FLBear5630 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

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That is why there must be changes around the Government to respond to what the Administration is doing. It should first start with all new production stays in US. Then incentivize to up production.

For some industries, we will need to go to a war footing. Not a negative, a reality of the world we live in and the actions we are now engaged.

The Pentagon knows how to do this and I am sure the contracts are in place. The question is will they be allowed to? Trump wants to declare something an National Emergency, allow the Pentagon to use the sole source contracts they have to get these munitions replaced and make sure the Pacific is under control. Hire back those that know what they are doing. There is more to fighting a war than infantry and intelligence. The infrastructure that supports it is just as important.

For example, it takes 2,200 civilian employees to support the F-35 program worldwide, as well as 12 Airmen per plane. For every combat soldier in the field, it takes 8 personnel to support. That is why those that say only people that fight count have no idea what it takes to put one Ranger in the field or support 1 SEAL team. It is not a vacuum. Or that Federal employees aren't serving, that is BS.

What the US does better than ANYONE is logistics. Let them do it military and civilian.

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It would have to have been done years ago, not while our military infrastructure in the Middle East is being dismantled in real time.

Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

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That is why there must be changes around the Government to respond to what the Administration is doing. It should first start with all new production stays in US. Then incentivize to up production.

For some industries, we will need to go to a war footing. Not a negative, a reality of the world we live in and the actions we are now engaged.

The Pentagon knows how to do this and I am sure the contracts are in place. The question is will they be allowed to? Trump wants to declare something an National Emergency, allow the Pentagon to use the sole source contracts they have to get these munitions replaced and make sure the Pacific is under control. Hire back those that know what they are doing. There is more to fighting a war than infantry and intelligence. The infrastructure that supports it is just as important.

For example, it takes 2,200 civilian employees to support the F-35 program worldwide, as well as 12 Airmen per plane. For every combat soldier in the field, it takes 8 personnel to support. That is why those that say only people that fight count have no idea what it takes to put one Ranger in the field or support 1 SEAL team. It is not a vacuum. Or that Federal employees aren't serving, that is BS.

What the US does better than ANYONE is logistics. Let them do it military and civilian.

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It would have to have been done years ago, not while our military infrastructure in the Middle East is being dismantled in real time.

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I agree with you but I can't imagine a time when Congress would have spent the money on munitions.

A sexy fighter or bomber being built in your district employing 1000 people, ya. A munitions plant with fewer than 100 employees they want get behind.

JMHO

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

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That is why there must be changes around the Government to respond to what the Administration is doing. It should first start with all new production stays in US. Then incentivize to up production.

For some industries, we will need to go to a war footing. Not a negative, a reality of the world we live in and the actions we are now engaged.

The Pentagon knows how to do this and I am sure the contracts are in place. The question is will they be allowed to? Trump wants to declare something an National Emergency, allow the Pentagon to use the sole source contracts they have to get these munitions replaced and make sure the Pacific is under control. Hire back those that know what they are doing. There is more to fighting a war than infantry and intelligence. The infrastructure that supports it is just as important.

For example, it takes 2,200 civilian employees to support the F-35 program worldwide, as well as 12 Airmen per plane. For every combat soldier in the field, it takes 8 personnel to support. That is why those that say only people that fight count have no idea what it takes to put one Ranger in the field or support 1 SEAL team. It is not a vacuum. Or that Federal employees aren't serving, that is BS.

What the US does better than ANYONE is logistics. Let them do it military and civilian.

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It would have to have been done years ago, not while our military infrastructure in the Middle East is being dismantled in real time.

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I agree with you but I can't imagine a time when Congress would have spent the money on munitions.

A sexy fighter or bomber being built in your district employing 1000 people, ya. A munitions plant with fewer than 100 employees they want get behind.

JMHO

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Excellent point.

Probably not. Definitely not if the reason we are at war is really, truly, "Well, see, the Israelis wanted to go to war, and we thought, 'whatdda heck,' and see, now we are at war."

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

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Iran has had years to manufacture, purchase and stockpile missles.

I think we are way behind in production of the munitions needed.

We have the quality but not the quantity.

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no chance we run out before Iran does.

the greater risk is that we deplete our stocks without causing regime change, which is the only way to control Iranian oil exports without risking military confrontation with China over oil shipments. But. If we do get a pliable regime installed in Teheran, then it doesn't matter if we dip too far into our weapons stocks to militarily deter China from invading Taiwan. We will have our foot on the neck of their oil supply. They invade, the oil stops. Checkmate.

whiterock said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

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Iran has had years to manufacture, purchase and stockpile missles.

I think we are way behind in production of the munitions needed.

We have the quality but not the quantity.

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no chance we run out before Iran does.

the greater risk is that we deplete our stocks without causing regime change, which is the only way to control Iranian oil exports without risking military confrontation with China over oil shipments. But. If we do get a pliable regime installed in Teheran, then it doesn't matter if we dip too far into our weapons stocks to militarily deter China from invading Taiwan. We will have our foot on the neck of their oil supply. They invade, the oil stops. Checkmate.

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Iranian oil represents 12% oil and 25% LPG China imports. I agree with your point, enough to get their attention. Add in Venezuela at 5%. It is a viable strategy.

whiterock said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

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Iran has had years to manufacture, purchase and stockpile missles.

I think we are way behind in production of the munitions needed.

We have the quality but not the quantity.

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no chance we run out before Iran does.

the greater risk is that we deplete our stocks without causing regime change, which is the only way to control Iranian oil exports without risking military confrontation with China over oil shipments. But. If we do get a pliable regime installed in Teheran, then it doesn't matter if we dip too far into our weapons stocks to militarily deter China from invading Taiwan. We will have our foot on the neck of their oil supply. They invade, the oil stops. Checkmate.

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No doubt we run out before Iran does. The question is what happens then.

China doesn't want to, but it can get by without Iranian oil.

whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

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Iran has had years to manufacture, purchase and stockpile missles.

I think we are way behind in production of the munitions needed.

We have the quality but not the quantity.

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no chance we run out before Iran does.

the greater risk is that we deplete our stocks without causing regime change, which is the only way to control Iranian oil exports without risking military confrontation with China over oil shipments. But. If we do get a pliable regime installed in Teheran, then it doesn't matter if we dip too far into our weapons stocks to militarily deter China from invading Taiwan. We will have our foot on the neck of their oil supply. They invade, the oil stops. Checkmate.

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No doubt we run out before Iran does. The question is what happens then.

China doesn't want to, but it can get by without Iranian oil.

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LOL you really, really suck at this stuff.

How are the battle lines in Ukraine going at the moment? Has the Russian juggernaut captured Kyiv yet?

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They're going very much as predicted. Always have. When are you planning your beach vacation in Crimea?

Married A Horn said:

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Absolutely. The 4-D multi generational chess move Trump has played against China is the most America 1st thing I've seen in ages.

On the surface:
We got rid of a Narco-Terrorist (while getting China's influence out of the Western Hemisphere.)
We are getting rid of a regime that vows death to America and funds terrorism through its proxies.

What is really going on:
China and Russia have lost their source of heavily discounted black market oil from Venezuela and Iran. China just became insanely less competitive and influencial in the world economy in the matter of a month or so.

What you dont know:
The petrodollar has been re-cemented in world markets. China has been trying for decades to cause the USA to lose 'world reserve currency' status. The way they were doing it was to begin trading oil in currencies other than the US Dollar. Epic Fury undid every single bit of progress China had made as all the other actors in the region have gone back to 100% support for the petrodollar.

Trump is absolutely destroying our primary enemy: China.

Democrats in here arent worth talking to. Republicans however need to see how big this is for America and how it is hugely an America First move!

Level 500IQ move from Trump!

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https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2026/03/03/schweizer-trumps-strikes-on-iran-disaster-for-china-on-multiple-stages/

Breitbart catching up with me.

Realitybites said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Once Iran is done, have a multi-national Arab force play peacekeeper until elections, not US or Israeli troops. Keep the UN out.

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There are bad ideas, then there the idea of trying to have a multinational Sunni Arab force play peacekeeper in a nation full of Shia Persians.

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I spit my drinking out from laughing too hard at this... well done!

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Boomers Rock!

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“I’m not fucking dying for Israel” 👏👏👏👏 pic.twitter.com/dt0b29LPZO

— Abier (@abierkhatib) March 4, 2026

The_barBEARian said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Boomers Rock!

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“I’m not fucking dying for Israel” 👏👏👏👏 pic.twitter.com/dt0b29LPZO

— Abier (@abierkhatib) March 4, 2026

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"....zionists control all social media as well...."

What do "tha Juuws" not control?

The_barBEARian said:

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Realitybites said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Once Iran is done, have a multi-national Arab force play peacekeeper until elections, not US or Israeli troops. Keep the UN out.

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There are bad ideas, then there the idea of trying to have a multinational Sunni Arab force play peacekeeper in a nation full of Shia Persians.

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I spit my drinking out from laughing too hard at this... well done!

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Yes, it was a funny "what could go wrong" comment. But.....

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/middle-east/kurds-in-iran-cia-arms-uprising-against-iran-regime-war-ayatollah-ali-khamenei-death-article-153747306
https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/03/politics/cia-arming-kurds-iran
https://www.forbes.com/sites/guneyyildiz/2026/03/03/cia-arms-irans-kurds-for-regime-change---why-is-the-opposition-against-them/

All three are good reads, pointing out different aspects of the gamesmanship. and it's good gamesmanship even if the links represent nothing more than leaks to distract Iran into preparing for an intense insurgency in their northwest highlands.....stretching their resources thin and making it easier for urban unrest to finish off the Mullah regime. Recall the inflatable tanks placed all over the British countryside where Patton was staying to prepare for the attack on Calais. Surely there could be no D-Day invasion in Normandy without Patton, right? That fixed multiple German divisions in the wrong place.

The Kurds are the largest ethnic group in the world without a state to call home. Eventually, they will get one. Closer now than they've been in a long, long time. They will become a big part of keeping Turkish ambitions in the region in check.

whiterock said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

---

Iran has had years to manufacture, purchase and stockpile missles.

I think we are way behind in production of the munitions needed.

We have the quality but not the quantity.

---

no chance we run out before Iran does.

the greater risk is that we deplete our stocks without causing regime change, which is the only way to control Iranian oil exports without risking military confrontation with China over oil shipments. But. If we do get a pliable regime installed in Teheran, then it doesn't matter if we dip too far into our weapons stocks to militarily deter China from invading Taiwan. We will have our foot on the neck of their oil supply. They invade, the oil stops. Checkmate.

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I understand your reasoning in the paragraph and agree but, explain your position for the first sentence, please.

Realitybites said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Once Iran is done, have a multi-national Arab force play peacekeeper until elections, not US or Israeli troops. Keep the UN out.

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There are bad ideas, then there the idea of trying to have a multinational Sunni Arab force play peacekeeper in a nation full of Shia Persians.

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Givens?:
We all agree no one is ready to step in and govern after?
There would be a vacuum of power?
We all agree in that vacuum the IRRC would step in?

So, somebody has to form an interim Government and maintain it until elections could occur. That is a fact. There is no other choice as a Government is not going to spring to life.

A multi-nation Shia Arab force from the Shia Crescent is a bad idea. Ok, clean up your coffee and let's discuss this bad idea. You have a better one?

Let's walk through the options...

US? - No boots on the ground. No long term German, Japanese, Iraqi type system with US troops.
(Let's be reasonable, no wholesale force on the ground. We need to take an airport, port or missile facility I can see the 82nd being used for that, it is what they do.)

Israel? - HA! No way on earth. Scratch them off.

UN? - Trump is going to turn Iran over to the UN? Macron and company? Just as funny from the Trump Administration side. I will clean up my coffee.

Kurds? - Peacekeepers? They volunteer to kill every ethnic group there is! Plus, Turkey, Iraq and Syria will go ballistic if they are let in...

Monarchy? - No internal support and has been in the US since 1978. Even if accepted he does not have the strength to fight off the IRGC.

Baku? - The Iranians were already furious with them.

Who else you got that is better than an Middle Eastern Multi-National Shia Force?

Just because it is a bad idea does not mean there is a better one out there. UNLESS, you all ready for a US occupation?

If the Iraqi war taught us anything……it's easier to defeat a country's military that to occupy one with an insufficient force.

IF Iran surrenders the only rational move is to put thousands of Muslim peace keeping troops in the country.

No other nations are close enough to transport the needed numbers. Using any force of non Muslims would result in another prolonged guerrilla war.

KaiBear said:

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If the Iraqi war taught us anything……it's easier to defeat a country's military that to occupy one with an insufficient force.

IF Iran surrenders the only rational move is to put thousands of Muslim peace keeping troops in the country.

No other nations are close enough to transport the needed numbers. Using any force of non Muslims would result in another prolonged guerrilla war.

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That is a better way to put it. Muslim peace keeping, piece meal whatever will work but it has to be Muslim.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Wow.

I had no idea that there was a declaration of war already. I don't support the declaration of war, but I do support the destruction of the evil leadership of Iran and their miliary assets.

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You're playing semantics. When the bomb comes through your window, you do not not die because there's no declaration of war. The girls at the Iranian school don't get a do-over until war is declared.

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The girls were killed by the Iranians. Are you unaware of this?

None of these actions would have occurred if the Iranian leadership had not be an evil, terrorist regime.

Blaming anyone other than the Ayatollah for this attack, is just a ridiculous farce.

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Israelis. Because of the war they started.

Isreal has been jonesing for us to get involved with this at least since 1996.

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That's a convenient interpretation of the reality of us being the only reason they hadn't gotten involved to this level previously.

Rubio was right despite the mouth breathers interpreting it as Israel leading us around by our nose. The moment we agree to let Israel attack Iran, the ONLY way for it not to be a broader uncontrolled conflict is for us to get involved. That ultimately was/is the imminent threat to the US. Israel has always had the imminent and active threat from Iran. We've just tempered their response over these many years.

whiterock said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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whiterock said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

---

Iran has had years to manufacture, purchase and stockpile missles.

I think we are way behind in production of the munitions needed.

We have the quality but not the quantity.

---

no chance we run out before Iran does.

the greater risk is that we deplete our stocks without causing regime change, which is the only way to control Iranian oil exports without risking military confrontation with China over oil shipments. But. If we do get a pliable regime installed in Teheran, then it doesn't matter if we dip too far into our weapons stocks to militarily deter China from invading Taiwan. We will have our foot on the neck of their oil supply. They invade, the oil stops. Checkmate.

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I understand your reasoning in the paragraph and agree but, explain your position for the first sentence, please.

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If we are in position to stop shipments of oil to China, then parity of munitions stocks becomes moot.

A Chinese move on Taiwan will result in sweeping economic sanctions. China would have to evade them. We already control oil shipments out of both Venezuela and Iran, two of the primary bad actors willing to evade sanctions. That leaves only Russia, who is also mired in a war of its own that is attriting oil production and refining infrastructure. And there is no path to peace for Russia which leaves them free to evade sanctions imposed by the very nations (EU & US) who will loan them money to rebuild.

Trump has taken the indirect approach to isolate China. Their plans for Taiwan are no longer tenable. They invade, they risk collapsing their economy Sure, the neverTrumpers will scoff at that. But accident or not, that's the way the board is set.

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Even if you are correct....the board is only 'set' till 2028. Then everything could be scrambled once again.


And all our potential allies and enemies know it.

ATL Bear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Wow.

I had no idea that there was a declaration of war already. I don't support the declaration of war, but I do support the destruction of the evil leadership of Iran and their miliary assets.

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You're playing semantics. When the bomb comes through your window, you do not not die because there's no declaration of war. The girls at the Iranian school don't get a do-over until war is declared.

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The girls were killed by the Iranians. Are you unaware of this?

None of these actions would have occurred if the Iranian leadership had not be an evil, terrorist regime.

Blaming anyone other than the Ayatollah for this attack, is just a ridiculous farce.

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Israelis. Because of the war they started.

Isreal has been jonesing for us to get involved with this at least since 1996.

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That's a convenient interpretation of the reality of us being the only reason they hadn't gotten involved to this level previously.

Rubio was right despite the mouth breathers interpreting it as Israel leading us around by our nose. The moment we agree to let Israel attack Iran, the ONLY way for it not to be a broader uncontrolled conflict is for us to get involved. That ultimately was/is the imminent threat to the US. Israel has always had the imminent and active threat from Iran. We've just tempered their response over these many years.

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I agree... the Sampson option does make it an imminent threat.

Allowing Israel to have nuclear weapons is insane.

whiterock said:

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Too late. They already have them. And nothing could do more to ensure peace and stability in the region than a nuclear capable Israel. It ensures no other country invades them.

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Amid turmoil, Trump to give Saudi Arabia sweet nuclear deal

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/saudi-arabia-nuclear-deal/

The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Wow.

I had no idea that there was a declaration of war already. I don't support the declaration of war, but I do support the destruction of the evil leadership of Iran and their miliary assets.

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You're playing semantics. When the bomb comes through your window, you do not not die because there's no declaration of war. The girls at the Iranian school don't get a do-over until war is declared.

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The girls were killed by the Iranians. Are you unaware of this?

None of these actions would have occurred if the Iranian leadership had not be an evil, terrorist regime.

Blaming anyone other than the Ayatollah for this attack, is just a ridiculous farce.

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Israelis. Because of the war they started.

Isreal has been jonesing for us to get involved with this at least since 1996.

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That's a convenient interpretation of the reality of us being the only reason they hadn't gotten involved to this level previously.

Rubio was right despite the mouth breathers interpreting it as Israel leading us around by our nose. The moment we agree to let Israel attack Iran, the ONLY way for it not to be a broader uncontrolled conflict is for us to get involved. That ultimately was/is the imminent threat to the US. Israel has always had the imminent and active threat from Iran. We've just tempered their response over these many years.

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I agree... the Sampson option does make it an imminent threat.

Allowing Israel to have nuclear weapons is insane.

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They have had them since the 60's, maybe before.

If anyone likes Historical Novels, Triple by Ken Follett is about Israel getting them. Just remember, I said novel. Good read, Follett does well on historical fiction.

muddybrazos said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Wow.

I had no idea that there was a declaration of war already. I don't support the declaration of war, but I do support the destruction of the evil leadership of Iran and their miliary assets.

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You're playing semantics. When the bomb comes through your window, you do not not die because there's no declaration of war. The girls at the Iranian school don't get a do-over until war is declared.

---

The girls were killed by the Iranians. Are you unaware of this?

None of these actions would have occurred if the Iranian leadership had not be an evil, terrorist regime.

Blaming anyone other than the Ayatollah for this attack, is just a ridiculous farce.

---

Israelis. Because of the war they started.

Isreal has been jonesing for us to get involved with this at least since 1996.

---

That's a convenient interpretation of the reality of us being the only reason they hadn't gotten involved to this level previously.

Rubio was right despite the mouth breathers interpreting it as Israel leading us around by our nose. The moment we agree to let Israel attack Iran, the ONLY way for it not to be a broader uncontrolled conflict is for us to get involved. That ultimately was/is the imminent threat to the US. Israel has always had the imminent and active threat from Iran. We've just tempered their response over these many years.

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I agree... the Sampson option does make it an imminent threat.

Allowing Israel to have nuclear weapons is insane.

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They have had them since the 60's, maybe before.

If anyone likes Historical Novels, Triple by Ken Follett is about Israel getting them. Just remember, I said novel. Good read, Follett does well on historical fiction.

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They have had them since Kennedy told them they couldnt have them then he was killed. Johnson gave them all they wanted.

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See Apollo affair

God bless our fallen:

muddybrazos said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Wow.

I had no idea that there was a declaration of war already. I don't support the declaration of war, but I do support the destruction of the evil leadership of Iran and their miliary assets.

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You're playing semantics. When the bomb comes through your window, you do not not die because there's no declaration of war. The girls at the Iranian school don't get a do-over until war is declared.

---

The girls were killed by the Iranians. Are you unaware of this?

None of these actions would have occurred if the Iranian leadership had not be an evil, terrorist regime.

Blaming anyone other than the Ayatollah for this attack, is just a ridiculous farce.

---

Israelis. Because of the war they started.

Isreal has been jonesing for us to get involved with this at least since 1996.

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That's a convenient interpretation of the reality of us being the only reason they hadn't gotten involved to this level previously.

Rubio was right despite the mouth breathers interpreting it as Israel leading us around by our nose. The moment we agree to let Israel attack Iran, the ONLY way for it not to be a broader uncontrolled conflict is for us to get involved. That ultimately was/is the imminent threat to the US. Israel has always had the imminent and active threat from Iran. We've just tempered their response over these many years.

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I agree... the Sampson option does make it an imminent threat.

Allowing Israel to have nuclear weapons is insane.

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They have had them since the 60's, maybe before.

If anyone likes Historical Novels, Triple by Ken Follett is about Israel getting them. Just remember, I said novel. Good read, Follett does well on historical fiction.

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They have had them since Kennedy told them they couldnt have them then he was killed. Johnson gave them all they wanted.

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Huh. Then there was a lot of deception of the US playing cat and mouse with them all the way to Nixon. I thought they got the fissionable material with help from France and developed it between inspections.


But, who knows. Anyway, the novel is a fun read.

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Israel's military said Wednesday that one of its F-35I "Adir" stealth fighter jets shot down an Iranian Air Force Yak-130, marking the first time the advanced aircraft has downed a manned fighter in combat.

"The historic shootdown over the Tehran skies is a testament to the strength of the IAF and to your personal determination," said Maj. Gen. Tomer Bar, the commander of the Israeli air force.

"The war continues return home safely. Eat some roast[Ed. addition]," he told the pilots. "The next mission is already waiting for you."

The F-35I is Israel's customized version of the U.S.-made F-35 Lightning II, a fifth-generation stealth fighter that anchors the country's air fleet.

According to the F-35 program's official website, Israel became the first country to select the aircraft through the U.S. government's Foreign Military Sales process, signing a letter of agreement in October 2010.

The site says the Israeli air force gave the jet the Hebrew name "Adir," meaning "Mighty One," and received its first F-35 on June 22, 2016.

The Yak-130 is a Russian-made, two-seat combat training aircraft designed by the Yakovlev Design Bureau, according to United Aircraft Corporation, the state-owned Russian aerospace company that manufactures the jet.
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Per today's White House press briefing: the number of rockets being fired now by the Iranians is down 86% from day 1.

I'm guessing a lot of their launchers and transports have been destroyed.