Was watching a documentary on the Russian Revolution and there were a number of similarities present in what conservatives or anyone deemed not with us will experience at the hands of the New Bolsheviks in Minneapolis.

The events leading up to the Spanish Civil War seem very similar to what is happening in the United States.

Though I doubt most conservatives will fight to protect themselves and our country's institutions.

Excellent response to Leftists behind the insanity in Minneapolis and elsewhere:

To my leftist friends:

I do not care that a leftist agitator got himself killed because he decided to arm himself with a gun and venture out to resist ICE, nor the other one who sped her car at an ICE agent while fleeing arrest, nor do I care about the little kid who was…

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) January 25, 2026

Trump To Convert Entire City Of Minneapolis Into Insane Asylum https://t.co/1pV5a4u745 pic.twitter.com/HbRMULcDmd

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) January 25, 2026

FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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Excellent response to Leftists behind the insanity in Minneapolis and elsewhere:

To my leftist friends:

I do not care that a leftist agitator got himself killed because he decided to arm himself with a gun and venture out to resist ICE, nor the other one who sped her car at an ICE agent while fleeing arrest, nor do I care about the little kid who was…

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) January 25, 2026

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You guys better care, because whether you like it or not these people are voters. Realpolitik works both ways and I am shocked at how naive you guys are over this and fail to see it. All of a sudden you guys are all Idealpolitik and more interested in what is "right".

The GOP is going to lose power if they don't change the narrative. Between Greenland and now MN?

I think Trump is starting to get it, by sending Homan and getting Bovino OUT OF THERE. He comes off as a thug.

Midterms are tough enough for an incumbent, turning positives into negatives is counterproductive. Immigration and Border were positives for the GOP, not anymore. Noem and Bovino have made a disaster of it.

Getting caught up in this Bolshevik stuff is not helping. MN has always been liberal, it was settled by liberal Scandinavians. It is part of the culture, it is not going Bolshevik, it has been this way since the mid-1800s.

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These are reasonable points. But I am curious what you would do in Minn. Just allow the lawbreakers to win? Kind of a tough spot for the admin. On the one hand, their actions have come across as heavy handed. On the other, Minn is a **** show, and the birthplace of the BLM riots, which Biden did nothing to stop.

Do we allow that kind of lawlessness to go on unchecked?

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FLBear5630 said:

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Getting caught up in this Bolshevik stuff is not helping. MN has always been liberal, it was settled by liberal Scandinavians. It is part of the culture, it is not going Bolshevik, it has been this way since the mid-1800s.

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Show us where they were engaging in all this organized unlawful behavior in the mid-1800s? Were they always engaging in Somalia child care fraud? Were they always going around demanding people show them papers and threatening to kill them if they didn't leave town becoming a de facto ICE unit of their own? Was Minneapolis always a lawless city where the Mayor had the MPD deliberately avoid policing for political advantage?

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It goes back at least as far as 1894 and the Great Northern Railroad Strike. Geez, Bloody Friday in the 1930's was big in the National Labor Relations Act. Minneapolis is one of the most liberal and protest likely place in the US. They take pride in it. Wife is from Wisconsin and extended family lives there.

The fraud stuff is different, you are mixing out and out illegal activity with a history of protesting and not wanting the Feds telling them what to do.

I due have genuine concerns around the mental health of much of the country as it is most obviously displayed by the lunatics in Minneapolis. Authoritarian regimes from National Socialist Germany, Stalinist Russia, Mao's China, to Latin American juntas always relied on armed militias intimidating and bullying to capture and retain power. This is what we are seeing in real time in Minnesota.

What underscores this is all of the ignorant disinformation that spread so much hate and division.

Another common technique is labeling and dehumanizing "the other" and blaming everything on them. We see that even on these boards ... when a poster cannot refute and argument, the reversion is to "your MAGA" and thus not worthy or response. This board is mild compared to some of the vitriolic hate in other places online. Imagine breaking family relationships and have mental health problems over whether or not to deport child molesters. Many of these folks mix lack of reason with hatred and violence that lead to a dark place.

Mothra said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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Excellent response to Leftists behind the insanity in Minneapolis and elsewhere:

To my leftist friends:

I do not care that a leftist agitator got himself killed because he decided to arm himself with a gun and venture out to resist ICE, nor the other one who sped her car at an ICE agent while fleeing arrest, nor do I care about the little kid who was…

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) January 25, 2026

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You guys better care, because whether you like it or not these people are voters. Realpolitik works both ways and I am shocked at how naive you guys are over this and fail to see it. All of a sudden you guys are all Idealpolitik and more interested in what is "right".

The GOP is going to lose power if they don't change the narrative. Between Greenland and now MN?

I think Trump is starting to get it, by sending Homan and getting Bovino OUT OF THERE. He comes off as a thug.

Midterms are tough enough for an incumbent, turning positives into negatives is counterproductive. Immigration and Border were positives for the GOP, not anymore. Noem and Bovino have made a disaster of it.

Getting caught up in this Bolshevik stuff is not helping. MN has always been liberal, it was settled by liberal Scandinavians. It is part of the culture, it is not going Bolshevik, it has been this way since the mid-1800s.

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These are reasonable points. But I am curious what you would do in Minn. Just allow the lawbreakers to win? Kind of a tough spot for the admin. On the one hand, their actions have come across as heavy handed. On the other, Minn is a **** show, and the birthplace of the BLM riots, which Biden did nothing to stop.

Do we allow that kind of lawlessness to go on unchecked?

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As I said, you are mixing illegal activites, with protesting the Federal Government over rights.

I don't think ANYONE in MN will say that Somali fraud should be allowed to continue and they shouldn't be investigated and prosecuted.

That is NOT the same as the ICE protests.

McCarthy was right about almost everything

The only thing he was wrong about was that he understated the problem https://t.co/C77pDIobTb pic.twitter.com/Mag58o6uFR

— The American Tribune (@TAmTrib) January 27, 2026

Communists must be dealt with forcefully. Arrest the mayor and the lt gov then arrest anyone who is imeding law enforcement in the streets.

As an aside and example of what smart people are up against ...

Yesterday(?) a idiot picked up a flash grenade in Minneapolis and blew off parts of her fingers ... today on social media I saw a post from a (hopefully fake) news site claiming ICE shot off her fingers ... you would not believe the people that actually believed it.

FLBear5630 said:

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Mothra said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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Excellent response to Leftists behind the insanity in Minneapolis and elsewhere:

To my leftist friends:

I do not care that a leftist agitator got himself killed because he decided to arm himself with a gun and venture out to resist ICE, nor the other one who sped her car at an ICE agent while fleeing arrest, nor do I care about the little kid who was…

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) January 25, 2026

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You guys better care, because whether you like it or not these people are voters. Realpolitik works both ways and I am shocked at how naive you guys are over this and fail to see it. All of a sudden you guys are all Idealpolitik and more interested in what is "right".

The GOP is going to lose power if they don't change the narrative. Between Greenland and now MN?

I think Trump is starting to get it, by sending Homan and getting Bovino OUT OF THERE. He comes off as a thug.

Midterms are tough enough for an incumbent, turning positives into negatives is counterproductive. Immigration and Border were positives for the GOP, not anymore. Noem and Bovino have made a disaster of it.

Getting caught up in this Bolshevik stuff is not helping. MN has always been liberal, it was settled by liberal Scandinavians. It is part of the culture, it is not going Bolshevik, it has been this way since the mid-1800s.

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These are reasonable points. But I am curious what you would do in Minn. Just allow the lawbreakers to win? Kind of a tough spot for the admin. On the one hand, their actions have come across as heavy handed. On the other, Minn is a **** show, and the birthplace of the BLM riots, which Biden did nothing to stop.

Do we allow that kind of lawlessness to go on unchecked?

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As I said, you are mixing illegal activites, with protesting the Federal Government over rights.

I don't think ANYONE in MN will say that Somali fraud should be allowed to continue and they shouldn't be investigated and prosecuted.

That is NOT the same as the ICE protests.

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When you are obstructing a federal officer's job duties and responsibilities, blocking traffic, etc., those are illegal activities. When you engage in a non-peaceful protest, those are illegal activities. When you are putting hands on officers, those are illegal activities.

There are such things as peaceful protests. But doing the foregoing things is not a peaceful protest or a protected activity. Kind of like the BLM riots.

So, again, the question is, does ICE retreat and do nothing when confronted with such obstruction of their job duties and responsibilities?

FLBear5630 said:

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Getting caught up in this Bolshevik stuff is not helping. MN has always been liberal, it was settled by liberal Scandinavians. It is part of the culture, it is not going Bolshevik, it has been this way since the mid-1800s.

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Show us where they were engaging in all this organized unlawful behavior in the mid-1800s? Were they always engaging in Somalia child care fraud? Were they always going around demanding people show them papers and threatening to kill them if they didn't leave town becoming a de facto ICE unit of their own? Was Minneapolis always a lawless city where the Mayor had the MPD deliberately avoid policing for political advantage?

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It goes back at least as far as 1894 and the Great Northern Railroad Strike. Geez, Bloody Friday in the 1930's was big in the National Labor Relations Act. Minneapolis is one of the most liberal and protest likely place in the US. They take pride in it. Wife is from Wisconsin and extended family lives there.

The fraud stuff is different, you are mixing out and out illegal activity with a history of protesting and not wanting the Feds telling them what to do.

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Yes, the fraud stuff shows this is different. The police not policing shows this is different. The fact that protesters/mob are breaking the law shows this is different. The signal chat shows this was organized lawlessness supported by high ranking government officials. All of that sounds very much like the Russian Revolution and the behavior the Bolsheviks engaged in. Historically, the Scandinavians were capitalistic and went Socialist Democrat and rejected Communism as too extreme. But these folks are tilting towards Communism and rejecting Socialist democracy and/or classic liberalism. They claim they are fighting Nazis but are behaving as Communists.

The breaking into church service showed this was something different as well. Also behavior of Communists. In Czechoslovakia, the Christians were under Nazi rule and did encounter some oppression but when the Communists took over, the Christians were murdered, tortured, oppressed and put into exile. Poland, Romania and the Soviet Union Christians can tell a similar tale also.

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Getting caught up in this Bolshevik stuff is not helping. MN has always been liberal, it was settled by liberal Scandinavians. It is part of the culture, it is not going Bolshevik, it has been this way since the mid-1800s.

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Show us where they were engaging in all this organized unlawful behavior in the mid-1800s? Were they always engaging in Somalia child care fraud? Were they always going around demanding people show them papers and threatening to kill them if they didn't leave town becoming a de facto ICE unit of their own? Was Minneapolis always a lawless city where the Mayor had the MPD deliberately avoid policing for political advantage?

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It goes back at least as far as 1894 and the Great Northern Railroad Strike. Geez, Bloody Friday in the 1930's was big in the National Labor Relations Act. Minneapolis is one of the most liberal and protest likely place in the US. They take pride in it. Wife is from Wisconsin and extended family lives there.

The fraud stuff is different, you are mixing out and out illegal activity with a history of protesting and not wanting the Feds telling them what to do.

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Yes, the fraud stuff shows this is different. The police not policing shows this is different. The fact that protesters/mob are breaking the law shows this is different. The signal chat shows this was organized lawlessness supported by high ranking government officials. All of that sounds very much like the Russian Revolution and the behavior the Bolsheviks engaged in. Historically, the Scandinavians were capitalistic and went Socialist Democrat and rejected Communism as too extreme. But these folks are tilting towards Communism and rejecting Socialist democracy and/or classic liberalism. They claim they are fighting Nazis but are behaving as Communists.

The breaking into church service showed this was something different as well. Also behavior of Communists. In Czechoslovakia, the Christians were under Nazi rule and did encounter some oppression but when the Communists took over, the Christians were murdered, tortured, oppressed and put into exile. Poland, Romania and the Soviet Union Christians can tell a similar tale also.

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Yep. Authoritarian regimes frequently use lynch mobs to enforce their will and gain power.

FLBear5630 said:

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Excellent response to Leftists behind the insanity in Minneapolis and elsewhere:

To my leftist friends:

I do not care that a leftist agitator got himself killed because he decided to arm himself with a gun and venture out to resist ICE, nor the other one who sped her car at an ICE agent while fleeing arrest, nor do I care about the little kid who was…

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) January 25, 2026

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You guys better care, because whether you like it or not these people are voters. Realpolitik works both ways and I am shocked at how naive you guys are over this and fail to see it. All of a sudden you guys are all Idealpolitik and more interested in what is "right".

The GOP is going to lose power if they don't change the narrative. Between Greenland and now MN?

I think Trump is starting to get it, by sending Homan and getting Bovino OUT OF THERE. He comes off as a thug.

Midterms are tough enough for an incumbent, turning positives into negatives is counterproductive. Immigration and Border were positives for the GOP, not anymore. Noem and Bovino have made a disaster of it.

Getting caught up in this Bolshevik stuff is not helping. MN has always been liberal, it was settled by liberal Scandinavians. It is part of the culture, it is not going Bolshevik, it has been this way since the mid-1800s.

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The thugs are the people starting the riots, attacking federal authorities trying to remove rapists & murderers off the streets, the fascist politicians inciting the violence, etc.

Jimmy Kimmel once again demonstrating that he isn’t even pretending to host a comedy show, it’s just yet another MSNBC therapy session where he cries more frequently than he tells jokes
pic.twitter.com/948vSdGmDn

— Ian Miller (@ianmSC) January 27, 2026

fellow Bolshevik playing his role in escalating the revolution.

historian said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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Excellent response to Leftists behind the insanity in Minneapolis and elsewhere:

To my leftist friends:

I do not care that a leftist agitator got himself killed because he decided to arm himself with a gun and venture out to resist ICE, nor the other one who sped her car at an ICE agent while fleeing arrest, nor do I care about the little kid who was…

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) January 25, 2026

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You guys better care, because whether you like it or not these people are voters. Realpolitik works both ways and I am shocked at how naive you guys are over this and fail to see it. All of a sudden you guys are all Idealpolitik and more interested in what is "right".

The GOP is going to lose power if they don't change the narrative. Between Greenland and now MN?

I think Trump is starting to get it, by sending Homan and getting Bovino OUT OF THERE. He comes off as a thug.

Midterms are tough enough for an incumbent, turning positives into negatives is counterproductive. Immigration and Border were positives for the GOP, not anymore. Noem and Bovino have made a disaster of it.

Getting caught up in this Bolshevik stuff is not helping. MN has always been liberal, it was settled by liberal Scandinavians. It is part of the culture, it is not going Bolshevik, it has been this way since the mid-1800s.

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The thugs are the people starting the riots, attacking federal authorities trying to remove rapists & murderers off the streets, the fascist politicians inciting the violence, etc.

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You know ICE shooting people is not just in MN. A pretty good report on the Agency you are defending.

How Many People ICE Has Shot, Killed During Trump Immigration Enforcement | The Marshall Project

FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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Excellent response to Leftists behind the insanity in Minneapolis and elsewhere:

To my leftist friends:

I do not care that a leftist agitator got himself killed because he decided to arm himself with a gun and venture out to resist ICE, nor the other one who sped her car at an ICE agent while fleeing arrest, nor do I care about the little kid who was…

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) January 25, 2026

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You guys better care, because whether you like it or not these people are voters. Realpolitik works both ways and I am shocked at how naive you guys are over this and fail to see it. All of a sudden you guys are all Idealpolitik and more interested in what is "right".

The GOP is going to lose power if they don't change the narrative. Between Greenland and now MN?

I think Trump is starting to get it, by sending Homan and getting Bovino OUT OF THERE. He comes off as a thug.

Midterms are tough enough for an incumbent, turning positives into negatives is counterproductive. Immigration and Border were positives for the GOP, not anymore. Noem and Bovino have made a disaster of it.

Getting caught up in this Bolshevik stuff is not helping. MN has always been liberal, it was settled by liberal Scandinavians. It is part of the culture, it is not going Bolshevik, it has been this way since the mid-1800s.

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The thugs are the people starting the riots, attacking federal authorities trying to remove rapists & murderers off the streets, the fascist politicians inciting the violence, etc.

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You know ICE shooting people is not just in MN. A pretty good report on the Agency you are defending.

How Many People ICE Has Shot, Killed During Trump Immigration Enforcement | The Marshall Project

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I didn't see a hard number in the article and just a reference to a few other incidents. Looking elsewhere, it looks like the number is at least 30 so I am guessing the true number is under 100 and probably under 50.

Then, you have to ask how many of those shoots were justified. I am aware of a few examples where the agents were attacked or had a weapon pulled on them forcing the shooting. However, whatever number we agree to, we still need to weight it against the following:

"In President Trump's first year back in office, nearly 3 million illegal aliens have left the U.S. because of the Trump administration's crackdown on illegal immigration, including an estimated 2.2 million self-deportations and more than 675,000 deportations."

"In the last year, fentanyl trafficking at the southern border has also been cut by more than half compared to the same period in 2024," said Secretary Kristi Noem. "The U.S. Coast Guard alone seized enough cocaine to kill more than 177 million Americans."

"Meanwhile, we have saved taxpayers more than $13.2 billion here at DHS. Countless lives have been saved, communities have been strengthened, and the American people have been put first again."

Source: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/01/20/dhs-sets-stage-another-historic-record-breaking-year-under-president-trump

ICE shoots people who are resisting arrest and attacking them. In other words, self defense. If they were not wearing the uniforms of law enforcement, the Good & Pretti deaths would be open shut cases and uncontroversial. There isn't even the racial angle to give fascists an excuse to invent a grievance. There would be little doubt except maybe among the gun Nazis who want criminals to be the only people armed.

I defend the victims of attack who defended themselves, a right every American citizen has.

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I due have genuine concerns around the mental health of much of the country as it is most obviously displayed by the lunatics in Minneapolis. Authoritarian regimes from National Socialist Germany, Stalinist Russia, Mao's China, to Latin American juntas always relied on armed militias intimidating and bullying to capture and retain power. This is what we are seeing in real time in Minnesota.

What underscores this is all of the ignorant disinformation that spread so much hate and division.

Another common technique is labeling and dehumanizing "the other" and blaming everything on them. We see that even on these boards ... when a poster cannot refute and argument, the reversion is to "your MAGA" and thus not worthy or response. This board is mild compared to some of the vitriolic hate in other places online. Imagine breaking family relationships and have mental health problems over whether or not to deport child molesters. Many of these folks mix lack of reason with hatred and violence that lead to a dark place.

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I share your concerns and am additionally worried about the growing impact of the multi decade deliberate dumbing down of the masses and the indoctrination by our leftist dominated education system. Voters in the country's largest city recently elected an out and out communist mayor. If the majority of NYC voters were even somewhat properly informed about the history of communism, instead of blissfully nodding along when Mamdani and his henchmen talk about "collectivism" and "the evils of private property ownership" they would be utterly terrified. It's truly scary, especially given the possibility of this insanity spreading. I hope and pray the '24 election and the things the Trump Administration is working its tail off to change ends up being a lot more than just a 4 year postponement of the ultimate takeover over by the totalitarian globalists.