Austin TX shooting

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Danielsjackson114
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3 dead 14 injured including the shooter. Could be more deaths as the days go on. Allegedly, dude was wearing a "Property of Allah" hoodie.

Be careful out there.
boognish_bear
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KaiBear
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No doubt the shooter was a white, Christian, republican.

4th and Inches
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KaiBear said:

No doubt the shooter was a white, Christian, republican.


latest picture circulating shows him to be none of those things
KaiBear
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4th and Inches said:

KaiBear said:

No doubt the shooter was a white, Christian, republican.



latest picture circulating shows him to be none of those things

Haven't seen any pictures of the shooter.

But 99% of the time the killers are white Christian republicans.

That's why we suck.
william
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apparently senegalese..........

ample info out there.

- UF

D!

pro ecclesia, pro javelina
Wangchung
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KaiBear said:

4th and Inches said:

KaiBear said:

No doubt the shooter was a white, Christian, republican.



latest picture circulating shows him to be none of those things

Haven't seen any pictures of the shooter.

But 99% of the time the killers are white Christian republicans.

That's why we suck.
ISWYDT
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william
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Wangchung said:

KaiBear said:

4th and Inches said:

KaiBear said:

No doubt the shooter was a white, Christian, republican.



latest picture circulating shows him to be none of those things

Haven't seen any pictures of the shooter.

But 99% of the time the killers are white Christian republicans.

That's why we suck.

ISWYDT

he's a taco johns man, so expect .....

- UF

... the unexpected!

D!!

pro ecclesia, pro javelina
boognish_bear
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I fear there may be a rash of these the next few weeks...sure hope not
Mitch Blood Green
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KaiBear said:

No doubt the shooter was a white, Christian, republican.




You in Tehran?
KaiBear
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Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

No doubt the shooter was a white, Christian, republican.




You in Tehran?

Years ago.

The people are wonderful.
Johnny Bear
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KaiBear said:

4th and Inches said:

KaiBear said:

No doubt the shooter was a white, Christian, republican.



latest picture circulating shows him to be none of those things

Haven't seen any pictures of the shooter.

But 99% of the time the killers are white Christian republicans.

That's why we suck.

You are correct - Joy Reid told me so.
TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.
Sam Lowry
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).
KaiBear
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Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?
Sam Lowry
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KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?

I prefer standards that are objective, not based on magic or emotion. If you're saying Muslims should be excluded, I'm willing to hear your argument. What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?
KaiBear
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Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?

I prefer standards that are objective, not based on magic or emotion. If you're saying Muslims should be excluded, I'm willing to hear your argument. What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?


You didn't remotely answer either question.

Try again.

Sam Lowry
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KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?

I prefer standards that are objective, not based on magic or emotion. If you're saying Muslims should be excluded, I'm willing to hear your argument. What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?


You didn't remotely answer either question.

Try again.



The answer is no.

Your turn.
KaiBear
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Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?

I prefer standards that are objective, not based on magic or emotion. If you're saying Muslims should be excluded, I'm willing to hear your argument. What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?


You didn't remotely answer either question.

Try again.



The answer is no.

Your turn.


No
Sam Lowry
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KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?

I prefer standards that are objective, not based on magic or emotion. If you're saying Muslims should be excluded, I'm willing to hear your argument. What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?


You didn't remotely answer either question.

Try again.



The answer is no.

Your turn.


No

Well, if you don't know what to change then I guess you can't complain.
KaiBear
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Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?

I prefer standards that are objective, not based on magic or emotion. If you're saying Muslims should be excluded, I'm willing to hear your argument. What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?


You didn't remotely answer either question.

Try again.



The answer is no.

Your turn.


No

Well, if you don't know what to change then I guess you can't complain.


No….you don't set the standards.
Sam Lowry
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KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?

I prefer standards that are objective, not based on magic or emotion. If you're saying Muslims should be excluded, I'm willing to hear your argument. What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?


You didn't remotely answer either question.

Try again.



The answer is no.

Your turn.


No

Well, if you don't know what to change then I guess you can't complain.


No….you don't set the standards.

Which brings us back to my question:

Quote:

What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?

KaiBear
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Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?

I prefer standards that are objective, not based on magic or emotion. If you're saying Muslims should be excluded, I'm willing to hear your argument. What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?


You didn't remotely answer either question.

Try again.



The answer is no.

Your turn.


No

Well, if you don't know what to change then I guess you can't complain.


No….you don't set the standards.

Which brings us back to my question:

Quote:

What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?




Which brings you back to your question .

As you never answered mine.


Sam Lowry
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KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?

I prefer standards that are objective, not based on magic or emotion. If you're saying Muslims should be excluded, I'm willing to hear your argument. What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?


You didn't remotely answer either question.

Try again.



The answer is no.

Your turn.


No

Well, if you don't know what to change then I guess you can't complain.


No….you don't set the standards.

Which brings us back to my question:

Quote:

What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?




Which brings you back to your question .

As you never answered mine.




The answer is no. We should have policies that are universally applicable, not tailored to personal biases. As for how many crimes should be committed by immigrants, it should be proportionally equivalent to crimes committed by native-born citizens.

Your turn.
KaiBear
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Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?

I prefer standards that are objective, not based on magic or emotion. If you're saying Muslims should be excluded, I'm willing to hear your argument. What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?


You didn't remotely answer either question.

Try again.



The answer is no.

Your turn.


No

Well, if you don't know what to change then I guess you can't complain.


No….you don't set the standards.

Which brings us back to my question:

Quote:

What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?




Which brings you back to your question .

As you never answered mine.




The answer is no. We should have policies that are universally applicable, not tailored to personal biases. As for how many crimes should be committed by immigrants, it should be proportionally equivalent to crimes committed by native-born citizens.

Your turn.


And if it was your wife killed by a drunk illegal…..followed by you being assaulted by gang banger ?

Your lofty views of course would remain exactly the same.

My turn.

I want the exact same immigration standards as Austria .
Sam Lowry
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KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?

I prefer standards that are objective, not based on magic or emotion. If you're saying Muslims should be excluded, I'm willing to hear your argument. What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?


You didn't remotely answer either question.

Try again.



The answer is no.

Your turn.


No

Well, if you don't know what to change then I guess you can't complain.


No….you don't set the standards.

Which brings us back to my question:

Quote:

What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?




Which brings you back to your question .

As you never answered mine.




The answer is no. We should have policies that are universally applicable, not tailored to personal biases. As for how many crimes should be committed by immigrants, it should be proportionally equivalent to crimes committed by native-born citizens.

Your turn.


And if it was your wife killed by a drunk illegal…..followed by you being assaulted by gang banger ?

Your lofty views of course would remain exactly the same.

My turn.

I want the exact same immigration standards as Austria .

One more question before you put me on ignore...what would Austria have done about this particular person?
KaiBear
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Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?

I prefer standards that are objective, not based on magic or emotion. If you're saying Muslims should be excluded, I'm willing to hear your argument. What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?


You didn't remotely answer either question.

Try again.



The answer is no.

Your turn.


No

Well, if you don't know what to change then I guess you can't complain.


No….you don't set the standards.

Which brings us back to my question:

Quote:

What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?




Which brings you back to your question .

As you never answered mine.




The answer is no. We should have policies that are universally applicable, not tailored to personal biases. As for how many crimes should be committed by immigrants, it should be proportionally equivalent to crimes committed by native-born citizens.

Your turn.


And if it was your wife killed by a drunk illegal…..followed by you being assaulted by gang banger ?

Your lofty views of course would remain exactly the same.

My turn.

I want the exact same immigration standards as Austria .

One more question before you put me on ignore...what would Austria have done about this particular person?


No need to put you on ignore. As most of the time I merely look past your comments.

Old Bear is right. You flipped a switch a while back. Not sure why but it is very noticeable. 50% of the time your comments now are merely gotcha games or just totally off the wall.

That was not your MO initially. Had some really thought provoking comments.

Austria would have never allowed the murderer to live in the country to begin with. He would not have met the language or cash requirements.

FYI spent much of 2023 looking for the best country to emigrate to. Was going to cash out and move. To my surprise discovered almost every single 1st world country has far stricter immigration guidelines than the US. In fact most 2nd world countries have stricter immigration guidelines.

Finally settled on New Zealand as we fit into their very narrow guidelines and had the $ 700,000 cash necessary.


Sam Lowry
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KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?

I prefer standards that are objective, not based on magic or emotion. If you're saying Muslims should be excluded, I'm willing to hear your argument. What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?


You didn't remotely answer either question.

Try again.



The answer is no.

Your turn.


No

Well, if you don't know what to change then I guess you can't complain.


No….you don't set the standards.

Which brings us back to my question:

Quote:

What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?




Which brings you back to your question .

As you never answered mine.




The answer is no. We should have policies that are universally applicable, not tailored to personal biases. As for how many crimes should be committed by immigrants, it should be proportionally equivalent to crimes committed by native-born citizens.

Your turn.


And if it was your wife killed by a drunk illegal…..followed by you being assaulted by gang banger ?

Your lofty views of course would remain exactly the same.

My turn.

I want the exact same immigration standards as Austria .

One more question before you put me on ignore...what would Austria have done about this particular person?

Old Bear is right. You flipped a switch a while back. Not sure why but it is very noticeable. 50% of the time your comments now are merely gotcha games or just totally off the wall.

That was not your MO initially. Had some really thought provoking comments.

I criticize both parties equally. If you're only thinking when you agree with me, I suppose the failure is mine.
KaiBear
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Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?

I prefer standards that are objective, not based on magic or emotion. If you're saying Muslims should be excluded, I'm willing to hear your argument. What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?


You didn't remotely answer either question.

Try again.



The answer is no.

Your turn.


No

Well, if you don't know what to change then I guess you can't complain.


No….you don't set the standards.

Which brings us back to my question:

Quote:

What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?




Which brings you back to your question .

As you never answered mine.




The answer is no. We should have policies that are universally applicable, not tailored to personal biases. As for how many crimes should be committed by immigrants, it should be proportionally equivalent to crimes committed by native-born citizens.

Your turn.


And if it was your wife killed by a drunk illegal…..followed by you being assaulted by gang banger ?

Your lofty views of course would remain exactly the same.

My turn.

I want the exact same immigration standards as Austria .

One more question before you put me on ignore...what would Austria have done about this particular person?

Old Bear is right. You flipped a switch a while back. Not sure why but it is very noticeable. 50% of the time your comments now are merely gotcha games or just totally off the wall.

That was not your MO initially. Had some really thought provoking comments.

I criticize both parties equally. If you're only thinking when you agree with me, I suppose the failure is mine.


Couldn't care less who you criticize….equally or not. Good grief guy…..get over yourself.

And next is the ever present gotcha…… really strange how you constantly need type them. Someone must be keeping score and the rest of us didn't get the memo.

Of course you ignore the realities of both the killer's presence in the United States….when he could not possibly have been allowed in Austria ….or almost anywhere else, and his impact on the families of those he killed and crippled.

Sam Lowry
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KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?

I prefer standards that are objective, not based on magic or emotion. If you're saying Muslims should be excluded, I'm willing to hear your argument. What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?


You didn't remotely answer either question.

Try again.



The answer is no.

Your turn.


No

Well, if you don't know what to change then I guess you can't complain.


No….you don't set the standards.

Which brings us back to my question:

Quote:

What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?




Which brings you back to your question .

As you never answered mine.




The answer is no. We should have policies that are universally applicable, not tailored to personal biases. As for how many crimes should be committed by immigrants, it should be proportionally equivalent to crimes committed by native-born citizens.

Your turn.


And if it was your wife killed by a drunk illegal…..followed by you being assaulted by gang banger ?

Your lofty views of course would remain exactly the same.

My turn.

I want the exact same immigration standards as Austria .

One more question before you put me on ignore...what would Austria have done about this particular person?

Old Bear is right. You flipped a switch a while back. Not sure why but it is very noticeable. 50% of the time your comments now are merely gotcha games or just totally off the wall.

That was not your MO initially. Had some really thought provoking comments.

I criticize both parties equally. If you're only thinking when you agree with me, I suppose the failure is mine.


Couldn't care less who you criticize….equally or not. Good grief guy…..get over yourself.

And next is the ever present gotcha…… really strange how you constantly need type them. Someone must be keeping score and the rest of us didn't get the memo.

Of course you ignore the realities of both the killer's presence in the United States….when he could not possibly have been allowed in Austria ….or almost anywhere else, and his impact on the families of those he killed and crippled.



I don't know the details of Austria's immigration policy, and I doubt you do either...much less this person's language or cash qualifications. My point is that there are good and bad people in all groups. You only focus on immigrants' crimes while ignoring their contributions.
Realitybites
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Finally settled on New Zealand as we fit into their very narrow guidelines and had the $ 700,000 cash necessary.



I thought their active investor program required 2.5 million US invested.
KaiBear
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Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Globalist traitor republicans and ALL progressives are why we live like this. We don't have to live like this. Society is better with standards.

You always did say naturalized citizens were un-American (even though this was one out of 26 million).


So how many more thousands of Americans need to be killed , raped, robbed or assaulted before changing our immigration standards gets your approval ?

Does the standard get magically adjusted if a member of your family becomes a statistic ?

I prefer standards that are objective, not based on magic or emotion. If you're saying Muslims should be excluded, I'm willing to hear your argument. What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?


You didn't remotely answer either question.

Try again.



The answer is no.

Your turn.


No

Well, if you don't know what to change then I guess you can't complain.


No….you don't set the standards.

Which brings us back to my question:

Quote:

What exactly do you think is wrong with the current standards, and how would you change them?




Which brings you back to your question .

As you never answered mine.




The answer is no. We should have policies that are universally applicable, not tailored to personal biases. As for how many crimes should be committed by immigrants, it should be proportionally equivalent to crimes committed by native-born citizens.

Your turn.


And if it was your wife killed by a drunk illegal…..followed by you being assaulted by gang banger ?

Your lofty views of course would remain exactly the same.

My turn.

I want the exact same immigration standards as Austria .

One more question before you put me on ignore...what would Austria have done about this particular person?

Old Bear is right. You flipped a switch a while back. Not sure why but it is very noticeable. 50% of the time your comments now are merely gotcha games or just totally off the wall.

That was not your MO initially. Had some really thought provoking comments.

I criticize both parties equally. If you're only thinking when you agree with me, I suppose the failure is mine.


Couldn't care less who you criticize….equally or not. Good grief guy…..get over yourself.

And next is the ever present gotcha…… really strange how you constantly need type them. Someone must be keeping score and the rest of us didn't get the memo.

Of course you ignore the realities of both the killer's presence in the United States….when he could not possibly have been allowed in Austria ….or almost anywhere else, and his impact on the families of those he killed and crippled.



I don't know the details of Austria's immigration policy, and I doubt you do either...much less this person's language or cash qualifications. My point is that there are good and bad people in all groups. You only focus on immigrants' crimes while ignoring their contributions.

You are dead wrong......I do know Austria's immigration guidelines; as Austria was in our top three choices. However we did not quailfy with the language requirement although we did have the money for the buy in. In addition we would have had difficulty because of our ages.

You are too old to be as naive as you are attempting to pass off. Every culture is different. Different standards, different morals, diferent expectations of what is right or wrong. 99% of my men on my El Paso operation were Hispanic. In construction in Colorado at least 50% were Hispanic. Even now I prefer the company of Hispanic individuals to that of yuppies. However I am very aware of the cultural differences. There are different sets of rules and expectations.

Same applies to every culture I have traveled to over the years,

You don't care about these destrction immigration policies or the people who suffer because of them , as you believe you are immune to the consequenses. of your lofty platitudes.

Time will tell.









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