Fighting the demise of the US

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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

J.R. said:

FLBear5630 said:

J.R. said:

nein51 said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

KaiBear said:

redfish961 said:



I lived in a better world than my stepdaughter will and that is sad.


My parents lived in a better world than I

And I live in a better world than my children will inherit.

The only thing I can do for my grandchildren is leave them as much cash as possible.

After that it will all come down to luck and their choices.

I don't think my parents lived in a better world.

Vietnam, Watergate, Kent st, etc.

I think I grew up in as perfect a world and country as it gets.

I wish it was still the same.

Baseball in the cul de sacs using tennis balls so we didn't break any windows.

Neighborhood football teams that would play each other in the park on saturdays.

Chasing crawdads, snapping turtles, bullfrogs, and fish, while wading in the creeks.

No video games, no cellphones, no spam, no e-mails.

Just hard work and fun.

I lived in a better world than my parents.

Unfortunately, even as much as I try, that life probably will be lost on my doodle because most just doen't live that way anymore.

If I may ask, what generation are you?

1966...I don't put myself in a box, so I don't know what that generation makes me.

All I know is I was too young to understand the bull****, but I sure had a lot of fun.

FYI, my entire family was military.

Grandfather (retired USAF), Grandfather (retired USN), Father (retired USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Aunt (USN), Uncle (USCG), Brother (USMC), and me (US Army).

Granted, I'm biased and didn't live the life most on this board did.

No racism, no woke, not wealthy, but a healthy respect for brotherhood.

I'm quite thankful for that.

Memories over materials all day long.

Thanks, I was thinking you were older for some reason. I grew up pretty much as you describe. Wish my kids had more of those memories.

Well, I probably look older, but it's well deserved.

You are not supposed to arrive at home base fresh and ready.

You are supposed to be skin burnt, scarred, and bleeding.

That means you have lived and not simply existed.

Life was better then.

Technology is great, but it also a bane on society.

I honestly could do without it and I think as a culture we would be better off.

As humans we tend to make things more complex than it needs to be.

Keep things simple and life gets better for everyone.

Live hard, play hard, die young and leave a good looking corpse.

FTR I generally agree with you but your kids will have it better than you did and their kids will have it better. Our time is a speck. The odds are you're typing this on a computer in your hand that send a message to outer space and back in seconds. That, in and of itself, is insane.

The default across time is chaos and war. Not peace. So we have had a relatively large span of time that's out of the norm.

I'll give you an example. I was in the auto repair business forever. Customers used to say things like "back in the good old days" and I would always respond with "you're either too young to remember those days or your memory is no good". You can buy a car right now, put oil and fuel in it and drive for 5-6-7-10 years. In the 1950s-1980s a car with 100k was fit for the scrap heap for the most part. They required constant maintenance and I mean constant. In the 90s my shop was doing 70 cars a day. The average for stores now is in the upper 20s and busy shops are at 35ish. Things get better over time but our memories are better than that reality was.

In any event to the OP; when we started teaching Americans that we aren't the best and most important civilization that ever existed that's a problem. The number of Americans that will **** all over this country but have never spent a day outside her borders is incredible.

Last paragraph is so spot on. Travel is education and understanding different countries/cultures. We ain't got it all figured out as you mentioned. I'm prolly the poster boy for travel. (44 countries)Got to see the world on someone else's nickel. Lived in 2 countries. Now living in 3rd. Starting a business here which is certainly different than the I started in the US. Heck, I'd submit we have tons of great places to visit in the US. Something for everyone.

The most closed-minded people I have met stayed within 50 miles of where they were born.

I don't think travel is enough. Living somewhere else forces you to address differences. A week here or there at an all-inclusive or on a cruise ship really doesn't impact realizing that other cultures have perspectives that may not align with ours and also have value.


I do agree entirely. Living somewhere different is a way different experience. I'm living it. Trying to blend in as much as a Farong (westerner) can. Going to language class 5 days a week. Have had to dial back the American Type A business guy to a much softer approach. I take public transportation everywhere and don't miss a car. When we lived in Paris, we made the kids 13 and 14 take the metro, lived in a neighborhood, no speaking English, no English menus. Great experience. I do think that folks who can't take away and live somewhere else, I highly recommend when traveling, be a traveler , not a tourist. I find value and going to a spot for a week or 2 and taking in the local culture and not hopping about at 100k feet and see only tourist attractions. just my take


At least my view. When you come to FL, we know.

Who gives a **** ?



Well, same that cares about hearing about your perfect kids... So, call it a push.


My kids are doing very well thank you.

But only my daughter is perfect.


Meanwhile no one gives a **** about any of your rather ridiculous notions involving a local's condescending attitude toward tourists.

Especially when it's those same tourists who provide so many employment opportunities.
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FLBear5630 said:

J.R. said:

FLBear5630 said:

J.R. said:

nein51 said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

KaiBear said:

redfish961 said:



I lived in a better world than my stepdaughter will and that is sad.


My parents lived in a better world than I

And I live in a better world than my children will inherit.

The only thing I can do for my grandchildren is leave them as much cash as possible.

After that it will all come down to luck and their choices.

I don't think my parents lived in a better world.

Vietnam, Watergate, Kent st, etc.

I think I grew up in as perfect a world and country as it gets.

I wish it was still the same.

Baseball in the cul de sacs using tennis balls so we didn't break any windows.

Neighborhood football teams that would play each other in the park on saturdays.

Chasing crawdads, snapping turtles, bullfrogs, and fish, while wading in the creeks.

No video games, no cellphones, no spam, no e-mails.

Just hard work and fun.

I lived in a better world than my parents.

Unfortunately, even as much as I try, that life probably will be lost on my doodle because most just doen't live that way anymore.

If I may ask, what generation are you?

1966...I don't put myself in a box, so I don't know what that generation makes me.

All I know is I was too young to understand the bull****, but I sure had a lot of fun.

FYI, my entire family was military.

Grandfather (retired USAF), Grandfather (retired USN), Father (retired USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Aunt (USN), Uncle (USCG), Brother (USMC), and me (US Army).

Granted, I'm biased and didn't live the life most on this board did.

No racism, no woke, not wealthy, but a healthy respect for brotherhood.

I'm quite thankful for that.

Memories over materials all day long.

Thanks, I was thinking you were older for some reason. I grew up pretty much as you describe. Wish my kids had more of those memories.

Well, I probably look older, but it's well deserved.

You are not supposed to arrive at home base fresh and ready.

You are supposed to be skin burnt, scarred, and bleeding.

That means you have lived and not simply existed.

Life was better then.

Technology is great, but it also a bane on society.

I honestly could do without it and I think as a culture we would be better off.

As humans we tend to make things more complex than it needs to be.

Keep things simple and life gets better for everyone.

Live hard, play hard, die young and leave a good looking corpse.

FTR I generally agree with you but your kids will have it better than you did and their kids will have it better. Our time is a speck. The odds are you're typing this on a computer in your hand that send a message to outer space and back in seconds. That, in and of itself, is insane.

The default across time is chaos and war. Not peace. So we have had a relatively large span of time that's out of the norm.

I'll give you an example. I was in the auto repair business forever. Customers used to say things like "back in the good old days" and I would always respond with "you're either too young to remember those days or your memory is no good". You can buy a car right now, put oil and fuel in it and drive for 5-6-7-10 years. In the 1950s-1980s a car with 100k was fit for the scrap heap for the most part. They required constant maintenance and I mean constant. In the 90s my shop was doing 70 cars a day. The average for stores now is in the upper 20s and busy shops are at 35ish. Things get better over time but our memories are better than that reality was.

In any event to the OP; when we started teaching Americans that we aren't the best and most important civilization that ever existed that's a problem. The number of Americans that will **** all over this country but have never spent a day outside her borders is incredible.

Last paragraph is so spot on. Travel is education and understanding different countries/cultures. We ain't got it all figured out as you mentioned. I'm prolly the poster boy for travel. (44 countries)Got to see the world on someone else's nickel. Lived in 2 countries. Now living in 3rd. Starting a business here which is certainly different than the I started in the US. Heck, I'd submit we have tons of great places to visit in the US. Something for everyone.

The most closed-minded people I have met stayed within 50 miles of where they were born.

I don't think travel is enough. Living somewhere else forces you to address differences. A week here or there at an all-inclusive or on a cruise ship really doesn't impact realizing that other cultures have perspectives that may not align with ours and also have value.


I do agree entirely. Living somewhere different is a way different experience. I'm living it. Trying to blend in as much as a Farong (westerner) can. Going to language class 5 days a week. Have had to dial back the American Type A business guy to a much softer approach. I take public transportation everywhere and don't miss a car. When we lived in Paris, we made the kids 13 and 14 take the metro, lived in a neighborhood, no speaking English, no English menus. Great experience. I do think that folks who can't take away and live somewhere else, I highly recommend when traveling, be a traveler , not a tourist. I find value and going to a spot for a week or 2 and taking in the local culture and not hopping about at 100k feet and see only tourist attractions. just my take



As someone that lives in FL. If you are a tourist admit it. People that live there know it! I will never be mistaken for a local in many places There is nothing wrong with being a tourist if you respect the people and land. Ask about the people the lifestyles. Research issues and ask. When I am a tourist i admit it. When i am somewhere as a traveler I fit in. At least my view. When you come to FL, we know.

agreed. It's really simple. As you say, learn, be respectful (no ugly Americans), learn just a couple words if in foreign land. Just go with where you are and soak it up. It all won't be good. Please, Please don't be the ugly Mercan. Whoah you can see them a mile away. When we lived in France, Chino shorts, golf shirt, white sneakers, ball cap, fanny pack. I have seen this one 100 times. Americano dude walks into a cafe/bar and says he wants a beer in straight up English. bartender presents he doesn't speak English, Mercano continues to ask again and again raising his voice each time....like that is gonna work. simple example is learn un bier. I was continually amazed at how many American tourist got so put out cuz French people spoke French, not English (most speak English). Everyone in the world should speak English by god.
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J.R. said:

FLBear5630 said:

J.R. said:

FLBear5630 said:

J.R. said:

nein51 said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

KaiBear said:

redfish961 said:



I lived in a better world than my stepdaughter will and that is sad.


My parents lived in a better world than I

And I live in a better world than my children will inherit.

The only thing I can do for my grandchildren is leave them as much cash as possible.

After that it will all come down to luck and their choices.

I don't think my parents lived in a better world.

Vietnam, Watergate, Kent st, etc.

I think I grew up in as perfect a world and country as it gets.

I wish it was still the same.

Baseball in the cul de sacs using tennis balls so we didn't break any windows.

Neighborhood football teams that would play each other in the park on saturdays.

Chasing crawdads, snapping turtles, bullfrogs, and fish, while wading in the creeks.

No video games, no cellphones, no spam, no e-mails.

Just hard work and fun.

I lived in a better world than my parents.

Unfortunately, even as much as I try, that life probably will be lost on my doodle because most just doen't live that way anymore.

If I may ask, what generation are you?

1966...I don't put myself in a box, so I don't know what that generation makes me.

All I know is I was too young to understand the bull****, but I sure had a lot of fun.

FYI, my entire family was military.

Grandfather (retired USAF), Grandfather (retired USN), Father (retired USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Aunt (USN), Uncle (USCG), Brother (USMC), and me (US Army).

Granted, I'm biased and didn't live the life most on this board did.

No racism, no woke, not wealthy, but a healthy respect for brotherhood.

I'm quite thankful for that.

Memories over materials all day long.

Thanks, I was thinking you were older for some reason. I grew up pretty much as you describe. Wish my kids had more of those memories.

Well, I probably look older, but it's well deserved.

You are not supposed to arrive at home base fresh and ready.

You are supposed to be skin burnt, scarred, and bleeding.

That means you have lived and not simply existed.

Life was better then.

Technology is great, but it also a bane on society.

I honestly could do without it and I think as a culture we would be better off.

As humans we tend to make things more complex than it needs to be.

Keep things simple and life gets better for everyone.

Live hard, play hard, die young and leave a good looking corpse.

FTR I generally agree with you but your kids will have it better than you did and their kids will have it better. Our time is a speck. The odds are you're typing this on a computer in your hand that send a message to outer space and back in seconds. That, in and of itself, is insane.

The default across time is chaos and war. Not peace. So we have had a relatively large span of time that's out of the norm.

I'll give you an example. I was in the auto repair business forever. Customers used to say things like "back in the good old days" and I would always respond with "you're either too young to remember those days or your memory is no good". You can buy a car right now, put oil and fuel in it and drive for 5-6-7-10 years. In the 1950s-1980s a car with 100k was fit for the scrap heap for the most part. They required constant maintenance and I mean constant. In the 90s my shop was doing 70 cars a day. The average for stores now is in the upper 20s and busy shops are at 35ish. Things get better over time but our memories are better than that reality was.

In any event to the OP; when we started teaching Americans that we aren't the best and most important civilization that ever existed that's a problem. The number of Americans that will **** all over this country but have never spent a day outside her borders is incredible.

Last paragraph is so spot on. Travel is education and understanding different countries/cultures. We ain't got it all figured out as you mentioned. I'm prolly the poster boy for travel. (44 countries)Got to see the world on someone else's nickel. Lived in 2 countries. Now living in 3rd. Starting a business here which is certainly different than the I started in the US. Heck, I'd submit we have tons of great places to visit in the US. Something for everyone.

The most closed-minded people I have met stayed within 50 miles of where they were born.

I don't think travel is enough. Living somewhere else forces you to address differences. A week here or there at an all-inclusive or on a cruise ship really doesn't impact realizing that other cultures have perspectives that may not align with ours and also have value.


I do agree entirely. Living somewhere different is a way different experience. I'm living it. Trying to blend in as much as a Farong (westerner) can. Going to language class 5 days a week. Have had to dial back the American Type A business guy to a much softer approach. I take public transportation everywhere and don't miss a car. When we lived in Paris, we made the kids 13 and 14 take the metro, lived in a neighborhood, no speaking English, no English menus. Great experience. I do think that folks who can't take away and live somewhere else, I highly recommend when traveling, be a traveler , not a tourist. I find value and going to a spot for a week or 2 and taking in the local culture and not hopping about at 100k feet and see only tourist attractions. just my take



As someone that lives in FL. If you are a tourist admit it. People that live there know it! I will never be mistaken for a local in many places There is nothing wrong with being a tourist if you respect the people and land. Ask about the people the lifestyles. Research issues and ask. When I am a tourist i admit it. When i am somewhere as a traveler I fit in. At least my view. When you come to FL, we know.

agreed. It's really simple. As you say, learn, be respectful (no ugly Americans), learn just a couple words if in foreign land. Just go with where you are and soak it up. It all won't be good. Please, Please don't be the ugly Mercan. Whoah you can see them a mile away. When we lived in France, Chino shorts, golf shirt, white sneakers, ball cap, fanny pack. I have seen this one 100 times. Americano dude walks into a cafe/bar and says he wants a beer in straight up English. bartender presents he doesn't speak English, Mercano continues to ask again and again raising his voice each time....like that is gonna work. simple example is learn un bier. I was continually amazed at how many American tourist got so put out cuz French people spoke French, not English (most speak English). Everyone in the world should speak English by god.


Hell,a smile and pointing to the tap usually does the trick. Europe has some of the best tap beer, Budapest blew me away with the food and beer. Singapore I drank Tiger, call me average.
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FLBear5630 said:

J.R. said:

FLBear5630 said:

J.R. said:

FLBear5630 said:

J.R. said:

nein51 said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

KaiBear said:

redfish961 said:



I lived in a better world than my stepdaughter will and that is sad.


My parents lived in a better world than I

And I live in a better world than my children will inherit.

The only thing I can do for my grandchildren is leave them as much cash as possible.

After that it will all come down to luck and their choices.

I don't think my parents lived in a better world.

Vietnam, Watergate, Kent st, etc.

I think I grew up in as perfect a world and country as it gets.

I wish it was still the same.

Baseball in the cul de sacs using tennis balls so we didn't break any windows.

Neighborhood football teams that would play each other in the park on saturdays.

Chasing crawdads, snapping turtles, bullfrogs, and fish, while wading in the creeks.

No video games, no cellphones, no spam, no e-mails.

Just hard work and fun.

I lived in a better world than my parents.

Unfortunately, even as much as I try, that life probably will be lost on my doodle because most just doen't live that way anymore.

If I may ask, what generation are you?

1966...I don't put myself in a box, so I don't know what that generation makes me.

All I know is I was too young to understand the bull****, but I sure had a lot of fun.

FYI, my entire family was military.

Grandfather (retired USAF), Grandfather (retired USN), Father (retired USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Aunt (USN), Uncle (USCG), Brother (USMC), and me (US Army).

Granted, I'm biased and didn't live the life most on this board did.

No racism, no woke, not wealthy, but a healthy respect for brotherhood.

I'm quite thankful for that.

Memories over materials all day long.

Thanks, I was thinking you were older for some reason. I grew up pretty much as you describe. Wish my kids had more of those memories.

Well, I probably look older, but it's well deserved.

You are not supposed to arrive at home base fresh and ready.

You are supposed to be skin burnt, scarred, and bleeding.

That means you have lived and not simply existed.

Life was better then.

Technology is great, but it also a bane on society.

I honestly could do without it and I think as a culture we would be better off.

As humans we tend to make things more complex than it needs to be.

Keep things simple and life gets better for everyone.

Live hard, play hard, die young and leave a good looking corpse.

FTR I generally agree with you but your kids will have it better than you did and their kids will have it better. Our time is a speck. The odds are you're typing this on a computer in your hand that send a message to outer space and back in seconds. That, in and of itself, is insane.

The default across time is chaos and war. Not peace. So we have had a relatively large span of time that's out of the norm.

I'll give you an example. I was in the auto repair business forever. Customers used to say things like "back in the good old days" and I would always respond with "you're either too young to remember those days or your memory is no good". You can buy a car right now, put oil and fuel in it and drive for 5-6-7-10 years. In the 1950s-1980s a car with 100k was fit for the scrap heap for the most part. They required constant maintenance and I mean constant. In the 90s my shop was doing 70 cars a day. The average for stores now is in the upper 20s and busy shops are at 35ish. Things get better over time but our memories are better than that reality was.

In any event to the OP; when we started teaching Americans that we aren't the best and most important civilization that ever existed that's a problem. The number of Americans that will **** all over this country but have never spent a day outside her borders is incredible.

Last paragraph is so spot on. Travel is education and understanding different countries/cultures. We ain't got it all figured out as you mentioned. I'm prolly the poster boy for travel. (44 countries)Got to see the world on someone else's nickel. Lived in 2 countries. Now living in 3rd. Starting a business here which is certainly different than the I started in the US. Heck, I'd submit we have tons of great places to visit in the US. Something for everyone.

The most closed-minded people I have met stayed within 50 miles of where they were born.

I don't think travel is enough. Living somewhere else forces you to address differences. A week here or there at an all-inclusive or on a cruise ship really doesn't impact realizing that other cultures have perspectives that may not align with ours and also have value.


I do agree entirely. Living somewhere different is a way different experience. I'm living it. Trying to blend in as much as a Farong (westerner) can. Going to language class 5 days a week. Have had to dial back the American Type A business guy to a much softer approach. I take public transportation everywhere and don't miss a car. When we lived in Paris, we made the kids 13 and 14 take the metro, lived in a neighborhood, no speaking English, no English menus. Great experience. I do think that folks who can't take away and live somewhere else, I highly recommend when traveling, be a traveler , not a tourist. I find value and going to a spot for a week or 2 and taking in the local culture and not hopping about at 100k feet and see only tourist attractions. just my take



As someone that lives in FL. If you are a tourist admit it. People that live there know it! I will never be mistaken for a local in many places There is nothing wrong with being a tourist if you respect the people and land. Ask about the people the lifestyles. Research issues and ask. When I am a tourist i admit it. When i am somewhere as a traveler I fit in. At least my view. When you come to FL, we know.

agreed. It's really simple. As you say, learn, be respectful (no ugly Americans), learn just a couple words if in foreign land. Just go with where you are and soak it up. It all won't be good. Please, Please don't be the ugly Mercan. Whoah you can see them a mile away. When we lived in France, Chino shorts, golf shirt, white sneakers, ball cap, fanny pack. I have seen this one 100 times. Americano dude walks into a cafe/bar and says he wants a beer in straight up English. bartender presents he doesn't speak English, Mercano continues to ask again and again raising his voice each time....like that is gonna work. simple example is learn un bier. I was continually amazed at how many American tourist got so put out cuz French people spoke French, not English (most speak English). Everyone in the world should speak English by god.


Hell,a smile and pointing to the tap usually does the trick. Europe has some of the best tap beer, Budapest blew me away with the food and beer. Singapore I drank Tiger, call me average.

indeed! Belgium huge into beer!
redfish961
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This thread is a good example of having a good discussion.

Differing views in some cases, but civil.

If this board can do it, why can't congress?
J.R.
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redfish961 said:

This thread is a good example of having a good discussion.

Differing views in some cases, but civil.

If this board can do it, why can't congress?

good point Red. just add a note for those in our demo. Had to be home on the bike with my posse when the street lights come on. Suburban America at its finest.
redfish961
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J.R. said:

redfish961 said:

This thread is a good example of having a good discussion.

Differing views in some cases, but civil.

If this board can do it, why can't congress?

good point Red. just add a note for those in our demo. Had to be home on the bike with my posse when the street lights come on. Suburban America at its finest.

Yeah, the dreaded street light rule and we would max it every time, lol.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

The globalists have been working towards "reducing" American dominance across the globe and moving to a multipolar architecture. Our enemies are emboldened, and the Petro dollar at risk. All of our enemies want to reduce our strength and break our economic hold, and the Democrats, and some of you Republicans are willing to go that direction as well. You see the complete destruction the left is trying to bring to traditional America.

Trump is not willing to do that, he is resetting the stage and is trying to make America the dominant unipolar power again - Venezuela, Panama, Suez canal, Greenland, Cuba, Abraham accords, and now Iran.

If you are on the side of Democrats, you have a 99.5% chance of being on the wrong side of things.


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nein51 said:

Mothra said:

nein51 said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

KaiBear said:

redfish961 said:



I lived in a better world than my stepdaughter will and that is sad.


My parents lived in a better world than I

And I live in a better world than my children will inherit.

The only thing I can do for my grandchildren is leave them as much cash as possible.

After that it will all come down to luck and their choices.

I don't think my parents lived in a better world.

Vietnam, Watergate, Kent st, etc.

I think I grew up in as perfect a world and country as it gets.

I wish it was still the same.

Baseball in the cul de sacs using tennis balls so we didn't break any windows.

Neighborhood football teams that would play each other in the park on saturdays.

Chasing crawdads, snapping turtles, bullfrogs, and fish, while wading in the creeks.

No video games, no cellphones, no spam, no e-mails.

Just hard work and fun.

I lived in a better world than my parents.

Unfortunately, even as much as I try, that life probably will be lost on my doodle because most just doen't live that way anymore.

If I may ask, what generation are you?

1966...I don't put myself in a box, so I don't know what that generation makes me.

All I know is I was too young to understand the bull****, but I sure had a lot of fun.

FYI, my entire family was military.

Grandfather (retired USAF), Grandfather (retired USN), Father (retired USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Aunt (USN), Uncle (USCG), Brother (USMC), and me (US Army).

Granted, I'm biased and didn't live the life most on this board did.

No racism, no woke, not wealthy, but a healthy respect for brotherhood.

I'm quite thankful for that.

Memories over materials all day long.

Thanks, I was thinking you were older for some reason. I grew up pretty much as you describe. Wish my kids had more of those memories.

Well, I probably look older, but it's well deserved.

You are not supposed to arrive at home base fresh and ready.

You are supposed to be skin burnt, scarred, and bleeding.

That means you have lived and not simply existed.

Life was better then.

Technology is great, but it also a bane on society.

I honestly could do without it and I think as a culture we would be better off.

As humans we tend to make things more complex than it needs to be.

Keep things simple and life gets better for everyone.

FTR I generally agree with you but your kids will have it better than you did and their kids will have it better.

Likely depends on what your criteria for "better" is. Will life be in some ways easier for them than it was for us, given the current state of technology? Sure. Not sure that is a good thing, however. Medical advances - and AI in particular - will likely lead to the end of a number of diseases. But they likely will not be better off financially, given the gap between salaries and cost of living. They also live in a time where people are on screens all day, rather than interacting with one another. And the filth that is at their finger tips is incredible. And of course AI is a double-edged sword. It giveth and it taketh away, especially jobs.

You're wrong. We live in the best economic times in history and they will only continue to get better. Standards of living are insanely high in this country and where do you think all the boomer/GenX wealth is going? Those people won't live forever.

We are also a MUCH smarter society when it comes to money which will lead to even more wealth for this generation.

I think this is a mistake people make all the time. They take a year or two or three and apply it to a lifetime (this is the entire problem with the climate change folks but I digress some). I have a number of trading accounts. They are all taking a beating right now. Lifetime those accounts have returned a ton.

A lifetime is a long time (for most). It will get better. It always gets better.



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redfish961 said:

J.R. said:

redfish961 said:

This thread is a good example of having a good discussion.

Differing views in some cases, but civil.

If this board can do it, why can't congress?

good point Red. just add a note for those in our demo. Had to be home on the bike with my posse when the street lights come on. Suburban America at its finest.

Yeah, the dreaded street light rule and we would max it every time, lol.


God help you if Dad had to come find you... Different times.
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redfish961 said:

This thread is a good example of having a good discussion.

Differing views in some cases, but civil.

If this board can do it, why can't congress?

Probably because none of us are posturing for a camera so we can post those 5 second clips during our re-election campaigns.

I think there's probably far more people have in common than they don't. It's shame that a chunk of our elected officials have decided their best course of action is to pander to the X crowd; almost certainly because they don't understand that the internet isn't real.
nein51
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The_barBEARian said:

nein51 said:

Mothra said:

nein51 said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

KaiBear said:

redfish961 said:



I lived in a better world than my stepdaughter will and that is sad.


My parents lived in a better world than I

And I live in a better world than my children will inherit.

The only thing I can do for my grandchildren is leave them as much cash as possible.

After that it will all come down to luck and their choices.

I don't think my parents lived in a better world.

Vietnam, Watergate, Kent st, etc.

I think I grew up in as perfect a world and country as it gets.

I wish it was still the same.

Baseball in the cul de sacs using tennis balls so we didn't break any windows.

Neighborhood football teams that would play each other in the park on saturdays.

Chasing crawdads, snapping turtles, bullfrogs, and fish, while wading in the creeks.

No video games, no cellphones, no spam, no e-mails.

Just hard work and fun.

I lived in a better world than my parents.

Unfortunately, even as much as I try, that life probably will be lost on my doodle because most just doen't live that way anymore.

If I may ask, what generation are you?

1966...I don't put myself in a box, so I don't know what that generation makes me.

All I know is I was too young to understand the bull****, but I sure had a lot of fun.

FYI, my entire family was military.

Grandfather (retired USAF), Grandfather (retired USN), Father (retired USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Aunt (USN), Uncle (USCG), Brother (USMC), and me (US Army).

Granted, I'm biased and didn't live the life most on this board did.

No racism, no woke, not wealthy, but a healthy respect for brotherhood.

I'm quite thankful for that.

Memories over materials all day long.

Thanks, I was thinking you were older for some reason. I grew up pretty much as you describe. Wish my kids had more of those memories.

Well, I probably look older, but it's well deserved.

You are not supposed to arrive at home base fresh and ready.

You are supposed to be skin burnt, scarred, and bleeding.

That means you have lived and not simply existed.

Life was better then.

Technology is great, but it also a bane on society.

I honestly could do without it and I think as a culture we would be better off.

As humans we tend to make things more complex than it needs to be.

Keep things simple and life gets better for everyone.

FTR I generally agree with you but your kids will have it better than you did and their kids will have it better.

Likely depends on what your criteria for "better" is. Will life be in some ways easier for them than it was for us, given the current state of technology? Sure. Not sure that is a good thing, however. Medical advances - and AI in particular - will likely lead to the end of a number of diseases. But they likely will not be better off financially, given the gap between salaries and cost of living. They also live in a time where people are on screens all day, rather than interacting with one another. And the filth that is at their finger tips is incredible. And of course AI is a double-edged sword. It giveth and it taketh away, especially jobs.

You're wrong. We live in the best economic times in history and they will only continue to get better. Standards of living are insanely high in this country and where do you think all the boomer/GenX wealth is going? Those people won't live forever.

We are also a MUCH smarter society when it comes to money which will lead to even more wealth for this generation.

I think this is a mistake people make all the time. They take a year or two or three and apply it to a lifetime (this is the entire problem with the climate change folks but I digress some). I have a number of trading accounts. They are all taking a beating right now. Lifetime those accounts have returned a ton.

A lifetime is a long time (for most). It will get better. It always gets better.





Hey look, you found a way to blame the Jews. I, for one, am shocked.

I'm sure all of the Boomers and Gen-X folks will be donating their life savings to Israel rather than their children. Seems like a thing that would happen. "I know you were in my will but I've decided to leave that money to the Jews". Yep, totally plausible.
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nein51 said:

redfish961 said:

This thread is a good example of having a good discussion.

Differing views in some cases, but civil.

If this board can do it, why can't congress?

Probably because none of us are posturing for a camera so we can post those 5 second clips during our re-election campaigns.

I think there's probably far more people have in common than they don't. It's shame that a chunk of our elected officials have decided their best course of action is to pander to the X crowd; almost certainly because they don't understand that the internet isn't real.

I hear you. Even the most Progressive and Right wing MAGA have more in common than not. If they can just focus on the commonality, we can knock out 70% of our problems. Don't worry about the other 30%. I am with Ike.

"People talk about the middle of the road as though it were unacceptable...The middle of the road is all of the usable surface. The extremes, right and left, are in the gutters." - Eisenhower, (1963, Nov. 5)


Too many politicians in the world.
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nein51 said:

The_barBEARian said:

nein51 said:

Mothra said:

nein51 said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

KaiBear said:

redfish961 said:



I lived in a better world than my stepdaughter will and that is sad.


My parents lived in a better world than I

And I live in a better world than my children will inherit.

The only thing I can do for my grandchildren is leave them as much cash as possible.

After that it will all come down to luck and their choices.

I don't think my parents lived in a better world.

Vietnam, Watergate, Kent st, etc.

I think I grew up in as perfect a world and country as it gets.

I wish it was still the same.

Baseball in the cul de sacs using tennis balls so we didn't break any windows.

Neighborhood football teams that would play each other in the park on saturdays.

Chasing crawdads, snapping turtles, bullfrogs, and fish, while wading in the creeks.

No video games, no cellphones, no spam, no e-mails.

Just hard work and fun.

I lived in a better world than my parents.

Unfortunately, even as much as I try, that life probably will be lost on my doodle because most just doen't live that way anymore.

If I may ask, what generation are you?

1966...I don't put myself in a box, so I don't know what that generation makes me.

All I know is I was too young to understand the bull****, but I sure had a lot of fun.

FYI, my entire family was military.

Grandfather (retired USAF), Grandfather (retired USN), Father (retired USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Aunt (USN), Uncle (USCG), Brother (USMC), and me (US Army).

Granted, I'm biased and didn't live the life most on this board did.

No racism, no woke, not wealthy, but a healthy respect for brotherhood.

I'm quite thankful for that.

Memories over materials all day long.

Thanks, I was thinking you were older for some reason. I grew up pretty much as you describe. Wish my kids had more of those memories.

Well, I probably look older, but it's well deserved.

You are not supposed to arrive at home base fresh and ready.

You are supposed to be skin burnt, scarred, and bleeding.

That means you have lived and not simply existed.

Life was better then.

Technology is great, but it also a bane on society.

I honestly could do without it and I think as a culture we would be better off.

As humans we tend to make things more complex than it needs to be.

Keep things simple and life gets better for everyone.

FTR I generally agree with you but your kids will have it better than you did and their kids will have it better.

Likely depends on what your criteria for "better" is. Will life be in some ways easier for them than it was for us, given the current state of technology? Sure. Not sure that is a good thing, however. Medical advances - and AI in particular - will likely lead to the end of a number of diseases. But they likely will not be better off financially, given the gap between salaries and cost of living. They also live in a time where people are on screens all day, rather than interacting with one another. And the filth that is at their finger tips is incredible. And of course AI is a double-edged sword. It giveth and it taketh away, especially jobs.

You're wrong. We live in the best economic times in history and they will only continue to get better. Standards of living are insanely high in this country and where do you think all the boomer/GenX wealth is going? Those people won't live forever.

We are also a MUCH smarter society when it comes to money which will lead to even more wealth for this generation.

I think this is a mistake people make all the time. They take a year or two or three and apply it to a lifetime (this is the entire problem with the climate change folks but I digress some). I have a number of trading accounts. They are all taking a beating right now. Lifetime those accounts have returned a ton.

A lifetime is a long time (for most). It will get better. It always gets better.





Hey look, you found a way to blame the Jews. I, for one, am shocked.

I'm sure all of the Boomers and Gen-X folks will be donating their life savings to Israel rather than their children. Seems like a thing that would happen. "I know you were in my will but I've decided to leave that money to the Jews". Yep, totally plausible.


1) They call inflation the silent tax for a reason.

2) If you have real money there is something called the estate tax.
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The_barBEARian said:

nein51 said:

The_barBEARian said:

nein51 said:

Mothra said:

nein51 said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

KaiBear said:

redfish961 said:



I lived in a better world than my stepdaughter will and that is sad.


My parents lived in a better world than I

And I live in a better world than my children will inherit.

The only thing I can do for my grandchildren is leave them as much cash as possible.

After that it will all come down to luck and their choices.

I don't think my parents lived in a better world.

Vietnam, Watergate, Kent st, etc.

I think I grew up in as perfect a world and country as it gets.

I wish it was still the same.

Baseball in the cul de sacs using tennis balls so we didn't break any windows.

Neighborhood football teams that would play each other in the park on saturdays.

Chasing crawdads, snapping turtles, bullfrogs, and fish, while wading in the creeks.

No video games, no cellphones, no spam, no e-mails.

Just hard work and fun.

I lived in a better world than my parents.

Unfortunately, even as much as I try, that life probably will be lost on my doodle because most just doen't live that way anymore.

If I may ask, what generation are you?

1966...I don't put myself in a box, so I don't know what that generation makes me.

All I know is I was too young to understand the bull****, but I sure had a lot of fun.

FYI, my entire family was military.

Grandfather (retired USAF), Grandfather (retired USN), Father (retired USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Aunt (USN), Uncle (USCG), Brother (USMC), and me (US Army).

Granted, I'm biased and didn't live the life most on this board did.

No racism, no woke, not wealthy, but a healthy respect for brotherhood.

I'm quite thankful for that.

Memories over materials all day long.

Thanks, I was thinking you were older for some reason. I grew up pretty much as you describe. Wish my kids had more of those memories.

Well, I probably look older, but it's well deserved.

You are not supposed to arrive at home base fresh and ready.

You are supposed to be skin burnt, scarred, and bleeding.

That means you have lived and not simply existed.

Life was better then.

Technology is great, but it also a bane on society.

I honestly could do without it and I think as a culture we would be better off.

As humans we tend to make things more complex than it needs to be.

Keep things simple and life gets better for everyone.

FTR I generally agree with you but your kids will have it better than you did and their kids will have it better.

Likely depends on what your criteria for "better" is. Will life be in some ways easier for them than it was for us, given the current state of technology? Sure. Not sure that is a good thing, however. Medical advances - and AI in particular - will likely lead to the end of a number of diseases. But they likely will not be better off financially, given the gap between salaries and cost of living. They also live in a time where people are on screens all day, rather than interacting with one another. And the filth that is at their finger tips is incredible. And of course AI is a double-edged sword. It giveth and it taketh away, especially jobs.

You're wrong. We live in the best economic times in history and they will only continue to get better. Standards of living are insanely high in this country and where do you think all the boomer/GenX wealth is going? Those people won't live forever.

We are also a MUCH smarter society when it comes to money which will lead to even more wealth for this generation.

I think this is a mistake people make all the time. They take a year or two or three and apply it to a lifetime (this is the entire problem with the climate change folks but I digress some). I have a number of trading accounts. They are all taking a beating right now. Lifetime those accounts have returned a ton.

A lifetime is a long time (for most). It will get better. It always gets better.





Hey look, you found a way to blame the Jews. I, for one, am shocked.

I'm sure all of the Boomers and Gen-X folks will be donating their life savings to Israel rather than their children. Seems like a thing that would happen. "I know you were in my will but I've decided to leave that money to the Jews". Yep, totally plausible.


2) If you have real money there is something called the estate tax.

If you have real money, you probably have an attorney to avoid the estate tax.

Of course, that attorney may be Jewish so your theory may still be valid.
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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GrowlTowel said:

The_barBEARian said:

nein51 said:

The_barBEARian said:

nein51 said:

Mothra said:

nein51 said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

KaiBear said:

redfish961 said:



I lived in a better world than my stepdaughter will and that is sad.


My parents lived in a better world than I

And I live in a better world than my children will inherit.

The only thing I can do for my grandchildren is leave them as much cash as possible.

After that it will all come down to luck and their choices.

I don't think my parents lived in a better world.

Vietnam, Watergate, Kent st, etc.

I think I grew up in as perfect a world and country as it gets.

I wish it was still the same.

Baseball in the cul de sacs using tennis balls so we didn't break any windows.

Neighborhood football teams that would play each other in the park on saturdays.

Chasing crawdads, snapping turtles, bullfrogs, and fish, while wading in the creeks.

No video games, no cellphones, no spam, no e-mails.

Just hard work and fun.

I lived in a better world than my parents.

Unfortunately, even as much as I try, that life probably will be lost on my doodle because most just doen't live that way anymore.

If I may ask, what generation are you?

1966...I don't put myself in a box, so I don't know what that generation makes me.

All I know is I was too young to understand the bull****, but I sure had a lot of fun.

FYI, my entire family was military.

Grandfather (retired USAF), Grandfather (retired USN), Father (retired USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Aunt (USN), Uncle (USCG), Brother (USMC), and me (US Army).

Granted, I'm biased and didn't live the life most on this board did.

No racism, no woke, not wealthy, but a healthy respect for brotherhood.

I'm quite thankful for that.

Memories over materials all day long.

Thanks, I was thinking you were older for some reason. I grew up pretty much as you describe. Wish my kids had more of those memories.

Well, I probably look older, but it's well deserved.

You are not supposed to arrive at home base fresh and ready.

You are supposed to be skin burnt, scarred, and bleeding.

That means you have lived and not simply existed.

Life was better then.

Technology is great, but it also a bane on society.

I honestly could do without it and I think as a culture we would be better off.

As humans we tend to make things more complex than it needs to be.

Keep things simple and life gets better for everyone.

FTR I generally agree with you but your kids will have it better than you did and their kids will have it better.

Likely depends on what your criteria for "better" is. Will life be in some ways easier for them than it was for us, given the current state of technology? Sure. Not sure that is a good thing, however. Medical advances - and AI in particular - will likely lead to the end of a number of diseases. But they likely will not be better off financially, given the gap between salaries and cost of living. They also live in a time where people are on screens all day, rather than interacting with one another. And the filth that is at their finger tips is incredible. And of course AI is a double-edged sword. It giveth and it taketh away, especially jobs.

You're wrong. We live in the best economic times in history and they will only continue to get better. Standards of living are insanely high in this country and where do you think all the boomer/GenX wealth is going? Those people won't live forever.

We are also a MUCH smarter society when it comes to money which will lead to even more wealth for this generation.

I think this is a mistake people make all the time. They take a year or two or three and apply it to a lifetime (this is the entire problem with the climate change folks but I digress some). I have a number of trading accounts. They are all taking a beating right now. Lifetime those accounts have returned a ton.

A lifetime is a long time (for most). It will get better. It always gets better.





Hey look, you found a way to blame the Jews. I, for one, am shocked.

I'm sure all of the Boomers and Gen-X folks will be donating their life savings to Israel rather than their children. Seems like a thing that would happen. "I know you were in my will but I've decided to leave that money to the Jews". Yep, totally plausible.


2) If you have real money there is something called the estate tax.

If you have real money, you probably have an attorney to avoid the estate tax.

Of course, that attorney may be Jewish so your theory may still be valid.


Why does the tax exist at all?

I was told by you that the US is not in fact in decline and that we are entering a Golden age.

If that were true such unconstitutional taxes would be abolished.
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nein51 said:

The_barBEARian said:

nein51 said:

Mothra said:

nein51 said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

KaiBear said:

redfish961 said:



I lived in a better world than my stepdaughter will and that is sad.


My parents lived in a better world than I

And I live in a better world than my children will inherit.

The only thing I can do for my grandchildren is leave them as much cash as possible.

After that it will all come down to luck and their choices.

I don't think my parents lived in a better world.

Vietnam, Watergate, Kent st, etc.

I think I grew up in as perfect a world and country as it gets.

I wish it was still the same.

Baseball in the cul de sacs using tennis balls so we didn't break any windows.

Neighborhood football teams that would play each other in the park on saturdays.

Chasing crawdads, snapping turtles, bullfrogs, and fish, while wading in the creeks.

No video games, no cellphones, no spam, no e-mails.

Just hard work and fun.

I lived in a better world than my parents.

Unfortunately, even as much as I try, that life probably will be lost on my doodle because most just doen't live that way anymore.

If I may ask, what generation are you?

1966...I don't put myself in a box, so I don't know what that generation makes me.

All I know is I was too young to understand the bull****, but I sure had a lot of fun.

FYI, my entire family was military.

Grandfather (retired USAF), Grandfather (retired USN), Father (retired USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Aunt (USN), Uncle (USCG), Brother (USMC), and me (US Army).

Granted, I'm biased and didn't live the life most on this board did.

No racism, no woke, not wealthy, but a healthy respect for brotherhood.

I'm quite thankful for that.

Memories over materials all day long.

Thanks, I was thinking you were older for some reason. I grew up pretty much as you describe. Wish my kids had more of those memories.

Well, I probably look older, but it's well deserved.

You are not supposed to arrive at home base fresh and ready.

You are supposed to be skin burnt, scarred, and bleeding.

That means you have lived and not simply existed.

Life was better then.

Technology is great, but it also a bane on society.

I honestly could do without it and I think as a culture we would be better off.

As humans we tend to make things more complex than it needs to be.

Keep things simple and life gets better for everyone.

FTR I generally agree with you but your kids will have it better than you did and their kids will have it better.

Likely depends on what your criteria for "better" is. Will life be in some ways easier for them than it was for us, given the current state of technology? Sure. Not sure that is a good thing, however. Medical advances - and AI in particular - will likely lead to the end of a number of diseases. But they likely will not be better off financially, given the gap between salaries and cost of living. They also live in a time where people are on screens all day, rather than interacting with one another. And the filth that is at their finger tips is incredible. And of course AI is a double-edged sword. It giveth and it taketh away, especially jobs.

You're wrong. We live in the best economic times in history and they will only continue to get better. Standards of living are insanely high in this country and where do you think all the boomer/GenX wealth is going? Those people won't live forever.

We are also a MUCH smarter society when it comes to money which will lead to even more wealth for this generation.

I think this is a mistake people make all the time. They take a year or two or three and apply it to a lifetime (this is the entire problem with the climate change folks but I digress some). I have a number of trading accounts. They are all taking a beating right now. Lifetime those accounts have returned a ton.

A lifetime is a long time (for most). It will get better. It always gets better.





Hey look, you found a way to blame the Jews. I, for one, am shocked.

I'm sure all of the Boomers and Gen-X folks will be donating their life savings to Israel rather than their children. Seems like a thing that would happen. "I know you were in my will but I've decided to leave that money to the Jews". Yep, totally plausible.

Blue star.
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The_barBEARian said:

GrowlTowel said:

The_barBEARian said:

nein51 said:

The_barBEARian said:

nein51 said:

Mothra said:

nein51 said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

KaiBear said:

redfish961 said:



I lived in a better world than my stepdaughter will and that is sad.


My parents lived in a better world than I

And I live in a better world than my children will inherit.

The only thing I can do for my grandchildren is leave them as much cash as possible.

After that it will all come down to luck and their choices.

I don't think my parents lived in a better world.

Vietnam, Watergate, Kent st, etc.

I think I grew up in as perfect a world and country as it gets.

I wish it was still the same.

Baseball in the cul de sacs using tennis balls so we didn't break any windows.

Neighborhood football teams that would play each other in the park on saturdays.

Chasing crawdads, snapping turtles, bullfrogs, and fish, while wading in the creeks.

No video games, no cellphones, no spam, no e-mails.

Just hard work and fun.

I lived in a better world than my parents.

Unfortunately, even as much as I try, that life probably will be lost on my doodle because most just doen't live that way anymore.

If I may ask, what generation are you?

1966...I don't put myself in a box, so I don't know what that generation makes me.

All I know is I was too young to understand the bull****, but I sure had a lot of fun.

FYI, my entire family was military.

Grandfather (retired USAF), Grandfather (retired USN), Father (retired USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Aunt (USN), Uncle (USCG), Brother (USMC), and me (US Army).

Granted, I'm biased and didn't live the life most on this board did.

No racism, no woke, not wealthy, but a healthy respect for brotherhood.

I'm quite thankful for that.

Memories over materials all day long.

Thanks, I was thinking you were older for some reason. I grew up pretty much as you describe. Wish my kids had more of those memories.

Well, I probably look older, but it's well deserved.

You are not supposed to arrive at home base fresh and ready.

You are supposed to be skin burnt, scarred, and bleeding.

That means you have lived and not simply existed.

Life was better then.

Technology is great, but it also a bane on society.

I honestly could do without it and I think as a culture we would be better off.

As humans we tend to make things more complex than it needs to be.

Keep things simple and life gets better for everyone.

FTR I generally agree with you but your kids will have it better than you did and their kids will have it better.

Likely depends on what your criteria for "better" is. Will life be in some ways easier for them than it was for us, given the current state of technology? Sure. Not sure that is a good thing, however. Medical advances - and AI in particular - will likely lead to the end of a number of diseases. But they likely will not be better off financially, given the gap between salaries and cost of living. They also live in a time where people are on screens all day, rather than interacting with one another. And the filth that is at their finger tips is incredible. And of course AI is a double-edged sword. It giveth and it taketh away, especially jobs.

You're wrong. We live in the best economic times in history and they will only continue to get better. Standards of living are insanely high in this country and where do you think all the boomer/GenX wealth is going? Those people won't live forever.

We are also a MUCH smarter society when it comes to money which will lead to even more wealth for this generation.

I think this is a mistake people make all the time. They take a year or two or three and apply it to a lifetime (this is the entire problem with the climate change folks but I digress some). I have a number of trading accounts. They are all taking a beating right now. Lifetime those accounts have returned a ton.

A lifetime is a long time (for most). It will get better. It always gets better.





Hey look, you found a way to blame the Jews. I, for one, am shocked.

I'm sure all of the Boomers and Gen-X folks will be donating their life savings to Israel rather than their children. Seems like a thing that would happen. "I know you were in my will but I've decided to leave that money to the Jews". Yep, totally plausible.


2) If you have real money there is something called the estate tax.

If you have real money, you probably have an attorney to avoid the estate tax.

Of course, that attorney may be Jewish so your theory may still be valid.


Why does the tax exist at all?

I was told by you that the US is not in fact in decline and that we are entering a Golden age.

If that were true such unconstitutional taxes would be abolished.

Why does the tax exist at all? - Congress passed a law under its taxing authority in order to fund the government.

I was told by you that the US is not in fact in decline and that we are entering a Golden age. - No, you were not. You must have me confused with another poster.

If that were true such unconstitutional taxes would be abolished. - An estate tax is not unconstitutional. If you want the law changed, contact your representative and senators. FYI, the current exemption is $13.99 million for an individual and $27.98 million for a married couple.
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GrowlTowel said:

The_barBEARian said:

GrowlTowel said:

The_barBEARian said:

nein51 said:

The_barBEARian said:

nein51 said:

Mothra said:

nein51 said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

KaiBear said:

redfish961 said:



I lived in a better world than my stepdaughter will and that is sad.


My parents lived in a better world than I

And I live in a better world than my children will inherit.

The only thing I can do for my grandchildren is leave them as much cash as possible.

After that it will all come down to luck and their choices.

I don't think my parents lived in a better world.

Vietnam, Watergate, Kent st, etc.

I think I grew up in as perfect a world and country as it gets.

I wish it was still the same.

Baseball in the cul de sacs using tennis balls so we didn't break any windows.

Neighborhood football teams that would play each other in the park on saturdays.

Chasing crawdads, snapping turtles, bullfrogs, and fish, while wading in the creeks.

No video games, no cellphones, no spam, no e-mails.

Just hard work and fun.

I lived in a better world than my parents.

Unfortunately, even as much as I try, that life probably will be lost on my doodle because most just doen't live that way anymore.

If I may ask, what generation are you?

1966...I don't put myself in a box, so I don't know what that generation makes me.

All I know is I was too young to understand the bull****, but I sure had a lot of fun.

FYI, my entire family was military.

Grandfather (retired USAF), Grandfather (retired USN), Father (retired USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Aunt (USN), Uncle (USCG), Brother (USMC), and me (US Army).

Granted, I'm biased and didn't live the life most on this board did.

No racism, no woke, not wealthy, but a healthy respect for brotherhood.

I'm quite thankful for that.

Memories over materials all day long.

Thanks, I was thinking you were older for some reason. I grew up pretty much as you describe. Wish my kids had more of those memories.

Well, I probably look older, but it's well deserved.

You are not supposed to arrive at home base fresh and ready.

You are supposed to be skin burnt, scarred, and bleeding.

That means you have lived and not simply existed.

Life was better then.

Technology is great, but it also a bane on society.

I honestly could do without it and I think as a culture we would be better off.

As humans we tend to make things more complex than it needs to be.

Keep things simple and life gets better for everyone.

FTR I generally agree with you but your kids will have it better than you did and their kids will have it better.

Likely depends on what your criteria for "better" is. Will life be in some ways easier for them than it was for us, given the current state of technology? Sure. Not sure that is a good thing, however. Medical advances - and AI in particular - will likely lead to the end of a number of diseases. But they likely will not be better off financially, given the gap between salaries and cost of living. They also live in a time where people are on screens all day, rather than interacting with one another. And the filth that is at their finger tips is incredible. And of course AI is a double-edged sword. It giveth and it taketh away, especially jobs.

You're wrong. We live in the best economic times in history and they will only continue to get better. Standards of living are insanely high in this country and where do you think all the boomer/GenX wealth is going? Those people won't live forever.

We are also a MUCH smarter society when it comes to money which will lead to even more wealth for this generation.

I think this is a mistake people make all the time. They take a year or two or three and apply it to a lifetime (this is the entire problem with the climate change folks but I digress some). I have a number of trading accounts. They are all taking a beating right now. Lifetime those accounts have returned a ton.

A lifetime is a long time (for most). It will get better. It always gets better.





Hey look, you found a way to blame the Jews. I, for one, am shocked.

I'm sure all of the Boomers and Gen-X folks will be donating their life savings to Israel rather than their children. Seems like a thing that would happen. "I know you were in my will but I've decided to leave that money to the Jews". Yep, totally plausible.


2) If you have real money there is something called the estate tax.

If you have real money, you probably have an attorney to avoid the estate tax.

Of course, that attorney may be Jewish so your theory may still be valid.


Why does the tax exist at all?

I was told by you that the US is not in fact in decline and that we are entering a Golden age.

If that were true such unconstitutional taxes would be abolished.

Why does the tax exist at all? - Congress passed a law under its taxing authority in order to fund the government.

I was told by you that the US is not in fact in decline and that we are entering a Golden age. - No, you were not. You must have me confused with another poster.

If that were true such unconstitutional taxes would be abolished. - An estate tax is not unconstitutional. If you want the law changed, contact your representative and senators. FYI, the current exemption is $13.99 million for an individual and $27.98 million for a married couple.



My Senators and House Rep work for Israel.

Ted Cruz explicitly stated it was his top priority when he entered the Senate.
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The_barBEARian said:

GrowlTowel said:

The_barBEARian said:

GrowlTowel said:

The_barBEARian said:

nein51 said:

The_barBEARian said:

nein51 said:

Mothra said:

nein51 said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

KaiBear said:

redfish961 said:



I lived in a better world than my stepdaughter will and that is sad.


My parents lived in a better world than I

And I live in a better world than my children will inherit.

The only thing I can do for my grandchildren is leave them as much cash as possible.

After that it will all come down to luck and their choices.

I don't think my parents lived in a better world.

Vietnam, Watergate, Kent st, etc.

I think I grew up in as perfect a world and country as it gets.

I wish it was still the same.

Baseball in the cul de sacs using tennis balls so we didn't break any windows.

Neighborhood football teams that would play each other in the park on saturdays.

Chasing crawdads, snapping turtles, bullfrogs, and fish, while wading in the creeks.

No video games, no cellphones, no spam, no e-mails.

Just hard work and fun.

I lived in a better world than my parents.

Unfortunately, even as much as I try, that life probably will be lost on my doodle because most just doen't live that way anymore.

If I may ask, what generation are you?

1966...I don't put myself in a box, so I don't know what that generation makes me.

All I know is I was too young to understand the bull****, but I sure had a lot of fun.

FYI, my entire family was military.

Grandfather (retired USAF), Grandfather (retired USN), Father (retired USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Aunt (USN), Uncle (USCG), Brother (USMC), and me (US Army).

Granted, I'm biased and didn't live the life most on this board did.

No racism, no woke, not wealthy, but a healthy respect for brotherhood.

I'm quite thankful for that.

Memories over materials all day long.

Thanks, I was thinking you were older for some reason. I grew up pretty much as you describe. Wish my kids had more of those memories.

Well, I probably look older, but it's well deserved.

You are not supposed to arrive at home base fresh and ready.

You are supposed to be skin burnt, scarred, and bleeding.

That means you have lived and not simply existed.

Life was better then.

Technology is great, but it also a bane on society.

I honestly could do without it and I think as a culture we would be better off.

As humans we tend to make things more complex than it needs to be.

Keep things simple and life gets better for everyone.

FTR I generally agree with you but your kids will have it better than you did and their kids will have it better.

Likely depends on what your criteria for "better" is. Will life be in some ways easier for them than it was for us, given the current state of technology? Sure. Not sure that is a good thing, however. Medical advances - and AI in particular - will likely lead to the end of a number of diseases. But they likely will not be better off financially, given the gap between salaries and cost of living. They also live in a time where people are on screens all day, rather than interacting with one another. And the filth that is at their finger tips is incredible. And of course AI is a double-edged sword. It giveth and it taketh away, especially jobs.

You're wrong. We live in the best economic times in history and they will only continue to get better. Standards of living are insanely high in this country and where do you think all the boomer/GenX wealth is going? Those people won't live forever.

We are also a MUCH smarter society when it comes to money which will lead to even more wealth for this generation.

I think this is a mistake people make all the time. They take a year or two or three and apply it to a lifetime (this is the entire problem with the climate change folks but I digress some). I have a number of trading accounts. They are all taking a beating right now. Lifetime those accounts have returned a ton.

A lifetime is a long time (for most). It will get better. It always gets better.





Hey look, you found a way to blame the Jews. I, for one, am shocked.

I'm sure all of the Boomers and Gen-X folks will be donating their life savings to Israel rather than their children. Seems like a thing that would happen. "I know you were in my will but I've decided to leave that money to the Jews". Yep, totally plausible.


2) If you have real money there is something called the estate tax.

If you have real money, you probably have an attorney to avoid the estate tax.

Of course, that attorney may be Jewish so your theory may still be valid.


Why does the tax exist at all?

I was told by you that the US is not in fact in decline and that we are entering a Golden age.

If that were true such unconstitutional taxes would be abolished.

Why does the tax exist at all? - Congress passed a law under its taxing authority in order to fund the government.

I was told by you that the US is not in fact in decline and that we are entering a Golden age. - No, you were not. You must have me confused with another poster.

If that were true such unconstitutional taxes would be abolished. - An estate tax is not unconstitutional. If you want the law changed, contact your representative and senators. FYI, the current exemption is $13.99 million for an individual and $27.98 million for a married couple.



My Senators and House Rep work for Israel.

Ted Cruz explicitly stated it was his top priority when he entered the Senate.


So because they are tools of Israel you cannot contact them to eliminate the Estate tax?
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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GrowlTowel said:

The_barBEARian said:

GrowlTowel said:

The_barBEARian said:

GrowlTowel said:

The_barBEARian said:

nein51 said:

The_barBEARian said:

nein51 said:

Mothra said:

nein51 said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

Sam Lowry said:

redfish961 said:

KaiBear said:

redfish961 said:



I lived in a better world than my stepdaughter will and that is sad.


My parents lived in a better world than I

And I live in a better world than my children will inherit.

The only thing I can do for my grandchildren is leave them as much cash as possible.

After that it will all come down to luck and their choices.

I don't think my parents lived in a better world.

Vietnam, Watergate, Kent st, etc.

I think I grew up in as perfect a world and country as it gets.

I wish it was still the same.

Baseball in the cul de sacs using tennis balls so we didn't break any windows.

Neighborhood football teams that would play each other in the park on saturdays.

Chasing crawdads, snapping turtles, bullfrogs, and fish, while wading in the creeks.

No video games, no cellphones, no spam, no e-mails.

Just hard work and fun.

I lived in a better world than my parents.

Unfortunately, even as much as I try, that life probably will be lost on my doodle because most just doen't live that way anymore.

If I may ask, what generation are you?

1966...I don't put myself in a box, so I don't know what that generation makes me.

All I know is I was too young to understand the bull****, but I sure had a lot of fun.

FYI, my entire family was military.

Grandfather (retired USAF), Grandfather (retired USN), Father (retired USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Uncle (USN), Aunt (USN), Uncle (USCG), Brother (USMC), and me (US Army).

Granted, I'm biased and didn't live the life most on this board did.

No racism, no woke, not wealthy, but a healthy respect for brotherhood.

I'm quite thankful for that.

Memories over materials all day long.

Thanks, I was thinking you were older for some reason. I grew up pretty much as you describe. Wish my kids had more of those memories.

Well, I probably look older, but it's well deserved.

You are not supposed to arrive at home base fresh and ready.

You are supposed to be skin burnt, scarred, and bleeding.

That means you have lived and not simply existed.

Life was better then.

Technology is great, but it also a bane on society.

I honestly could do without it and I think as a culture we would be better off.

As humans we tend to make things more complex than it needs to be.

Keep things simple and life gets better for everyone.

FTR I generally agree with you but your kids will have it better than you did and their kids will have it better.

Likely depends on what your criteria for "better" is. Will life be in some ways easier for them than it was for us, given the current state of technology? Sure. Not sure that is a good thing, however. Medical advances - and AI in particular - will likely lead to the end of a number of diseases. But they likely will not be better off financially, given the gap between salaries and cost of living. They also live in a time where people are on screens all day, rather than interacting with one another. And the filth that is at their finger tips is incredible. And of course AI is a double-edged sword. It giveth and it taketh away, especially jobs.

You're wrong. We live in the best economic times in history and they will only continue to get better. Standards of living are insanely high in this country and where do you think all the boomer/GenX wealth is going? Those people won't live forever.

We are also a MUCH smarter society when it comes to money which will lead to even more wealth for this generation.

I think this is a mistake people make all the time. They take a year or two or three and apply it to a lifetime (this is the entire problem with the climate change folks but I digress some). I have a number of trading accounts. They are all taking a beating right now. Lifetime those accounts have returned a ton.

A lifetime is a long time (for most). It will get better. It always gets better.





Hey look, you found a way to blame the Jews. I, for one, am shocked.

I'm sure all of the Boomers and Gen-X folks will be donating their life savings to Israel rather than their children. Seems like a thing that would happen. "I know you were in my will but I've decided to leave that money to the Jews". Yep, totally plausible.


2) If you have real money there is something called the estate tax.

If you have real money, you probably have an attorney to avoid the estate tax.

Of course, that attorney may be Jewish so your theory may still be valid.


Why does the tax exist at all?

I was told by you that the US is not in fact in decline and that we are entering a Golden age.

If that were true such unconstitutional taxes would be abolished.

Why does the tax exist at all? - Congress passed a law under its taxing authority in order to fund the government.

I was told by you that the US is not in fact in decline and that we are entering a Golden age. - No, you were not. You must have me confused with another poster.

If that were true such unconstitutional taxes would be abolished. - An estate tax is not unconstitutional. If you want the law changed, contact your representative and senators. FYI, the current exemption is $13.99 million for an individual and $27.98 million for a married couple.



My Senators and House Rep work for Israel.

Ted Cruz explicitly stated it was his top priority when he entered the Senate.


So because they are tools of Israel you cannot contact them to eliminate the Estate tax?


Do you think Ted Cruz or John Cornyn would ever vote to eliminate the Estate tax?

They are more likely they invent new and novel ways to tax American citizens to send even more tax dollars to Israel.

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nein51 said:

redfish961 said:

This thread is a good example of having a good discussion.

Differing views in some cases, but civil.

If this board can do it, why can't congress?

Probably because none of us are posturing for a camera so we can post those 5 second clips during our re-election campaigns.

I think there's probably far more people have in common than they don't. It's shame that a chunk of our elected officials have decided their best course of action is to pander to the X crowd; almost certainly because they don't understand that the internet isn't real.


Majority of politicians are just playing a role for the uniparty establishment. It's mostly a stage.
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