The Nancy Guthrie Kidnapping. Whodunnit?

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Much evidence points to it being an inside job. The perpetrator(s) was very familiar with the cameras and the blind spots. The perpetrators spent about 50 minutes in her home. Why so long? You would think such a crime would be carried out quickly as possible.

I am thinking the poet daughter and teacher/ band member son-in-law.

Sure hope she gets released unharmed.
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nein51
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Who? What?
Harrison Bergeron
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Before this last two weeks I had no idea who was Samantha Guthrie or Don Lemon.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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nein51 said:

Who? What?

The 84 year old mother of broadcast journalist Savannah Guthrie who was abducted in Arizona about a week ago. Donald Trump has even gotten involved.

Perhaps you were vacationing in Nauru this past week and just missed it.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
nein51
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

nein51 said:

Who? What?

The 84 year old mother of broadcast journalist Savannah Guthrie who was abducted in Arizona about a week ago. Donald Trump has even gotten involved.

Perhaps you were vacationing in Nauru this past week and just missed it.

I live on my phone. This is the first I've heard of it.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Much evidence points to it being an inside job. The perpetrator(s) was very familiar with the cameras and the blind spots. The perpetrators spent about 50 minutes in her home. Why so long? You would think such a crime would be carried out quickly as possible.

I am thinking the poet daughter and band member son-in-law.

Sure hope she gets released unharmed.
crazy situation. Lots of media reporting on it during network news, day shows etc.
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never been to tuscon* - looks like a nice p*lace...........

* spelled correctly.

- tbp*

amp*le p*swine.....

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Mitch Blood Green
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I can't see heads or tails of this. Kidnapping an 84 year old woman?

Made me revisit the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. That kid was found dead. Starting to think that will happen here, too. She needs meds which I doubt the kidnappers keep on them.
BusyTarpDuster2017
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The last video message from the family looks bad. They look and act like they know she is dead, and their message sounds like they just want her body back. They said they "understand" which might mean the kidnappers reported to them that they could not keep their mother alive, who was in poor health. They also said they just want to "celebrate" with her, which is how Christians usually talk about funerals. God I hope I'm wrong.
KaiBear
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Incredible how so many individuals are willing to commit evil acts.

Usually for money.

And no matter how disgusting and destructive…..most find a way to rationalize it.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Mitch Blood Green said:

I can't see heads or tails of this. Kidnapping an 84 year old woman?

Made me revisit the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. That kid was found dead. Starting to think that will happen here, too. She needs meds which I doubt the kidnappers keep on them.

I am thinking that the kidnappers figured out pretty quick that if there was a transfer of funds in any form or fashion, they would be caught. No way they could allow Nancy to live and be a witness. I hope I am wrong.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
Oldbear83
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Mitch Blood Green said:

I can't see heads or tails of this. Kidnapping an 84 year old woman?

Made me revisit the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. That kid was found dead. Starting to think that will happen here, too. She needs meds which I doubt the kidnappers keep on them.

The pacemaker is what worries me. My understanding is that the thing sent signals to a monitor at the Guthrie home .., and there has been no signal since Friday.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

nein51 said:

Who? What?

The 84 year old mother of broadcast journalist Savannah Guthrie who was abducted in Arizona about a week ago. Donald Trump has even gotten involved.



Perhaps you were vacationing in Nauru this past week and just missed it.



No vacation. He was busy tabulating the votes for the county Judge race.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

I can't see heads or tails of this. Kidnapping an 84 year old woman?

Made me revisit the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. That kid was found dead. Starting to think that will happen here, too. She needs meds which I doubt the kidnappers keep on them.

I am thinking that the kidnappers figured out pretty quick that if there was a transfer of funds in any form or fashion, they would be caught. No way they could allow Nancy to live and be a witness. I hope I am wrong.


RD's hope has become reality. He's wrong all the time.
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KaiBear said:

Incredible how so many individuals are willing to commit evil acts.

Usually for money.

And no matter how disgusting and destructive…..most find a way to rationalize it.

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Danielsjackson114
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She probably gone..

What is weird is that out of all prominent family, why her?
FLBear5630
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Mitch Blood Green said:

I can't see heads or tails of this. Kidnapping an 84 year old woman?

Made me revisit the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. That kid was found dead. Starting to think that will happen here, too. She needs meds which I doubt the kidnappers keep on them.

I agree. This doesn't add up.

Strikes me as an inside job type, why her? At 84? Guthrie is famous, but not obscenely so. 6M? Seems low for the risk.

IMO, someone has intimate knowledge of this situation. Someone knows the relationship, knows the resources available and knew the property. Someone that took care of the property? Someone that has been there and talked to her? Seems odd, the whole set up.
STxBear81
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Crazy if this true, what's wrong with people. No compassion or empathy for others
KaiBear
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william said:

KaiBear said:

Incredible how so many individuals are willing to commit evil acts.

Usually for money.

And no matter how disgusting and destructive…..most find a way to rationalize it.




The only Taco John's near my house shut down.

Guess they didn't know anyone worth kidnapping.
Mitch Blood Green
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Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

I can't see heads or tails of this. Kidnapping an 84 year old woman?

Made me revisit the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. That kid was found dead. Starting to think that will happen here, too. She needs meds which I doubt the kidnappers keep on them.

The pacemaker is what worries me. My understanding is that the thing sent signals to a monitor at the Guthrie home .., and there has been no signal since Friday.


You think family or outsider?
Oldbear83
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

I can't see heads or tails of this. Kidnapping an 84 year old woman?

Made me revisit the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. That kid was found dead. Starting to think that will happen here, too. She needs meds which I doubt the kidnappers keep on them.

The pacemaker is what worries me. My understanding is that the thing sent signals to a monitor at the Guthrie home .., and there has been no signal since Friday.


You think family or outsider?


Outsider, but just a guess
KaiBear
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Outsider

And with every passing day the odds of the victim remaining alive drops lower and lower.
Forest Bueller III
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KaiBear said:

Outsider

And with every passing day the odds of the victim remaining alive drops lower and lower.

That's the part that stinks. Someone would have to be keeping her alive for 10 days now, without her necessary meds.

I'm pretty sure only family would be doing that for her. Also, there were a good many droplets of blood on the front porch and that ain't good at all.

She has probably been gone for a week now.

I hope for a miracle.
BellCountyBear
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Why is this kidnapping/abduction any more important than other non-celebrity types that lose family members every day to kidnapping/abduction?
Forest Bueller III
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BellCountyBear said:

Why is this kidnapping/abduction any more important than other non-celebrity types that lose family members every day to kidnapping/abduction?

It's not more important.

The notoriety of the daughter makes it news though.
KaiBear
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Forest Bueller III said:

KaiBear said:

Outsider

And with every passing day the odds of the victim remaining alive drops lower and lower.

That's the part that stinks. Someone would have to be keeping her alive for 10 days now, without her necessary meds.

I'm pretty sure only family would be doing that for her. Also, there were a good many droplets of blood on the front porch and that ain't good at all.

She has probably been gone for a week now.

I hope for a miracle.


If she was still alive……the ransom would have been paid by now.

The kidnappers are now focused on escape.
Harrison Bergeron
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BellCountyBear said:

Why is this kidnapping/abduction any more important than other non-celebrity types that lose family members every day to kidnapping/abduction?

News has never equated with importance.
KaiBear
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BellCountyBear said:

Why is this kidnapping/abduction any more important than other non-celebrity types that lose family members every day to kidnapping/abduction?


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