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J.R.
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cowboycwr said:

J.R. said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

What time is JR getting there?

No march here in Bangkok . very zen and peaceful unlike Merca. Wouldn't have attended if in US as not my thing, but I commend the 8M Plus who marched to actively voice their displeasure with Trump and what he has done to ur country. I have asked you repeatedly what it is you do or did that makes you such a freaking expert on most everything. You have yet to address because like many here, you are an effing coward! Keep your head down playing video games in your parents basement, Brah!

Most had no idea why they were out there. Or worse were out there to spread other ideas (like communism)

a little basic world understanding would be helpful. Thailand is further away from communism than the US is there fella. This ain't Ghina. Commie countries do not have the world most visited city (Bangkok) 35M per year. Thailand is the only country in SE that hasn't been ruled by a foreign power, hence it its own magnificent culture.
J.R.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

J.R. said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

JR is fkn unhinged. Reads like a Reddit user.

and you monkey boy...You gonna ask the question I have asked you ad nauseam or are you going to continue to be a effing COWARD? get back to class you punk azz loser (in my best gold Jesus)


Remember when you thought the Fed was created and mentioned in the constitution? Good memories. You are always good for a chuckle. Glad you are here. Keep up the good work.

hey little Tinny, I can admit a mistake. Had that wrong. Remember when you had a JOB and weren't on the goat dole
Not wrong about much else. Keep on MAGAturnd . You and your ilk keep turning the US into a chit hole. Keep worshipping gold Jesus. Keep blowing more chit up Donnie. Good for biz
KaiBear
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BUDOS said:

I don't argue with your selective research.


And this passive aggressive posturing was worth your time and mine…..exactly how ?
Danielsjackson114
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Unhinged
TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

J.R. said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

JR is fkn unhinged. Reads like a Reddit user.

and you monkey boy...You gonna ask the question I have asked you ad nauseam or are you going to continue to be a effing COWARD? get back to class you punk azz loser (in my best gold Jesus)


Remember when you thought the Fed was created and mentioned in the constitution? Good memories. You are always good for a chuckle. Glad you are here. Keep up the good work.

hey little Tinny, I can admit a mistake. Had that wrong. Remember when you had a JOB and weren't on the goat dole
Not wrong about much else. Keep on MAGAturnd . You and your ilk keep turning the US into a chit hole. Keep worshipping gold Jesus. Keep blowing more chit up Donnie. Good for biz

Admitting a mistake is different than showing ignorance of a subject despite claiming to be an expert. You were ignorant and not an expert. You got schooled by the big tin.

As for me, I'm still producing though and adding value to the economy. I'm not quite ready for retirement yet. But when I'm your age and my mind is gone, I am looking forward to settling down a bit like you.
BUDOS
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Repeated research studies indicate that groups on the right of the political spectrum are more violent, although there is some more recent research that violence has been increasing in some groups on the left.
The sources are not difficult to locate if you're interested.
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BUDOS said:

Repeated research studies indicate that groups on the right of the political spectrum are more violent, although there is some more recent research that violence has been increasing in some groups on the left.
The sources are not difficult to locate if you're interested.

I have to say I dispute that claim, and since it's your claim, it's your duty to provide the evidence for it.
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BUDOS said:

Repeated research studies indicate that groups on the right of the political spectrum are more violent, although there is some more recent research that violence has been increasing in some groups on the left.
The sources are not difficult to locate if you're interested.


Which planet or country are you referring to?
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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GrowlTowel said:

BUDOS said:

Repeated research studies indicate that groups on the right of the political spectrum are more violent, although there is some more recent research that violence has been increasing in some groups on the left.
The sources are not difficult to locate if you're interested.


Which planet or country are you referring to?

Betoland, perhaps.
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BUDOS said:

Repeated research studies indicate that groups on the right of the political spectrum are more violent, although there is some more recent research that violence has been increasing in some groups on the left.
The sources are not difficult to locate if you're interested.


This must be worldwide and includes fascist-big government types as to the right. That would also mean that government violence has been left out.

Prove me wrong with a link to these easily found studies of which you speak.
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BUDOS said:

Repeated research studies indicate that groups on the right of the political spectrum are more violent, although there is some more recent research that violence has been increasing in some groups on the left.
The sources are not difficult to locate if you're interested.


You indicated that before without any examples whatsoever.

Now despite the historical record ….you merely repeat your initial, entirely vague assertion once again .

Not remotely worth it.

Welcome to 'ignore'.
Malbec
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KaiBear said:

BUDOS said:

I don't argue with your selective research.


And this passive aggressive posturing was worth your time and mine…..exactly how ?

Textbook Alinsky. The self control issues will make the scene every so often when the sleight of mind isn't working. Dead give away.
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Malbec said:

KaiBear said:

BUDOS said:

I don't argue with your selective research.


And this passive aggressive posturing was worth your time and mine…..exactly how ?

Textbook Alinsky. The self control issues will make the scene every so often when the sleight of mind isn't working. Dead give away.




That's a name I have not heard, or even thought about in decades.

Well done.
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BUDOS said:

Repeated research studies indicate that groups on the right of the political spectrum are more violent, although there is some more recent research that violence has been increasing in some groups on the left.
The sources are not difficult to locate if you're interested.


Probably because left wing violence is often not recorded as such.

(Controlling important sense making institutions like colleges, the media, foundations, and NGOs has its perks)


Also, pretty good case can be make that the right wing is actually far less violent…but far more effective at it when it does commit to such a course






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Left wing violence is


MOSTLY PEACEFUL
william
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J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

J.R. said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

JR is fkn unhinged. Reads like a Reddit user.

and you monkey boy...You gonna ask the question I have asked you ad nauseam or are you going to continue to be a effing COWARD? get back to class you punk azz loser (in my best gold Jesus)


Remember when you thought the Fed was created and mentioned in the constitution? Good memories. You are always good for a chuckle. Glad you are here. Keep up the good work.

hey little Tinny, I can admit a mistake. Had that wrong. Remember when you had a JOB and weren't on the goat dole
Not wrong about much else. Keep on MAGAturnd . You and your ilk keep turning the US into a chit hole. Keep worshipping gold Jesus. Keep blowing more chit up Donnie. Good for biz

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Wars and panics on the stock exchange,
machine gun fire and arson,
bankruptcies, warloans,
starvation, lice, cholera and typhus:
good growing weather for the House of Morgan.

John Dos Passos' U.S.A.
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- el UF

pro ecclesia, pro javelina
cowboycwr
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J.R. said:

cowboycwr said:

J.R. said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

What time is JR getting there?

No march here in Bangkok . very zen and peaceful unlike Merca. Wouldn't have attended if in US as not my thing, but I commend the 8M Plus who marched to actively voice their displeasure with Trump and what he has done to ur country. I have asked you repeatedly what it is you do or did that makes you such a freaking expert on most everything. You have yet to address because like many here, you are an effing coward! Keep your head down playing video games in your parents basement, Brah!

Most had no idea why they were out there. Or worse were out there to spread other ideas (like communism)

a little basic world understanding would be helpful. Thailand is further away from communism than the US is there fella. This ain't Ghina. Commie countries do not have the world most visited city (Bangkok) 35M per year. Thailand is the only country in SE that hasn't been ruled by a foreign power, hence it its own magnificent culture.

You are so hateful and spiteful that you don't even understand what people are talking about.

I was NOT talking about Thailand or Bangkok.

I was talking about the marches here in the US which you were also talking about.

And what do you mean Bangkok has never been ruled by a foreign power? Japan ruled them for several years during WW2.
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Johnny Bear said:

cowboycwr said:

GrowlTowel said:

BUDOS said:

With as many personal, psychological and political issues he has the polls prove he is pretty much an embarrassment to the majority of the country and apparently the majority of the world.


Eats you up that your party is so devoid of ideas that he beats them repeatedly.

Sorry he turned his head.

I despise the Dems but..... Trump's winning is done. The economy is crashing and he/Republicans will get creamed in the midterms.

Lotta time between now and the midterms for things to change and improve (possibly dramatically). Pushing the panic button at this juncture is seriously premature at best.

Not enough time for people to forget him starting a war, the price of gas, the fact that they economy has sucked for his first year plus in office (despite his entire administration saying otherwise), and inflation not going away.

Unless the war stops right now, gas drops and stays low until election day, prices drop quickly and far, and massive pay increases happen then yeah the Repubs are done.

Nothing will change between now and election day in a big enough way for the people to notice.
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BUDOS
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Interesting comment when so many on this forum don't and/or use what at best can be called actual research. Then there is the problem also proven by actual research. Based on the strength of the core beliefs of several of the individuals on this forum they will refuse to change their beliefs.

Personally, it took me several months using research I utilized in my master's thesis thesis , motivated by a professor at Baylor who kept espousing propaganda against conservative organizations and interest groups. I rebelled and did my term research project on The John Birch Society, documenting it out the yahzoo.
Of course he graded it as you might expect, so I appealed it past the trumped up system all the way to Judge McCall. The professor did not like the result.

I really think your request, as reasonable as it might sound under normal conditions, appears a bit biased in this environment.
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BUDOS said:

Oldbear
Interesting comment when so many on this forum don't and/or use what at best can be called actual research. Then there is the problem also proven by actual research. Based on the strength of the core beliefs of several of the individuals on this forum they will refuse to change their beliefs.

Personally, it took me several months using research I utilized in my master's thesis thesis , motivated by a professor at Baylor who kept espousing propaganda against conservative organizations and interest groups. I rebelled and did my term research project on The John Birch Society, documenting it out the yahzoo.
Of course he graded it as you might expect, so I appealed it past the trumped up system all the way to Judge McCall. The professor did not like the result.

I really think your request, as reasonable as it might sound under normal conditions, appears a bit biased in this environment.
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BUDOS, it's actuallly very simple.

You made a claim, so it's your burden to provide the proof for it.

Absent that proof, it's reasonable to reject your claim as unsupported.

It's not at all reasonable to expect someone else to even discuss your claim if you have nothing but opinion for it.
BUDOS
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Sure. Whatever

Analysis: What data shows about political extremist violence
By Art Jipson, The Conversation
By Paul J. Becker, The Conversation
Politics Updated on Sep 22, 2025 10:32 AM EDT Published on Sep 20, 2025 2:48 PM EDT
This article was originally published by The Conversation.
After the Sept. 10, 2025, assassination of conservative political activist Charlie Kirk, President Donald Trump claimed that radical leftist groups foment political violence in the U.S., and "they should be put in jail."
"The radical left causes tremendous violence," he said, asserting that "they seem to do it in a bigger way" than groups on the right.
WATCH: Extremism scholar analyzes influence of rhetoric on political violence
Top presidential adviser Stephen Miller also weighed in after Kirk's killing, saying that left-wing political organizations constitute "a vast domestic terror movement."
"We are going to use every resource we have … throughout this government to identify, disrupt, dismantle and destroy these networks and make America safe again," Miller said.
But policymakers and the public need reliable evidence and actual data to understand the reality of politically motivated violence. From our research on extremism, it's clear that the president's and Miller's assertions about political violence from the left are not based on actual facts.
Based on our own research and a review of related work, we can confidently say that most domestic terrorists in the U.S. are politically on the right, and right-wing attacks account for the vast majority of fatalities from domestic terrorism.

Trump aide Stephen Miller says the administration will go after "a vast domestic terror movement" on the left.

Political violence rising
The understanding of political violence is complicated by differences in definitions and the recent Department of Justice removal of an important government-sponsored study of domestic terrorists.
Political violence in the U.S. has risen in recent months and takes forms that go unrecognized. During the 2024 election cycle, nearly half of all states reported threats against election workers, including social media death threats, intimidation and doxing.
WATCH: Trump conspiracies inspire threats against judges, jurors and election workers
Kirk's assassination illustrates the growing threat. The man charged with the murder, Tyler Robinson, allegedly planned the attack in writing and online.
This follows other politically motivated killings, including the June assassination of Democratic Minnesota state Rep. and former House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband.
These incidents reflect a normalization of political violence. Threats and violence are increasingly treated as acceptable for achieving political goals, posing serious risks to democracy and society.
Defining 'political violence'
This article relies on some of our research on extremism, other academic research, federal reports, academic datasets and other monitoringto assess what is known about political violence.
Support for political violence in the U.S. is spreading from extremist fringes into the mainstream, making violent actions seem normal. Threats can move from online rhetoric to actual violence, posing serious risks to democratic practices.
But different agencies and researchers use different definitions of political violence, making comparisons difficult.
The FBI and Department of Homeland Security define domestic violent extremism as threats involving actual violence. They do not investigate people in the U.S. for constitutionally protected speech, activism or ideological beliefs.
Domestic violent extremism is defined by the FBI and Department of Homeland Security as violence or credible threats of violence intended to influence government policy or intimidate civilians for political or ideological purposes. This general framing, which includes diverse activities under a single category, guides investigations and prosecutions.
Datasets compiled by academic researchers use narrower and more operational definitions. The Global Terrorism Database counts incidents that involve intentional violence with political, social or religious motivation.
These differences mean that the same incident may or may not appear in a dataset, depending on the rules applied.
The FBI and Department of Homeland Securityemphasize that these distinctions are not merely academic. Labeling an event "terrorism" rather than a "hate crime" can change who is responsible for investigating an incident and how many resources they have to investigate it.
For example, a politically motivated shooting might be coded as terrorism in federal reporting, cataloged as political violence by the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project, and prosecuted as homicide or a hate crime at the state level.
Patterns in incidents and fatalities
Despite differences in definitions, several consistent patterns emerge from available evidence.
Politically motivated violence is a small fraction of total violent crime, but its impact is magnified by symbolic targets, timing and media coverage.
In the first half of 2025, 35% of violent eventstracked by University of Maryland researchers targeted U.S. government personnel or facilities more than twice the rate in 2024.
Right-wing extremist violence has been deadlier than left-wing violence in recent years.
READ MORE: How recent political violence in the U.S. fits into 'a long, dark history'
Based on government and independent analyses, right-wing extremist violence has been responsible for the overwhelming majority of fatalities, amounting to approximately 75% to 80% of U.S. domestic terrorism deaths since 2001.
Illustrative cases include the 2015 Charleston church shooting, when white supremacist Dylann Roof killed nine Black parishioners; the 2018 Tree of Life synagogue attack in Pittsburgh, where 11 worshippers were murdered; the 2019 El Paso Walmart massacre, in which an anti-immigrant gunman killed 23 people. The 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, an earlier but still notable example, killed 168 in the deadliest domestic terrorist attack in U.S. history.
By contrast, left-wing extremist incidents, including those tied to anarchist or environmental movements, have made up about 10% to 15% of incidents and less than 5% of fatalities.
Examples include the Animal Liberation Front and Earth Liberation Front arson and vandalism campaigns in the 1990s and 2000s, which were more likely to target property rather than people.
Violence occurred during Seattle May Day protests in 2016, with anarchist groups and other demonstrators clashing with police. The clashes resulted in multiple injuries and arrests. In 2016, five Dallas police officers were murdered by a heavily armed sniper who was targeting white police officers.
Hard to count
There's another reason it's hard to account for and characterize certain kinds of political violence and those who perpetrate it.
The U.S. focuses on prosecuting criminal acts rather than formally designating organizations as terrorist, relying on existing statutes such as conspiracy, weapons violations, RICO provisionsand hate crime laws to pursue individuals for specific acts of violence.
Unlike foreign terrorism, the federal government does not have a mechanism to formally charge an individual with domestic terrorism. That makes it difficult to characterize someone as a domestic terrorist.
The State Department's Foreign Terrorist Organization list applies only to groups outside of the United States. By contrast, U.S. law bars the government from labeling domestic political organizations as terrorist entities because of First Amendment free speech protections.
Rhetoric is not evidence
Without harmonized reporting and uniform definitions, the data will not provide an accurate overview of political violence in the U.S.
But we can make some important conclusions.
Politically motivated violence in the U.S. is rare compared with overall violent crime. Political violence has a disproportionate impact because even rare incidents can amplify fear, influence policy and deepen societal polarization.
Right-wing extremist violence has been more frequent and more lethal than left-wing violence. The number of extremist groups is substantial and skewed toward the right, although a count of organizations does not necessarily reflect incidents of violence.
High-profile political violence often brings heightened rhetoric and pressure for sweeping responses. Yet the empirical record shows that political violence remains concentrated within specific movements and networks rather than spread evenly across the ideological spectrum. Distinguishing between rhetoric and evidence is essential for democracy.
Trump and members of his administration are threatening to target whole organizations and movements and the people who work in them with aggressive legal measures to jail them or scrutinize their favorable tax status. But research shows that the majority of political violence comes from people following right-wing ideologies.




UMD-Led Study Shows Disparities in Violence Among Extremist Groups

First-of-its-kind Look at Left, Right, and Islamist Extremists Explores Similarities, Differences
New research co-led by University of Maryland CCJS Professor Gary LaFree finds that some political extremist groups are more likely to commit violent acts than othersa belief that's been increasingly questioned with the rise of left-wing extremist groups like Antifa, and right-wing extremist groups like the Proud Boys.
"There has been a strong presumption among many that while left-wing and right-wing ideologies vary a great deal in content, they resemble each other in terms of their willingness to use violence to further their political agenda. However, our analysis shows that right-wing actors are significantly more violent than left-wing actors," said LaFree, a professor in the Department of Criminology and Criminal Justice (CCJS) and the founding director of the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START).
Alongside Katarzyna Jasko from Poland's Jagiellonian University, James Piazza from Pennsylvania State University, and Michael H. Becker, a graduate student in public policy at American University, LaFree looked at two datasets containing information about violent acts by left-wing, right-wing and Islamist extremist groups. The researchers believe this to be the first time that acts of violence by these three groups have been directly compared; previously, researchers primarily relied on attitude-based surveys and assessments to predict each group's propensity to commit violence.
Through the first dataset, the Profiles of Individual Radicalization in the United States (PIRUS), the researchers zeroed in on acts of extremism in the United States from 1948-2018. They found nearly no difference between the likelihood of an Islamist extremist and a right-wing extremist committing an act of violence; the probability of a violent act of extremism in the United States being committed by a left-wing extremist was found to be 0.33, 0.61 by a right-wing extremist, and 0.62 by an Islamist extremist.
The second dataset, START's Global Terrorism Database, provided information about violent acts of terrorism from around the world from 1970-2017, with "terrorism" being defined as "the threatened or actual use of illegal force and violence by non-state actors to attain a political, economic, religious, or social goal through fear, coercion, or intimidation." After narrowing down the dataset to only include serious acts committed by people pledging allegiance to a group that can be classified as left-wing, right-wing or Islamist extremistfive or more acts per personthe researchers were left to analyze nearly 72,000 attacks from 523 unique subgroups.
From these global insights, the researchers found that despite similarities observed between right-wing and Islamist extremists in the United States, globally, attacks by Islamist extremists are 131% more likely to result in fatalities than attacks by right-wing extremists. Consistent with findings at the U.S. level, attacks by left-wing extremists are 45% less likely to result in fatalities when compared to attacks by right-wing extremists.
"I think the data suggests that we should be taking right wing domestic terrorism way more seriously than many have done," he said. "The 'Fox News angle' that Antifa is just as dangerous as the Proud Boys just doesn't hold up right now."


Left-Wing Terrorism and Political Violence in the United States: What the Data Tells Us

Table of Contents
1. The Issue
2. Introduction
3. Definitions
4. Left-Wing Terrorism Incidents Are on the Rise
5. What's Causing the Rise in Left-Wing Incidents?
6. Left-Wing Weaknesses
7. Why Have Jihadists and Right-Wing Incidents Fallen?
8. What Is to Be Done?
9. Appendix: What Is Excluded?
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Brief by Daniel Byman and Riley McCabe
Published September 25, 2025
Available Downloads
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* Download the Methodology 523kb

The Issue
In recent years, the United States has seen an increase in the number of left-wing terrorism attacks and plots, although such violence has risen from very low levels and remains much lower than historical levels of violence carried out by right-wing and jihadist attackers. So far, 2025 marks the first time in more than 30 years that left-wing terrorist attacks outnumber those from the violent far right. Despite its decline this year, right-wing terrorism could easily return to previous high levels. It is important to resource counterterrorism efforts against both right- and left-wing terrorism and work with communities to gain their support against extremists. Leaders across the political spectrum must condemn violent extremism of all kinds, denying it legitimacy and reducing its appeal.
Introduction
The tragic killing of political commentator and conservative activist Charlie Kirk has once again put the spotlight on political violence in the United States, with figures on both sides of the political aisle decrying extremism on the other. To understand the danger of political violence today and to find the best solutions for reducing it, it is important to understand the overall threat landscape and how both left- and right-wing violence have evolved and could change in the future.
Our analysis of terrorism trends in the United States shows that, indeed, left-wing violence has risen in the last 10 years, particularly since President Donald Trump's rise to political prominence in 2016, although it has risen from very low levels and remains much lower than historical levels of violence carried out by right-wing and jihadist attackers. More contentious politics in the United States and the expansion of the Make America Great Again (MAGA) movement appear to have reenergized violent left-wing extremists. The left-wing movement as a whole has not returned to its violent heights of the 1960s and 1970s, but the number of terrorist incidents involving left-wing extremists so far this year puts 2025 on pace to be the left's most violent year in more than three decades. Moreover, 2025 marks the first time in more than 30 years that left-wing attacks outnumber those from the far right.
Indeed, the increase in left-wing attacks is particularly noticeable because attacks from right-wing perpetrators have sharply declined in 2025. This decline is striking, and explanations are speculative. One possibility is that many traditional grievances that violent right-wing extremists have espoused in the pastopposition to abortion, hostility to immigration, and suspicions of government agencies, among othersare now embraced by President Trump and his administration.
Similarly, jihadist attacks have declined in frequency since their peak in the 2010s, owing largely to the destruction of major groups like al Qaeda and the Islamic State and the subsequent decline in the power of the jihadist ideology to inspire attackers.
Left-wing attacks are remarkably less lethal overall than jihadist or right-wing attacks. However, even incidents that do not result in mass casualties can still have significant impact. Fortunately, many left-wing attackers (though not all) have demonstrated limited skill in carrying out violence, and the movement is disorganized, with little formal coordination.
The rise in left-wing attacks merits increased attention, but the fall in right-wing attacks is probably temporary, and it too requires a government response. In any case, many of the prescriptions for fighting terrorism effectively apply to violence from both the left and right. These include ensuring proper counterterrorism resourcing, avoiding overreactions, and having leadership unequivocally condemn such attacks.
The remainder of this brief is divided into six sections. First, terms such as "left-wing" and "terrorism" are defined. Second, trends in left-wing terrorism in the United States are analyzed, with an emphasis on the increase in the number of incidents since 2016. Third, the causes of the rise of left-wing incidents are assessed. Fourth, weaknesses that limit the impact of left-wing terrorism are examined. Fifth, possible reasons for the decline in right-wing and jihadist terrorism are discussed. The sixth and final section discusses several policy implications that can help combat violence from perpetrators across the political spectrum.
Definitions
This analysis defines terrorism as the deliberate use or threat of premeditated violence by nonstate actors with the intent to achieve political goals by creating a broad psychological impact. Using this definition, CSIS researchers compiled and analyzed a dataset of 750 terrorist attacks and plots in the United States between January 1, 1994, and July 4, 2025. The dataset includes information such as incident date, location, target and location type, weapon used, and victim fatalities, as well as perpetrator age, sex, ideology, group affiliation, and current or former affiliation with the military or law enforcement. A full methodology and codebook for the dataset is available at CSIS.org.
This brief defines left-wing terrorism as that which is motivated by an opposition to capitalism, imperialism, or colonialism; black nationalism; support for LGBTQ+ rights; support for environmental causes or animal rights; adherence to pro-communist, pro-socialist beliefs or "anti-fascist" rhetoric; opposition to government authority under the belief it is a tool of oppression responsible for social injustices; support for decentralized political and social systems, such as anarchism; or partisan extremism, where violence is justified against political opponents and parties perceived as advancing right-wing agendas.
Right-wing terrorism as used in this analysis includes incidents motivated by ideas of racial or ethnic supremacy; opposition to government authority, believing it is tyrannical and illegitimate; misogyny, including incels; hatred based on sexuality or gender identity; belief in the QAnon conspiracy theory; opposition to abortion; or partisan extremism, where violence is justified against political opponents and parties perceived as advancing left-wing agendas.
Note that terms such as "left-wing terrorism" and "right-wing terrorism" as used in this brief do not correspond to mainstream political parties in the United States, such as the Democratic and Republican parties, nor do they correspond to the overwhelming majority of political liberals and conservatives in the United States.
In many cases, clear ideological categorization of perpetrators is difficult. Former FBI Director Christopher Wray once referred to a "salad bar of ideologies," where perpetrators of violence choose among an array of causes, many of which do not align with a traditional right-left dichotomy or other easy ideological classification.1 In other cases, perpetrators may not have political motives despite their targets. For example, Thomas Crooks, who tried to assassinate then-candidate Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, in July 2024, reportedly searched online before his attack for locations where both Trump and then-President Joe Biden would be publicly speaking. While it is possible Crooks had political motives, FBI reports and journalist investigations suggest the explanation was more likely a mix of personal issues.2

Left-Wing Terrorism Incidents Are on the Rise
The first half of 2025 was marked by an increase in left-wing terrorist attacks and plots in the United States, which continues a trend noticeable over the last decade. In absolute terms, left-wing incidents are on track in 2025 to reach historically high levels in the last 30 years.
From 1994 through 2000, there was an average of 0.6 left-wing incidents annually; in the following decade, that figure doubled to 1.3 a year. Numbers began to grow substantially, however, in 2016, and from 2016 to 2024, they averaged 4.0 a year. Through July 4, 2025 (thus excluding the Kirk attack), there were five left-wing attacks or plots, which sets a trajectory for a record-breaking year in the last 30 years.

This elevated number of left-wing incidents is even more striking when compared with the number of incidents classified under other ideological orientations. Left-wing terrorist attacks and plots as a percentage of all terrorist attacks and plots were at a record high in the first half 2025, although the decline of other forms of terrorism plays a significant role in this relative increase.

Indeed, a dramatic decline in right-wing incidents in 2025 has contributed significantly to the relative increase in left-wing incidents. So far, 2025 is the first year in the CSIS data where the number of left-wing incidents is greater than the number of right-wing ones.


Though the number of left-wing terrorist attacks and plots is experiencing a rise, the effectiveness of perpetrators typically remains limited. Although left-wing perpetrators often carry out their plans, they rarely do so with deadly effect. Two metrics illustrate this dynamic.
First, a large share of left-wing plots succeed in becoming actual attacks. In 2025, of five left-wing incidents that occurred before July 4, four were attacks carried out and only one was a disrupted plot. This continues a long-standing pattern. As shown in Figure 5, the number of left-wing attacks carried out is typically much greater than the number of plots disrupted. This trend is mirrored in right-wing and ethnonationalist incidents and is likely influenced by bias in data collection. That is, incomplete public information means disrupted plots are likely undercounted.
By contrast, jihadist incidents exhibit the opposite pattern. Disrupted plots are far more common than successful attacks, probably a reflection of decades of intense intelligence and law enforcement focus on jihadist activity after 9/11, as well as the far greater media publicity given to disrupted jihadist attacks, which enables greater data collection.

The fact that left-wing plots so often result in completed attacks elevates the significance of the recent rise in incidents because it indicates that the recent increase is likely to translate into realized violence.
Second, despite the rise in the number of left-wing incidents and the likelihood that such incidents involve realized violence, the lethality of left-wing attacks remains very low. Left-wing attacks are overwhelmingly non-lethal and far less lethal compared with other ideological orientations. Since 2020, only two fatalities have resulted from left-wing terrorist attacks in the United States: Luigi Mangione's assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York City in December 2024 and Michael Reinoehl's fatal shooting of right-wing protester Aaron Danielson in Portland, Oregon, in August 2020 (if the Kirk killing is included, as seems likely, it would be a third fatality). Right-wing and jihadist attacks, by contrast, have caused far higher fatalities.
In the past decade, despite the increase in the number of left-wing incidents, left-wing attacks have killed 13 victims, compared with 112 and 82 victims for right-wing and jihadist attacks, respectively. Some of the key factors driving these dramatic discrepancies are explored in a later section of this brief.
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What's Causing the Rise in Left-Wing Incidents?
The increase in left-wing incidents in the past decade is driven by plots and attacks directed at government and law enforcement targets. Of the 41 left-wing incidents since 2016, anti-government extremism motivated 17 of them, and partisan extremism motivated another 11. All left-wing attacks through July 4, 2025, appeared to be motivated by one of these ideologies, and the Kirk killing fits this pattern, although details about Kirk's alleged killer are still emerging.3
The only significant break from this trend was a surge of six left-wing firebombings against pro-life targets (pregnancy crisis centers and the office of an anti-abortion group) in the summer of 2022 around the time of the overturning of Roe v. Wade. These attacks were intentionally perpetrated at night against unoccupied buildings to reduce (though not eliminate) the risk to people.
To understand rising left-wing violence, it is useful to distinguish between partisan extremism and anti-government extremism.
Partisan extremism includes attacks and plots against elected officials, political candidates, political party officials, and political staff and workers from terrorists with opposing political views. For example, on January 28, 2025, U.S. Capitol Police arrested Riley Jane English, a 24-year-old from Massachusetts, on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., after she approached officers and revealed she was carrying a folding knife, two Molotov cocktails, and a lighter. According to prosecutors, English said she intended to kill senior U.S. officials, initially identifying Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, whom she described as a "Nazi," before shifting her focus to House Speaker Mike Johnson and then to Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent. She also expressed a desire to attack the conservative Heritage Foundation.4
In a separate incident on March 30, 2025, an assailant set fire to the headquarters of the Republican Party of New Mexico in Albuquerque, igniting the entrance late at night. Graffiti reading "ICE = KKK" was spray-painted on a wall near the site.5
Attacks such as English's plot to assassinate senior officials and the arson of the Republican Party's New Mexico headquarters reflects the most severe effects of polarization in the United States. A variety of survey data underscores that this issue is widespread and worsening. In 2016, fewer than half of Republicans or Democrats described the opposing side as immoral, dishonest, or unintelligent. By 2022, however, most Republicans described Democrats as immoral (72 percent), dishonest (63 percent), and unintelligent (70 percent), while most Democrats said the same of Republicans (64 percent, 61 percent, and 52 percent, respectively).6
Similarly, while less than 4 percent of Americans express support for partisan violence such as assault, arson, or murder, both sides greatly overestimate their opponent's willingness to endorse such actions, with Democrats believing 45.5 percent of Republicans support partisan murder, and Republicans believing that 42 percent of Democrats do.7
Although the vast majority of Americans would never commit partisan violence and oppose it, widespread polarization and misperceptions that the other side is far more violent than it actually is creates a dangerous environment where extremists can more easily rationalize using violence. Growth in even a tiny minority who are willing to commit partisan violence has the potential for tremendous consequences considering the combustible political climate in the United States and the fact that symbolic and strategically important political leaders are among the potential targets.
In addition to partisan extremism, anti-government extremism has also become more pronounced as a motive for left-wing attacks in 2025, particularly around the issue of immigration.
In one incident on July 4, 2025, a group attacked the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Prairieland Detention Facility in Alvarado, Texas. According to federal prosecutors and law enforcement statements, approximately a dozen individuals dressed in black clothing and equipped with tactical gear initiated the attack by detonating fireworks and spray-painting anti-ICE graffiti on vehicles and structures outside the facility.8 When an Alvarado police officer responded to the scene, an assailant positioned in a nearby wooded area opened fire, wounding the officer in the neck.9Meanwhile, another individual reportedly fired 20 to 30 live rounds at unarmed ICE correctional officers outside the facility.10 Law enforcement subsequently apprehended 14 suspects, who now face federal charges including attempted murder of federal officers and firearm-related offenses.11 Searches uncovered AR-style rifles, a pistol, body armor, two-way radios, spray paint, and flyers with anti-ICE slogans.12 One of the alleged attackers stored cellphones inside Faraday bags, which are used to block signals and indicate premeditated efforts to evade law enforcement tracking.13
Traditionally, anti-government extremism refers to violence aimed at state institutions viewed as illegitimate or oppressive, whereas partisan extremism targets specific political figures or individuals based on party affiliation. As events such as the Prairieland ICE attack suggest, left-wing opposition to the Trump administration in 2025 often manifests as both: rejecting its political leadership and resisting its efforts to expand the authority of military and law enforcement institutions. Together, partisan and anti-government extremism help explain why 2025 has seen an escalation of left-wing violence, as opposition to the Trump administration fuels attacks against both its political leadership and the state institutions that carry out its agenda.
Left-Wing Weaknesses
Despite the rise in the number of left-wing terrorist incidents, there exist several characteristics and conditions that limit the scale and sophistication of attacks. The overall low lethality rates in left-wing attacks are probably attributable to several factors, including target selection, target scope, tactical methods employed, low levels of perpetrator skill, and counterterrorism measures.
First, left-wing perpetrators typically select targets that limit opportunities for mass killing. In the past decade, left-wing attacks most commonly occurred at government or law enforcement facilities. These locations are often protected by physical fortifications and security personnel, making it more difficult for perpetrators to kill targets during an attack. For example, in the July 2025 attack on ICE's Prairieland Detention Facility, one police officer was wounded before additional law enforcement forced the attackers to flee.14 The attackers' choice of a hardened federal compound with security personnel on site contributed to the attack's failure to kill any victims. This contrasts with jihadist attacks, which most commonly target crowded public areas with limited or no security measures, such as the car ramming attack on Bourbon Street in New Orleans on January 1, 2025, that killed 14 victims.
Second, left-wing violence is often narrowly directed at specific individuals rather than indiscriminate killings of civilians. Most notably, 10 of the 13 victim fatalities from left-wing attacks in the past decade have been police officers ambushed in public areas by attackers using firearms. This pattern underscores that even the deadliest left-wing attacks have tended to focus on targeted confrontations with law enforcement rather than mass-casualty events.
Third, left-wing perpetrators frequently employ tactical methods poorly suited to producing mass casualties. In the past decade, 20 of 35 left-wing attacks have involved the use of incendiaries or arson as the primary weapon. Incendiaries and acts of arson typically lack precision, resulting in damage that can be severe but not necessarily lethal. In some cases, the arson was done at night, which further reduced the likelihood of fatalities because the targets were often sites that were largely unoccupied.
Taken together, the typical target selection, scope, and weapon selection of left-wing attackers reflect an intent to signal opposition or cause disruption rather than inflict mass casualties.
Fourth, left-wing perpetrators frequently lack the weapons and tactical training to maximize their impact. For example, on February 14, 2022, Quintez Brown, a 21-year-old black nationalist, entered the Louisville campaign office of Democratic mayoral candidate Craig Greenberg with a 9 mm pistol. Prosecutors argued that Brown saw himself as an "equalizer" striking at a symbol of gentrification and oppression.15 Despite firing multiple rounds at point-blank range, Brown missed his target, with one bullet only grazing Greenberg's sweater.
Fifth, unlike many foreign terrorist organizations with centralized leadership, funding, and training infrastructures, left-wing terrorists, like most terrorist actors in the United States, operate as loosely affiliated networks or as lone individuals, limiting their ability to train and to plan and execute complex operations. Social and technological factors, including online radicalization, often result in isolated actors lacking the resources, expertise, or coordination needed for sophisticated attacks.
The lack of organization also creates a multiplicity of competing goals that hinders strategic effectiveness. Like their right-wing counterparts, left-wing terrorists are against many things, and there is no clear prioritization of targets within the movement. Similarly, they are unable to calibrate violence, making it more likely to backfire.
Sixth and finally, U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies have developed robust counterterrorism measures, particularly since 9/11, that disrupt plots and largely deter large-scale attack planning across all ideologies. Legal restrictions, such as controls on explosives and surveillance of known extremist networks, further constrain terrorist operational capacity. Social media, in addition to enabling radicalization, also hinders operational security, revealing intentions and possible actions of individuals who, in the past, might have remained undetected. Combined, these dynamics help ensure that, while the threat of terrorism remains, the capacity of all U.S.-based terrorist movements to execute attacks is significantly diminished.
Why Have Jihadists and Right-Wing Incidents Fallen?
Explaining non-events, such as why attacks from rival ideological groups and individuals have fallen, is always difficult, but there are several possible reasons for the decline in jihadist and right-wing terrorism.
For jihadists, the main foreign terrorist groups in recent yearsal Qaeda and the Islamic Stateare far weaker than they were at their peaks. The United States and its allies have killed group leaders, often leaving them in disarray. Al Qaeda, for example, still has not named a successor since the death of Ayman al-Zawahiri in 2022. The Islamic State likewise has lost numerous leaders, and it no longer has an above-ground caliphate where it can train people. In both cases, the losses have made the group less inspiring, although some bottom-up radicalization remains a concern. Finally, factors like aggressive law enforcement and a U.S. Muslim community that collaborates with law enforcement lead many would-be attackers to be caught in early stages of plotting.16
The sudden decline in right-wing terrorism is both more striking and harder to explain. From 1994 through 2000, there was an average of 21 right-wing attacks or plots each year. In the following decade, right-wing incidents fell to an average of 7 annually. From 2011 through 2024, right-wing incidents climbed back up to an average of 20 a year. In the first half of 2025, however, there was only one right-wing terrorist incident in the United Statesthe killing of Minnesota state legislator Melissa Hortman and her husband in Junea remarkable drop off.
Aggressive law enforcement efforts under former President Biden hurt the right-wing extremist movement, with the January 6 investigation in particular causing disarray.17 The U.S. government brought charges against over 1,000 individuals, including many leaders of groups like the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys. In addition, like left-wing terrorism, right-wing terrorism is highly decentralized, and the vast majority of the most lethal attacks in the last 10 years have been perpetrated by lone actors linked to various networks but not tied to any group.
Trump's election, however, appears to have changed the threat. Although it is impossible to definitively prove the link between the policies of and positions championed in Trump's second term and the decline in right-wing terrorism incidents in the United States, it is probable that at least some extremists do not feel the need to act violently if their concerns are being addressed.
Most notably, the administration has aggressively targeted immigrants, with high-profile efforts to identify, detain, and deport them. Anti-immigrant sentiment is one of the most important violent extremist motivations in recent years. The Trump administration has also warned of "deep state" abuses, criticized and abolished programs involving diversity, promoted some conspiracy theories, and hired individuals who openly embraced white supremacy.18 In addition, Trump's victory temporarily ended many concerns about a Democrat-orchestrated "stolen election," a leading conspiracy that motivated many extremists in the past.19 Enrique Tarrio, the former Proud Boys leader and a convicted seditionist whom Trump pardoned, recently summed up the president's potential psychological effect on the violent far right: "Honestly, what do we have to complain about these days?"20
At the same time, it is important to stress that correlation does not mean direct causation. The administration's rhetoric and policies may overlap with themes found in extremist discourse, but that does not necessarily imply intent to encourage violence. Rather, extremist actors may perceive mainstream political validation of their grievances as reducing the need for independent mobilization or, more concerningly, as tacit endorsement of their worldview in situations where the administration faces resistance or does go far enough in the eyes of an extremist.
What Is to Be Done?
The best responses to the Kirk killing and political violence from any source involve few theatrics but can be highly effective.
First, the government should avoid overreacting with crackdowns on peaceful organizations, which will serve to strengthen extremist views. Radicals will argue that peaceful politics will inevitably fail and that only violence will make a difference. In response to the Kirk killing, President Trump warned that a "radical left group of lunatics" are engaged in a campaign of violence.21Other conservative voices, from members of Congress to online influencers, have similarly claimed that the left is engaged in "war."22 Kirk's shooter appears to have acted alone, but Trump has claimed that a network of political organizations fund and support violence, and must be neutralizeda threat that, if acted on, could lead to government action against an array of non-violent organizations whose political positions were anti-Kirk and are anti-Trump.23 These actions will be counterproductive for combatting terrorist threats.
Second, it is important to resource all dimensions of the terrorism threat. Left-wing terrorism is a Trump administration priority, but jihadist terrorism also remains a concern even though it has declined. Right-wing terrorism could come roaring back, especially if in 2028 there are complaints of a "stolen election" or similar incendiary claims. Developing the programs and expertise to suppress different forms of terrorism takes years, and ignoring a long-term threat to go after a more immediate one could be deadly over time.
Finally, although leaders are not responsible for extremists in their midst, they are responsible for how they behave toward extremists. U.S. political leaders and activists need to lead by condemning violence on their side and calling for calm when it involves violence on the other side. The American Muslim response to jihadist terrorism offers a useful model. Muslim leaders came together to repeatedly condemn jihadist violence, and this reduces the appeal of terrorism.24 When the mainstream condemns an attack, the individual is less likely to be seen, and see themselves, as a hero or successful agitator, and the community as a whole is more likely to work with law enforcement.
Many leading Democrats have vehemently condemned the Kirk shooting.25 For their part, many prominent Republicans also immediately condemned right-wing attacks in recent years, including the assassination of Hortman earlier this year and the attack on Paul Pelosi in 2022.26 But the track record is far from perfect. The celebrations among some on the left of Luigi Mangione is a failure to undermine support for left-wing violence.27Similarly, the failure of some conservative leaders to condemn white supremacists and other violent extremists is a major problem, allowing these extremists to believe they are carrying out the will of a broader political movement.28
Utah Governor Spencer Cox has served as a model in unequivocally denouncing extremists. Cox described Kirk's killing as "an attack on all of us."29 And he offered a simple exhortation that would benefit both sides, particularly in moments like these, when violence can spiral: "Disagree better."30
Daniel Byman is the director of the Warfare, Irregular Threats, and Terrorism Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington, D.C. Riley McCabe is an associate fellow for the Warfare, Irregular Threats, and Terrorism Program at CSIS.






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Groups Over Kirk Rhetoric
The Justice Department quietly removed from its website a study showing far-right
extremists were responsible for the bulk of ideologically motivated deaths a move that
comes as the GOP seeks to back claims from President Trump that the "radical left" poses a
greater danger than the right wing.
The 2024 study, in which several criminal justice researchers reviewed National Institute of
Justice data, found far more instances of deaths credited to right-wing groups.
The study was still available on the Justice Department website last week, but a researcher
on extremism posted on social media that it had been removed in the days after the killing of
right-wing activist Charlie Kirk.
"The number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and
domestic violent extremism," the study says.
"Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides
than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520
lives," the study states.
"In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that
took 78 lives."
The removal of the study was first reported Tuesday by 404 Media, which credited Daniel
Malmer, a Ph.D. student at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill who is studying
extremism, with first noticing the removal of the study Sept. 13.
In a post on social media, Malmer said the study had been visible the day before.
The Justice Department did not respond to request for comment on the removal of the study,
but the page now says the department is "reviewing its websites … in accordance with
recent Executive Orders."
It's not clear which executive orders would require such action.
The Hill has since obtained the original study, which discussing a number of factors
motivating extremists, including further radicalization by connecting with others online.
2/7 "Web forums included discussions about a variety of beliefs, such as gun rights, conspiracy
theories, hate-based sentiments, and anti-government beliefs; however, the intensity of
ideological expression was generally weak. The nature of the online environments that far-
right groups use likely facilitates the diffusion of ideological agendas," it states.
"Users grew more ideological and radical as other users reinforced their ideas and
connected their ideas to those from other forums."
Since Kirk's death, Trump has repeatedly blamed the left when asked about extremism
within fringes of both parties.
"If you look at the problem, the problem is on the left. It's not on the right. Some people like
to say the right the problem we have is on the left," Trump told reporters Sunday. "And
when you look at the agitator, you look at the scum that speaks so badly of our country, the
American flag burnings all over the place, that's the left. That's not the right."
That claim is countered by numerous studies including the one removed from the Justice
Department website.
The FBI in recent years has warned of the risks of domestic violent extremism, including
those motivated by beliefs in fraud related to the 2020 election, racial and ethnic prejudice,
and even COVID-19.
Other recent studies have backed the conclusion that murders by far-right extremists are
more frequent than those perpetrated by the left.
A study by the Cato Institute, a libertarian group, found that since 2020, right-wing extremists
were responsible for more than half of all politically motivated deaths, 44, while left-wing
extremists were responsible for 22 percent, a total of 18 deaths.
Updated at 2 p.m. EDT
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Is it the right or the left that commits more political violence in the USA


Right-wing extremists commit more political violence in the USA than left-wing extremists, with left-wing violence being less frequent and less severe.

Does the right commit more political violence than the left in the USA?
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Does political ideology influence the likelihood of political violence in the USA?


Comparative Findings on Political Violence
* Right vs. Left: Multiple studies using real-world datasets find that individuals and attacks associated with left-wing causes are less likely to be violent compared to those associated with right-wing causes in the United States. Right-wing and Islamist extremists are responsible for more frequent and severe acts of political violence, while left-wing violence is less common and less deadly 1.
* Nature of Violence: The process of radicalization and legitimation of violence can occur across the political spectrum, but the frequency and severity differ. Both far-right and far-left groups may rationalize violence as preemptive self-defense, but right-wing violence has been found to have more harmful social consequences 12.
* Broader Context: Some research suggests that the willingness to use violence is not strictly tied to ideology but can be facilitated by general social and psychological conditions. However, empirical data consistently show higher levels of violence from right-wing actors in the US context 12.
Key Claims & Evidence
Claim Evidence Strength Reasoning Papers
Right-wing extremists commit more political violence than left-wing extremists in the USA Strong Multiple datasets and comparative studies show higher frequency and severity of right-wing violence 12
Both sides can rationalize violence, but left-wing violence is less frequent and less severe Moderate Qualitative and quantitative analyses support this pattern 12
FIGURE 1 Evidence strength for claims about political violence by ideology
Conclusion
Research indicates that right-wing extremists are responsible for more political violence in the USA than left-wing extremists, both in terms of frequency and severity. While both sides can rationalize violence, left-wing violence is less common and less deadly. The findings are robust across multiple datasets and methodologies.
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Danielsjackson114 said:

What time is JR getting there?

No march here in Bangkok . very zen and peaceful unlike Merca. Wouldn't have attended if in US as not my thing, but I commend the 8M Plus who marched to actively voice their displeasure with Trump and what he has done to ur country. I have asked you repeatedly what it is you do or did that makes you such a freaking expert on most everything. You have yet to address because like many here, you are an effing coward! Keep your head down playing video games in your parents basement, Brah!

Most had no idea why they were out there. Or worse were out there to spread other ideas (like communism)

a little basic world understanding would be helpful. Thailand is further away from communism than the US is there fella. This ain't Ghina. Commie countries do not have the world most visited city (Bangkok) 35M per year. Thailand is the only country in SE that hasn't been ruled by a foreign power, hence it its own magnificent culture.

You are so hateful and spiteful that you don't even understand what people are talking about.

I was NOT talking about Thailand or Bangkok.

I was talking about the marches here in the US which you were also talking about.

And what do you mean Bangkok has never been ruled by a foreign power? Japan ruled them for several years during WW2.

so you not ok with marches there MAGA. I think I. may know the history of my home country, there pal.
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Hmm.

First, why no links?

Also, the groups appear at first sight to be, well, leaning a bit in assumptions.



But thanks. it's revealing, in some ways you may not have intended.
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J.R. said:

cowboycwr said:

J.R. said:

cowboycwr said:

J.R. said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

What time is JR getting there?

No march here in Bangkok . very zen and peaceful unlike Merca. Wouldn't have attended if in US as not my thing, but I commend the 8M Plus who marched to actively voice their displeasure with Trump and what he has done to ur country. I have asked you repeatedly what it is you do or did that makes you such a freaking expert on most everything. You have yet to address because like many here, you are an effing coward! Keep your head down playing video games in your parents basement, Brah!

Most had no idea why they were out there. Or worse were out there to spread other ideas (like communism)

a little basic world understanding would be helpful. Thailand is further away from communism than the US is there fella. This ain't Ghina. Commie countries do not have the world most visited city (Bangkok) 35M per year. Thailand is the only country in SE that hasn't been ruled by a foreign power, hence it its own magnificent culture.

You are so hateful and spiteful that you don't even understand what people are talking about.

I was NOT talking about Thailand or Bangkok.

I was talking about the marches here in the US which you were also talking about.

And what do you mean Bangkok has never been ruled by a foreign power? Japan ruled them for several years during WW2.

so you not ok with marches there MAGA. I think I. may know the history of my home country, there pal.


Lol. MAGA??? You clearly don't pay attention if you think I am maga. I criticize Trump all the time. Just today I was talking about how he will lose the midterms for the Republican Party for example.

Again, I was pointing out how the marches here in the US were not just no kings but full of people from lots of other groups. You even talked about it in one of your posts. I responded to that post where you mentioned the marches here in the US.

Then you come back with something about no marches in Thailand and no commies. In a thread about the marches in the US.

As to the history of your country go look it up. Japan invaded and conquered Thailand in 1941. They invaded just hours before the attack on Pearl Harbor but because of the date line it was December 8 there.

Thailand (or at least the puppet government) then joined with the Japanese and were a member of the axis for the rest of the war, declaring war against the US and UK.

During this time Japanese troops were in Thailand and Bangkok.

So please explain how Thailand was not ruled by a foreign power???

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cowboycwr said:

J.R. said:

cowboycwr said:

J.R. said:

cowboycwr said:

J.R. said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

What time is JR getting there?

No march here in Bangkok . very zen and peaceful unlike Merca. Wouldn't have attended if in US as not my thing, but I commend the 8M Plus who marched to actively voice their displeasure with Trump and what he has done to ur country. I have asked you repeatedly what it is you do or did that makes you such a freaking expert on most everything. You have yet to address because like many here, you are an effing coward! Keep your head down playing video games in your parents basement, Brah!

Most had no idea why they were out there. Or worse were out there to spread other ideas (like communism)

a little basic world understanding would be helpful. Thailand is further away from communism than the US is there fella. This ain't Ghina. Commie countries do not have the world most visited city (Bangkok) 35M per year. Thailand is the only country in SE that hasn't been ruled by a foreign power, hence it its own magnificent culture.

You are so hateful and spiteful that you don't even understand what people are talking about.

I was NOT talking about Thailand or Bangkok.

I was talking about the marches here in the US which you were also talking about.

And what do you mean Bangkok has never been ruled by a foreign power? Japan ruled them for several years during WW2.

so you not ok with marches there MAGA. I think I. may know the history of my home country, there pal.


Lol. MAGA??? You clearly don't pay attention if you think I am maga. I criticize Trump all the time. Just today I was talking about how he will lose the midterms for the Republican Party for example.

Again, I was pointing out how the marches here in the US were not just no kings but full of people from lots of other groups. You even talked about it in one of your posts. I responded to that post where you mentioned the marches here in the US.

Then you come back with something about no marches in Thailand and no commies. In a thread about the marches in the US.

As to the history of your country go look it up. Japan invaded and conquered Thailand in 1941. They invaded just hours before the attack on Pearl Harbor but because of the date line it was December 8 there.

Thailand (or at least the puppet government) then joined with the Japanese and were a member of the axis for the rest of the war, declaring war against the US and UK.

During this time Japanese troops were in Thailand and Bangkok.

So please explain how Thailand was not ruled by a foreign power???



Impressive

You are the first individual I have ever known who realizes Thailand declared war against the United States in World War 2.

Due to severe duress inflicted by the Japanese army.
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KaiBear said:

cowboycwr said:

J.R. said:

cowboycwr said:

J.R. said:

cowboycwr said:

J.R. said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

What time is JR getting there?

No march here in Bangkok . very zen and peaceful unlike Merca. Wouldn't have attended if in US as not my thing, but I commend the 8M Plus who marched to actively voice their displeasure with Trump and what he has done to ur country. I have asked you repeatedly what it is you do or did that makes you such a freaking expert on most everything. You have yet to address because like many here, you are an effing coward! Keep your head down playing video games in your parents basement, Brah!

Most had no idea why they were out there. Or worse were out there to spread other ideas (like communism)

a little basic world understanding would be helpful. Thailand is further away from communism than the US is there fella. This ain't Ghina. Commie countries do not have the world most visited city (Bangkok) 35M per year. Thailand is the only country in SE that hasn't been ruled by a foreign power, hence it its own magnificent culture.

You are so hateful and spiteful that you don't even understand what people are talking about.

I was NOT talking about Thailand or Bangkok.

I was talking about the marches here in the US which you were also talking about.

And what do you mean Bangkok has never been ruled by a foreign power? Japan ruled them for several years during WW2.

so you not ok with marches there MAGA. I think I. may know the history of my home country, there pal.


Lol. MAGA??? You clearly don't pay attention if you think I am maga. I criticize Trump all the time. Just today I was talking about how he will lose the midterms for the Republican Party for example.

Again, I was pointing out how the marches here in the US were not just no kings but full of people from lots of other groups. You even talked about it in one of your posts. I responded to that post where you mentioned the marches here in the US.

Then you come back with something about no marches in Thailand and no commies. In a thread about the marches in the US.

As to the history of your country go look it up. Japan invaded and conquered Thailand in 1941. They invaded just hours before the attack on Pearl Harbor but because of the date line it was December 8 there.

Thailand (or at least the puppet government) then joined with the Japanese and were a member of the axis for the rest of the war, declaring war against the US and UK.

During this time Japanese troops were in Thailand and Bangkok.

So please explain how Thailand was not ruled by a foreign power???



Impressive

You are the first individual I have ever known who realizes Thailand declared war against the United States in World War 2.

Due to severe duress inflicted by the Japanese army.


If I could have made money being a history professor or writing books on WW2 I would have done so. WW2 is my passion and I would still like to write a book someday on it.

There are several countries that through puppet governments aligned with the axis and even declared war on the US (or other allies). Although most of them, like Thailand, never amounted to much in terms of their troops actually fighting the allies.

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cowboycwr said:

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J.R. said:

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J.R. said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

What time is JR getting there?

No march here in Bangkok . very zen and peaceful unlike Merca. Wouldn't have attended if in US as not my thing, but I commend the 8M Plus who marched to actively voice their displeasure with Trump and what he has done to ur country. I have asked you repeatedly what it is you do or did that makes you such a freaking expert on most everything. You have yet to address because like many here, you are an effing coward! Keep your head down playing video games in your parents basement, Brah!

Most had no idea why they were out there. Or worse were out there to spread other ideas (like communism)

a little basic world understanding would be helpful. Thailand is further away from communism than the US is there fella. This ain't Ghina. Commie countries do not have the world most visited city (Bangkok) 35M per year. Thailand is the only country in SE that hasn't been ruled by a foreign power, hence it its own magnificent culture.

You are so hateful and spiteful that you don't even understand what people are talking about.

I was NOT talking about Thailand or Bangkok.

I was talking about the marches here in the US which you were also talking about.

And what do you mean Bangkok has never been ruled by a foreign power? Japan ruled them for several years during WW2.

so you not ok with marches there MAGA. I think I. may know the history of my home country, there pal.


Lol. MAGA??? You clearly don't pay attention if you think I am maga. I criticize Trump all the time. Just today I was talking about how he will lose the midterms for the Republican Party for example.

Again, I was pointing out how the marches here in the US were not just no kings but full of people from lots of other groups. You even talked about it in one of your posts. I responded to that post where you mentioned the marches here in the US.

Then you come back with something about no marches in Thailand and no commies. In a thread about the marches in the US.

As to the history of your country go look it up. Japan invaded and conquered Thailand in 1941. They invaded just hours before the attack on Pearl Harbor but because of the date line it was December 8 there.

Thailand (or at least the puppet government) then joined with the Japanese and were a member of the axis for the rest of the war, declaring war against the US and UK.

During this time Japanese troops were in Thailand and Bangkok.

So please explain how Thailand was not ruled by a foreign power???



glad you have hung up your maga boots. I know Thailand history, fella. Only thing left from a brief Japanese stay (they did not rule) is that the Japanese Expats are the largest here in terms of population. They are all working at Japanese companies. Japs are good to do business with as if they tell you something , they commit and their word is good, just like Thais. Chinese....not so much.
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Not representative of liberals. He edited out the sane responses.
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Waco1947 said:

Not representative of liberals. He edited out the sane responses.

How can there be a sane response to why one is at a no kings rally in a country where there is not a king?

Why not just call the rally what it really is - We hate democracy rally?
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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cowboycwr said:

Johnny Bear said:

cowboycwr said:

GrowlTowel said:

BUDOS said:

With as many personal, psychological and political issues he has the polls prove he is pretty much an embarrassment to the majority of the country and apparently the majority of the world.


Eats you up that your party is so devoid of ideas that he beats them repeatedly.

Sorry he turned his head.

I despise the Dems but..... Trump's winning is done. The economy is crashing and he/Republicans will get creamed in the midterms.

Lotta time between now and the midterms for things to change and improve (possibly dramatically). Pushing the panic button at this juncture is seriously premature at best.

Not enough time for people to forget him starting a war, the price of gas, the fact that they economy has sucked for his first year plus in office (despite his entire administration saying otherwise), and inflation not going away.

Unless the war stops right now, gas drops and stays low until election day, prices drop quickly and far, and massive pay increases happen then yeah the Repubs are done.

Nothing will change between now and election day in a big enough way for the people to notice.

Sure there is time between now and when most of the voters even start realizing the midterms are this year for the war to end, for oil to drop back into the $70's or even lower, and for the impact of the BBB to positively impact the economy. Seven months is a long time - politically speaking. And it's not true that at least certain major aspects of inflation weren't brought under control (obviously energy as one example) during Trump's first year before the action in Iran that will likely be ending within the next weeks at most. And let's not forget other major accomplishments like the border being shut down and international respect and strength being restored from the utter disasters those were under dementia's Joe and his clown show.

Hang in there. At a minimum there IS still time - at least as things stand today.
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Oldbear ,
You didn't express the need. They are available, and come from a mixture of academic and media sources, most from the findings of research conducted within the last few months, especially those indicting the spike in a certain segment on the left.
The other comments were not unexpected.
The last one is a bit vague but as I noted, not unexpected.
To me whichever end of the spectrum is more violent than the other and attempting to imply by some that it is the other so my side is the good side is "interesting."
As a moderate conservative I was attempting to point out that both sides were guilty, with the ideological left apparently taking the current lead.
So I am unsure as to your vague reference in your last comment.
And as you might have observed, the responses seem to suggest a vague response as well; however there are multiple reasons for such.
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J.R. said:

cowboycwr said:

J.R. said:

cowboycwr said:

J.R. said:

cowboycwr said:

J.R. said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

What time is JR getting there?

No march here in Bangkok . very zen and peaceful unlike Merca. Wouldn't have attended if in US as not my thing, but I commend the 8M Plus who marched to actively voice their displeasure with Trump and what he has done to ur country. I have asked you repeatedly what it is you do or did that makes you such a freaking expert on most everything. You have yet to address because like many here, you are an effing coward! Keep your head down playing video games in your parents basement, Brah!

Most had no idea why they were out there. Or worse were out there to spread other ideas (like communism)

a little basic world understanding would be helpful. Thailand is further away from communism than the US is there fella. This ain't Ghina. Commie countries do not have the world most visited city (Bangkok) 35M per year. Thailand is the only country in SE that hasn't been ruled by a foreign power, hence it its own magnificent culture.

You are so hateful and spiteful that you don't even understand what people are talking about.

I was NOT talking about Thailand or Bangkok.

I was talking about the marches here in the US which you were also talking about.

And what do you mean Bangkok has never been ruled by a foreign power? Japan ruled them for several years during WW2.

so you not ok with marches there MAGA. I think I. may know the history of my home country, there pal.


Lol. MAGA??? You clearly don't pay attention if you think I am maga. I criticize Trump all the time. Just today I was talking about how he will lose the midterms for the Republican Party for example.

Again, I was pointing out how the marches here in the US were not just no kings but full of people from lots of other groups. You even talked about it in one of your posts. I responded to that post where you mentioned the marches here in the US.

Then you come back with something about no marches in Thailand and no commies. In a thread about the marches in the US.

As to the history of your country go look it up. Japan invaded and conquered Thailand in 1941. They invaded just hours before the attack on Pearl Harbor but because of the date line it was December 8 there.

Thailand (or at least the puppet government) then joined with the Japanese and were a member of the axis for the rest of the war, declaring war against the US and UK.

During this time Japanese troops were in Thailand and Bangkok.

So please explain how Thailand was not ruled by a foreign power???



glad you have hung up your maga boots. I know Thailand history, fella. Only thing left from a brief Japanese stay (they did not rule) is that the Japanese Expats are the largest here in terms of population. They are all working at Japanese companies. Japs are good to do business with as if they tell you something , they commit and their word is good, just like Thais. Chinese....not so much.

LOL. Clearly you do not know Thailand history fella. Adding insults into every post does not make you right.

The Japanese ABSOLUTELY did rule. They were in charge. They had a puppet government that they let play like they were in charge and running the country. To act differently is ignoring history.

You made a claim that is 100% false and are now trying to bend the definitions of words to make you be right instead of just admitting you are wrong.

If you wanted to claim that Thailand never fell to European rule or never became a European colony then you would be right. But you claimed they have never been ruled by a foreign power when they clearly have for 5 years during WW2.
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Johnny Bear said:

cowboycwr said:

Johnny Bear said:

cowboycwr said:

GrowlTowel said:

BUDOS said:

With as many personal, psychological and political issues he has the polls prove he is pretty much an embarrassment to the majority of the country and apparently the majority of the world.


Eats you up that your party is so devoid of ideas that he beats them repeatedly.

Sorry he turned his head.

I despise the Dems but..... Trump's winning is done. The economy is crashing and he/Republicans will get creamed in the midterms.

Lotta time between now and the midterms for things to change and improve (possibly dramatically). Pushing the panic button at this juncture is seriously premature at best.

Not enough time for people to forget him starting a war, the price of gas, the fact that they economy has sucked for his first year plus in office (despite his entire administration saying otherwise), and inflation not going away.

Unless the war stops right now, gas drops and stays low until election day, prices drop quickly and far, and massive pay increases happen then yeah the Repubs are done.

Nothing will change between now and election day in a big enough way for the people to notice.

Sure there is time between now and when most of the voters even start realizing the midterms are this year for the war to end, for oil to drop back into the $70's or even lower, and for the impact of the BBB to positively impact the economy. Seven months is a long time - politically speaking. And it's not true that at least certain major aspects of inflation weren't brought under control (obviously energy as one example) during Trump's first year before the action in Iran that will likely be ending within the next weeks at most. And let's not forget other major accomplishments like the border being shut down and international respect and strength being restored from the utter disasters those were under dementia's Joe and his clown show.

Hang in there. At a minimum there IS still time - at least as things stand today.

LOL. Keep telling yourself that.

There is not enough time. People will not forget how expensive stuff is right now. They will not care about the minimal price changes that happened in his first year. Because that is what it was. Minimal price changes on a few items.

The voters won't care about the border being shut (which I like) but they will remember the idiot protesters that were shot by ICE. They will not care about the international strength and respect because that doesn't put money in their pocket.

They care about money in their pocket. And right now Trump has done NOTHING to change that.

Where are the DOGE checks he promised?

Where is the elimination of income tax like he talked about?

Where are the tariff checks like he promised?

You can hold on to hope but after the elections don't cry too much when I come back and say told you so.
 
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