LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Per today's White House press briefing: the number of rockets being fired now by the Iranians is down 86% from day 1.

I'm guessing a lot of their launchers and transports have been destroyed.

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Trained personnel killed or wounded.
Spare parts unavailable
Workshops destroyed
Communications off line

Soon Iran will have no other option but to hunker down and plead to Western media outlets to pity their women and children.

War Secretary Pete Hegseth and State Secretary Marco Rubio are reportedly “at each other’s throats” over deploying US troops to Iran.

According to a source for MEE, Rubio is opposed to sending American troops into Iran and fears a protracted entanglement, while Hegseth is… pic.twitter.com/yUoPRWd3BY

— AF Post (@AFpost) March 5, 2026

I didnt see this coming but I'm actually siding with lil Marco here.

muddybrazos said:

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War Secretary Pete Hegseth and State Secretary Marco Rubio are reportedly “at each other’s throats” over deploying US troops to Iran.

According to a source for MEE, Rubio is opposed to sending American troops into Iran and fears a protracted entanglement, while Hegseth is… pic.twitter.com/yUoPRWd3BY

— AF Post (@AFpost) March 5, 2026

I didnt see this coming but I'm actually siding with lil Marco here.

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propaganda piece...ignore it

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18EbHF8xeu/?mibextid=wwXIfr

The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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Too late. They already have them. And nothing could do more to ensure peace and stability in the region than a nuclear capable Israel. It ensures no other country invades them.

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Amid turmoil, Trump to give Saudi Arabia sweet nuclear deal

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/saudi-arabia-nuclear-deal/

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first, those are dissenting opinions on a deal which has not yet been finalized. And it probably won't be until the Iranian situation is resolved.

second, if Iran is allowed to have nuclear weapons, why not Saudi Arabia? Only the worst actors serving as proxies for our rivals can have them? Saudi nukes would ensure better stability in the region that has Iranian nukes, would it not?. For that matter, if North Korea can have nuclear weapons, then how can we not justify letting Japan and/or South Korea also have nuclear weapons? How can we say the world is a better place when the worst actors (Russian & Chinese proxies) can have them but good actors (our allies) cannot?

More to the point....why should the American people bear the burden of nuclear deterrence against all those bad actors? If a rogue nuclear power invades one of our responsible allies, why should the US taxpayer alone bear the risks of nuclear deterrence? Why not let the people actually being invaded take some or all of it on? If Iran invades Saudi Arabia, why should we risk Tampa for Tehran? If NoKo invades SoKo, why should we risk Seattle to save Seoul? That is a pertinent and very sober question that should always be on the table.

the direct question at play here is this: does the Post-WWII nuclear non-proliferation structure still serve our interests? Hard to give it an unqualified yes, given the number of questionable or bad actors who have them. China and Russia did not lift a finger to stop Noko or Iran. They wanted to let us carry that burden, to destabilize our foreign policy with a heavy and thorny problem. So why would we not push back similarly? Yes, the world is less safe when a radical totalitarian regime like NoKo has nuclear weapons, but does the risk double if SoKo gets them, or triple if SoKo and Japan get them? (No.). More to the point, SoKo and Japan having nuclear weapons puts the onus on China, who will not like it. So now we have a better negotiating position. If China doesn't want Japan or SoKo to have nuclear weapons, we could agree so long as NoKo loes theirs. Same for Iran.

We see stability between India and Pakistan, right? A good actor and a bad actor who were both able to circumvent non-proliferation safeguards yet find a responsible balance.

Time to make Russia and China feel the same heat they've been putting on us. If the Saudi deal is as weak as the article suggests, then what you see is the admin doing what I've suggested - giving Saudi a civilian nuclear program that is escapable IF future rogue regimes threaten them.

Gas up 70 cents near me. Jobs report is bad. I don't see an off ramp in Iran.

KaiBear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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War Secretary Pete Hegseth and State Secretary Marco Rubio are reportedly “at each other’s throats” over deploying US troops to Iran.

According to a source for MEE, Rubio is opposed to sending American troops into Iran and fears a protracted entanglement, while Hegseth is… pic.twitter.com/yUoPRWd3BY

— AF Post (@AFpost) March 5, 2026

I didnt see this coming but I'm actually siding with lil Marco here.

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propaganda piece...ignore it

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yes, but the question at hand is valid. At. some. point. there will be a very few boots on the ground to inspect and secure nuclear materials. But ideally that is at invitation of the NEXT Iranian regime. Way too early to start making plans for occupation. (which I am extremely reluctant to do).

The raid concept is enough. We have sent the message that being an adversary of the USA is a terribly bad business model. We can quite easily and totally 'eff you up if you mess with us. So leave us alone and we will leave you alone to engage in as much kleptocracy as you wish. Just don't tread on us. What we don't want to do is move into phase 2 of nation-building, get mired down in local political squabbles that have bubbled along for millennia and become a player in dynamics we cannot control. There's only one outcome to that - we will have to disengage without resolution, thereby ensuring that the legends told over future centuries will be of our failure rather than our success.

Look at Afghanistan. It's a template of deterrence lost. We totally 'effed up the Taliban. We chased Bin Laden across the deserts, up the hills, into the mountains, thru the caves, down the valleys, across the fields, into a city, and up three flights of stairs in a house to fill him with a pound or two of copper jacketed lead. It was demonstration of power and resolve almost unmatched in human history. "You mess with us, there's nowhere to hide. We will never stop until we get you. And we WILL get you." Then, over the next decade, we proceeded to totally cloud that message up with nation-building doomed to fail and make us look weak. We shoulda started the pull-out from Afghanistan the day after we buried bin Laden at sea.

We send a few dozen military advisors at the invitation of the new interim government of Iran, or we don't go at all.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Gas up 70 cents near me. Jobs report is bad. I don't see an off ramp in Iran.

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Three weeks ago I paid $2.19/gal. Today, I can get it for $2.54/gal, a jump of $0.35.

Someone is taking a little extra profit based on the news cycle.

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Gas up 70 cents near me. Jobs report is bad. I don't see an off ramp in Iran.

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Three weeks ago I paid $2.19/gal. Today, I can get it for $2.54/gal, a jump of $0.35.

Someone is taking a little extra profit based on the news cycle.

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I was at 2.49 Wednesday. $3.19 today.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Gas up 70 cents near me. Jobs report is bad. I don't see an off ramp in Iran.

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Three weeks ago I paid $2.19/gal. Today, I can get it for $2.54/gal, a jump of $0.35.

Someone is taking a little extra profit based on the news cycle.

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I was at 2.49 Wednesday. $3.19 today.

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I've not seen $3+. What area of the state?

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Gas up 70 cents near me. Jobs report is bad. I don't see an off ramp in Iran.

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Three weeks ago I paid $2.19/gal. Today, I can get it for $2.54/gal, a jump of $0.35.

Someone is taking a little extra profit based on the news cycle.

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I was at 2.49 Wednesday. $3.19 today.

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I've not seen $3+. What area of the state?

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Dallas

Per Gas Buddy

Houston $2.23 - 2.45
Corpus $2.55-3.19
Brownsville $2.55-3.19
Midland $2.53-3.19
El Paso $2.58-3.19
Abilene 2.64-3.19
San Antonio 2.37-2.79
Austin 2.42-2.89
Dallas 2.54-2.89
Amarillo 2.29-2.99

I was going to look across the entire state but we aren't Rhode Island.

From what I've seen, 3.19 is the ceiling at this time

1 month average gas price chart.

Diesel is higher, and diesel affects everything.

Trump will have sparked a worldwide depression based on energy shortages before this is over.

It looks like you and gas buddy are not in agreement. I would suspect the outskirts and surrounding communities will be higher.

Gas Buddy only reports what consumers report so I'm sure there is some lag time. I also don't expect the residents of more affluent areas to take time to report gas prices

Unlike the last time gas prices spiked, this will be transitory. This board is like the football board during a game. Don't like something on the field, "we're dooooooomed!"

Obviously the stakes are bigger, but there are posters here who are regularly wrong on prognostication when things are not status quo. .The long term security of the US and Europe can be dramatically improved here. Knocking out Iranian backed international terror cells will be a major deal. The only thing that could save Iran is for Russia or China to do something meaningful, not symbolic.

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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It looks like you and gas buddy are not in agreement. I would suspect the outskirts and surrounding communities will be higher.

Gas Buddy only reports what consumers report so I'm sure there is some lag time. I also don't expect the residents of more affluent areas to take time to report gas prices

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That chart is from Gas Buddy. It is the US national average.

What is important is the slope of the line on the right, not the number. As long as this war continues, the line will continue to climb.

2.99-3.19 around me in SC.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Gas up 70 cents near me. Jobs report is bad. I don't see an off ramp in Iran.

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Three weeks ago I paid $2.19/gal. Today, I can get it for $2.54/gal, a jump of $0.35.

Someone is taking a little extra profit based on the news cycle.

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I was at 2.49 Wednesday. $3.19 today.

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$4.19 for 93 octain in South Florida

FLBear5630 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Gas up 70 cents near me. Jobs report is bad. I don't see an off ramp in Iran.

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Three weeks ago I paid $2.19/gal. Today, I can get it for $2.54/gal, a jump of $0.35.

Someone is taking a little extra profit based on the news cycle.

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I was at 2.49 Wednesday. $3.19 today.

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$4.19 for 93 octain in South Florida

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You must have a nice ride to be using that 93 octane. Congrats!

EatMoreSalmon said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Gas up 70 cents near me. Jobs report is bad. I don't see an off ramp in Iran.

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Three weeks ago I paid $2.19/gal. Today, I can get it for $2.54/gal, a jump of $0.35.

Someone is taking a little extra profit based on the news cycle.

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I was at 2.49 Wednesday. $3.19 today.

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$4.19 for 93 octain in South Florida

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You must have a nice ride to be using that 93 octane. Congrats!

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Wife's Miata. My F150 is more tolerant.

FLBear5630 said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Gas up 70 cents near me. Jobs report is bad. I don't see an off ramp in Iran.

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Three weeks ago I paid $2.19/gal. Today, I can get it for $2.54/gal, a jump of $0.35.

Someone is taking a little extra profit based on the news cycle.

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I was at 2.49 Wednesday. $3.19 today.

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$4.19 for 93 octain in South Florida

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You must have a nice ride to be using that 93 octane. Congrats!

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Wife's Miata. My F150 is more tolerant.

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Makes sense.

EatMoreSalmon said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Gas up 70 cents near me. Jobs report is bad. I don't see an off ramp in Iran.

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Three weeks ago I paid $2.19/gal. Today, I can get it for $2.54/gal, a jump of $0.35.

Someone is taking a little extra profit based on the news cycle.

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I was at 2.49 Wednesday. $3.19 today.

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$4.19 for 93 octain in South Florida

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You must have a nice ride to be using that 93 octane. Congrats!

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Wife's Miata. My F150 is more tolerant.

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Makes sense.

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Don't get me wrong, give me a Genesis and I am good too... : )

Former Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz declares that he won’t rule out American boots on the ground in Iran

Every US service member needs to see this to understand who’s calling the shots pic.twitter.com/2HKCOMV7Q5

— Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) March 5, 2026

muddybrazos said:

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Former Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz declares that he won’t rule out American boots on the ground in Iran

Every US service member needs to see this to understand who’s calling the shots pic.twitter.com/2HKCOMV7Q5

— Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) March 5, 2026

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No one is going to publicly rule out US troops on the ground. That would be foolhardy to let Iranian leaders hear that.

FLBear5630 said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Gas up 70 cents near me. Jobs report is bad. I don't see an off ramp in Iran.

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Three weeks ago I paid $2.19/gal. Today, I can get it for $2.54/gal, a jump of $0.35.

Someone is taking a little extra profit based on the news cycle.

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I was at 2.49 Wednesday. $3.19 today.

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$4.19 for 93 octain in South Florida

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You must have a nice ride to be using that 93 octane. Congrats!

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Wife's Miata. My F150 is more tolerant.

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Makes sense.

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Don't get me wrong, give me a Genesis and I am good too... : )

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Genesis is a fantastic car. Gv70 or GV80?

EatMoreSalmon said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Former Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz declares that he won’t rule out American boots on the ground in Iran

Every US service member needs to see this to understand who’s calling the shots pic.twitter.com/2HKCOMV7Q5

— Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) March 5, 2026

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No one is going to publicly rule out US troops on the ground. That would be foolhardy to let Iranian leaders hear that.

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The art of the poker game

Realitybites said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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It looks like you and gas buddy are not in agreement. I would suspect the outskirts and surrounding communities will be higher.

Gas Buddy only reports what consumers report so I'm sure there is some lag time. I also don't expect the residents of more affluent areas to take time to report gas prices

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That chart is from Gas Buddy. It is the US national average.

What is important is the slope of the line on the right, not the number. As long as this war continues, the line will continue to climb.

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It will level out but, at what point? Every Mideast conflict before has always hat fuel prices rise and then level, usually at a price much higher than we'd like.

EatMoreSalmon said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Former Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz declares that he won’t rule out American boots on the ground in Iran

Every US service member needs to see this to understand who’s calling the shots pic.twitter.com/2HKCOMV7Q5

— Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) March 5, 2026

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No one is going to publicly rule out US troops on the ground. That would be foolhardy to let Iranian leaders hear that.

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Iranian leaders already know two things: 1) it would be virtually impossible for the Trump administration to mount a successful ground invasion; and 2) when they start talking seriously about it, it means they're desperate. It may not be to that point yet, but they are preparing us for it.

It is unbleavable, but it is true

IRGC Quds Force commander Esmail Qaani has been confirmed to be safe in Israel as of this morning 🇮🇱

He has now been revealed to have had a pivotal role in the elimination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, Hezbollah leaders Nasrallah and… pic.twitter.com/SlYrJ5IyCm

— Martin (@Martin_Sedi) March 6, 2026

I've no idea if this is true

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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It is unbleavable, but it is true

IRGC Quds Force commander Esmail Qaani has been confirmed to be safe in Israel as of this morning 🇮🇱

He has now been revealed to have had a pivotal role in the elimination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, Hezbollah leaders Nasrallah and… pic.twitter.com/SlYrJ5IyCm

— Martin (@Martin_Sedi) March 6, 2026

I've no idea if this is true

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Per Grok, this is not true

FLBear5630 said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Gas up 70 cents near me. Jobs report is bad. I don't see an off ramp in Iran.

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Three weeks ago I paid $2.19/gal. Today, I can get it for $2.54/gal, a jump of $0.35.

Someone is taking a little extra profit based on the news cycle.

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I was at 2.49 Wednesday. $3.19 today.

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$4.19 for 93 octain in South Florida

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You must have a nice ride to be using that 93 octane. Congrats!

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Wife's Miata. My F150 is more tolerant.

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My electric Ford mustang is justifying its place in the garage.

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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It is unbleavable, but it is true

IRGC Quds Force commander Esmail Qaani has been confirmed to be safe in Israel as of this morning 🇮🇱

He has now been revealed to have had a pivotal role in the elimination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, Hezbollah leaders Nasrallah and… pic.twitter.com/SlYrJ5IyCm

— Martin (@Martin_Sedi) March 6, 2026

I've no idea if this is true

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Per Grok, this is not true

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Grok is just antisemitic

KaiBear said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Per today's White House press briefing: the number of rockets being fired now by the Iranians is down 86% from day 1.

I'm guessing a lot of their launchers and transports have been destroyed.

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Trained personnel killed or wounded.
Spare parts unavailable
Workshops destroyed
Communications off line

Soon Iran will have no other option but to hunker down and plead to Western media outlets to pity their women and children.

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the defeated and vanquished know the terms of surrender...........

- UF

D!

{ sipping coffee }

{ eating donuts }

Go Bears!!

Beat The Zoomies!!!

KaiBear said:

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My electric Ford mustang is justifying its place in the garage.

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As is my Tesla. With the solar on the roof, it's almost like free transportation.