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8:49a, 4/14/26
Turning PointUSA is having an event at Baylor on April 22. So what does Baylor leadership do?

Well of course they allow a gay group to have an event ON BAYLOR CAMPUS so both sides can voice their ideas. So a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY leadership believes they should counter a Christian organization in TurningPoint with non Biblical teachings of homosexuality. So much for standing firm on God's Word.

Real leadership would be to tell the homosexual group to have their event but not on Baylor campus! Affirm the true word of Jesus Christ. Do not allow worship of Baal, Ashura, or Mollech.

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9:14a, 4/14/26
Linda Livingstone has quietly destroyed every aspect of the Baylor we knew..
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In reply to Space Cutter • 9:19a, 4/14/26
Space Cutter said:
Turning PointUSA is having an event at Baylor on April 22. So what does Baylor leadership do?

Well of course they allow a gay group to have an event ON BAYLOR CAMPUS so both sides can voice their ideas. So a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY leadership believes they should counter a Christian organization in TurningPoint with non Biblical teachings of homosexuality. So much for standing firm on God's Word.

Real leadership would be to tell the homosexual group to have their event but not on Baylor campus! Affirm the true word of Jesus Christ. Do not allow worship of Baal, Ashura, or Mollech.


Free speech not allowed?
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In reply to BylrFan • 9:25a, 4/14/26
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Space Cutter said:
Turning PointUSA is having an event at Baylor on April 22. So what does Baylor leadership do?

Well of course they allow a gay group to have an event ON BAYLOR CAMPUS so both sides can voice their ideas. So a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY leadership believes they should counter a Christian organization in TurningPoint with non Biblical teachings of homosexuality. So much for standing firm on God's Word.

Real leadership would be to tell the homosexual group to have their event but not on Baylor campus! Affirm the true word of Jesus Christ. Do not allow worship of Baal, Ashura, or Mollech.


Free speech not allowed?


Sure it is... the question is why did Baylor feel the need to host a rival-oppositional rally on the same day that a conservative group had already set for their event?

And that is not even getting into the noticeably pattern of how Baylor leadership approaches free speech from conservative groups...almost like the pharisees approached someone with leprosy..."ew, get back".

While they consistently seem to rush to open arm embrace progressive view points and faculty.

Turning Point USA took 3-4 years to get chartered at Baylor...repeatedly denied a charter during that time frame. Even though Turning Point was already on 500+ college campuses

https://tpusa.com/live/baylor-tpusa-chapter-wins-fight-against-administration/
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In reply to BylrFan • 9:35a, 4/14/26
BylrFan said:
Space Cutter said:
Turning PointUSA is having an event at Baylor on April 22. So what does Baylor leadership do?

Well of course they allow a gay group to have an event ON BAYLOR CAMPUS so both sides can voice their ideas. So a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY leadership believes they should counter a Christian organization in TurningPoint with non Biblical teachings of homosexuality. So much for standing firm on God's Word.

Real leadership would be to tell the homosexual group to have their event but not on Baylor campus! Affirm the true word of Jesus Christ. Do not allow worship of Baal, Ashura, or Mollech.


Free speech not allowed?

Sure constitutionally guaranteed free speech is allowed, but this isn't a denial of free speech issue. It's about the leaders of a PRIVATE university claiming to foundation-ally stand on Christian values/beliefs/morals, etc. inexplicably feeling they have to allow a group that openly opposes those values to hold an on campus rally, especially on the same day a group that fully supports those values is holding an event. If the KKK or a neo-Nazi group wants to have a rally on the BU campus, should they also be allowed to do so as well in the name of "free speech"?
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 10:19a, 4/14/26
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BylrFan said:
Space Cutter said:
Turning PointUSA is having an event at Baylor on April 22. So what does Baylor leadership do?

Well of course they allow a gay group to have an event ON BAYLOR CAMPUS so both sides can voice their ideas. So a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY leadership believes they should counter a Christian organization in TurningPoint with non Biblical teachings of homosexuality. So much for standing firm on God's Word.

Real leadership would be to tell the homosexual group to have their event but not on Baylor campus! Affirm the true word of Jesus Christ. Do not allow worship of Baal, Ashura, or Mollech.


Free speech not allowed?


Sure it is... the question is why did Baylor feel the need to host a rival-oppositional rally on the same day that a conservative group had already set for their event?

And that is not even getting into the noticeably patter of how Baylor leadership approaches free speech from conservative groups...almost like the pharisees approached someone with leprosy..."ew get back".

While they consistently rush to open arm embrace progressive view points and faculty.

Turning Point USA took 3-4 years to get chartered at Baylor...repeatedly denied a charter during that time frame. Even though Turning Point was already on 500+ college campuses

https://tpusa.com/live/baylor-tpusa-chapter-wins-fight-against-administration/

This is really sad
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In reply to Danielsjackson114 • 10:21a, 4/14/26
Danielsjackson114 said:
Linda Livingstone has quietly destroyed every aspect of the Baylor we knew..

Linda needs to pound sand...
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10:27a, 4/14/26
Personally believe in the UChicago model that they expressed in 2014 (and have had for >100 years) when there were people that were upset that it was allowing people on campus that would remove their "safe space" experience.

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Education should not be intended to make people comfortable, it is meant to make them think. Universities should be expected to provide the conditions within which hard thought, and therefore strong disagreement, independent judgment, and the questioning of stubborn assumptions, can flourish in an environment of the greatest freedom."

Obviously, Baylor as a private institution can do what they want, but Chicago's method seems to be the point of an institute of higher learning existing.
Noooo evidence for that, babeeyyy, just maaade it up.
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In reply to BaylorHistory • 10:34a, 4/14/26
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Personally believe in the UChicago model that they expressed in 2014 (and have had for >100 years) when there were people that were upset that it was allowing people on campus that would remove their "safe space" experience.

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Education should not be intended to make people comfortable, it is meant to make them think. Universities should be expected to provide the conditions within which hard thought, and therefore strong disagreement, independent judgment, and the questioning of stubborn assumptions, can flourish in an environment of the greatest freedom."

Obviously, Baylor as a private institution can do what they want, but Chicago's method seems to be the point of an institute of higher learning existing.

I'd suggest that Baylor 1836-1986 set a good example for how the university should treat requests from special-interest groups. Some align with the traditional values, some oppose them, and the school should act according to that alignment.
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2:23p, 4/14/26
Not shocked, this is business as usual for Linda and the new Baylor. All of her actions are pointing in the same direction. "Some people just want to watch Baylor burn."
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In reply to The Rickest Rick There Is • 2:26p, 4/14/26
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Not shocked, this is business as usual for Linda and the new Baylor. All of her actions are pointing in the same direction. "Some people just want to watch Baylor burn."

Now let's be fair. Linda and her buddies will make sure they get a good paycheck for burning down Baylor's name and legacy.
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In reply to BylrFan • 2:30p, 4/14/26
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Space Cutter said:
Turning PointUSA is having an event at Baylor on April 22. So what does Baylor leadership do?

Well of course they allow a gay group to have an event ON BAYLOR CAMPUS so both sides can voice their ideas. So a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY leadership believes they should counter a Christian organization in TurningPoint with non Biblical teachings of homosexuality. So much for standing firm on God's Word.

Real leadership would be to tell the homosexual group to have their event but not on Baylor campus! Affirm the true word of Jesus Christ. Do not allow worship of Baal, Ashura, or Mollech.


Free speech not allowed?
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Not really a free speech issue since Baylor is a private Christian institution.
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In reply to BylrFan • 2:45p, 4/14/26
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Space Cutter said:
Turning PointUSA is having an event at Baylor on April 22. So what does Baylor leadership do?

Well of course they allow a gay group to have an event ON BAYLOR CAMPUS so both sides can voice their ideas. So a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY leadership believes they should counter a Christian organization in TurningPoint with non Biblical teachings of homosexuality. So much for standing firm on God's Word.

Real leadership would be to tell the homosexual group to have their event but not on Baylor campus! Affirm the true word of Jesus Christ. Do not allow worship of Baal, Ashura, or Mollech.


Free speech not allowed?

It's a private institution that allegedly follows scripture.

Would you object if BU invited a swingers club to meet on campus?

How about a Klan rally?

Surely you cannot be this blind.

And yes, I called you Shirley.

edit: I posted this prior to reading Johnny Bear's post stating basically the same thing.
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3:09p, 4/14/26
The pope is getting a lot of press getting cozy with muslims, I guess Linda is looking for free press as well.
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3:19p, 4/14/26
Sure free speech is allowed, but given the choice to hear the truth or confuse a male /female on alternative lifestyles why would anyone at a christian univ allow it.
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In reply to Danielsjackson114 • 8:38p, 4/14/26
Danielsjackson114 said:
Linda Livingstone has quietly destroyed every aspect of the Baylor we knew..

Are you afraid of what will be said?
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In reply to BluesBear • 8:45p, 4/14/26
BluesBear said:
Danielsjackson114 said:
Linda Livingstone has quietly destroyed every aspect of the Baylor we knew..

Linda needs to pound sand...

Linda needs to be sent packing.
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11:27p, 4/15/26
The Ivy League is finally waking up the problems and rot in academia

We can assume it will only take Baylor a decade or so to catch up and realize a course correction is needed


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In reply to Redbrickbear • 6:11a, 4/16/26
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The Ivy League is finally waking up the problems and rot in academia

We can assume it will only take Baylor a decade or so to catch up and realize a course correction is needed



First they got rid of the head coverings.
Then they got rid of the hymnals.
Then they got rid of the pews.
Then they got rid of morality.
Then they got rid of Christianity.

Neither evangelicalism nor its partner institutions are going to survive what is coming. An institution like Yale can drift into heresy and course correct because it divorced itself from its heritage generations ago. An institution like Baylor was never supposed to drift into heresy. The insertion of wokeness because secular society did it will be the poison pill that destroys it all.
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8:15a, 4/16/26
Scheduling it on the same day? That's a sure way to get the progressive news coverage that Linda wants. The gayer BU is the happier she and the progressives will be. Everything progressives touch gets worse, BU will be no exception. It will be like TCU by the time Linda is done - students will lean heavily towards rich Godless,dbags. Right now it's riding on the coat tails of the Godly people who rightly navigated it through this secular world. Now the captain is sailing straight into the progressive void.
Hopefully God will find some righteous men and women to save BU or raise up a new university in the place it once filled.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 8:50a, 4/16/26
Osodecentx said:
Danielsjackson114 said:
Linda Livingstone has quietly destroyed every aspect of the Baylor we knew..

Are you afraid of what will be said?
nah, we are all cool with satan promoting sin at a bible college

Matthew 6:24. "No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money."
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In reply to 4th and Inches • 9:08a, 4/16/26
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
Danielsjackson114 said:
Linda Livingstone has quietly destroyed every aspect of the Baylor we knew..

Are you afraid of what will be said?
nah, we are all cool with satan promoting sin at a bible college

Matthew 6:24. "No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money."


You fear the spoken word
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In reply to Osodecentx • 10:51a, 4/16/26
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
Danielsjackson114 said:
Linda Livingstone has quietly destroyed every aspect of the Baylor we knew..

Are you afraid of what will be said?
nah, we are all cool with satan promoting sin at a bible college

Matthew 6:24. "No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money."


You fear the spoken word
I fear nothing but the one true God in Heaven

Speak all you want, accept all the sin you want.. I will rebuke you for it and if you are unhospitable, I dust my sandals off..
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10:55a, 4/16/26
I hear that Baylor is financially in dire straits. This dumb move ought to really help with that.
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In reply to Space Cutter • 12:41p, 4/16/26
Space Cutter said:
Turning PointUSA is having an event at Baylor on April 22. So what does Baylor leadership do?

Well of course they allow a gay group to have an event ON BAYLOR CAMPUS so both sides can voice their ideas. So a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY leadership believes they should counter a Christian organization in TurningPoint with non Biblical teachings of homosexuality. So much for standing firm on God's Word.

Real leadership would be to tell the homosexual group to have their event but not on Baylor campus! Affirm the true word of Jesus Christ. Do not allow worship of Baal, Ashura, or Mollech.


Turning Point is not a theological group and a political one. The gay group is political too. Apparently, Baylor thinks college students may be too stupid to entertain ideas or make up their minds.
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In reply to 4th and Inches • 12:42p, 4/16/26
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
Danielsjackson114 said:
Linda Livingstone has quietly destroyed every aspect of the Baylor we knew..

Are you afraid of what will be said?

nah, we are all cool with satan promoting sin at a bible college

Matthew 6:24. "No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money."


You fear the spoken word

I fear nothing but the one true God in Heaven

Speak all you want, accept all the sin you want.. I will rebuke you for it and if you are unhospitable, I dust my sandals off..

Read a little more about the disciples and their mission.
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12:43p, 4/16/26
Dear sandal duster. The burden is on you to believe and not to be so damn judgmental, pulling text out of its context.
Matthew 22:37-39: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart..." and "Love your neighbor as yourself".
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In reply to Waco1947 • 1:18p, 4/16/26
Waco1947 said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
Danielsjackson114 said:
Linda Livingstone has quietly destroyed every aspect of the Baylor we knew..

Are you afraid of what will be said?

nah, we are all cool with satan promoting sin at a bible college

Matthew 6:24. "No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money."


You fear the spoken word

I fear nothing but the one true God in Heaven

Speak all you want, accept all the sin you want.. I will rebuke you for it and if you are unhospitable, I dust my sandals off..

Read a little more about the disciples and their mission.
expand..

I give you the floor to make your case

I could explain that you potentially break all 10 of the 10 Commandments just during the act of self pleasure. Let's not even get started on what happens when you involve two people.

God is the Father, Jesus is the truth.. not my truth or your truth but the truth. Compromised interpretation of scripture to make people feel good is sin.

Those who bring others to sin are to be harshly punished. Those who stand by and watch others sin without rebuke are guilty of the same sin.

The biblical law of first mentions clearly designate that intimacy is between one man and one woman in the covenant of marriage.
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In reply to Waco1947 • 1:21p, 4/16/26
Waco1947 said:
Dear sandal duster. The burden is on you to believe and not to be so damn judgmental, pulling text out of its context.
Matthew 22:37-39: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart..." and "Love your neighbor as yourself".
do you think the man who tells his son to move out since he does not folllow the fathers rules in his house does not love his son?

The son who disobeyed is the one who separates himself from his father's love. The father is still standing, right where the son walked away, joyously waiting for him to return.
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In reply to 4th and Inches • 1:24p, 4/16/26
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
Danielsjackson114 said:
Linda Livingstone has quietly destroyed every aspect of the Baylor we knew..

Are you afraid of what will be said?

nah, we are all cool with satan promoting sin at a bible college

Matthew 6:24. "No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money."


You fear the spoken word

I fear nothing but the one true God in Heaven

You do well
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In reply to Waco1947 • 1:27p, 4/16/26
Waco1947 said:
Space Cutter said:
Turning PointUSA is having an event at Baylor on April 22. So what does Baylor leadership do?

Well of course they allow a gay group to have an event ON BAYLOR CAMPUS so both sides can voice their ideas. So a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY leadership believes they should counter a Christian organization in TurningPoint with non Biblical teachings of homosexuality. So much for standing firm on God's Word.

Real leadership would be to tell the homosexual group to have their event but not on Baylor campus! Affirm the true word of Jesus Christ. Do not allow worship of Baal, Ashura, or Mollech.


Turning Point is not a theological group and a political one. The gay group is political too. Apparently, Baylor thinks college students may be too stupid to entertain ideas or make up their minds.

Baylor is letting both sides speak so students can make up their minds
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In reply to Mothra • 2:04p, 4/16/26
Mothra said:
BylrFan said:
Space Cutter said:
Turning PointUSA is having an event at Baylor on April 22. So what does Baylor leadership do?

Well of course they allow a gay group to have an event ON BAYLOR CAMPUS so both sides can voice their ideas. So a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY leadership believes they should counter a Christian organization in TurningPoint with non Biblical teachings of homosexuality. So much for standing firm on God's Word.

Real leadership would be to tell the homosexual group to have their event but not on Baylor campus! Affirm the true word of Jesus Christ. Do not allow worship of Baal, Ashura, or Mollech.


Free speech not allowed?

.

Not really a free speech issue since Baylor is a private Christian institution.

Right, it just masquerades as an academic institution where free speech and thought can be freely expressed.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” ~ Upton Sinclair
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 2:07p, 4/16/26
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BaylorHistory said:
Personally believe in the UChicago model that they expressed in 2014 (and have had for >100 years) when there were people that were upset that it was allowing people on campus that would remove their "safe space" experience.

Quote:
Education should not be intended to make people comfortable, it is meant to make them think. Universities should be expected to provide the conditions within which hard thought, and therefore strong disagreement, independent judgment, and the questioning of stubborn assumptions, can flourish in an environment of the greatest freedom."

Obviously, Baylor as a private institution can do what they want, but Chicago's method seems to be the point of an institute of higher learning existing.

I'd suggest that Baylor 1836-1986 set a good example for how the university should treat requests from special-interest groups. Some align with the traditional values, some oppose them, and the school should act according to that alignment.

Yeah, like alignment back in the good old days when Jesse Jackson was invited to speak at Chapel.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” ~ Upton Sinclair
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In reply to Osodecentx • 2:18p, 4/16/26
Osodecentx said:
Waco1947 said:
Space Cutter said:
Turning PointUSA is having an event at Baylor on April 22. So what does Baylor leadership do?

Well of course they allow a gay group to have an event ON BAYLOR CAMPUS so both sides can voice their ideas. So a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY leadership believes they should counter a Christian organization in TurningPoint with non Biblical teachings of homosexuality. So much for standing firm on God's Word.

Real leadership would be to tell the homosexual group to have their event but not on Baylor campus! Affirm the true word of Jesus Christ. Do not allow worship of Baal, Ashura, or Mollech.


Turning Point is not a theological group and a political one. The gay group is political too. Apparently, Baylor thinks college students may be too stupid to entertain ideas or make up their minds.

Baylor is letting both sides speak so students can make up their minds


Christ should have let the people of Jerusalem make up their on minds by giving the Pharisees equal time. Instead, he called the wolves in sheep's clothing.

Assuming God hears your prayers, you should tell him how he had it wrong.

/s
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In reply to TexasScientist • 2:24p, 4/16/26
TexasScientist said:
Oldbear83 said:
BaylorHistory said:
Personally believe in the UChicago model that they expressed in 2014 (and have had for >100 years) when there were people that were upset that it was allowing people on campus that would remove their "safe space" experience.

Quote:
Education should not be intended to make people comfortable, it is meant to make them think. Universities should be expected to provide the conditions within which hard thought, and therefore strong disagreement, independent judgment, and the questioning of stubborn assumptions, can flourish in an environment of the greatest freedom."

Obviously, Baylor as a private institution can do what they want, but Chicago's method seems to be the point of an institute of higher learning existing.

I'd suggest that Baylor 1836-1986 set a good example for how the university should treat requests from special-interest groups. Some align with the traditional values, some oppose them, and the school should act according to that alignment.

Yeah, like alignment back in the good old days when Jesse Jackson was invited to speak at Chapel.

Nothing wrong with that.

JJJr spoke of justice which is also spoken of frequently in scripture.

Justice aligns well with Baylor's stated mission.
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