer with a deadly weapon is a threat the the community which must be stopped. What she did was no different, legally, than pulling a firearm/knife on an officer. The moment she hit the accelerator, she became a threat to the entire community.

This is as about as clear a case of justified shooting as it gets. Please quit the neverTrump nonsense. It's going to get more people killed, officers and public alike.





Leo's are trained to shoot to kill. If they fire their gun, it means their life or another's is in danger. They are trained to never aim for a leg because that would mean they shot when their life wasn't in danger. Shoot center mass, shoot to kill, or don't shoot.


They are not taught to shoot to kill. And shooting center mass does not mean shoot to kill. They are taught to stop the threat, not kill and center mass is a shooting technique to increase odds of hitting the target in high stress situations to stop a threat. They prefer the person not to die, which is why they immediately call for paramedics. LEO goal is not to kill, read their motto to serve and protect. They are trained to de-escalate. If involved in a shooting something went very wrong. If someone dies, something went horribly wrong.

This is where the masks and tactical gear come in on routine apprehensions. They de-humanize the officer and make it easier to go violent. People do not want to kill people, it is harder to hurt who you know. Put a mask on and it is no longer a person. This lady was not a sociopath killer, yet the officers escalated and dehumanized. This apprehension went terribly wrong. Yet, no one wants to admit it or fix it. Just blame the lady. Better yet, train to shoot to kill right?

Geez, you guys are playing too many online shooting games. Go to a war zone, dont even need to be combat troop. Just be there and see the carnage, Or better yet clean up after. Death is serious, not a phrase. People dont get a second life like Call of Duty. Dead is dead.



You're right but we're saying the same thing. You're using the politically correct language that sounds good. They do shoot to neutralize the threat and stop it, that is why they shoot center mass. You will likely never hear a cop say that they purposely aimed and shot a person in the leg - it'd have to be something very unusual.

And of course they want people to live, but shooting center mass is about neutralizing a person, they shoot to kill, and hope the person stops being a threat and lives. Who wouldn't prefer that? You don't like the terminology, that's fine. It's unsavory language. OK. They shoot center mass, typically multiple rounds, to neutralize. I'm good with that take.

And we all know it went wrong. We all know it's terrible. We all think it's terrible that she intentionally drove into the officer. We all think it's terrible that he felt the need to kill her.
Doesn't change that it happened, and it shouldn't be used by the press to show ICE officers as evil.

Yes, the outpouring of grief in the SicEm community over the death of the [checks notes] "fat dyke" has been deeply moving. Ditto the rush to judge her intentions on the flimsiest of evidence.


C'mon man, people don't spend a lot of time worrying about "stupid criminals". There's so many of them, and life happens. Humans can't cry over every single loss across the globe. She intentionally ran into the man, objectively evident to anyone who's paying attention. And no she didn't try to run him over in my opinion.
Its sad for both, especially her. There should be a fair investigation conducted in the normal manner around officer shootings.

But if this was anything other than politically motivated ICE hate, people would have moved on from this story.




If there wasn't so much ginned up ICE hate over deportations of illegals, Ms. Good would still be alive, most likely.


Correct. 99% of problems are caused by Democrats..
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historian said:

TexasScientist said:

historian said:

The woman committed suicide by law enforcement authority. It was incredibly stupid but she made lots of stupid divisions before then, including even being there.

What kind of person shows up at a location where criminals are being arrested with the purpose of preventing justice? And then expects to be treated like a hero and even worse, often is? The fascists are becoming crazier every day with plenty of help from fascist politicians and the fascist propaganda machine (aka the "media"). Nick Shirley is a better journalist than anyone with a Pulitzer in recent years or anyone else in MSM.

I think you're question and comment is spot on about her being there. However, you continute to misunderstand the term fascist. Facists make up a part of the extreme right - look it up.

I gave a very clear understanding of the term "fascist" and it's not what most people assume, especially on the Left. Fascists are not a part of the right, but the Left. The truth of the matter is that many on the Left are actually fascists without realizing or understanding it. And the violence that many are perpetrating in 21st America are too similar to what the black shirts and brown shirts did in 1920s Italy & Germany.


Fascism is an economic system not a political one. Anyone who uses it in a political sense - like Flat Earth - underscores their ignorance.
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KaiBear said:

Black 18 year old day care worker intentionally sufficates 11 month old white baby.

Says she was seeking 'attention'.

Wonder how much media attention tampon Tim brings to this murder ?


Prtobably little to none.


This isn't hard. If this is a true story, 18 year old should never see this side of the bars again.

I can assure you, there will be a ton of black women in jail who won't think this is cool or forgivable.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

Black 18 year old day care worker intentionally sufficates 11 month old white baby.

Says she was seeking 'attention'.

Wonder how much media attention tampon Tim brings to this murder ?


Prtobably little to none.


This isn't hard. If this is a true story, 18 year old should never see this side of the bars again.

2 different local media outlets have detailed the murder and her arrest.

Have not seen it mentioned on any national media.


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KaiBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

Black 18 year old day care worker intentionally sufficates 11 month old white baby.

Says she was seeking 'attention'.

Wonder how much media attention tampon Tim brings to this murder ?


Prtobably little to none.


This isn't hard. If this is a true story, 18 year old should never see this side of the bars again.

2 different local media outlets have detailed the murder and her arrest.

Have not seen it mentioned on any national media.




NY post picked it up:
https://nypost.com/2026/01/15/us-news/minnesota-day-care-worker-accused-of-fatally-suffocating-baby-days-before-his-first-birthday-to-seek-attention/

Do we need a national conversation on race?
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KaiBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

Black 18 year old day care worker intentionally sufficates 11 month old white baby.

Says she was seeking 'attention'.

Wonder how much media attention tampon Tim brings to this murder ?


Prtobably little to none.


This isn't hard. If this is a true story, 18 year old should never see this side of the bars again.

2 different local media outlets have detailed the murder and her arrest.

Have not seen it mentioned on any national media.





I'm not questioning what you're saying. I'm spending the day listening to "baby Beluga" and "Baby Shark"
 
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