The Rising Star of James Fishback

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

James Fishback is the Boomer Con's worst nightmare and represents the future of American conservatism.



I don't disagree with some of this guy's positions, but it is interesting for him to say "Christ is King" and I certainly don't see him being destined for any sort of greatness.

It was just a couple of years ago that the Broward County School District fired him following claims of a romantic relationship with a 17-year-old student, who he eventually moved in with, and who filed stalking claims against him in 2024. Not exactly "Christ is King" behavior...


Allegations, not proven in court. Judge rejected the restraining order.


You might want to read what I wrote again young pup.

He was seeing a 17 year old. That's a proven fact not an allegation. He also moved in with her. He's admitted as much. So that's a proven fact as well. And he did lose his contract with the school district over that inappropriate relationship - also a proven fact.

The only "allegation" is her allegation of stalking. The judge didn't grant a restraining order but did label in obsessed with the girl and told him to stay away from her.

So in short, 30 year old dude shacked up with a 17 year old girl against her families wishes while claiming he's for Christian values.

Take it from someone old enough to be your daddy - you want to perhaps have a little more discernment regarding the men you follow and listen to.


Sorry grandpa, it's not confirmed. She claims they were together when she was 17, he claims it was after she turned 18.

What's confirmed is they moved in together when she was 18 and he was 27, not 30. Although the age range is wider than some, that's still two consenting adults. Nothing burger.


When I was young, I was also full of piss and vinegar, and had a tendency to read things quickly and interpret them in a way that was convenient for my positions. I would submit that that's what you're doing here young pup.

I never suggested what the dude did was illegal. In Florida, 17 years is the age of consent. All indications were he was hooking up with her when she was 17 which, while not illegal, certainly call into question, the guy's judgment and purported Christian beliefs. That was the point of my post young pup, which you would've seen if you had read it to comprehend instead of reading it to refute an argument - one that was never made by me, I might add.

Older men who are Christian don't shack up with 17 or 18-year-old girls against their parents wishes, and then get accused of abusive conduct. If you are a Christian, you should know that.

You need much better role models in your life young pup. Hating Jews or Israel should not be your only criteria, though I realize they are the bogeyman in your mind. Idolizing morally bankrupt people is never a good idea.



Hey moron, I never said your original post was wrong. I responded with additional clarity on the situation

However, your second post was wrong, as you said he was "seeing a 17 year old", that's not confirmed. You said in the same post that he was 30 years old while doing so. Thats blatantly wrong.

Also it's not a sin for a man to date a woman against her family's wishes.

That leaves a 27 year old man dating an 18 year old girl. If that's a sin, good luck finding the scripture to support it.

You know you've touched a nerve when a person resorts to personal attacks.

To clarify a few things, there is no confirmed report she was 18, and not 17 - just the self-serving denial from Fishback. Apparently, Broward ISD, and certainly the girl and her parents, both claim she was 17.

As for 30 vs 27, ok. Does that make it better in your mind that Fishback shacked up with a 17/18 year old girl, living in wedlock with one of his students, who later filed suit against him and accused him of abuse?

You're still missing the forest through the trees, youngster. Again, these are all little distinctions without a difference. Whether she was 17 or 18, or he was 27 and not 30 completely misses the point. You were attempting to argue that no court found that he did anything wrong. My point, on the other hand, was that what he did speaks to his character, or rather lack thereof, and his purported Christian values. What he did is morally bankrupt.

That's the point, young 'un.


There is nothing inherently wrong with the age gap. In fact, an age gap like that has only become remotely taboo in modern times. One of my best friends from Baylor, his father was a professor and married one of his students. They got engaged within two months and have been married ever since. Their age gap is wider than this one. Is their marriage somehow illegitimate?


There is a big difference between getting married to a college student, and living in sin with a 17 year old high school kid.
I would still say that is not right for any teacher at any age to have a romantic relationship with one of their students.

Fishback never married the girl. They eventual got engaged but never married. Fishback has admitted that their relationship started when the girl was 17, and she was one of his debate students. This is obviously immoral and inappropriate behavior. There is no justification for it.

If he had become a Christian after this incident, then it wouldn't matter so much. But he claims he was a Christian before 2021, and he actuality tries to defend his actions during this immoral relationship. If he wasn't pushing himself as such a strong Christian, then none of this would matter so much... he would just be another politicians with an immoral personal life. The fact that he promotes himself as having such strong Christian values, and claims that all of his positions are rooted in his Christian beliefs.... makes this relationship a very big issue indeed.

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

James Fishback is the Boomer Con's worst nightmare and represents the future of American conservatism.



I don't disagree with some of this guy's positions, but it is interesting for him to say "Christ is King" and I certainly don't see him being destined for any sort of greatness.

It was just a couple of years ago that the Broward County School District fired him following claims of a romantic relationship with a 17-year-old student, who he eventually moved in with, and who filed stalking claims against him in 2024. Not exactly "Christ is King" behavior...


Allegations, not proven in court. Judge rejected the restraining order.


You might want to read what I wrote again young pup.

He was seeing a 17 year old. That's a proven fact not an allegation. He also moved in with her. He's admitted as much. So that's a proven fact as well. And he did lose his contract with the school district over that inappropriate relationship - also a proven fact.

The only "allegation" is her allegation of stalking. The judge didn't grant a restraining order but did label in obsessed with the girl and told him to stay away from her.

So in short, 30 year old dude shacked up with a 17 year old girl against her families wishes while claiming he's for Christian values.

Take it from someone old enough to be your daddy - you want to perhaps have a little more discernment regarding the men you follow and listen to.


Sorry grandpa, it's not confirmed. She claims they were together when she was 17, he claims it was after she turned 18.

What's confirmed is they moved in together when she was 18 and he was 27, not 30. Although the age range is wider than some, that's still two consenting adults. Nothing burger.


When I was young, I was also full of piss and vinegar, and had a tendency to read things quickly and interpret them in a way that was convenient for my positions. I would submit that that's what you're doing here young pup.

I never suggested what the dude did was illegal. In Florida, 17 years is the age of consent. All indications were he was hooking up with her when she was 17 which, while not illegal, certainly call into question, the guy's judgment and purported Christian beliefs. That was the point of my post young pup, which you would've seen if you had read it to comprehend instead of reading it to refute an argument - one that was never made by me, I might add.

Older men who are Christian don't shack up with 17 or 18-year-old girls against their parents wishes, and then get accused of abusive conduct. If you are a Christian, you should know that.

You need much better role models in your life young pup. Hating Jews or Israel should not be your only criteria, though I realize they are the bogeyman in your mind. Idolizing morally bankrupt people is never a good idea.



Hey moron, I never said your original post was wrong. I responded with additional clarity on the situation

However, your second post was wrong, as you said he was "seeing a 17 year old", that's not confirmed. You said in the same post that he was 30 years old while doing so. Thats blatantly wrong.

Also it's not a sin for a man to date a woman against her family's wishes.

That leaves a 27 year old man dating an 18 year old girl. If that's a sin, good luck finding the scripture to support it.

You know you've touched a nerve when a person resorts to personal attacks.

To clarify a few things, there is no confirmed report she was 18, and not 17 - just the self-serving denial from Fishback. Apparently, Broward ISD, and certainly the girl and her parents, both claim she was 17.

As for 30 vs 27, ok. Does that make it better in your mind that Fishback shacked up with a 17/18 year old girl, living in wedlock with one of his students, who later filed suit against him and accused him of abuse?

You're still missing the forest through the trees, youngster. Again, these are all little distinctions without a difference. Whether she was 17 or 18, or he was 27 and not 30 completely misses the point. You were attempting to argue that no court found that he did anything wrong. My point, on the other hand, was that what he did speaks to his character, or rather lack thereof, and his purported Christian values. What he did is morally bankrupt.

That's the point, young 'un.


There is nothing inherently wrong with the age gap. In fact, an age gap like that has only become remotely taboo in modern times. One of my best friends from Baylor, his father was a professor and married one of his students. They got engaged within two months and have been married ever since. Their age gap is wider than this one. Is their marriage somehow illegitimate?


Depends on the age gap. Normally I agree that a 10 or 11 year age gap isn't a big deal. However, once again, that's not the issue. The issue is she was a high school student and likely 17 when he started having sex with her out of wedlock. That's her position and that appears to be the school district position. The other issue, which is kind of my point, is that claiming Christ is king rings hollow if you don't live in a way and behave in a way that indicates you truly believe that.
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ShooterTX said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

James Fishback is the Boomer Con's worst nightmare and represents the future of American conservatism.



I don't disagree with some of this guy's positions, but it is interesting for him to say "Christ is King" and I certainly don't see him being destined for any sort of greatness.

It was just a couple of years ago that the Broward County School District fired him following claims of a romantic relationship with a 17-year-old student, who he eventually moved in with, and who filed stalking claims against him in 2024. Not exactly "Christ is King" behavior...


Allegations, not proven in court. Judge rejected the restraining order.


You might want to read what I wrote again young pup.

He was seeing a 17 year old. That's a proven fact not an allegation. He also moved in with her. He's admitted as much. So that's a proven fact as well. And he did lose his contract with the school district over that inappropriate relationship - also a proven fact.

The only "allegation" is her allegation of stalking. The judge didn't grant a restraining order but did label in obsessed with the girl and told him to stay away from her.

So in short, 30 year old dude shacked up with a 17 year old girl against her families wishes while claiming he's for Christian values.

Take it from someone old enough to be your daddy - you want to perhaps have a little more discernment regarding the men you follow and listen to.


Sorry grandpa, it's not confirmed. She claims they were together when she was 17, he claims it was after she turned 18.

What's confirmed is they moved in together when she was 18 and he was 27, not 30. Although the age range is wider than some, that's still two consenting adults. Nothing burger.


When I was young, I was also full of piss and vinegar, and had a tendency to read things quickly and interpret them in a way that was convenient for my positions. I would submit that that's what you're doing here young pup.

I never suggested what the dude did was illegal. In Florida, 17 years is the age of consent. All indications were he was hooking up with her when she was 17 which, while not illegal, certainly call into question, the guy's judgment and purported Christian beliefs. That was the point of my post young pup, which you would've seen if you had read it to comprehend instead of reading it to refute an argument - one that was never made by me, I might add.

Older men who are Christian don't shack up with 17 or 18-year-old girls against their parents wishes, and then get accused of abusive conduct. If you are a Christian, you should know that.

You need much better role models in your life young pup. Hating Jews or Israel should not be your only criteria, though I realize they are the bogeyman in your mind. Idolizing morally bankrupt people is never a good idea.



Hey moron, I never said your original post was wrong. I responded with additional clarity on the situation

However, your second post was wrong, as you said he was "seeing a 17 year old", that's not confirmed. You said in the same post that he was 30 years old while doing so. Thats blatantly wrong.

Also it's not a sin for a man to date a woman against her family's wishes.

That leaves a 27 year old man dating an 18 year old girl. If that's a sin, good luck finding the scripture to support it.

You know you've touched a nerve when a person resorts to personal attacks.

To clarify a few things, there is no confirmed report she was 18, and not 17 - just the self-serving denial from Fishback. Apparently, Broward ISD, and certainly the girl and her parents, both claim she was 17.

As for 30 vs 27, ok. Does that make it better in your mind that Fishback shacked up with a 17/18 year old girl, living in wedlock with one of his students, who later filed suit against him and accused him of abuse?

You're still missing the forest through the trees, youngster. Again, these are all little distinctions without a difference. Whether she was 17 or 18, or he was 27 and not 30 completely misses the point. You were attempting to argue that no court found that he did anything wrong. My point, on the other hand, was that what he did speaks to his character, or rather lack thereof, and his purported Christian values. What he did is morally bankrupt.

That's the point, young 'un.


There is nothing inherently wrong with the age gap. In fact, an age gap like that has only become remotely taboo in modern times. One of my best friends from Baylor, his father was a professor and married one of his students. They got engaged within two months and have been married ever since. Their age gap is wider than this one. Is their marriage somehow illegitimate?


There is a big difference between getting married to a college student, and living in sin with a 17 year old high school kid.
I would still say that is not right for any teacher at any age to have a romantic relationship with one of their students.

Fishback never married the girl. They eventual got engaged but never married. Fishback has admitted that their relationship started when the girl was 17, and she was one of his debate students. This is obviously immoral and inappropriate behavior. There is no justification for it.

If he had become a Christian after this incident, then it wouldn't matter so much. But he claims he was a Christian before 2021, and he actuality tries to defend his actions during this immoral relationship. If he wasn't pushing himself as such a strong Christian, then none of this would matter so much... he would just be another politicians with an immoral personal life. The fact that he promotes himself as having such strong Christian values, and claims that all of his positions are rooted in his Christian beliefs.... makes this relationship a very big issue indeed.




Of course your first sentence is the ultimate point. That's what he keeps missing or glossing over.
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boognish_bear said:



The problem with this question is that A us the only option the demoncrats will actuality do. They will get huge kickbacks from the teachers unions.

B and C do nothing for the dems, so that will never happen. Those options are only presented to try and get normal people to oppose the bombing of Iran.

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ShooterTX said:

boognish_bear said:



The problem with this question is that A us the only option the demoncrats will actuality do. They will get huge kickbacks from the teachers unions.

B and C do nothing for the dems, so that will never happen. Those options are only presented to try and get normal people to oppose the bombing of Iran.



Sure and additionally, the problem is not framed correctly in context of current intelligence and future case.

Would I rather give teachers a one time bonus than bomb Iran? If Iran was developing nukes, and wasn't far away from achieving that, and was a terrorist funder, etc, and are potentially a threat to my kids, I'll stick with the option of bombing Iran.

If that information is false, then I don't think teachers deserve a federal taxpayer funded bonus anyway, that should be handled by the state and localities.

Downpayment assistance is nice, but that would just inflate the housing prices for those homes.

Rural hospitals would be my choice, but unfortunately, that money isn't going to fund those hospitals forever.

These stupid options are typical LIBERAL thinking - surface level, completely lacking any real substance.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

ShooterTX said:

boognish_bear said:



The problem with this question is that A us the only option the demoncrats will actuality do. They will get huge kickbacks from the teachers unions.

B and C do nothing for the dems, so that will never happen. Those options are only presented to try and get normal people to oppose the bombing of Iran.



Sure and additionally, the problem is not framed correctly in context of current intelligence and future case.

Would I rather give teachers a one time bonus than bomb Iran? If Iran was developing nukes, and wasn't far away from achieving that, and was a terrorist funder, etc, and are potentially a threat to my kids, I'll stick with the option of bombing Iran.

If that information is false, then I don't think teachers deserve a federal taxpayer funded bonus anyway, that should be handled by the state and localities.

Downpayment assistance is nice, but that would just inflate the housing prices for those homes.

Rural hospitals would be my choice, but unfortunately, that money isn't going to fund those hospitals forever.

These stupid options are typical LIBERAL thinking - surface level, completely lacking any real substance.


How about would you rather waste another 200 billion dollars fighting Israel's wars or pay down national debt, lower inflation, and cut taxes?
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


These stupid options are typical LIBERAL thinking - surface level, completely lacking any real substance.


Not at all. It actually raises a very important philosophical point:

Should a nation that is approaching 40 trillion in debt go further into debt for the well being of foreign countries while depriving its own citizens or not?

The issue isn't whether you lower inflation or fund rural hospitals.

Neocon policy ensures that neither one will be done.

Fishback for governor. He is attempting to hold together a coalition that Levin and company are trying to destroy.

Hopefully he succeeds and rides that success to the governor's mansion.
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The_barBEARian said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

ShooterTX said:

boognish_bear said:



The problem with this question is that A us the only option the demoncrats will actuality do. They will get huge kickbacks from the teachers unions.

B and C do nothing for the dems, so that will never happen. Those options are only presented to try and get normal people to oppose the bombing of Iran.



Sure and additionally, the problem is not framed correctly in context of current intelligence and future case.

Would I rather give teachers a one time bonus than bomb Iran? If Iran was developing nukes, and wasn't far away from achieving that, and was a terrorist funder, etc, and are potentially a threat to my kids, I'll stick with the option of bombing Iran.

If that information is false, then I don't think teachers deserve a federal taxpayer funded bonus anyway, that should be handled by the state and localities.

Downpayment assistance is nice, but that would just inflate the housing prices for those homes.

Rural hospitals would be my choice, but unfortunately, that money isn't going to fund those hospitals forever.

These stupid options are typical LIBERAL thinking - surface level, completely lacking any real substance.


How about would you rather waste another 200 billion dollars fighting Israel's wars or pay down national debt, lower inflation, and cut taxes?

once again.... 3 options that the dems will NEVER support or allow.

Also another falsely framed question. The bombing of Iran is NOT Israel's war. America had plenty of reasons to bomb Iran. If you can't understand that, then you are just a fool.
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ShooterTX said:

The bombing of Iran is NOT Israel's war.


Marco Rubio essentially said as much. He was backed up by Joe Kent.
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