Selling out Baylor

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LIB,MR BEARS
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Waco1947 said:

Baylorbears111 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

How is the LGBT a slap in the face of Baylor, but the serial Adulterer (Paxton) ok?

LGBT is seeking more than acceptance, it requires affirmation from Baylor as an institution.

Paxton's failings are personal and no one is demanding an organization that's primary duty is the acceptance and affirmation that serial adultery is not wrong behavior.

You seem to want Baylor to exclude Paxton for his moral failings but not hold the LGBT organization to the same flame.

Do you want Baylor to be more fundamentalist? If so, we might be able to find some agreeable terms here.




LGBT folk are ok if a loving, committed relationship, but Paxton repeatedly broke his vows of love and commitment.

Is this what you told your congregation prior to the church failing and being swallowed up by another?
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Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven
being an unrepentant homosexual is more likely to be judged as rebellious sin than being heterosexual in regards to the sin sexual immorality. Of course heterosexuals tend to have a good number of sins of sexual immorality.

Good news is the sin of sexual immorality like almost all the other sins, is repentable.

Rebellion against God the Father and the son Jesus Christ is the only unforgivable sin (blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.)
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Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven

Correct. Sin sends people to hell and unrepentant sin shows that a person has not put their faith is Christ.

We are all born with a sin nature. The question is, do we turn to ourselves or to Christ?

Matthew 16:24-26
24 Then Jesus told his disciples, "If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. 25 For whoever would save his life[a] will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. 26 For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?

Scripture is very clear on homosexual acts. Society is just as clear on homosexual acts.
They are opposing views.

Just as we have to make a choice if we are going to be a liar in our careers so we make a better life for our family, we also have to make a choice if we are going to not have sex with someone even though we may love them and it's consensual.

The Bible is very clear on marriage being between 1 man and 1 woman. No amount of redefining words changes that.

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Everything Baylor does (and other colleges) is understandable once you realize the ideological make up of the faculty & administration


Waco1947
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Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?
Waco1947
4th and Inches
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Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?
yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever
LIB,MR BEARS
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Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

Sorry about your bowel incontinance butt, it was predictable.
Waco1947
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4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage.. Why no anal? Many couples enjoy it - like 40% do it.

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin True, hence: heteroerotism and homoerothiscism

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form. Again true

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever. How does science prove God's design? Can I look up in a science if your right?

Waco1947
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Waco1947 said:

Dear sandal duster. The burden is on you to believe and not to be so damn judgmental, pulling text out of its context.
Matthew 22:37-39: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart..." and "Love your neighbor as yourself".


Why do you think leftists continually try and murder people that disagree with them?
Waco1947
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Dear sandal duster. The burden is on you to believe and not to be so damn judgmental, pulling text out of its context.
Matthew 22:37-39: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart..." and "Love your neighbor as yourself".


Why do you think leftists continually try and murder people that disagree with them?

Why do righties continually try to murder people who disagree with them? Righties and lefties are the same.
Waco1947
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Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Dear sandal duster. The burden is on you to believe and not to be so damn judgmental, pulling text out of its context.
Matthew 22:37-39: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart..." and "Love your neighbor as yourself".


Why do you think leftists continually try and murder people that disagree with them?

Why do righties continually try to murder people who disagree with them?


Strange thing to say on the day where the Left tried to murder the democratically elected President (again)
TexasScientist
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4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.



“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” ~ Upton Sinclair
LIB,MR BEARS
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TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.






Abraham didn't write scripture. He was just like you, a fallen individual with deceit in his heart.

I thought you knew this stuff prior to walking away from Christ. It seems you're either displaying your lack of knowledge or, you're purposefully misleading.

So did you walk away out of ignorance or, are you of satan?
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.






Abraham didn't write scripture. He was just like you, a fallen individual with deceit in his heart.

I thought you knew this stuff prior to walking away from Christ. It seems you're either displaying your lack of knowledge or, you're purposefully misleading.

So did you walk away out of ignorance or, are you of satan?


Who said he wrote scripture? He is most likely a literary composite character of Semitic Bronze Age heroes or leaders serving as a literary creation used to give the early Israelites and Islam a shared ancestor.

Just using sarcasm to point out the absurdity, hypocrisy, and deception of religious cults.

I left Christianity after taking an objective look at its origins, its claims, and the evidence of reality. And no I'm not MAGA or a Trumper.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” ~ Upton Sinclair
LIB,MR BEARS
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TexasScientist said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.






Abraham didn't write scripture. He was just like you, a fallen individual with deceit in his heart.

I thought you knew this stuff prior to walking away from Christ. It seems you're either displaying your lack of knowledge or, you're purposefully misleading.

So did you walk away out of ignorance or, are you of satan?


Who said he wrote scripture? He is most likely a literary composite character of Semitic Bronze Age heroes or leaders serving as a literary creation used to give the early Israelites and Islam a shared ancestor.

Just using sarcasm to point out the absurdity, hypocrisy, and deception of religious cults.

I left Christianity after taking an objective look at its origins, its claims, and the evidence of reality. And no I'm not MAGA or a Trumper.


The dude lives rent free. My comment had nothing to do with Trump or politics in general.

Take an objective look at the formation of the proboscis of a monarch butterfly. Objectively tell me how science explains this. Please include that it is formed in two separate parts and then nits itself together.

I tried to make it easy for you by leaving out all the steps metamorphosis and migration over 5 generations.

When you get around to it, maybe you'll care to offer your thoughts on the comments of these three scientists.
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

TexasScientist said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.






Abraham didn't write scripture. He was just like you, a fallen individual with deceit in his heart.

I thought you knew this stuff prior to walking away from Christ. It seems you're either displaying your lack of knowledge or, you're purposefully misleading.

So did you walk away out of ignorance or, are you of satan?


Who said he wrote scripture? He is most likely a literary composite character of Semitic Bronze Age heroes or leaders serving as a literary creation used to give the early Israelites and Islam a shared ancestor.

Just using sarcasm to point out the absurdity, hypocrisy, and deception of religious cults.

I left Christianity after taking an objective look at its origins, its claims, and the evidence of reality. And no I'm not MAGA or a Trumper.


The dude lives rent free. My comment had nothing to do with Trump or politics in general.

Take an objective look at the formation of the proboscis of a monarch butterfly. Objectively tell me how science explains this. Please include that it is formed in two separate parts and then nits itself together.

I tried to make it easy for you by leaving out all the steps metamorphosis and migration over 5 generations.

When you get around to it, maybe you'll care to offer your thoughts on the comments of these three scientists.

Biologic evolution explains it. Magic doesn't. Neither does inserting a god into what you don't fully understand as an answer. I've mentioned before that science seeks answers to questions, whereas religion presumes to know the answers before the question is asked. Imagining a mystical power, just because something seems too complex to understand is not a sustainable answer. Science answers questions. So far, science hasn't resolved any questions by determining god did it as an answer. However, history is littered with religious beliefs wrecked by scientific knowledge. Which scientists are you referring to?
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Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Dear sandal duster. The burden is on you to believe and not to be so damn judgmental, pulling text out of its context.
Matthew 22:37-39: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart..." and "Love your neighbor as yourself".


Why do you think leftists continually try and murder people that disagree with them?

Why do righties continually try to murder people who disagree with them? Righties and lefties are the same.

Name one. Can you remember the last time a right-winger attacked a political opponent? I know you know the left is the seat of political violence, and it speaks to a weird tribalism that you sort of pretend you do not know that.

The "both sides" is silly.

I agree with your quotation of Scripture. Loving one's neighbor is important. However, love does not always require agreeing with them.
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TexasScientist said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

TexasScientist said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.






Abraham didn't write scripture. He was just like you, a fallen individual with deceit in his heart.

I thought you knew this stuff prior to walking away from Christ. It seems you're either displaying your lack of knowledge or, you're purposefully misleading.

So did you walk away out of ignorance or, are you of satan?


Who said he wrote scripture? He is most likely a literary composite character of Semitic Bronze Age heroes or leaders serving as a literary creation used to give the early Israelites and Islam a shared ancestor.

Just using sarcasm to point out the absurdity, hypocrisy, and deception of religious cults.

I left Christianity after taking an objective look at its origins, its claims, and the evidence of reality. And no I'm not MAGA or a Trumper.


The dude lives rent free. My comment had nothing to do with Trump or politics in general.

Take an objective look at the formation of the proboscis of a monarch butterfly. Objectively tell me how science explains this. Please include that it is formed in two separate parts and then nits itself together.

I tried to make it easy for you by leaving out all the steps metamorphosis and migration over 5 generations.

When you get around to it, maybe you'll care to offer your thoughts on the comments of these three scientists.

Biologic evolution explains it. Magic doesn't. Neither does inserting a god into what you don't fully understand as an answer. I've mentioned before that science seeks answers to questions, whereas religion presumes to know the answers before the question is asked. Imagining a mystical power, just because something seems too complex to understand is not a sustainable answer. Science answers questions. So far, science hasn't resolved any questions by determining god did it as an answer. However, history is littered with religious beliefs wrecked by scientific knowledge. Which scientists are you referring to?

Explain it to these guys

https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/159753
4th and Inches
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TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.


anal sex poses serious medical risks, including bacterial and viral infections of the vagina, *****, rectum, and anus. Also, rectal tissue is more delicate and vulnerable to tearing and abrasion than vaginal tissue.

Science is why I am against it. Years in the healthcare field is why I am against it.

The God that I pray to believes in one man and one woman forever. The rest of your post is whataboutism that isnt applicable.

the correlation between the increase in premarital sex / sex for fun only and the increase in mental health issues isnt a coincidence.
TexasScientist
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

TexasScientist said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

TexasScientist said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.






Abraham didn't write scripture. He was just like you, a fallen individual with deceit in his heart.

I thought you knew this stuff prior to walking away from Christ. It seems you're either displaying your lack of knowledge or, you're purposefully misleading.

So did you walk away out of ignorance or, are you of satan?


Who said he wrote scripture? He is most likely a literary composite character of Semitic Bronze Age heroes or leaders serving as a literary creation used to give the early Israelites and Islam a shared ancestor.

Just using sarcasm to point out the absurdity, hypocrisy, and deception of religious cults.

I left Christianity after taking an objective look at its origins, its claims, and the evidence of reality. And no I'm not MAGA or a Trumper.


The dude lives rent free. My comment had nothing to do with Trump or politics in general.

Take an objective look at the formation of the proboscis of a monarch butterfly. Objectively tell me how science explains this. Please include that it is formed in two separate parts and then nits itself together.

I tried to make it easy for you by leaving out all the steps metamorphosis and migration over 5 generations.

When you get around to it, maybe you'll care to offer your thoughts on the comments of these three scientists.

Biologic evolution explains it. Magic doesn't. Neither does inserting a god into what you don't fully understand as an answer. I've mentioned before that science seeks answers to questions, whereas religion presumes to know the answers before the question is asked. Imagining a mystical power, just because something seems too complex to understand is not a sustainable answer. Science answers questions. So far, science hasn't resolved any questions by determining god did it as an answer. However, history is littered with religious beliefs wrecked by scientific knowledge. Which scientists are you referring to?

Explain it to these guys

https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/159753


None of these three make a compelling scientific argument for their hope for a supernatural being. All three choose to hold on to a myth because they fear their own mortality. Lennox is a mathematician, fundamentalist, who has curried favor for attention as an apologist. Tour is a chemist who says religion plays no part in his scientific work. Collins was raised in Christian churches. Collins believes in evolution, is a critic of intelligent design, and has a practical view of abortion. Except for his desire to insert the supernatural into abiogenesis, I don't disagree with him on scientific issues. Some people have a hard time acknowledging the evidence of reality because the desire for immortality is overriding. Neither James Tour nor Francis Collins adheres to a strictly literal, inerrant, and infallible interpretation of the entire Bible, nor are they young earth creationists. Since there is no science to support the supernatural, I would suggest their embracement of mysticism is clearly a psychological phenomena, and can be explained by evolutionary psychology.
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4th and Inches said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.



anal sex poses serious medical risks, including bacterial and viral infections of the vagina, *****, rectum, and anus. Also, rectal tissue is more delicate and vulnerable to tearing and abrasion than vaginal tissue.

Science is why I am against it. Years in the healthcare field is why I am against it.

The God that I pray to believes in one man and one woman forever. The rest of your post is whataboutism that isnt applicable.

the correlation between the increase in premarital sex / sex for fun only and the increase in mental health issues isnt a coincidence.

Ok, your argument has some validity depending upon the methods used I would think. Similar arguments can be made about vaginal intercourse also. Vaginal intercourse has multiple health risks associated with it including the risk of pregnancy. Oral sex has a host of associated health risks. You're not against either of those, presumably because you enjoy those two activities.

How do you know your god believes that? If it's the god of the Bible, that simply is not true. Granted the Bible is full of contradictory and conflicting primitive lore, but that god allows for multiple wives and concubines.

Please give me empirical objective scientific evidence that supports your claim that premarital sex, or sex for fun is the causation of an increase in mental health issues.
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TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.



anal sex poses serious medical risks, including bacterial and viral infections of the vagina, *****, rectum, and anus. Also, rectal tissue is more delicate and vulnerable to tearing and abrasion than vaginal tissue.

Science is why I am against it. Years in the healthcare field is why I am against it.

The God that I pray to believes in one man and one woman forever. The rest of your post is whataboutism that isnt applicable.

the correlation between the increase in premarital sex / sex for fun only and the increase in mental health issues isnt a coincidence.

Ok, your argument has some validity depending upon the methods used I would think. Similar arguments can be made about vaginal intercourse also. Vaginal intercourse has multiple health risks associated with it including the risk of pregnancy. Oral sex has a host of associated health risks. You're not against either of those, presumably because you enjoy those two activities.

How do you know your god believes that? If it's the god of the Bible, that simply is not true. Granted the Bible is full of contradictory and conflicting primitive lore, but that god allows for multiple wives and concubines.

Please give me empirical objective scientific evidence that supports your claim that premarital sex, or sex for fun is the causation of an increase in mental health issues.

"risk of pregnancy" with sex is like saying gasoline runs the risk of combustion.

Perhaps you're not aware of the REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM
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TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.



anal sex poses serious medical risks, including bacterial and viral infections of the vagina, *****, rectum, and anus. Also, rectal tissue is more delicate and vulnerable to tearing and abrasion than vaginal tissue.

Science is why I am against it. Years in the healthcare field is why I am against it.

The God that I pray to believes in one man and one woman forever. The rest of your post is whataboutism that isnt applicable.

the correlation between the increase in premarital sex / sex for fun only and the increase in mental health issues isnt a coincidence.

..Vaginal intercourse has multiple health risks associated with it including the risk of pregnancy.




That is not a "health risk"

That is the literally purpose of sex
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Redbrickbear said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.



anal sex poses serious medical risks, including bacterial and viral infections of the vagina, *****, rectum, and anus. Also, rectal tissue is more delicate and vulnerable to tearing and abrasion than vaginal tissue.

Science is why I am against it. Years in the healthcare field is why I am against it.

The God that I pray to believes in one man and one woman forever. The rest of your post is whataboutism that isnt applicable.

the correlation between the increase in premarital sex / sex for fun only and the increase in mental health issues isnt a coincidence.

..Vaginal intercourse has multiple health risks associated with it including the risk of pregnancy.




That is not a "health risk"

That is the literally purpose of sex


There is so much information content in that response ...
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.






Abraham didn't write scripture. He was just like you, a fallen individual with deceit in his heart.

I thought you knew this stuff prior to walking away from Christ. It seems you're either displaying your lack of knowledge or, you're purposefully misleading.

So did you walk away out of ignorance or, are you of satan?


Ancient elders wrote scripture over 500 years, and no God did not watch over every dot and tittle through those 500 years. That's an erroneous faith statement and unprovable. Unless, of course, you engage in circular reasoning where the person says.
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Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.






Abraham didn't write scripture. He was just like you, a fallen individual with deceit in his heart.

I thought you knew this stuff prior to walking away from Christ. It seems you're either displaying your lack of knowledge or, you're purposefully misleading.

So did you walk away out of ignorance or, are you of satan?


Ancient elders wrote scripture over 500 years, and no God did not watch over every dot and tittle through those 500 years. That's an erroneous faith statement and unprovable. Unless, of course, you engage in circular reasoning where the person says.

Tell me about the book of Abraham to which you refer. I'd love to read it.
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TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.



anal sex poses serious medical risks, including bacterial and viral infections of the vagina, *****, rectum, and anus. Also, rectal tissue is more delicate and vulnerable to tearing and abrasion than vaginal tissue.

Science is why I am against it. Years in the healthcare field is why I am against it.

The God that I pray to believes in one man and one woman forever. The rest of your post is whataboutism that isnt applicable.

the correlation between the increase in premarital sex / sex for fun only and the increase in mental health issues isnt a coincidence.

Ok, your argument has some validity depending upon the methods used I would think. Similar arguments can be made about vaginal intercourse also. Vaginal intercourse has multiple health risks associated with it including the risk of pregnancy. Oral sex has a host of associated health risks. You're not against either of those, presumably because you enjoy those two activities.

How do you know your god believes that? If it's the god of the Bible, that simply is not true. Granted the Bible is full of contradictory and conflicting primitive lore, but that god allows for multiple wives and concubines.

Please give me empirical objective scientific evidence that supports your claim that premarital sex, or sex for fun is the causation of an increase in mental health issues.



2018 study published in Psychological Science revealed that sexual intimacy heightens feelings of attachment and commitment, regardless of the relationship's longevity. When this bond is broken, feelings of rejection, inadequacy, and loss often follow.


This isnt a new thing..

Dr. Armand Nicholi, Jr., clinical professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, describes a study he helped to carry out in the 1960s:
"Not long after the sexual revolution was underway, clinicians observed that the new sexual freedom was creating a psychological disaster. We began to study Harvard students who complained of emptiness and despondency.

"There was a gap between their social conscience and the morality they were practicing in their personal lives. The new sexual permissiveness was leading to empty relationships and feelings of self-contempt. Many of these students were preoccupied with the passing of time and with death. They yearned for meaning, for a moral framework.

"When some of them moved away from moral relativism to a system of clear values typically embracing a drug-free lifestyle and a strict sexual code they reported that their relationships with the opposite sex improved, as did relations with peers in general, relationships with their parents, and their academic performance."
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Dear sandal duster. The burden is on you to believe and not to be so damn judgmental, pulling text out of its context.
Matthew 22:37-39: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart..." and "Love your neighbor as yourself".


Why do you think leftists continually try and murder people that disagree with them?

Why do righties continually try to murder people who disagree with them? Righties and lefties are the same.

Name one. Can you remember the last time a right-winger attacked a political opponent?

Vance Boelter, less than a year ago.
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Frank Galvin said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Dear sandal duster. The burden is on you to believe and not to be so damn judgmental, pulling text out of its context.
Matthew 22:37-39: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart..." and "Love your neighbor as yourself".


Why do you think leftists continually try and murder people that disagree with them?

Why do righties continually try to murder people who disagree with them? Righties and lefties are the same.

Name one. Can you remember the last time a right-winger attacked a political opponent?

Vance Boelter, less than a year ago.


He was a registered republican but investigators found no real logical ideological/political motivation for the murder.

No clear motivation that we can understand
[Despite the "voluminous writings" discovered in Boelter's home and car, no clear manifesto has been uncovered, according to Thompson, the acting US attorney. No manifesto is mentioned in the affidavit.

In his writings, he had many, many notebooks full of plans, lists of names, surveillance efforts that he took to surveil and locate the home addresses and family members, relationships with these elected officials," he said.

"But I have not seen anything involving some sort of political screed or manifesto that would clearly identify what motivated him," he went on.

"Obviously, his primary motive was to go out and murder people. They were all elected officials….Beyond that, I think it's just way too speculative for anyone that's reviewed these materials to know and to say what was motivating him in terms of ideology or specific issues."] -CNN

He also told investigators that Gov. Waltz has told him to kill Senator Amy Klobuchar

So that "Waltz could take her seat" even though he was not running

Boetler seems to have been just totally crazy vs politically extremist

https://www.startribune.com/vance-boelter-letter-klobuchar-walz-mn-assassination/601376682
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Frank Galvin said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Dear sandal duster. The burden is on you to believe and not to be so damn judgmental, pulling text out of its context.
Matthew 22:37-39: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart..." and "Love your neighbor as yourself".


Why do you think leftists continually try and murder people that disagree with them?

Why do righties continually try to murder people who disagree with them? Righties and lefties are the same.

Name one. Can you remember the last time a right-winger attacked a political opponent?

Vance Boelter, less than a year ago.

The guy that was appointed by Tim Walz and killed them for Walz (he was nuts)?

That's almost as good as the Paul Pelosi attacker who had big gay flags and burn loot murder flags at his home.

But I appreciate you copied that from social media and ingested the spin uncritically.
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4th and Inches said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.



anal sex poses serious medical risks, including bacterial and viral infections of the vagina, *****, rectum, and anus. Also, rectal tissue is more delicate and vulnerable to tearing and abrasion than vaginal tissue.

Science is why I am against it. Years in the healthcare field is why I am against it.

The God that I pray to believes in one man and one woman forever. The rest of your post is whataboutism that isnt applicable.

the correlation between the increase in premarital sex / sex for fun only and the increase in mental health issues isnt a coincidence.

Ok, your argument has some validity depending upon the methods used I would think. Similar arguments can be made about vaginal intercourse also. Vaginal intercourse has multiple health risks associated with it including the risk of pregnancy. Oral sex has a host of associated health risks. You're not against either of those, presumably because you enjoy those two activities.

How do you know your god believes that? If it's the god of the Bible, that simply is not true. Granted the Bible is full of contradictory and conflicting primitive lore, but that god allows for multiple wives and concubines.

Please give me empirical objective scientific evidence that supports your claim that premarital sex, or sex for fun is the causation of an increase in mental health issues.



2018 study published in Psychological Science revealed that sexual intimacy heightens feelings of attachment and commitment, regardless of the relationship's longevity. When this bond is broken, feelings of rejection, inadequacy, and loss often follow.


This isnt a new thing..

Dr. Armand Nicholi, Jr., clinical professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, describes a study he helped to carry out in the 1960s:
"Not long after the sexual revolution was underway, clinicians observed that the new sexual freedom was creating a psychological disaster. We began to study Harvard students who complained of emptiness and despondency.

"There was a gap between their social conscience and the morality they were practicing in their personal lives. The new sexual permissiveness was leading to empty relationships and feelings of self-contempt. Many of these students were preoccupied with the passing of time and with death. They yearned for meaning, for a moral framework.

"When some of them moved away from moral relativism to a system of clear values typically embracing a drug-free lifestyle and a strict sexual code they reported that their relationships with the opposite sex improved, as did relations with peers in general, relationships with their parents, and their academic performance."

It doesn't matter that sexual promiscuity carries negative mental and health issues to Texas "Scientist". He will blame everything on evolution because that is where his faith is. He discounts people smarter than him because they are willing to believe in God. He's just that guy. Practicing Christian are happier than his people. Likely because we live according to the way we were designed to live. He blames it on evolution.

He can look around and see the complete dissatisfaction of the Godless masses. The emotional and mental issues that are running rampant amongst women, and even men. It's clear that it is a God issue to anyone who knows God and has the holy spirit. As an atheist, he cannot come to terms with that, so there must be other natural reasons. And there are to the extent that God made us a certain way to live a certain way.

Atheism kills souls here on earth, not just in the afterlife. Truly a sad group of people.
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.






Abraham didn't write scripture. He was just like you, a fallen individual with deceit in his heart.

I thought you knew this stuff prior to walking away from Christ. It seems you're either displaying your lack of knowledge or, you're purposefully misleading.

So did you walk away out of ignorance or, are you of satan?


Ancient elders wrote scripture over 500 years, and no God did not watch over every dot and tittle through those 500 years. That's an erroneous faith statement and unprovable. Unless, of course, you engage in circular reasoning where the person says.

Tell me about the book of Abraham to which you refer. I'd love to read it.

Zondervan: The Old Testament was written gradually over roughly 1,000 years, with composition beginning around 14001200 BC for the earliest parts of the Torah (first five books) and finishing around 400 BC. While oral traditions existed earlier, scholars generally believe formal writing began during this mid-second to mid-first millennium BC period.
Zondervan Academic +2
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Frank Galvin said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Dear sandal duster. The burden is on you to believe and not to be so damn judgmental, pulling text out of its context.
Matthew 22:37-39: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart..." and "Love your neighbor as yourself".


Why do you think leftists continually try and murder people that disagree with them?

Why do righties continually try to murder people who disagree with them? Righties and lefties are the same.

Name one. Can you remember the last time a right-winger attacked a political opponent?

Vance Boelter, less than a year ago.

The guy that was appointed by Tim Walz and killed them for Walz (he was nuts)?

That's almost as good as the Paul Pelosi attacker who had big gay flags and burn loot murder flags at his home.

But I appreciate you copied that from social media and ingested the spin uncritically.

On Vance Boetler:

"But David Carlson, a roommate and close friend of Mr. Boelter's, said Mr. Boelter voted for Donald J. Trump last year and was particularly passionate about opposing abortion."

"Mr. Boelter was enrolled at Christ for the Nations Institute in Dallas from 1988 until 1990, when he graduated with a diploma in "practical theology in leadership and pastoral,"

"Federal tax forms show that Mr. Boelter and his wife once led a Christian nonprofit called Revoformation Ministries. An archived version of the group's website described Mr. Boelter as becoming an ordained minister in 1993. Mr. Boelter, the site said, had traveled to violent areas and had "sought out militant Islamists in order to share the gospel and tell them that violence wasn't the answer.""

"In another sermon, he appeared to criticize gay and transgender people. 'There's people, especially in America, they don't know what sex they are,' he said. "They don't know their sexual orientation, they're confused. The enemy has gotten so far into their mind and their soul."

While searching Mr. Boelter's primary residence in Green Isle, investigators found a notecard with the names of public officials, at least 47 firearms and more than $17,900 in cash, according to an inventory of items found during the search, detailed in a court document.

"In an affidavit unsealed on Friday, Terry Getsch of the F.B.I. said that Mr. Boelter and his wife, Jenny, were "preppers," or people who believe a calamity is imminent and prepare for its arrival."

"While searching Mr. Boelter's primary residence in Green Isle, investigators found a notecard with the names of public officials, at least 47 firearms and more than $17,900 in cash, according to an inventory of items found during the search, detailed in a court document."

"Friends and former colleagues interviewed by AP described Boelter as a devout Christian who attended an evangelical church and went to campaign rallies for President Donald Trump. Records show Boelter registered to vote as a Republican while living in Oklahoma in 2004 before moving to Minnesota where voters don't list party affiliation."

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/friends-say-minnesota-shooting-suspect-vance-boelter-deeply-religious-and-conservative/

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/19/us/minnesota-shootings-vance-boelter.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/us/politics/minnesota-shootings-gunman-suspect.html

But the fact that he served on a non-partisan board where the board memebrs were barely vetted makes him a liberal?
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Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Osodecentx said:

Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.






Abraham didn't write scripture. He was just like you, a fallen individual with deceit in his heart.

I thought you knew this stuff prior to walking away from Christ. It seems you're either displaying your lack of knowledge or, you're purposefully misleading.

So did you walk away out of ignorance or, are you of satan?


Ancient elders wrote scripture over 500 years, and no God did not watch over every dot and tittle through those 500 years. That's an erroneous faith statement and unprovable. Unless, of course, you engage in circular reasoning where the person says.

Tell me about the book of Abraham to which you refer. I'd love to read it.

Zondervan: The Old Testament was written gradually over roughly 1,000 years, with composition beginning around 14001200 BC for the earliest parts of the Torah (first five books) and finishing around 400 BC. While oral traditions existed earlier, scholars generally believe formal writing began during this mid-second to mid-first millennium BC period.
Zondervan Academic +2


You probably missed the part where I asked you about Abraham
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Being homosexual doesn't send you to hell, being heterosexual doesn't send you to heaven


True.

It's also true that one is natural form of sexuality encouraged by Christian doctrine and practice.

And the other is a unnatural fundamentally disordered form of sexuality rightfully condemned by Christian doctrine and practice.



Are oral sex and anal sex ok in a heterosexual marriage? How about outside of marriage? Or are they deviant or natural forms of behavior in Christian doctrine and practice?

yes oral, no anal, no sex outside of marriage..

As your science shows, hormones create a connection during sexual experience in two ways, the first one is the thrill dopamine, the second is oxytocin

Instead of strengthening bonds between a husband and wife, people are jumping from person to person in short relationships or one night stands when the dopamine thrill is gone and the oxytocin bond didnt form.

Science proves Gods design of one woman and one man forever

Why do you think oral is ok and anal is not?

According to lore, the god of Abraham approves of multiple wives and concubines for Jews, Muslims, and some Christians. Heavenly Father gave permission to the Mormons. God gave multiple indigenous religions permission for multiple wives. *** But not multiple husbands so much. That really irks him.

I'm not familiar with any scientific research the proves your preposterous claim. For one thing there has to be a god to make that assertion, a forever, and premise that can be the subject of a scientific study.



anal sex poses serious medical risks, including bacterial and viral infections of the vagina, *****, rectum, and anus. Also, rectal tissue is more delicate and vulnerable to tearing and abrasion than vaginal tissue.

Science is why I am against it. Years in the healthcare field is why I am against it.

The God that I pray to believes in one man and one woman forever. The rest of your post is whataboutism that isnt applicable.

the correlation between the increase in premarital sex / sex for fun only and the increase in mental health issues isnt a coincidence.

Ok, your argument has some validity depending upon the methods used I would think. Similar arguments can be made about vaginal intercourse also. Vaginal intercourse has multiple health risks associated with it including the risk of pregnancy. Oral sex has a host of associated health risks. You're not against either of those, presumably because you enjoy those two activities.

How do you know your god believes that? If it's the god of the Bible, that simply is not true. Granted the Bible is full of contradictory and conflicting primitive lore, but that god allows for multiple wives and concubines.

Please give me empirical objective scientific evidence that supports your claim that premarital sex, or sex for fun is the causation of an increase in mental health issues.


"risk of pregnancy" with sex is like saying gasoline runs the risk of combustion.

Perhaps you're not aware of the REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM

Perhaps you don't understand English.
 
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