Fact Checking the SOTU

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In four long years, the last administration got less than $1 trillion in new investment in the United States. And when I say less, substantially less. In 12 months, I secured commitments for more than $18 trillion pouring in from all over the globe. Think of it, much less than $1 trillion for four years versus much more than $18 trillion for one year.
What a difference a president makes.
The $18 trillion figure is fiction. As of the night of Trump's address, the White House's own website said the figure for "major investment announcements" during this Trump term was "$9.7 trillion," and even that is a major exaggeration; a detailed CNN review in October found the White House was counting trillions of dollars in vague investment pledges, pledges that were about "bilateral trade" or "economic exchange" rather than investment in the US and vague statements that didn't even rise to the level of pledges.
Daniel Dale, CNN
KaiBear
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Fear not…..no one will be interested in employing you.
Waco1947
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Kai Blah, blah, blah CNN bad.
However, facts are facts regardless of source.
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Waco1947 said:

Kai Blah, blah, blah CNN bad.
However, facts are facts regardless of source.



You are a total failure.

Beg your night nurse for an extra cookie .

That's all you have left .
BusyTarpDuster2017
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Could there possibly be anyone less qualified to be in charge of "checking facts"?
Wangchung
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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

Could there possibly be anyone less qualified to be in charge of "checking facts"?
Baghdad Bob had more credibility than Waco47 has here.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

Waco1947
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Wangchung said:

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

Could there possibly be anyone less qualified to be in charge of "checking facts"?

Baghdad Bob had more credibility than Waco47 has here.


Silly rabbit. This ain't me it's CNN
Waco1947
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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

Could there possibly be anyone less qualified to be in charge of "checking facts"?

Why? An assertion without evidence. Try again
Waco1947
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Trump claimed gas prices are "now below $2.30 a gallon in most states, and in some places, $1.99 a gallon." But no state had an average gas price on Tuesday below $2.37 per gallon, according to AAA; only two states had an average below $2.50 per gallon. And while there are some individual gas stations selling gas for below $2 per gallon, they are scarce; Patrick De Haan, head of petroleum analysis for the firm GasBuddy, said during the speech that the firm found just four stations across the country below $2 (aside from special discounts) out of the roughly 150,000 stations the firm tracks, so about 0.003% of the total.
Trump could fairly say gas prices have fallen during this presidency. They have declined from a national average of $3.12 per gallon on his inauguration day in January 2025, according to AAA, to a national average of $2.95 per gallon on Tuesday.

Waco1947
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Trump didn't inherit the worst inflation in US history, and Biden never had the worst inflation in US history. The year-over-year inflation rate in Biden's last full month in office, December 2024,was 2.9%, and the rate in the month in which Trump took over partway through, January 2025,was 3.0%; the most recent rate, for January 2026, is 2.4%. The rate did hit a 40-year high,9.1%,in June 2022, but that was far from theall-time high of 23.7%, which was set in 1920. Regardless, the rate then fell sharply over Biden's last two-and-a-half years in office.
From CNN's Daniel Dale
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Fact check: Trump falsely claims foreign countries are paying his tariffs
Trump repeated his regular false claim that tariffs are "paid for by foreign countries." In fact, tariff payments are made by importers in the US, not foreign countries, and those importers often pass on some of their costs to consumers. While foreign exporters may sometimes drop their prices to try to keep their products competitive, various analyses have found that the overwhelming majority of the costs of the tariffs Trump has imposed this term are being covered by a combination of US businesses and US consumers.

In an analysis released in February, officials at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York Wrote, "We find that nearly 90 percent of the tariffs' economic burden fell on U.S. firms and consumers." The nonpartisan federal Congressional Budget Office wrote in a February wrote that "the net effect of tariffs is to raise U.S. consumer prices by the full portion of the cost of the tariffs borne domestically (95 percent)," from a combination of price hikes by US businesses that are importing tariffed products and price hikes by US businesses that are facing less foreign competition because of the tariffs.
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So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?
EatMoreSalmon
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cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?


47 isn't searching for truth. He's searching to dump on people whose political views don't match his.
Waco1947
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cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?

Well, to talk about the current black experience, one would reference history and facts. Do you have alternative facts to prove your point?
EatMoreSalmon
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Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?

Well, to talk about the current black experience, one would reference history and facts. Do you have alternative facts to prove your point?

Channeling your inner Kamala?
cowboycwr
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Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?

Well, to talk about the current black experience, one would reference history and facts. Do you have alternative facts to prove your point?


I have real facts. To talk about the black experience in 2026 one would need to talk to African Americans that are currently alive. Not talk about how things were when MLK was alive or even further back.
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cowboycwr said:

Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?

Well, to talk about the current black experience, one would reference history and facts. Do you have alternative facts to prove your point?


I have real facts. To talk about the black experience in 2026 one would need to talk to African Americans that are currently alive. Not talk about how things were when MLK was alive or even further back.

Did something happen to all the blacks who were alive last October? I know Trump wants to protect our "extraordinary American heritage," but I didn't realize he was working so fast.
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cowboycwr said:

Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?

Well, to talk about the current black experience, one would reference history and facts. Do you have alternative facts to prove your point?


I have real facts. To talk about the black experience in 2026 one would need to talk to African Americans that are currently alive. Not talk about how things were when MLK was alive or even further back.


Common theme for both would be the Democrats treating them like pets.
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Waco1947
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EatMoreSalmon said:

Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?

Well, to talk about the current black experience, one would reference history and facts. Do you have alternative facts to prove your point?

Channeling your inner Kamala? Stupid reply. You did not deal with the facts.

Waco1947
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cowboycwr said:

Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?

Well, to talk about the current black experience, one would reference history and facts. Do you have alternative facts to prove your point?


I have real facts. To talk about the black experience in 2026 one would need to talk to African Americans that are currently alive. Not talk about how things were when MLK was alive or even further back.

history matters
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Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?

Well, to talk about the current black experience, one would reference history and facts. Do you have alternative facts to prove your point?


I have real facts. To talk about the black experience in 2026 one would need to talk to African Americans that are currently alive. Not talk about how things were when MLK was alive or even further back.

history matters

Detailed, honest , and unbiased history matters.

And I strongly doubt you are familiar with even 1% of it.
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Waco1947 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?

Well, to talk about the current black experience, one would reference history and facts. Do you have alternative facts to prove your point?

Channeling your inner Kamala? Stupid reply. You did not deal with the facts.




What facts have you presented? You keep digging deeper to get out of your hole.
Waco1947
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EatMoreSalmon said:

Waco1947 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?

Well, to talk about the current black experience, one would reference history and facts. Do you have alternative facts to prove your point?

Channeling your inner Kamala? Stupid reply. You did not deal with the facts.




What facts have you presented? You keep digging deeper to get out of your hole.

Fact check: Trump falsely claims foreign countries are paying his tariffs
Trump repeated his regular false claim that tariffs are "paid for by foreign countries." In fact, tariff payments are made by importers in the US, not foreign countries, and those importers often pass on some of their costs to consumers. While foreign exporters may sometimes drop their prices to try to keep their products competitive, various analyses have found that the overwhelming majority of the costs of the tariffs Trump has imposed this term are being covered by a combination of US businesses and US consumers.

In an analysis released in February, officials at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York Wrote, "We find that nearly 90 percent of the tariffs' economic burden fell on U.S. firms and consumers." The nonpartisan federal Congressional Budget Office wrote in a February wrote that "the net effect of tariffs is to raise U.S. consumer prices by the full portion of the cost of the tariffs borne domestically (95 percent)," from a combination of price hikes by US businesses that are importing tariffed products and price hikes by US businesses that are facing less foreign competition because of the tariffs.
Waco1947
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EatMoreSalmon said:

Waco1947 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?

Well, to talk about the current black experience, one would reference history and facts. Do you have alternative facts to prove your point?

Channeling your inner Kamala? Stupid reply. You did not deal with the facts.




What facts have you presented? You keep digging deeper to get out of your hole.

Fact check: Trump touts declines in a smattering of grocery prices, but overall grocery prices are up
Trump accurately touted declines in the prices of a small number of grocery products or product categories during this presidency to date, mentioning eggs, chicken, butter and fresh fruits. But he did not acknowledge that overall grocery prices are up an average 2.1% since January 2025, nor that far more grocery products have gotten more expensive during this presidency than have gotten cheaper.

Trump also said, "And even beef, which was very high, is starting to come down significantly." The average price of beef and veal did decline in January compared to December, by 0.9% (or 0.4% using seasonally adjusted figures), but it was still 15% higher than it was in January 2025.
From CNN's Daniel Dale
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Waco1947 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Waco1947 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?

Well, to talk about the current black experience, one would reference history and facts. Do you have alternative facts to prove your point?

Channeling your inner Kamala? Stupid reply. You did not deal with the facts.




What facts have you presented? You keep digging deeper to get out of your hole.

Fact check: Trump touts declines in a smattering of grocery prices, but overall grocery prices are up
Trump accurately touted declines in the prices of a small number of grocery products or product categories during this presidency to date, mentioning eggs, chicken, butter and fresh fruits. But he did not acknowledge that overall grocery prices are up an average 2.1% since January 2025, nor that far more grocery products have gotten more expensive during this presidency than have gotten cheaper.

Trump also said, "And even beef, which was very high, is starting to come down significantly." The average price of beef and veal did decline in January compared to December, by 0.9% (or 0.4% using seasonally adjusted figures), but it was still 15% higher than it was in January 2025.
From CNN's Daniel Dale


Over the last 50 years (approx. 19752025), the average annual inflation rate in the U.S. has been roughly 3.5% to 4%, heavily influenced by high inflation in the late 1970s and early 1980s, followed by several decades of lower, more stable rates.
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Long-Term Average (50+ years): While specific, exact 50-year windows vary, the average inflation rate from 1960 to 2025 was 3.8% per year.
1970s-80s Factor: The period included very high inflation years (e.g., over 13% in 1980).
Recent Trends: Inflation was relatively low from the 1990s through 2020 but increased to 4.14% in 2023 and has continued at moderate levels into 2025.
Purchasing Power: Due to this, the purchasing power of the dollar has significantly decreased, with $100 in 1970 having the same purchasing power as roughly $835-$850 in 2025-2026.
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Prices are still high, but Trump would have been better served if he honest about it. Biden had the same problem. Both talked about macroeconomics, not microeconomics, and kitchen table prices.
As of February 2026, U.S. inflation has cooled to 2.4% annually, down from previous highs, but consumer prices remain high because this figure represents a slower rate of increase, not a price reduction. High costs for housing, food, and services persist, as cumulative price increases from recent years are locked in, requiring higher incomes to maintain the same standard of living.
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Here is why prices remain high despite lower inflation:
  • Disinflation vs. Deflation: Inflation measures the rate of change. A 2.4% rate means prices are still rising, just more slowly than when inflation was 14.6% or, more recently, near 7%.
  • Cumulative Impact: Prices are not falling back to pre-2020 levels. A 2.4% increase is added to a base price that already rose significantly over the past three years.
  • Stiffening Costs in Specific Sectors: While some goods have leveled off, sectors like shelter (housing) and services are still seeing significant price increases.
  • Wage and Supply Pressures: Companies are still adjusting to higher labor and operational costs, and persistent supply chain issues or new tariffs can cause specific goods to remain expensive.
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Essentially, inflation has eased, but the new, higher baseline for consumer goods is not reversing.
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There is a certain ironic humor in Waco complaining about someone else's honesty.
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Oldbear83 said:

There is a certain ironic humor in Waco complaining about someone else's honesty.


Waco47 is so far down the road of selfish dishonesty and blatant hypocrisy…..he no longer cares

His life is reduced to merely killing the hours of boredom, waiting for the night nurse to flip him over.
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Waco1947 said:

Prices are still high, but Trump would have been better served if he honest about it. Biden had the same problem. Both talked about macroeconomics, not microeconomics, and kitchen table prices.
As of February 2026, U.S. inflation has cooled to 2.4% annually, down from previous highs, but consumer prices remain high because this figure represents a slower rate of increase, not a price reduction. High costs for housing, food, and services persist, as cumulative price increases from recent years are locked in, requiring higher incomes to maintain the same standard of living.
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Here is why prices remain high despite lower inflation:
  • Disinflation vs. Deflation: Inflation measures the rate of change. A 2.4% rate means prices are still rising, just more slowly than when inflation was 14.6% or, more recently, near 7%.
  • Cumulative Impact: Prices are not falling back to pre-2020 levels. A 2.4% increase is added to a base price that already rose significantly over the past three years.
  • Stiffening Costs in Specific Sectors: While some goods have leveled off, sectors like shelter (housing) and services are still seeing significant price increases.
  • Wage and Supply Pressures: Companies are still adjusting to higher labor and operational costs, and persistent supply chain issues or new tariffs can cause specific goods to remain expensive.
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Essentially, inflation has eased, but the new, higher baseline for consumer goods is not reversing.

This is a disingenuous presentation. You don't want deflation. That is depression territory. Low inflation is what you want as long as money is backed by the strength of the country and not precious metals. Once inflation has hit, you are not going back to past prices. Wage growth is what will offset inflation in this system. The higher the rate of inflation, the more difficult it is for wages to keep up (like in 2021-2024.)
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Waco1947 said:

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

Could there possibly be anyone less qualified to be in charge of "checking facts"?

Why? An assertion without evidence. Try again

Sir, every time you open your mouth, the evidence spews forth.
EatMoreSalmon
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Waco1947 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Waco1947 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?

Well, to talk about the current black experience, one would reference history and facts. Do you have alternative facts to prove your point?

Channeling your inner Kamala? Stupid reply. You did not deal with the facts.




What facts have you presented? You keep digging deeper to get out of your hole.

Fact check: Trump falsely claims foreign countries are paying his tariffs
Trump repeated his regular false claim that tariffs are "paid for by foreign countries." In fact, tariff payments are made by importers in the US, not foreign countries, and those importers often pass on some of their costs to consumers. While foreign exporters may sometimes drop their prices to try to keep their products competitive, various analyses have found that the overwhelming majority of the costs of the tariffs Trump has imposed this term are being covered by a combination of US businesses and US consumers.

In an analysis released in February, officials at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York Wrote, "We find that nearly 90 percent of the tariffs' economic burden fell on U.S. firms and consumers." The nonpartisan federal Congressional Budget Office wrote in a February wrote that "the net effect of tariffs is to raise U.S. consumer prices by the full portion of the cost of the tariffs borne domestically (95 percent)," from a combination of price hikes by US businesses that are importing tariffed products and price hikes by US businesses that are facing less foreign competition because of the tariffs.

If inflation has slowed, it is hard to seriously argue that tariffs are creating inflation, don't you think?
A Cool-Headed Take on the NY Fed's Tariff Research

The biggest inflation right now will be consumer electronics due to the buy up of parts by all the massive AI data centers. Not a tariff problem, but a supply scaling problem.
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Oldbear83 said:

There is a certain ironic humor in Waco complaining about someone else's honesty.

Hmm, yeah, we know the feeling....
EatMoreSalmon
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Waco1947 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Waco1947 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?

Well, to talk about the current black experience, one would reference history and facts. Do you have alternative facts to prove your point?

Channeling your inner Kamala? Stupid reply. You did not deal with the facts.




What facts have you presented? You keep digging deeper to get out of your hole.

Fact check: Trump touts declines in a smattering of grocery prices, but overall grocery prices are up
Trump accurately touted declines in the prices of a small number of grocery products or product categories during this presidency to date, mentioning eggs, chicken, butter and fresh fruits. But he did not acknowledge that overall grocery prices are up an average 2.1% since January 2025, nor that far more grocery products have gotten more expensive during this presidency than have gotten cheaper.

Trump also said, "And even beef, which was very high, is starting to come down significantly." The average price of beef and veal did decline in January compared to December, by 0.9% (or 0.4% using seasonally adjusted figures), but it was still 15% higher than it was in January 2025.
From CNN's Daniel Dale

Another disingenuous "fact check". Compared to the Biden Administration's record



Average annual food inflation since 1968 is 4.05%.
We are below normal now.
And overall deflation would still be a very bad thing.
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Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?

Well, to talk about the current black experience, one would reference history and facts. Do you have alternative facts to prove your point?


I have real facts. To talk about the black experience in 2026 one would need to talk to African Americans that are currently alive. Not talk about how things were when MLK was alive or even further back.

Did something happen to all the blacks who were alive last October? I know Trump wants to protect our "extraordinary American heritage," but I didn't realize he was working so fast.


Wow. That is a stretch. Even for you.

Is every black that was alive in October alive today? No. So for example if one were to try to say something about the black experience from the viewpoint of Bobby Brown who just died it would be sort of hard to get that viewpoint.

That was my point. Which like most things went right over your head.
cowboycwr
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Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

So to fact check something said in February you use a report from October???? That is only missing 4+ months of data so I'm sure it is still valid….. oh wait no it isn't.

Why didn't the Dems stand for Americans?

Well, to talk about the current black experience, one would reference history and facts. Do you have alternative facts to prove your point?


I have real facts. To talk about the black experience in 2026 one would need to talk to African Americans that are currently alive. Not talk about how things were when MLK was alive or even further back.

history matters


What a stupid reply.

Yes history matters but it does not fully explain the current black experience.

Just as fact checking something said in February with something from October does not prove or disprove the thing said in February.
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