The rising star of James Talarico

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Osodecentx
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4th and Inches said:

Osodecentx said:

historian said:

No, progressives are more depraved. They are all in on a totally depraved agenda:

- mass murder of innocents (especially in the womb)
- mutilation & poisoning children, including without parents' consent or knowledge
- open borders allowing terrorist, cartels, & other murderers & rapists into the U.S. at will
- fighting tooth & nail to keep these criminals in America
- stealing elections (2020 was not the first)
- various forms of racism: DEI, BLM, CRT, antisemitism, etc
- supporting groomers & pedophiles they are trying to normalize pedophilia
- various Marxist & socialist policies that make people poorer will reducing their liberty

And many more examples. They are totally depraved & evil.


People who disagree with you politically are not depraved & evil
Some who agree with you are
you mean

Not all People who disagree with you politically are not depraved & evil
Some who agree with you are

Right?

Maybe
Sam Lowry
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historian said:

No, progressives are more depraved. They are all in on a totally depraved agenda:

- mass murder of innocents (especially in the womb)
- mutilation & poisoning children, including without parents' consent or knowledge
- open borders allowing terrorist, cartels, & other murderers & rapists into the U.S. at will
- fighting tooth & nail to keep these criminals in America
- stealing elections (2020 was not the first)
- various forms of racism: DEI, BLM, CRT, antisemitism, etc
- supporting groomers & pedophiles they are trying to normalize pedophilia
- various Marxist & socialist policies that make people poorer will reducing their liberty

And many more examples. They are totally depraved & evil.

Unfortunately the Republican Party supports most of those evils, albeit in different ways. Examples include mass murder of innocents in wars of aggression, stealing elections in various ways ranging from voter suppression to insurrection, indiscriminate and illegal mass deportations, and mistreatment of the poor and working classes in ways too numerous to mention.
Oldbear83
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Somali Sam veers hard to the Left to appease his Sith overlords yet again.
Redbrickbear
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Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

No, progressives are more depraved. They are all in on a totally depraved agenda:

- mass murder of innocents (especially in the womb)
- mutilation & poisoning children, including without parents' consent or knowledge
- open borders allowing terrorist, cartels, & other murderers & rapists into the U.S. at will
- fighting tooth & nail to keep these criminals in America
- stealing elections (2020 was not the first)
- various forms of racism: DEI, BLM, CRT, antisemitism, etc
- supporting groomers & pedophiles they are trying to normalize pedophilia
- various Marxist & socialist policies that make people poorer will reducing their liberty

And many more examples. They are totally depraved & evil.

Unfortunately the Republican Party supports most of those evils, albeit in different ways. Examples include mass murder of innocents in wars of aggression...


As a long time critic of DC elites and their often foolish decisions for military actions….I would like to know what war we have fought since 1900 or so that was a "war of aggression" on our part.

Most people/counties we have fought either directly attacked us (Japan), declared war on us (Nazi Germany), or directly attacked our declared allies (N. Korea, N. Vietnam, Iraq, etc) or threaten regional or world peace in some way. (Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, etc)

We have hardly gone looking for wars.

Being the great economic & military power on earth…we have far more often enjoyed NOT risking any destabilizing events or crises

The Status quo always suits us more than unknown events
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Redbrickbear said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

No, progressives are more depraved. They are all in on a totally depraved agenda:

- mass murder of innocents (especially in the womb)
- mutilation & poisoning children, including without parents' consent or knowledge
- open borders allowing terrorist, cartels, & other murderers & rapists into the U.S. at will
- fighting tooth & nail to keep these criminals in America
- stealing elections (2020 was not the first)
- various forms of racism: DEI, BLM, CRT, antisemitism, etc
- supporting groomers & pedophiles they are trying to normalize pedophilia
- various Marxist & socialist policies that make people poorer will reducing their liberty

And many more examples. They are totally depraved & evil.

Unfortunately the Republican Party supports most of those evils, albeit in different ways. Examples include mass murder of innocents in wars of aggression...


As a long time critic of DC elites and their often foolish decisions for military actions….I would like to know what war we have fought since 1900 or so that was a "war of aggression" on our part.

Most people/counties we have fought either directly attacked us (Japan), declared war on us (Nazi Germany), or directly attacked our declared allies (N. Korea, N. Vietnam, Iraq, etc) or threaten regional or world peace in some way.


Who are you, and what have you done with Redbrickbear?
Redbrickbear
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Sam Lowry said:

Redbrickbear said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

No, progressives are more depraved. They are all in on a totally depraved agenda:

- mass murder of innocents (especially in the womb)
- mutilation & poisoning children, including without parents' consent or knowledge
- open borders allowing terrorist, cartels, & other murderers & rapists into the U.S. at will
- fighting tooth & nail to keep these criminals in America
- stealing elections (2020 was not the first)
- various forms of racism: DEI, BLM, CRT, antisemitism, etc
- supporting groomers & pedophiles they are trying to normalize pedophilia
- various Marxist & socialist policies that make people poorer will reducing their liberty

And many more examples. They are totally depraved & evil.

Unfortunately the Republican Party supports most of those evils, albeit in different ways. Examples include mass murder of innocents in wars of aggression...


As a long time critic of DC elites and their often foolish decisions for military actions….I would like to know what war we have fought since 1900 or so that was a "war of aggression" on our part.

Most people/counties we have fought either directly attacked us (Japan), declared war on us (Nazi Germany), or directly attacked our declared allies (N. Korea, N. Vietnam, Iraq, etc) or threaten regional or world peace in some way.


Who are you, and what have you done with Redbrickbear?


I'm still here distrusting the State Department and DC liberals all day every day…

Just not sure the mistakes we have made in the post WWII world are because of any acts of aggression on our part.

We can be dumb and utopian…but not particularly recklessly aggressive
Sam Lowry
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Redbrickbear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Redbrickbear said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

No, progressives are more depraved. They are all in on a totally depraved agenda:

- mass murder of innocents (especially in the womb)
- mutilation & poisoning children, including without parents' consent or knowledge
- open borders allowing terrorist, cartels, & other murderers & rapists into the U.S. at will
- fighting tooth & nail to keep these criminals in America
- stealing elections (2020 was not the first)
- various forms of racism: DEI, BLM, CRT, antisemitism, etc
- supporting groomers & pedophiles they are trying to normalize pedophilia
- various Marxist & socialist policies that make people poorer will reducing their liberty

And many more examples. They are totally depraved & evil.

Unfortunately the Republican Party supports most of those evils, albeit in different ways. Examples include mass murder of innocents in wars of aggression...


As a long time critic of DC elites and their often foolish decisions for military actions….I would like to know what war we have fought since 1900 or so that was a "war of aggression" on our part.

Most people/counties we have fought either directly attacked us (Japan), declared war on us (Nazi Germany), or directly attacked our declared allies (N. Korea, N. Vietnam, Iraq, etc) or threaten regional or world peace in some way.


Who are you, and what have you done with Redbrickbear?


I'm still here distrusting the State Department and DC liberals all day every day…

Just not sure the mistakes we have made in the post WWII world are because of any acts of aggression on our part.

We can be dumb and utopian…but not particularly recklessly aggressive

That's cool. I'm going to have to think about how to respond to it, because wow.
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Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Demons are real. But so is sinful human nature. Progressives for the most part are just godless hedonists. To be real, like most people without Christ. Progressives are just more depraved. Most sin in society is the absence of Christ in the citizens. The US society has always had its share of the depraved, but now it's openly celebrated, whereas before the participants tried to keep it hidden. The further society gets away from traditional Christianity the worst it is as a whole.

I agree with this.

I agree except for the part about progressives being more depraved. There are just different manifestations of depravity on both sides.
Conservatives tend to do the right things poorly whereas progressives do the wrong things pretty well. While the former destroys trust in principles, the latter is what destroys societies.
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ATL Bear said:


Conservatives tend to do the right things poorly whereas progressives do the wrong things pretty well. While the former destroys trust in principles, the latter is what destroys societies.


Good quote.
historian
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Osodecentx said:

historian said:

No, progressives are more depraved. They are all in on a totally depraved agenda:

- mass murder of innocents (especially in the womb)
- mutilation & poisoning children, including without parents' consent or knowledge
- open borders allowing terrorist, cartels, & other murderers & rapists into the U.S. at will
- fighting tooth & nail to keep these criminals in America
- stealing elections (2020 was not the first)
- various forms of racism: DEI, BLM, CRT, antisemitism, etc
- supporting groomers & pedophiles they are trying to normalize pedophilia
- various Marxist & socialist policies that make people poorer will reducing their liberty

And many more examples. They are totally depraved & evil.


People who disagree with you politically are not depraved & evil
Some who agree with you are

People who engage in depraved practices and who have depraved ideas are depraved. It's kinda the definition. I provide a long list of examples of Leftist depravity but technically, there are plenty of depraved people in all sorts of places. We are all sinners.
historian
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See my reply to Oso.

Also, try to respond like an adult instead of a 12 year old.
historian
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Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

No, progressives are more depraved. They are all in on a totally depraved agenda:

- mass murder of innocents (especially in the womb)
- mutilation & poisoning children, including without parents' consent or knowledge
- open borders allowing terrorist, cartels, & other murderers & rapists into the U.S. at will
- fighting tooth & nail to keep these criminals in America
- stealing elections (2020 was not the first)
- various forms of racism: DEI, BLM, CRT, antisemitism, etc
- supporting groomers & pedophiles they are trying to normalize pedophilia
- various Marxist & socialist policies that make people poorer will reducing their liberty

And many more examples. They are totally depraved & evil.

Unfortunately the Republican Party supports most of those evils, albeit in different ways. Examples include mass murder of innocents in wars of aggression, stealing elections in various ways ranging from voter suppression to insurrection, indiscriminate and illegal mass deportations, and mistreatment of the poor and working classes in ways too numerous to mention.

GOP politicians who support those evils tend to be what we call RINO's (Republicans In Name Only) meaning they act like Dems too often.

You are using terminology in nonstandard ways: it's very subjective & debatable to label US wars as "wars of aggression" and when the U.S. does go to war, we try to avoid killing innocents. The Dems are pro-Hamas & pro-Iran, groups that target civilians & even children and use them as human shields. It's not a valid comparison and nothing comparable to murdering babies in the womb, the goal the Dems' are most obsessed about apparently.

Stopping illegals from voting or other forms of fraud is not voter suppression. It's making sure that all Americans get a fair vote.

Insurrection is a specialty of the Left, not the right. J6 was a peaceful protest hijacker's by the Left. The FBI, CIA, and other agencies corrupted by the Dems had dozens of operatives there to create the chaos that ensued. Then the Dems spent the next several years covering it up.

Mass deportation of illegals is itself legal and the only effective way to counter the treasonous Biden / Harris / Mayorkas open borders policy that created the crime wave and caused much damage to American society & economy. The Left certainly had no problems when Obama deported illegals using some of the same procedures. He also added the cages that Trump 45 was blamed for. The Dems excel at projection.

The Dems are notorious gif mistreating the poor and working classes. Most government programs to help them were created by Dems and are the causes of most of the problems such people suffer from. A large reason for that is that such policies are essentially socialist in nature and socialism always fails. But Dems harm poor and working Americans in many other ways. The mass importation of illegals took jobs from Americans, caused crowding in many schools and emergency rooms, and caused many more problems that disproportionally harmed the lower classes. Bidenflation added a hidden tax onto everything and this harmed poorer people disproportionally. The Dem obsession with minimum wage increases guarantees that more teens and lower income workers will be unemployed or be forced to work less as employers try to remain in business. This is why fast food restaurants have kiosks instead of people talking our orders & why more businesses are trying to use robots & automation. The Dems are making unskilled workers unemployable. There are many more examples and the Dems & RINOs are responsible for most.
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historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

No, progressives are more depraved. They are all in on a totally depraved agenda:

- mass murder of innocents (especially in the womb)
- mutilation & poisoning children, including without parents' consent or knowledge
- open borders allowing terrorist, cartels, & other murderers & rapists into the U.S. at will
- fighting tooth & nail to keep these criminals in America
- stealing elections (2020 was not the first)
- various forms of racism: DEI, BLM, CRT, antisemitism, etc
- supporting groomers & pedophiles they are trying to normalize pedophilia
- various Marxist & socialist policies that make people poorer will reducing their liberty

And many more examples. They are totally depraved & evil.

Unfortunately the Republican Party supports most of those evils, albeit in different ways. Examples include mass murder of innocents in wars of aggression, stealing elections in various ways ranging from voter suppression to insurrection, indiscriminate and illegal mass deportations, and mistreatment of the poor and working classes in ways too numerous to mention.

GOP politicians who support those evils tend to be what we call RINO's (Republicans In Name Only) meaning they act like Dems too often.

You are using terminology in nonstandard ways: it's very subjective & debatable to label US wars as "wars of aggression" and when the U.S. does go to war, we try to avoid killing innocents. The Dems are pro-Hamas & pro-Iran, groups that target civilians & even children and use them as human shields. It's not a valid comparison and nothing comparable to murdering babies in the womb, the goal the Dems' are most obsessed about apparently.

Stopping illegals from voting or other forms of fraud is not voter suppression. It's making sure that all Americans get a fair vote.

Insurrection is a specialty of the Left, not the right. J6 was a peaceful protest hijacker's by the Left. The FBI, CIA, and other agencies corrupted by the Dems had dozens of operatives there to create the chaos that ensued. Then the Dems spent the next several years covering it up.

Mass deportation of illegals is itself legal and the only effective way to counter the treasonous Biden / Harris / Mayorkas open borders policy that created the crime wave and caused much damage to American society & economy. The Left certainly had no problems when Obama deported illegals using some of the same procedures. He also added the cages that Trump 45 was blamed for. The Dems excel at projection.

The Dems are notorious gif mistreating the poor and working classes. Most government programs to help them were created by Dems and are the causes of most of the problems such people suffer from. A large reason for that is that such policies are essentially socialist in nature and socialism always fails. But Dems harm poor and working Americans in many other ways. The mass importation of illegals took jobs from Americans, caused crowding in many schools and emergency rooms, and caused many more problems that disproportionally harmed the lower classes. Bidenflation added a hidden tax onto everything and this harmed poorer people disproportionally. The Dem obsession with minimum wage increases guarantees that more teens and lower income workers will be unemployed or be forced to work less as employers try to remain in business. This is why fast food restaurants have kiosks instead of people talking our orders & why more businesses are trying to use robots & automation. The Dems are making unskilled workers unemployable. There are many more examples and the Dems & RINOs are responsible for most.

MAGA FREAK. that is all. MAGA is crumbling before our eyes thank the lord. what a scourge on the US. Maga going the way of the Tea Party. I'm sure you Maga freaks were all about that. Meanwhile the Lizard king is spending us into oblivion...Good news is were are on the end of that Freak show called Maga
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J.R. said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

No, progressives are more depraved. They are all in on a totally depraved agenda:

- mass murder of innocents (especially in the womb)
- mutilation & poisoning children, including without parents' consent or knowledge
- open borders allowing terrorist, cartels, & other murderers & rapists into the U.S. at will
- fighting tooth & nail to keep these criminals in America
- stealing elections (2020 was not the first)
- various forms of racism: DEI, BLM, CRT, antisemitism, etc
- supporting groomers & pedophiles they are trying to normalize pedophilia
- various Marxist & socialist policies that make people poorer will reducing their liberty

And many more examples. They are totally depraved & evil.

Unfortunately the Republican Party supports most of those evils, albeit in different ways. Examples include mass murder of innocents in wars of aggression, stealing elections in various ways ranging from voter suppression to insurrection, indiscriminate and illegal mass deportations, and mistreatment of the poor and working classes in ways too numerous to mention.

GOP politicians who support those evils tend to be what we call RINO's (Republicans In Name Only) meaning they act like Dems too often.

You are using terminology in nonstandard ways: it's very subjective & debatable to label US wars as "wars of aggression" and when the U.S. does go to war, we try to avoid killing innocents. The Dems are pro-Hamas & pro-Iran, groups that target civilians & even children and use them as human shields. It's not a valid comparison and nothing comparable to murdering babies in the womb, the goal the Dems' are most obsessed about apparently.

Stopping illegals from voting or other forms of fraud is not voter suppression. It's making sure that all Americans get a fair vote.

Insurrection is a specialty of the Left, not the right. J6 was a peaceful protest hijacker's by the Left. The FBI, CIA, and other agencies corrupted by the Dems had dozens of operatives there to create the chaos that ensued. Then the Dems spent the next several years covering it up.

Mass deportation of illegals is itself legal and the only effective way to counter the treasonous Biden / Harris / Mayorkas open borders policy that created the crime wave and caused much damage to American society & economy. The Left certainly had no problems when Obama deported illegals using some of the same procedures. He also added the cages that Trump 45 was blamed for. The Dems excel at projection.

The Dems are notorious gif mistreating the poor and working classes. Most government programs to help them were created by Dems and are the causes of most of the problems such people suffer from. A large reason for that is that such policies are essentially socialist in nature and socialism always fails. But Dems harm poor and working Americans in many other ways. The mass importation of illegals took jobs from Americans, caused crowding in many schools and emergency rooms, and caused many more problems that disproportionally harmed the lower classes. Bidenflation added a hidden tax onto everything and this harmed poorer people disproportionally. The Dem obsession with minimum wage increases guarantees that more teens and lower income workers will be unemployed or be forced to work less as employers try to remain in business. This is why fast food restaurants have kiosks instead of people talking our orders & why more businesses are trying to use robots & automation. The Dems are making unskilled workers unemployable. There are many more examples and the Dems & RINOs are responsible for most.

MAGA FREAK. that is all. MAGA is crumbling before our eyes thank the lord. what a scourge on the US. Maga going the way of the Tea Party. I'm sure you Maga freaks were all about that. Meanwhile the Lizard king is spending us into oblivion...Good news is were are on the end of that Freak show called Maga


JR is about the MAGay movement.
Oldbear83
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Pretty sure the Lord has some advice for you regarding your choice of words.
J.R.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

J.R. said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

No, progressives are more depraved. They are all in on a totally depraved agenda:

- mass murder of innocents (especially in the womb)
- mutilation & poisoning children, including without parents' consent or knowledge
- open borders allowing terrorist, cartels, & other murderers & rapists into the U.S. at will
- fighting tooth & nail to keep these criminals in America
- stealing elections (2020 was not the first)
- various forms of racism: DEI, BLM, CRT, antisemitism, etc
- supporting groomers & pedophiles they are trying to normalize pedophilia
- various Marxist & socialist policies that make people poorer will reducing their liberty

And many more examples. They are totally depraved & evil.

Unfortunately the Republican Party supports most of those evils, albeit in different ways. Examples include mass murder of innocents in wars of aggression, stealing elections in various ways ranging from voter suppression to insurrection, indiscriminate and illegal mass deportations, and mistreatment of the poor and working classes in ways too numerous to mention.

GOP politicians who support those evils tend to be what we call RINO's (Republicans In Name Only) meaning they act like Dems too often.

You are using terminology in nonstandard ways: it's very subjective & debatable to label US wars as "wars of aggression" and when the U.S. does go to war, we try to avoid killing innocents. The Dems are pro-Hamas & pro-Iran, groups that target civilians & even children and use them as human shields. It's not a valid comparison and nothing comparable to murdering babies in the womb, the goal the Dems' are most obsessed about apparently.

Stopping illegals from voting or other forms of fraud is not voter suppression. It's making sure that all Americans get a fair vote.

Insurrection is a specialty of the Left, not the right. J6 was a peaceful protest hijacker's by the Left. The FBI, CIA, and other agencies corrupted by the Dems had dozens of operatives there to create the chaos that ensued. Then the Dems spent the next several years covering it up.

Mass deportation of illegals is itself legal and the only effective way to counter the treasonous Biden / Harris / Mayorkas open borders policy that created the crime wave and caused much damage to American society & economy. The Left certainly had no problems when Obama deported illegals using some of the same procedures. He also added the cages that Trump 45 was blamed for. The Dems excel at projection.

The Dems are notorious gif mistreating the poor and working classes. Most government programs to help them were created by Dems and are the causes of most of the problems such people suffer from. A large reason for that is that such policies are essentially socialist in nature and socialism always fails. But Dems harm poor and working Americans in many other ways. The mass importation of illegals took jobs from Americans, caused crowding in many schools and emergency rooms, and caused many more problems that disproportionally harmed the lower classes. Bidenflation added a hidden tax onto everything and this harmed poorer people disproportionally. The Dem obsession with minimum wage increases guarantees that more teens and lower income workers will be unemployed or be forced to work less as employers try to remain in business. This is why fast food restaurants have kiosks instead of people talking our orders & why more businesses are trying to use robots & automation. The Dems are making unskilled workers unemployable. There are many more examples and the Dems & RINOs are responsible for most.

MAGA FREAK. that is all. MAGA is crumbling before our eyes thank the lord. what a scourge on the US. Maga going the way of the Tea Party. I'm sure you Maga freaks were all about that. Meanwhile the Lizard king is spending us into oblivion...Good news is were are on the end of that Freak show called Maga


JR is about the MAGay movement.

coming along great! Ah, another Maga redneck! Gay jokes were so 80s
Redbrickbear
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J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

J.R. said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

No, progressives are more depraved. They are all in on a totally depraved agenda:

- mass murder of innocents (especially in the womb)
- mutilation & poisoning children, including without parents' consent or knowledge
- open borders allowing terrorist, cartels, & other murderers & rapists into the U.S. at will
- fighting tooth & nail to keep these criminals in America
- stealing elections (2020 was not the first)
- various forms of racism: DEI, BLM, CRT, antisemitism, etc
- supporting groomers & pedophiles they are trying to normalize pedophilia
- various Marxist & socialist policies that make people poorer will reducing their liberty

And many more examples. They are totally depraved & evil.

Unfortunately the Republican Party supports most of those evils, albeit in different ways. Examples include mass murder of innocents in wars of aggression, stealing elections in various ways ranging from voter suppression to insurrection, indiscriminate and illegal mass deportations, and mistreatment of the poor and working classes in ways too numerous to mention.

GOP politicians who support those evils tend to be what we call RINO's (Republicans In Name Only) meaning they act like Dems too often.

You are using terminology in nonstandard ways: it's very subjective & debatable to label US wars as "wars of aggression" and when the U.S. does go to war, we try to avoid killing innocents. The Dems are pro-Hamas & pro-Iran, groups that target civilians & even children and use them as human shields. It's not a valid comparison and nothing comparable to murdering babies in the womb, the goal the Dems' are most obsessed about apparently.

Stopping illegals from voting or other forms of fraud is not voter suppression. It's making sure that all Americans get a fair vote.

Insurrection is a specialty of the Left, not the right. J6 was a peaceful protest hijacker's by the Left. The FBI, CIA, and other agencies corrupted by the Dems had dozens of operatives there to create the chaos that ensued. Then the Dems spent the next several years covering it up.

Mass deportation of illegals is itself legal and the only effective way to counter the treasonous Biden / Harris / Mayorkas open borders policy that created the crime wave and caused much damage to American society & economy. The Left certainly had no problems when Obama deported illegals using some of the same procedures. He also added the cages that Trump 45 was blamed for. The Dems excel at projection.

The Dems are notorious gif mistreating the poor and working classes. Most government programs to help them were created by Dems and are the causes of most of the problems such people suffer from. A large reason for that is that such policies are essentially socialist in nature and socialism always fails. But Dems harm poor and working Americans in many other ways. The mass importation of illegals took jobs from Americans, caused crowding in many schools and emergency rooms, and caused many more problems that disproportionally harmed the lower classes. Bidenflation added a hidden tax onto everything and this harmed poorer people disproportionally. The Dem obsession with minimum wage increases guarantees that more teens and lower income workers will be unemployed or be forced to work less as employers try to remain in business. This is why fast food restaurants have kiosks instead of people talking our orders & why more businesses are trying to use robots & automation. The Dems are making unskilled workers unemployable. There are many more examples and the Dems & RINOs are responsible for most.

MAGA FREAK. that is all. MAGA is crumbling before our eyes thank the lord. what a scourge on the US. Maga going the way of the Tea Party. I'm sure you Maga freaks were all about that. Meanwhile the Lizard king is spending us into oblivion...Good news is were are on the end of that Freak show called Maga


JR is about the MAGay movement.

coming along great! Ah, another Maga redneck!


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