Don Lemon Arrested for Church Riot

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Forest Bueller III said:

KaiBear said:

Dumb move.

No way Lemon gets convicted.

Expect the charges will summarily dropped .



Lemon will beat this …

.


Probably

But not because it's justice

He is dead factually guilty as charged

But because the judiciary (and lawyers in general) lean heavily to the Left politically

It's a liberal dominated profession…that gets more ideologically liberal the higher you rise into the professional associations of Judiciary




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cowboycwr said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:




No surprise.

Stupid arrest to begin with.




Why is it a stupid arrest? How far must a journalist go before breaking a law is not covered by the first amendment?

What makes someone a "journalist" is also another valid question with all these "independent journalists " who are nothing more than people with podcasts and multiple social media pages.

Because like him or not....Lemon IS a journalist.

Not remotely a close call.

He did not steal anything or kill anyone.

So Lemon can claim whatever he wants.

Charges will be dropped very soon.
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Redbrickbear said:

Forest Bueller III said:

KaiBear said:

Dumb move.

No way Lemon gets convicted.

Expect the charges will summarily dropped .



Lemon will beat this …

.


Probably

But not because it's justice

He is dead factually guilty as charged

But because the judiciary (and lawyers in general) lean heavily to the Left politically



I agree.

But, some people are above the law.

Obama's, Clinton"s etc.. etc.

Nothing will happen to Lemon.

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KaiBear said:

cowboycwr said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:




No surprise.

Stupid arrest to begin with.




Why is it a stupid arrest? How far must a journalist go before breaking a law is not covered by the first amendment?

What makes someone a "journalist" is also another valid question with all these "independent journalists " who are nothing more than people with podcasts and multiple social media pages.

Because like him or not....Lemon IS a journalist.

Not remotely a close call.

He did not steal anything or kill anyone.

So Lemon can claim whatever he wants.

Charges will be dropped very soon.


If this has been Tucker Carlson and a mob storming a black church or a Jewish synagogue…Tucker would be looking a 30+ years in Federal prison.

And it would absolutely be convicted.

It's almost like there is a massive double standard and that hate crime laws are only enforced on some and not others


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KaiBear said:

cowboycwr said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:




No surprise.

Stupid arrest to begin with.




Why is it a stupid arrest? How far must a journalist go before breaking a law is not covered by the first amendment?

What makes someone a "journalist" is also another valid question with all these "independent journalists " who are nothing more than people with podcasts and multiple social media pages.

Because like him or not....Lemon IS a journalist.

Not remotely a close call.

He did not steal anything or kill anyone.

So Lemon can claim whatever he wants.

Charges will be dropped very soon.


So the ONLY crimes in your eyes that a journalist cannot commit are theft or murder? All others are ok as long as they claim to be a journalist. Even if not employed by a media company?

Got it.
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KaiBear said:

cowboycwr said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:




No surprise.

Stupid arrest to begin with.




Why is it a stupid arrest? How far must a journalist go before breaking a law is not covered by the first amendment?

What makes someone a "journalist" is also another valid question with all these "independent journalists " who are nothing more than people with podcasts and multiple social media pages.

Because like him or not....Lemon IS a journalist.

Not remotely a close call.

He did not steal anything or kill anyone.

So Lemon can claim whatever he wants.

Charges will be dropped very soon.

What qualifies him as a journalist?
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KaiBear
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Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

cowboycwr said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:




No surprise.

Stupid arrest to begin with.




Why is it a stupid arrest? How far must a journalist go before breaking a law is not covered by the first amendment?

What makes someone a "journalist" is also another valid question with all these "independent journalists " who are nothing more than people with podcasts and multiple social media pages.

Because like him or not....Lemon IS a journalist.

Not remotely a close call.

He did not steal anything or kill anyone.

So Lemon can claim whatever he wants.

Charges will be dropped very soon.


If this has been Tucker Carlson and a mob storming a black church or a Jewish synagogue…Tucker would be looking a 30+ years in Federal prison.

And it would absolutely be convicted.

It's almost like there is a massive double standard and that hate crime laws are only enforced on some and not others





Maybe so.

But life has never been fair.

And right now black gay men are granted an extreme amount of leeway.
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Porteroso
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cowboycwr said:

Porteroso said:

TechDawgMc said:

Porteroso said:

Was he on the job or not? If he was, arresting journalist is peak authoritarian. No need to hedge here, we have lost our way if he was working as a journalist. Clear violation of the Constitution.

Whiterock will be around soon to tell us how shredding the Constitution to imbue Trump with more and more power is "progress."

You're asking if he was "on the job" when he led a group of people into a church and disrupted a worship service?

That's pretty clearly not constitutionally protected press work.

Doesn't even matter that it's a church. Would be a problem if they'd invaded a Five Guys. You can't trespass on private property to disrupt someone else's work.

Journalists go to church and Five Guys all the time. Has nothing to do with anything. The only thing that matters is whether he incited a riot in a church or not. Just covering it as a journalist is protected. If he planned it and incited a riot, that is not protected.


So in your opinion a journalist covering a crime has the protection of the first amendment no matter what?

So they can film themselves robbing a bank but claim they are on the job as a journalist and be protected because they live streamed it or recorded it for their podcast?



Read again! They can cover a bank robbery. They cannot rob a bank. Pretty simple! Read then comprehend!
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cowboycwr said:

Porteroso said:

cowboycwr said:

Porteroso said:

Wangchung said:

No, "journalists" do not have the freedom to disrupt church services while they make rage bait content for their podcasts.

What? Was he covering the thing, or rioting in a church? The ridiculousness of all these "protests" is too much for me to constantly follow. I really don't know.


Interviewing the pastor of a church service that is in the process of being disrupted by others makes him part of the disruption.



That's a nope!


Clearly it is a yes as he has been arrested.

Being arrested means he is guilty? Goodness, we have much to learn.
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Porteroso said:

cowboycwr said:

Porteroso said:

TechDawgMc said:

Porteroso said:

Was he on the job or not? If he was, arresting journalist is peak authoritarian. No need to hedge here, we have lost our way if he was working as a journalist. Clear violation of the Constitution.

Whiterock will be around soon to tell us how shredding the Constitution to imbue Trump with more and more power is "progress."

You're asking if he was "on the job" when he led a group of people into a church and disrupted a worship service?

That's pretty clearly not constitutionally protected press work.

Doesn't even matter that it's a church. Would be a problem if they'd invaded a Five Guys. You can't trespass on private property to disrupt someone else's work.

Journalists go to church and Five Guys all the time. Has nothing to do with anything. The only thing that matters is whether he incited a riot in a church or not. Just covering it as a journalist is protected. If he planned it and incited a riot, that is not protected.


So in your opinion a journalist covering a crime has the protection of the first amendment no matter what?

So they can film themselves robbing a bank but claim they are on the job as a journalist and be protected because they live streamed it or recorded it for their podcast?



Read again! They can cover a bank robbery. They cannot rob a bank. Pretty simple! Read then comprehend!
Can they help set up a bank robbery and look out for police using their cell phone to catch all the footage and still be just a journalist covering the robbery?
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

Porteroso
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Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

cowboycwr said:

Porteroso said:

TechDawgMc said:

Porteroso said:

Was he on the job or not? If he was, arresting journalist is peak authoritarian. No need to hedge here, we have lost our way if he was working as a journalist. Clear violation of the Constitution.

Whiterock will be around soon to tell us how shredding the Constitution to imbue Trump with more and more power is "progress."

You're asking if he was "on the job" when he led a group of people into a church and disrupted a worship service?

That's pretty clearly not constitutionally protected press work.

Doesn't even matter that it's a church. Would be a problem if they'd invaded a Five Guys. You can't trespass on private property to disrupt someone else's work.

Journalists go to church and Five Guys all the time. Has nothing to do with anything. The only thing that matters is whether he incited a riot in a church or not. Just covering it as a journalist is protected. If he planned it and incited a riot, that is not protected.


So in your opinion a journalist covering a crime has the protection of the first amendment no matter what?

So they can film themselves robbing a bank but claim they are on the job as a journalist and be protected because they live streamed it or recorded it for their podcast?



Read again! They can cover a bank robbery. They cannot rob a bank. Pretty simple! Read then comprehend!
Can they help set up a bank robbery and look out for police using their cell phone to catch all the footage and still be just a journalist covering the robbery?

Helping rob the bank is robbing the bank! Simple! Not protected!
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Porteroso said:

Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

cowboycwr said:

Porteroso said:

TechDawgMc said:

Porteroso said:

Was he on the job or not? If he was, arresting journalist is peak authoritarian. No need to hedge here, we have lost our way if he was working as a journalist. Clear violation of the Constitution.

Whiterock will be around soon to tell us how shredding the Constitution to imbue Trump with more and more power is "progress."

You're asking if he was "on the job" when he led a group of people into a church and disrupted a worship service?

That's pretty clearly not constitutionally protected press work.

Doesn't even matter that it's a church. Would be a problem if they'd invaded a Five Guys. You can't trespass on private property to disrupt someone else's work.

Journalists go to church and Five Guys all the time. Has nothing to do with anything. The only thing that matters is whether he incited a riot in a church or not. Just covering it as a journalist is protected. If he planned it and incited a riot, that is not protected.


So in your opinion a journalist covering a crime has the protection of the first amendment no matter what?

So they can film themselves robbing a bank but claim they are on the job as a journalist and be protected because they live streamed it or recorded it for their podcast?



Read again! They can cover a bank robbery. They cannot rob a bank. Pretty simple! Read then comprehend!
Can they help set up a bank robbery and look out for police using their cell phone to catch all the footage and still be just a journalist covering the robbery?

Helping rob the bank is robbing the bank! Simple! Not protected!
But even if they just helped plan it and only went along to document?
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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BearFan33 said:

I think Don will escape serving any time. He has the resources to put up a good fight and I expect a gofund me account will help him. The others that invaded the church may be in serious trouble.

Whoever though up the idea that invading and disrupting a church service so they could virtue signal was really stupid.


My understanding is that they have not been able to take action against the others due to not being able to find a judge to sign off on the prosecutions. Has that changed?
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KaiBear said:

cowboycwr said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:




No surprise.

Stupid arrest to begin with.




Why is it a stupid arrest? How far must a journalist go before breaking a law is not covered by the first amendment?

What makes someone a "journalist" is also another valid question with all these "independent journalists " who are nothing more than people with podcasts and multiple social media pages.

Because like him or not....Lemon IS a journalist.

Not remotely a close call.

He did not steal anything or kill anyone.

So Lemon can claim whatever he wants.

Charges will be dropped very soon.

Define a journalist. Seriously - what is the definition of a journalist today?
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Redbrickbear said:



Yep. Being a hypocrite is a feature not a bug of being a radical leftists.

Not to mention Biden had the FBI arrest James O'Keefe to retrieve Ashley Biden's diary.
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Realitybites said:

BearFan33 said:

I think Don will escape serving any time. He has the resources to put up a good fight and I expect a gofund me account will help him. The others that invaded the church may be in serious trouble.

Whoever though up the idea that invading and disrupting a church service so they could virtue signal was really stupid.


My understanding is that they have not been able to take action against the others due to not being able to find a judge to sign off on the prosecutions. Has that changed?


I think the DOJ is taking the issue to a grand jury since the Judges are running cover for the activists



CBS reported yesterday that a Grand Jury has indicted Lemon

[A source familiar with the matter said a grand jury was empaneled Thursday. The FBI and Homeland Security Investigations, a law enforcement agency within the Department of Homeland Security, were involved in the arrest, sources said.

Lemon appeared in federal court in L.A. on Friday afternoon, where he was released on his own recognizance without posting bond.

According to court documents, Lemon and eight co-defendants were all indicted on one count each of conspiracy against religious freedom at a place of worship and injuring, intimidating and interfering with the exercise of the right of religious freedom at a place of worship.

He did not enter a plea on Friday. His next hearing is scheduled for Feb. 9 in federal court in Minneapolis. ]
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Per the "bank robbery" analogy, what Lemon did was the same as yucking it up with the robbers beforehand while serving them coffee & donuts (knowing full well what's about to happen), then follow them inside and aggressively corner/distract the bank president, asking him "gotcha questions" like how can his bank enjoy "obscene profits" and not expect to get robbed - as the robbery is happening.

And then claim it's all cool because he's just a "journalist" covering a story.
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Redbrickbear said:



Perfect example of why Lemon is never going to see any jail time.

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KaiBear said:

Redbrickbear said:



Perfect example of why Lemon is never going to see any jail time.



You keep ignoring the question to define what is a journalist?

What is the definition?
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Redbrickbear said:

boognish_bear said:

KaiBear said:

4th and Inches said:

KaiBear said:

Dumb move.

No way Lemon gets convicted.

Expect the charges will summarily dropped .

why? There is plenty of evidence he did it. Being a journo doesnt give you special exemption to other laws

He may only get probation or fined but he should he held accountable.

If i was the judge, i would make him do community service signed off by the church pastor


Lemon is very happy today

His career was dead.

Now he has been provided with millions worth of free publicity and will be the darling of every leftist talk show.




Yep...he's got to be loving it







And if they're propagandists posing as journalists? It happens on all sides of any issue.
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KaiBear said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

cowboycwr said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:




No surprise.

Stupid arrest to begin with.




Why is it a stupid arrest? How far must a journalist go before breaking a law is not covered by the first amendment?

What makes someone a "journalist" is also another valid question with all these "independent journalists " who are nothing more than people with podcasts and multiple social media pages.

Because like him or not....Lemon IS a journalist.

Not remotely a close call.

He did not steal anything or kill anyone.

So Lemon can claim whatever he wants.

Charges will be dropped very soon.


If this has been Tucker Carlson and a mob storming a black church or a Jewish synagogue…Tucker would be looking a 30+ years in Federal prison.

And it would absolutely be convicted.

It's almost like there is a massive double standard and that hate crime laws are only enforced on some and not others





Maybe so.

But life has never been fair.

And right now black gay men are granted an extreme amount of leeway.



Alot of people on this board have a high level of trust in "due process" but with double standards/leeway/bribes to judges, why do they have that level of trust?
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ScottS said:

KaiBear said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

cowboycwr said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:




No surprise.

Stupid arrest to begin with.




Why is it a stupid arrest? How far must a journalist go before breaking a law is not covered by the first amendment?

What makes someone a "journalist" is also another valid question with all these "independent journalists " who are nothing more than people with podcasts and multiple social media pages.

Because like him or not....Lemon IS a journalist.

Not remotely a close call.

He did not steal anything or kill anyone.

So Lemon can claim whatever he wants.

Charges will be dropped very soon.


If this has been Tucker Carlson and a mob storming a black church or a Jewish synagogue…Tucker would be looking a 30+ years in Federal prison.

And it would absolutely be convicted.

It's almost like there is a massive double standard and that hate crime laws are only enforced on some and not others





Maybe so.

But life has never been fair.

And right now black gay men are granted an extreme amount of leeway.



Alot of people on this board have a high level of trust in "due process" but with double standards/leeway/bribes to judges, why do they have that level of trust?

It's that there's more than one "process."
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Harrison Bergeron said:

KaiBear said:

Redbrickbear said:



Perfect example of why Lemon is never going to see any jail time.



You keep ignoring the question to define what is a journalist?

What is the definition?

Not going to play such a silly game.

I do not like the guy.

But the case against him is dumb.

Going to get tossed....sooner or later.

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ScottS said:

KaiBear said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

cowboycwr said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:




No surprise.

Stupid arrest to begin with.




Why is it a stupid arrest? How far must a journalist go before breaking a law is not covered by the first amendment?

What makes someone a "journalist" is also another valid question with all these "independent journalists " who are nothing more than people with podcasts and multiple social media pages.

Because like him or not....Lemon IS a journalist.

Not remotely a close call.

He did not steal anything or kill anyone.

So Lemon can claim whatever he wants.

Charges will be dropped very soon.


If this has been Tucker Carlson and a mob storming a black church or a Jewish synagogue…Tucker would be looking a 30+ years in Federal prison.

And it would absolutely be convicted.

It's almost like there is a massive double standard and that hate crime laws are only enforced on some and not others





Maybe so.

But life has never been fair.

And right now black gay men are granted an extreme amount of leeway.



Alot of people on this board have a high level of trust in "due process" but with double standards/leeway/bribes to judges, why do they have that level of trust?

I do not trust the system...far from it.

However this guy would have to have done something really destructive to be found guilty of anything.

But there is no evidence of anything fragrantly destructive.....and Lemon is connected, rich, black and gay.

Trump made a silly PR mistake here.



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KaiBear said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

KaiBear said:

Redbrickbear said:



Perfect example of why Lemon is never going to see any jail time.



You keep ignoring the question to define what is a journalist?

What is the definition?

Not going to play such a silly game.

I do not like the guy.

But the case against him is dumb.

Going to get tossed....sooner or later.

It's not a game. How can you call if a journalist if you do not know what is a journalist? It actually is a really important question. Again, you can say the charges are stupid, but if because he is a journalist then that term requires definition.

As I stated, I think politically charging him is a mistake because it gives him more attention than he ever has had in his life, but he clearly is guilty especially in light of the precedent set by Democrats arresting "journalists" - at least to the same extend Don Lemon is one.
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