RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Rubio has impressed me. His ability to work with all sides and be reasonable while accomplishing goals is impressive. He has helped himself in this Administration.

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I like him, but unfortunately he may be a casualty of Trump's trade war with the world. This administration has turned allies into adversaries. Same goes for Vance.

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IMO, Vance is too combative. He may be smart, but it is tough to even send him anywhere without him pissing people off.

GrowlTowel said:

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Going from bending over and taking it up the butt, to at least asking for a reach-around, is not a trade war.

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don't waste your time........

- UF

Rubio 2028!

william said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Going from bending over and taking it up the butt, to at least asking for a reach-around, is not a trade war.

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don't waste your time........

- UF

Rubio 2028!

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Mass migration is not some fringe concern of little consequence.

It was and continues to be a crisis that destabilizes societies across the West. pic.twitter.com/cPELgF0UrW

— Secretary Marco Rubio (@SecRubio) February 14, 2026

I don't think people understand how unprecedented it is for an American Secretary of State to receive a standing ovation from the European political class.

Let's all state the obvious:

President Marco Rubio 2028. pic.twitter.com/6wEQtApyPY

— Shabbos Kestenbaum (@ShabbosK) February 14, 2026

Rubio needs to win the GOP civil war against Vance.

Conservatism and the health of the West may depend on it. https://t.co/nV7sWJGJyd

— Tyler (@TM0s41) February 14, 2026

No more Mexicans, particularly in govt. he should go back to Mexico where he came from cuz he ain't mercan!

Rubio’s speech to Europe: https://t.co/nhCGaSl8a6 pic.twitter.com/RyZ6g5i8V5

— Prison Mitch (@Prisonmitch) February 15, 2026

whiterock said:

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LOL he's Cuban

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huh, who'daknown it. Gimme some Ropa Vieja, Plantains , Frijoles Negros with a side of croquettas chased with a little papaya cream cheese danish (warm). Man, I love Mexican food!

J.R. said:

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whiterock said:

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LOL he's Cuban

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huh, who'daknown it. Gimme some Ropa Vieja, Plantains , Frijoles Negros with a side of croquettas chased with a little papaya cream cheese danish (warm). Man, I love Mexican food!

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so why did you post Cuban food?

Just make sure you know the deference 0w and 10w…and don't jack with the radio, mirror or seat settings.

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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J.R. said:

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whiterock said:

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LOL he's Cuban

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huh, who'daknown it. Gimme some Ropa Vieja, Plantains , Frijoles Negros with a side of croquettas chased with a little papaya cream cheese danish (warm). Man, I love Mexican food!

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so why did you post Cuban food?

Just make sure you know the deference 0w and 10w…and don't jack with the radio, mirror or seat settings.

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don't guess you got the Mexican joke. I don't know anything about oi changes, but can make my way around some slop!

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whiterock said:

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LOL he's Cuban

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huh, who'daknown it. Gimme some Ropa Vieja, Plantains , Frijoles Negros with a side of croquettas chased with a little papaya cream cheese danish (warm). Man, I love Mexican food!

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Yeah, AOC is more your speed.

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no she'd be into Puerto con Leche and chicharron! More regionally correct, sir.

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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J.R. said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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J.R. said:

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whiterock said:

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LOL he's Cuban

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huh, who'daknown it. Gimme some Ropa Vieja, Plantains , Frijoles Negros with a side of croquettas chased with a little papaya cream cheese danish (warm). Man, I love Mexican food!

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so why did you post Cuban food?

Just make sure you know the deference 0w and 10w…and don't jack with the radio, mirror or seat settings.

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don't guess you got the Mexican joke. I don't know anything about oi changes, but can make my way around some slop!

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There's a very thin line between your serious post, your ignorance and your jokes.

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shhh.... he's better than us >> he lives abroad. knows how to use some actual foreign words. probably chopsticks too. so cool.

Realitybites said:

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Not happening.

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No one was quite sure how the absence of GOP frontrunner Donald Trump would affect Thursday night's Fox News debate stage, but his absence allowed the debate moderators to focus most of the immigration segment on Sen. Marco Rubio's role in the Gang of 8 the mass amnesty bill that ultimately died in the House after passing through the Senate at Rubio's urging.

Fox News moderator Megyn Kelly began the immigration segment with a video montage of Rubio's anti-amnesty campaign statements made during his 2010 Senate run, asking him to square them with his role on the Senate amnesty gang. You can watch the video montage here.

Rubio's duck and dodge began with explaining the difference between what he opposed in 2010 with what he supported in 2013.

Kelly's montage showed Rubio explaining during his Senate run:

"First of all, earned path to citizenship is basically code for amnesty." Candidate Rubio

A 2009 clip shows Rubio saying:

"Never have and never will support any effort to grant blanket legalization amnesty to folks who have entered, or stayed in this country illegally." Candidate Rubio

Yet, we all know that Rubio's Gang of 8 bill would have immediately granted work permits and legal status to nearly 11 million illegal aliens before any enforcement provisions or border security measures were implemented. The only ones excluded from Rubio's amnesty were illegal aliens who had either recently entered the country, committed a felony, committed at least three misdemeanors, or committed voter fraud. No one in Washington has proposed granting work permits and legal status to illegal aliens who have committed crimes or recently entered the country, so Rubio's amnesty qualifies as the largest amnesty ever proposed in Congress. I would say that's a "blanket amnesty".

Kelly then hammered away some more.

KELLY: Within two years of getting elected you were co-sponsoring legislation to create a path to citizenship, in your words, amnesty. Haven't you already proven that you cannot be trusted on this issue?

RUBIO: No, because if you look at the quote, and it's very specific. And, it says blanket amnesty, I do not support blanket amnesty…

KELLY: … But, you went on from there…

RUBIO: … I do not support amnesty…

KELLY: … You said more than that, Senator…

RUBIO: … No, I said I do not support blanket amnesty…

KELLY: … You said earned path to citizenship is basically code for amnesty. You…

RUBIO: … It was…

KELLY: … supported earned path to citizenship…

NumbersUSA President Roy Beck commented today that he was surprised to hear Rubio hiding behind a kind of "king's X, crossed-fingers" explanation that because he used the word "blanket" he didn't really mean he opposed amnesty in general. Roy said:

"I feel certain that nearly every Floridian who in 2010 voted for Rubio over the Republican establishment's pro-amnesty candidate thought Rubio was actually opposed to granting a pathway to citizenship to millions of illegal migrants. How could they have known that he was only opposed to giving citizenship without collecting a fine? Or that he had used the adjective 'blanket' to signal that he really wanted the same thing as the pro-amnesty candidate who he defeated?"

Rubio even took fire from amnesty-supporter Jeb Bush.

"Well, I'm kind of confused because he was the sponsor of the Gang of Eight bill that did require a bunch of thresholds but ultimately allowed for citizenship over an extended period of time. I mean, that's a fact. … And then he cut and run because it wasn't popular amongst conservatives, I guess." Gov. Bush

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If Rubio is the nominee, he will lose to Newsom.

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Rubio's history on illegal immigration & amnesty is not an obstacle to a general election. It's a problem in the GOP primary. Not sure he could win one.

whiterock said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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J.R. said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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J.R. said:

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whiterock said:

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LOL he's Cuban

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huh, who'daknown it. Gimme some Ropa Vieja, Plantains , Frijoles Negros with a side of croquettas chased with a little papaya cream cheese danish (warm). Man, I love Mexican food!

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so why did you post Cuban food?

Just make sure you know the deference 0w and 10w…and don't jack with the radio, mirror or seat settings.

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don't guess you got the Mexican joke. I don't know anything about oi changes, but can make my way around some slop!

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There's a very thin line between your serious post, your ignorance and your jokes.

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shhh.... he's better than us >> he lives abroad. knows how to use some actual foreign words. probably chopsticks too. so cool.

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yeah, where you live in Frisco/plano or Gilmer are indeed awesome. think I'll take where I live, there fella.

whiterock said:

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Rubio's history on illegal immigration & amnesty is not an obstacle to a general election. It's a problem in the GOP primary. Not sure he could win one.

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You underestimate the number of GOP primary voters who consider mass immigration to be an existential crisis for the nation and would allow a nominee to lose a general election if they adopted Democrat policies on this issue.

J.R. said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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J.R. said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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J.R. said:

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whiterock said:

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LOL he's Cuban

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huh, who'daknown it. Gimme some Ropa Vieja, Plantains , Frijoles Negros with a side of croquettas chased with a little papaya cream cheese danish (warm). Man, I love Mexican food!

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so why did you post Cuban food?

Just make sure you know the deference 0w and 10w…and don't jack with the radio, mirror or seat settings.

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don't guess you got the Mexican joke. I don't know anything about oi changes, but can make my way around some slop!

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There's a very thin line between your serious post, your ignorance and your jokes.

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shhh.... he's better than us >> he lives abroad. knows how to use some actual foreign words. probably chopsticks too. so cool.

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yeah, where you live in Frisco/plano or Gilmer are indeed awesome. think I'll take where I live, there fella.

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8 am post Waco time.

So what time is it in Thailand ?

whiterock said:

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Realitybites said:

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Not happening.

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No one was quite sure how the absence of GOP frontrunner Donald Trump would affect Thursday night's Fox News debate stage, but his absence allowed the debate moderators to focus most of the immigration segment on Sen. Marco Rubio's role in the Gang of 8 the mass amnesty bill that ultimately died in the House after passing through the Senate at Rubio's urging.

Fox News moderator Megyn Kelly began the immigration segment with a video montage of Rubio's anti-amnesty campaign statements made during his 2010 Senate run, asking him to square them with his role on the Senate amnesty gang. You can watch the video montage here.

Rubio's duck and dodge began with explaining the difference between what he opposed in 2010 with what he supported in 2013.

Kelly's montage showed Rubio explaining during his Senate run:

"First of all, earned path to citizenship is basically code for amnesty." Candidate Rubio

A 2009 clip shows Rubio saying:

"Never have and never will support any effort to grant blanket legalization amnesty to folks who have entered, or stayed in this country illegally." Candidate Rubio

Yet, we all know that Rubio's Gang of 8 bill would have immediately granted work permits and legal status to nearly 11 million illegal aliens before any enforcement provisions or border security measures were implemented. The only ones excluded from Rubio's amnesty were illegal aliens who had either recently entered the country, committed a felony, committed at least three misdemeanors, or committed voter fraud. No one in Washington has proposed granting work permits and legal status to illegal aliens who have committed crimes or recently entered the country, so Rubio's amnesty qualifies as the largest amnesty ever proposed in Congress. I would say that's a "blanket amnesty".

Kelly then hammered away some more.

KELLY: Within two years of getting elected you were co-sponsoring legislation to create a path to citizenship, in your words, amnesty. Haven't you already proven that you cannot be trusted on this issue?

RUBIO: No, because if you look at the quote, and it's very specific. And, it says blanket amnesty, I do not support blanket amnesty…

KELLY: … But, you went on from there…

RUBIO: … I do not support amnesty…

KELLY: … You said more than that, Senator…

RUBIO: … No, I said I do not support blanket amnesty…

KELLY: … You said earned path to citizenship is basically code for amnesty. You…

RUBIO: … It was…

KELLY: … supported earned path to citizenship…

NumbersUSA President Roy Beck commented today that he was surprised to hear Rubio hiding behind a kind of "king's X, crossed-fingers" explanation that because he used the word "blanket" he didn't really mean he opposed amnesty in general. Roy said:

"I feel certain that nearly every Floridian who in 2010 voted for Rubio over the Republican establishment's pro-amnesty candidate thought Rubio was actually opposed to granting a pathway to citizenship to millions of illegal migrants. How could they have known that he was only opposed to giving citizenship without collecting a fine? Or that he had used the adjective 'blanket' to signal that he really wanted the same thing as the pro-amnesty candidate who he defeated?"

Rubio even took fire from amnesty-supporter Jeb Bush.

"Well, I'm kind of confused because he was the sponsor of the Gang of Eight bill that did require a bunch of thresholds but ultimately allowed for citizenship over an extended period of time. I mean, that's a fact. … And then he cut and run because it wasn't popular amongst conservatives, I guess." Gov. Bush

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If Rubio is the nominee, he will lose to Newsom.

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Rubio's history on illegal immigration & amnesty is not an obstacle to a general election. It's a problem in the GOP primary. Not sure he could win one.

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Need to understand where Rubio is from in South Florida and his family history. He cannot be as hardcore on immigration as it is not who he or his family are. His Dad came over from Cuba under Batista and worked as a bartender and him Mom was a maid.

That part of Miami is 100% USA is the land of opportunity. If he goes full on ICE Minneapolis he will not be able to go home.

Rubio is the GOP's best shot at bridging the gap and beating a Newsome or AOC on immigration, he lived it.

KaiBear said:

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whiterock said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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J.R. said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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J.R. said:

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whiterock said:

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LOL he's Cuban

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huh, who'daknown it. Gimme some Ropa Vieja, Plantains , Frijoles Negros with a side of croquettas chased with a little papaya cream cheese danish (warm). Man, I love Mexican food!

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so why did you post Cuban food?

Just make sure you know the deference 0w and 10w…and don't jack with the radio, mirror or seat settings.

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don't guess you got the Mexican joke. I don't know anything about oi changes, but can make my way around some slop!

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There's a very thin line between your serious post, your ignorance and your jokes.

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shhh.... he's better than us >> he lives abroad. knows how to use some actual foreign words. probably chopsticks too. so cool.

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yeah, where you live in Frisco/plano or Gilmer are indeed awesome. think I'll take where I live, there fella.

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8 am post Waco time.

So what time is it in Thailand ?

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10:00pm tues. Almost wed

Realitybites said:

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whiterock said:

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Rubio's history on illegal immigration & amnesty is not an obstacle to a general election. It's a problem in the GOP primary. Not sure he could win one.

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You underestimate the number of GOP primary voters who consider mass immigration to be an existential crisis for the nation and would allow a nominee to lose a general election if they adopted Democrat policies on this issue.

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Motivation of the base is an issue, for sure. And I think that's part of the reason why Rubio would not be competitive in the primary - too many like me see the bruise he has on the issue. But Trump admin has and will continue to deflate a lot of wind out of the sails on the immigration issue. It will not likely be the #1 driver of 2028. The economy will be. And an awful lot of us who were disappointed at his Gang of *8 routine would still support him over the Dem nominee, who will be beholden to the open borders crowd.

But, to your point, better to go a different direction and avoid that internal conflict altogether. Vance/Rubio solves it just fine. That will be a hard ticket for the GOP to avoid, and a hard one for the Dems to beat.

Rubio hit it out of the park with this speech.

I was worried he was a Bush plant in the Trump administration when first discussed as a SoS candidate, but he has really proven me wrong. It seems he was born to be a SoS who strongly promotes an America first viewpoint. On the international stage he does it in a way that is effective and yet softer and more digestible than Vance or Trump.

for 2028, I would prefer a Vance/DeSantis ticket with Rubio staying as SoS. But Vance/Rubio is ok with me too.

Imagine voting for someone that isnt a Manchurian candidate for the Sand People.

This is the only correct choice in 2028