RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: President Trump raises new global tariff rate from 10% to 15%. pic.twitter.com/TW1mBOd1fj

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) February 21, 2026

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Obviously Trump did not receive the message from the Supreme Court that it is Congress that has the ability to levy taxes, not the Executive branch. So his reaction is to raise tariffs across the board? Not sure the Supreme Court is in the mood for a pissing contest.

Trump's greatest blunder on trade was him using tariffs as a means to raise revenue, mostly paid by American companies. I don't think he really gives a **** who the tax burden falls on. He does not live in the real world.

I am a little sad I won't be receiving my $2,000 Tariff Stimulus check.

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Good God Almighty fella ..,, are you ever going to stop with your incessant whining ?

You chose to retire early. Mean ol Trump had nothing to do with it. Keep in mind you live better than 98% of the world's population.

So grab a shotgun, and go kill a dozen jack rabbits and enjoy another beautiful day above ground.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: President Trump raises new global tariff rate from 10% to 15%. pic.twitter.com/TW1mBOd1fj

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) February 21, 2026

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Obviously Trump did not receive the message from the Supreme Court that it is Congress that has the ability to levy taxes, not the Executive branch. So his reaction is to raise tariffs across the board? Not sure the Supreme Court is in the mood for a pissing contest.

Trump's greatest blunder on trade was him using tariffs as a means to raise revenue, mostly paid by American companies. I don't think he really gives a **** who the tax burden falls on. He does not live in the real world.

I am a little sad I won't be receiving my $2,000 Tariff Stimulus check.

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Good God Almighty fella ..,, are you ever going to stop with your incessant whining ?

You chose to retire early. Mean ol Trump had nothing to do with it. Keep in mind you live better than 98% of the world's population.

So grab a shotgun, and go kill a dozen jack rabbits and enjoy another beautiful day above ground.

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Obviously I have once again said something that has hurt your feelings. I am sorry.

Have been retired for five years now. My only regret is I didn't do it sooner. For the record, it was Joe Biden and the working world after Covid that convinced me to retire. Trump had nothing to do with it. Once again, please accept my apology. I will make more of an effort to attack Trump on policy, - not personality.

For the record, I was just kidding about the Tariff Stimulus check. I figure we will receive them right after we no longer have to pay taxes on Social Security.

And jackrabbits aren't my varmint of choice. The meat is much too tough.

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Personal record was 60 jack rabbits in one of our alfalfa fields adjacent to some sand hill ground.

Figured I had the right to kill them since was inadvertently feeding the *******s. Never ate rabbit.

Once killed 14 dove with one shotgun blast in my commodity barn, as they feasted on a pile of rolled corn. Gave them to the livestock extension agent who said it couldn't be done.

18 pigeons with one shot along a fence line, was my personal best.

Gave them to my Mexicans……and was always a good reminder for them on who was the better shot.

FLBear5630 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: President Trump raises new global tariff rate from 10% to 15%. pic.twitter.com/TW1mBOd1fj

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) February 21, 2026

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Obviously Trump did not receive the message from the Supreme Court that it is Congress that has the ability to levy taxes, not the Executive branch. So his reaction is to raise tariffs across the board? Not sure the Supreme Court is in the mood for a pissing contest.

Trump's greatest blunder on trade was him using tariffs as a means to raise revenue, mostly paid by American companies. I don't think he really gives a **** who the tax burden falls on. He does not live in the real world.

I am a little sad I won't be receiving my $2,000 Tariff Stimulus check.

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I am trying to figure out how tariffs raised trillions and we have to pay back 140B.

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I have heard $300 billion. $230 billion. $140 billion.

Just another example how deeply corrupt our government has become. A few $billion here. A few $billion there! But who's counting? I fear that these days most of our tax dollars are lost to fraud. Not really anything any of us can do about it at this point. Nobody is held accountable. For anything.

So let me get this straight.

The economy will “roar” if the government refunds money it never should have taken in the first place.

That is not some 4D chess masterstroke. That is an admission that tariffs are a tax on American businesses and consumers. If giving the money back…

— Gandalv (@Microinteracti1) February 21, 2026

boognish_bear said:

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So let me get this straight.

The economy will “roar” if the government refunds money it never should have taken in the first place.

That is not some 4D chess masterstroke. That is an admission that tariffs are a tax on American businesses and consumers. If giving the money back…

— Gandalv (@Microinteracti1) February 21, 2026

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Needs defending at the point of "money that the government never should have taken in the first place."

On what basis should the USA never impose tariffs?

Americans overwhelmingly believe Trump's tariffs have made things more expensive for them

Even 44% of Republicans agree pic.twitter.com/3bXrZqmJeq

— Polling USA (@USA_Polling) February 20, 2026

boognish_bear said:

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Americans overwhelmingly believe Trump's tariffs have made things more expensive for them

Even 44% of Republicans agree pic.twitter.com/3bXrZqmJeq

— Polling USA (@USA_Polling) February 20, 2026

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My 6th grade teacher was the greatest I ever had, and this from one who has 2 Master's.

He came in from lunch one day and went straight to the blackboard. Picked up chalk and wrote:

"9 out of 10 doctors recommend medication X."

Turned around and asked us how that could be both true and deceptive. We were stumped.

Erased everything but "9 out of."

Wrote: ..."every 10 doctors recommend medication X." Said: "Now it means something."

Started into the standard lesson, whatever it was....

That moment has guided my thinking the rest of my life.

canoso said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Americans overwhelmingly believe Trump's tariffs have made things more expensive for them

Even 44% of Republicans agree pic.twitter.com/3bXrZqmJeq

— Polling USA (@USA_Polling) February 20, 2026

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My 6th grade teacher was the greatest I ever had, and this from one who has 2 Master's.

He came in from lunch one day and went straight to the blackboard. Picked up chalk and wrote:

"9 out of 10 doctors recommend medication X."

Turned around and asked us how that could be both true and deceptive. We were stumped.

Erased everything but "9 out of."

Wrote: ..."every 10 doctors recommend medication X." Said: "Now it means something."

Started into the standard lesson, whatever it was....

That moment has guided my thinking the rest of my life.

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Back to the point I have been saying (and getting crushed on by MAGA), we are talking an election. It doesn't matter if it is correct. The majority of voters think that Trump's tariffs have made things more expensive.

You can argue how stupid they are, how they are wrong, how it is plot against Donald. IT DOES NOT MATTER. The messaging coming from the White House is bad. Leavitt hurts more than helps. Oh, she gets good shots in that MAGA chuckle. But she also insults people that reach millions of voters. Each vote counts, no matter how stupid. With ID or not, if you piss them off AND they think you are making things more expensive they will not vote for you.

See the ICE situation. Homan gets it. If Homan is the most press savvy in the group, they are in deep trouble. That is not his strong suit...

I am not attacking Donald, we are going to get Biden 2 if he doesn't start getting the messaging right. No matter how good the policies, if the execution is horrible it is a problem.

Now tell me I am ranting and let the discrediting begin...

FLBear5630 said:

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canoso said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Americans overwhelmingly believe Trump's tariffs have made things more expensive for them

Even 44% of Republicans agree pic.twitter.com/3bXrZqmJeq

— Polling USA (@USA_Polling) February 20, 2026

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My 6th grade teacher was the greatest I ever had, and this from one who has 2 Master's.

He came in from lunch one day and went straight to the blackboard. Picked up chalk and wrote:

"9 out of 10 doctors recommend medication X."

Turned around and asked us how that could be both true and deceptive. We were stumped.

Erased everything but "9 out of."

Wrote: ..."every 10 doctors recommend medication X." Said: "Now it means something."

Started into the standard lesson, whatever it was....

That moment has guided my thinking the rest of my life.

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Back to the point I have been saying (and getting crushed on by MAGA), we are talking an election. It doesn't matter if it is correct. The majority of voters think that Trump's tariffs have made things more expensive.

You can argue how stupid they are, how they are wrong, how it is plot against Donald. IT DOES NOT MATTER. The messaging coming from the White House is bad. Leavitt hurts more than helps. Oh, she gets good shots in that MAGA chuckle. But she also insults people that reach millions of voters. Each vote counts, no matter how stupid. With ID or not, if you piss them off AND they think you are making things more expensive they will not vote for you.

See the ICE situation. Homan gets it. If Homan is the most press savvy in the group, they are in deep trouble. That is not his strong suit...

I am not attacking Donald, we are going to get Biden 2 if he doesn't start getting the messaging right. No matter how good the policies, if the execution is horrible it is a problem.

Now tell me I am ranting and let the discrediting begin...

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I don't know whether you're ranting...didn't read all of it. I do know it doesn't diminish in the least what I posted.

canoso said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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canoso said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Americans overwhelmingly believe Trump's tariffs have made things more expensive for them

Even 44% of Republicans agree pic.twitter.com/3bXrZqmJeq

— Polling USA (@USA_Polling) February 20, 2026

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My 6th grade teacher was the greatest I ever had, and this from one who has 2 Master's.

He came in from lunch one day and went straight to the blackboard. Picked up chalk and wrote:

"9 out of 10 doctors recommend medication X."

Turned around and asked us how that could be both true and deceptive. We were stumped.

Erased everything but "9 out of."

Wrote: ..."every 10 doctors recommend medication X." Said: "Now it means something."

Started into the standard lesson, whatever it was....

That moment has guided my thinking the rest of my life.

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Back to the point I have been saying (and getting crushed on by MAGA), we are talking an election. It doesn't matter if it is correct. The majority of voters think that Trump's tariffs have made things more expensive.

You can argue how stupid they are, how they are wrong, how it is plot against Donald. IT DOES NOT MATTER. The messaging coming from the White House is bad. Leavitt hurts more than helps. Oh, she gets good shots in that MAGA chuckle. But she also insults people that reach millions of voters. Each vote counts, no matter how stupid. With ID or not, if you piss them off AND they think you are making things more expensive they will not vote for you.

See the ICE situation. Homan gets it. If Homan is the most press savvy in the group, they are in deep trouble. That is not his strong suit...

I am not attacking Donald, we are going to get Biden 2 if he doesn't start getting the messaging right. No matter how good the policies, if the execution is horrible it is a problem.

Now tell me I am ranting and let the discrediting begin...

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I don't know whether you're ranting...didn't read all of it. I do know it doesn't diminish in the least what I posted.

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I am not trying to diminish it. Just saying they are hurting themselves in the messaging, if there are positives they are not getting to who needs to hear it or they are being overwhelmed by how they are doing it. So, it can be true there are benefits, but it doesn't matter if the public doesn't know it or believe it.

Republicans would do well to remember they should never take criticism from people they wouldn't take advice from;(democrats).

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The question is, did the tariffs increase the costs of goods, in some cases dramatically, and did those costs get passed on to consumers. The answer to that is yes.

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Again, if that assertion was correct, it would be reflected in higher inflation in 2025.

It was not.

Ignoring the data does not bolster your case.

I suppose you could run with the idea that the Fed's numbers are fabricated and Shadowstats is correct if you wish.

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The question is, did the tariffs increase the costs of goods, in some cases dramatically, and did those costs get passed on to consumers. The answer to that is yes.

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Again, if that assertion was correct, it would be reflected in higher inflation in 2025.

It was not.

Ignoring the data does not bolster your case.

I suppose you could run with the idea that the Fed's numbers are fabricated and Shadowstats is correct if you wish.

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If you had actually read what I linked, you would see why your assumption is incorrect. Again, inflation was likely almost .6 higher because of the tariffs than it would have been without tariffs. Moreover, as pointed out in the articles, you apparently didn't read, inflation is just one narrow indicator of the repercussions of tariffs. You also have to look at job numbers and trade deficits. So while you're hyper focused only on inflation, as I tried to explain to you in the previous post, that doesn't tell the full story.

If anybody's ignoring the data, it's you.

Perhaps we should remember how many of us voted him in, and not only would do it again, but are looking forward to electing someone else similar to him.

DJT approval rating is under 50%

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Perhaps we should remember how many of us voted him in, and not only would do it again, but are looking forward to electing someone else similar to him.

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The choice was Biden/Harris. Trump was not a good choice, just better than the other guy. We need better choices.

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DJT approval rating is under 50%

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DJT approval rating is above 75%.

See how easy it is?

"didn't understand" = Biden

"actively tried to circumvent" = Obama


You may cry harder now.

canoso said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Americans overwhelmingly believe Trump's tariffs have made things more expensive for them

Even 44% of Republicans agree pic.twitter.com/3bXrZqmJeq

— Polling USA (@USA_Polling) February 20, 2026

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My 6th grade teacher was the greatest I ever had, and this from one who has 2 Master's.

He came in from lunch one day and went straight to the blackboard. Picked up chalk and wrote:

"9 out of 10 doctors recommend medication X."

Turned around and asked us how that could be both true and deceptive. We were stumped.

Erased everything but "9 out of."

Wrote: ..."every 10 doctors recommend medication X." Said: "Now it means something."

Started into the standard lesson, whatever it was....

That moment has guided my thinking the rest of my life.

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A good opinion poll is equivalent to the second statement.

boognish_bear said:

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So let me get this straight.

The economy will “roar” if the government refunds money it never should have taken in the first place.

That is not some 4D chess masterstroke. That is an admission that tariffs are a tax on American businesses and consumers. If giving the money back…

— Gandalv (@Microinteracti1) February 21, 2026

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mr. gandalv is profoundly dense. completely missed the wisdom of Sen. Kennedy's remarks.


There will be no tariff refunds.
The tariffs will continue.
Our allies will insist upon it.
Democrats are not going repeal them.

“I hope the left [which approaches power the way a drunk approaches alcohol] sees this [approach toward power the way a wine snob approaches alcohol] and will choose to [no longer get totally wasted] in the future.” https://t.co/lu2DC1LV7B

— Andrew Isker 🌳🪓 (@BonifaceOption) February 21, 2026

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Section 122 allows temporary tariffs to address balance-of-payments issues. It is narrower and time-limited compared to broader emergency powers.

If used ‘across the board,’ it would likely trigger immediate legal scrutiny again.

— Dr. Lakshay Mittal (@drlsmittal) February 20, 2026

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what value is there in an oath to execute the laws faithfully from a man who either has no regard for the law or delusionally sees the law as what he personally wants with what he doesn't want seen not merely as illegal but treasonous?

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We saw from his first term that he had no real knowledge of the Constitution, or desire to understand it. This term he seem to want to actually understand how to circumvent it.

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Continues to amuse me how leftists constantly refer to the constitution…..when only one in a thousand of them actually posses complete comprehension of the document.

KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Section 122 allows temporary tariffs to address balance-of-payments issues. It is narrower and time-limited compared to broader emergency powers.

If used ‘across the board,’ it would likely trigger immediate legal scrutiny again.

— Dr. Lakshay Mittal (@drlsmittal) February 20, 2026

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what value is there in an oath to execute the laws faithfully from a man who either has no regard for the law or delusionally sees the law as what he personally wants with what he doesn't want seen not merely as illegal but treasonous?

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We saw from his first term that he had no real knowledge of the Constitution, or desire to understand it. This term he seem to want to actually understand how to circumvent it.

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Continues to amuse me how leftists constantly refer to the constitution…..when only one in a thousand of them actually posses complete comprehension of the document.

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What is the statistic for righties?

Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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Osodecentx said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Section 122 allows temporary tariffs to address balance-of-payments issues. It is narrower and time-limited compared to broader emergency powers.

If used ‘across the board,’ it would likely trigger immediate legal scrutiny again.

— Dr. Lakshay Mittal (@drlsmittal) February 20, 2026

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what value is there in an oath to execute the laws faithfully from a man who either has no regard for the law or delusionally sees the law as what he personally wants with what he doesn't want seen not merely as illegal but treasonous?

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We saw from his first term that he had no real knowledge of the Constitution, or desire to understand it. This term he seem to want to actually understand how to circumvent it.

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Continues to amuse me how leftists constantly refer to the constitution…..when only one in a thousand of them actually posses complete comprehension of the document.

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What is the statistic for righties?

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Probably slightly better.

Since most righties can actually read beyond a 5th grade level .