Mitch Blood Green said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Liberals in the USA are a privileged and different breed. Including the younger generation.
Regardless of how one feels about DT or conservatives, liberals here are often very ignorant people with a distorted perception of how the real world works.
To them, socialism and communism are sexy. Hip. Edgy.
But not a one of them would last two seconds in any of those countries. And for some reason choose to ignore those who have fled those countries for the USA and reveal how bad it truly is.
Too blinded by their privileged arrogance.

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Socialism should have been relegated to the dustbin of history a long time ago. Conservatives are the only ones keeping it alive, sad to say.

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LOL.

Love how Sam accuses conservatives of all sorts of weird bull**** to try and trigger everyone.

His troll game needs improvement.

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NYC just elected that nut job as mayor. AOC is always flapping her gums. As is Bernie. Not to mention many others. And they're all wealthy, no doubt from capitalist ventures. Or in the case of the mayor, mommy and daddy's capitalist realms. If the conservatives are bringing it up it's only because a very vocal group of libs are flapping their gums about it. It's all coming out of their mouths first. Don't put this on the conservatives.

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NYC just elected a rock star of a mayor, and he's proving government can work for the people. I don't understand why people keep getting mad at the idea that honest elected officials can do good for the electorate. Instead, we keep voting for grifters, and they keep taking and telling us that that's the better way.

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Really?

First they will come for the billionaires.
Then they will come for the millionaires.
Then, when those people leave, they will come for you…because there won't be anything left.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Liberals in the USA are a privileged and different breed. Including the younger generation.
Regardless of how one feels about DT or conservatives, liberals here are often very ignorant people with a distorted perception of how the real world works.
To them, socialism and communism are sexy. Hip. Edgy.
But not a one of them would last two seconds in any of those countries. And for some reason choose to ignore those who have fled those countries for the USA and reveal how bad it truly is.
Too blinded by their privileged arrogance.

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Socialism should have been relegated to the dustbin of history a long time ago. Conservatives are the only ones keeping it alive, sad to say.

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LOL.

Love how Sam accuses conservatives of all sorts of weird bull**** to try and trigger everyone.

His troll game needs improvement.

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NYC just elected that nut job as mayor. AOC is always flapping her gums. As is Bernie. Not to mention many others. And they're all wealthy, no doubt from capitalist ventures. Or in the case of the mayor, mommy and daddy's capitalist realms. If the conservatives are bringing it up it's only because a very vocal group of libs are flapping their gums about it. It's all coming out of their mouths first. Don't put this on the conservatives.

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NYC just elected a rock star of a mayor, and he's proving government can work for the people. I don't understand why people keep getting mad at the idea that honest elected officials can do good for the electorate. Instead, we keep voting for grifters, and they keep taking and telling us that that's the better way.

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I appreciate a good troll job.

I especially like Mandami's ideas on a Soviet style grocery store. Those seem to work really well during its heyday.

nein51 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Liberals in the USA are a privileged and different breed. Including the younger generation.
Regardless of how one feels about DT or conservatives, liberals here are often very ignorant people with a distorted perception of how the real world works.
To them, socialism and communism are sexy. Hip. Edgy.
But not a one of them would last two seconds in any of those countries. And for some reason choose to ignore those who have fled those countries for the USA and reveal how bad it truly is.
Too blinded by their privileged arrogance.

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Socialism should have been relegated to the dustbin of history a long time ago. Conservatives are the only ones keeping it alive, sad to say.

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LOL.

Love how Sam accuses conservatives of all sorts of weird bull**** to try and trigger everyone.

His troll game needs improvement.

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NYC just elected that nut job as mayor. AOC is always flapping her gums. As is Bernie. Not to mention many others. And they're all wealthy, no doubt from capitalist ventures. Or in the case of the mayor, mommy and daddy's capitalist realms. If the conservatives are bringing it up it's only because a very vocal group of libs are flapping their gums about it. It's all coming out of their mouths first. Don't put this on the conservatives.

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NYC just elected a rock star of a mayor, and he's proving government can work for the people. I don't understand why people keep getting mad at the idea that honest elected officials can do good for the electorate. Instead, we keep voting for grifters, and they keep taking and telling us that that's the better way.

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Really?

First they will come for the billionaires.
Then they will come for the millionaires.
Then, when those people leave, they will come for you…because there won't be anything left.

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Money can't leave places where you can't make money. Texas isn't "winning" from the inflow of capital. It comes to the state but doesn't help improve anyone's lives. Why? Because it stays in the hands of the people who made it in NY, Illinois, and California.

Mothra said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Liberals in the USA are a privileged and different breed. Including the younger generation.
Regardless of how one feels about DT or conservatives, liberals here are often very ignorant people with a distorted perception of how the real world works.
To them, socialism and communism are sexy. Hip. Edgy.
But not a one of them would last two seconds in any of those countries. And for some reason choose to ignore those who have fled those countries for the USA and reveal how bad it truly is.
Too blinded by their privileged arrogance.

---

Socialism should have been relegated to the dustbin of history a long time ago. Conservatives are the only ones keeping it alive, sad to say.

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LOL.

Love how Sam accuses conservatives of all sorts of weird bull**** to try and trigger everyone.

His troll game needs improvement.

---

NYC just elected that nut job as mayor. AOC is always flapping her gums. As is Bernie. Not to mention many others. And they're all wealthy, no doubt from capitalist ventures. Or in the case of the mayor, mommy and daddy's capitalist realms. If the conservatives are bringing it up it's only because a very vocal group of libs are flapping their gums about it. It's all coming out of their mouths first. Don't put this on the conservatives.

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NYC just elected a rock star of a mayor, and he's proving government can work for the people. I don't understand why people keep getting mad at the idea that honest elected officials can do good for the electorate. Instead, we keep voting for grifters, and they keep taking and telling us that that's the better way.

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I appreciate a good troll job.

I especially like Mandami's ideas on a Soviet style grocery store. Those seem to work really well during its heyday.

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Some ideas may not be successful. What has proven itself to be a failure is tax cuts for the top income earners and successful corporations in the hope that it will "trickle down" to the little guy.

States are not winning with the strategy of wooing corporations that utilize the infrastructure but don't pay for it. Texas is just putting that cost on our backs.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mothra said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Liberals in the USA are a privileged and different breed. Including the younger generation.
Regardless of how one feels about DT or conservatives, liberals here are often very ignorant people with a distorted perception of how the real world works.
To them, socialism and communism are sexy. Hip. Edgy.
But not a one of them would last two seconds in any of those countries. And for some reason choose to ignore those who have fled those countries for the USA and reveal how bad it truly is.
Too blinded by their privileged arrogance.

---

Socialism should have been relegated to the dustbin of history a long time ago. Conservatives are the only ones keeping it alive, sad to say.

---

LOL.

Love how Sam accuses conservatives of all sorts of weird bull**** to try and trigger everyone.

His troll game needs improvement.

---

NYC just elected that nut job as mayor. AOC is always flapping her gums. As is Bernie. Not to mention many others. And they're all wealthy, no doubt from capitalist ventures. Or in the case of the mayor, mommy and daddy's capitalist realms. If the conservatives are bringing it up it's only because a very vocal group of libs are flapping their gums about it. It's all coming out of their mouths first. Don't put this on the conservatives.

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NYC just elected a rock star of a mayor, and he's proving government can work for the people. I don't understand why people keep getting mad at the idea that honest elected officials can do good for the electorate. Instead, we keep voting for grifters, and they keep taking and telling us that that's the better way.

---

I appreciate a good troll job.

I especially like Mandami's ideas on a Soviet style grocery store. Those seem to work really well during its heyday.

---

Some ideas may not be successful. What has proven itself to be a failure is tax cuts for the top income earners and successful corporations in the hope that it will "trickle down" to the little guy.

States are not winning with the strategy of wooing corporations that utilize the infrastructure but don't pay for it. Texas is just putting that cost on our backs.

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Good way to cause a mass exodus from NYC.

It always amazes me when people fall for repackaged socialism. I mean, we have an idea that's so bad it has literally bankrupted every country that has employed any true version of it, but somehow now it's going to be different in NYC.

Oy vey.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Liberals in the USA are a privileged and different breed. Including the younger generation.
Regardless of how one feels about DT or conservatives, liberals here are often very ignorant people with a distorted perception of how the real world works.
To them, socialism and communism are sexy. Hip. Edgy.
But not a one of them would last two seconds in any of those countries. And for some reason choose to ignore those who have fled those countries for the USA and reveal how bad it truly is.
Too blinded by their privileged arrogance.

---

Socialism should have been relegated to the dustbin of history a long time ago. Conservatives are the only ones keeping it alive, sad to say.

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LOL.

Love how Sam accuses conservatives of all sorts of weird bull**** to try and trigger everyone.

His troll game needs improvement.

---

NYC just elected that nut job as mayor. AOC is always flapping her gums. As is Bernie. Not to mention many others. And they're all wealthy, no doubt from capitalist ventures. Or in the case of the mayor, mommy and daddy's capitalist realms. If the conservatives are bringing it up it's only because a very vocal group of libs are flapping their gums about it. It's all coming out of their mouths first. Don't put this on the conservatives.

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NYC just elected a rock star of a mayor, and he's proving government can work for the people. I don't understand why people keep getting mad at the idea that honest elected officials can do good for the electorate. Instead, we keep voting for grifters, and they keep taking and telling us that that's the better way.

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Lmao please tell me this is sarcasm

Mothra said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mothra said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Liberals in the USA are a privileged and different breed. Including the younger generation.
Regardless of how one feels about DT or conservatives, liberals here are often very ignorant people with a distorted perception of how the real world works.
To them, socialism and communism are sexy. Hip. Edgy.
But not a one of them would last two seconds in any of those countries. And for some reason choose to ignore those who have fled those countries for the USA and reveal how bad it truly is.
Too blinded by their privileged arrogance.

---

Socialism should have been relegated to the dustbin of history a long time ago. Conservatives are the only ones keeping it alive, sad to say.

---

LOL.

Love how Sam accuses conservatives of all sorts of weird bull**** to try and trigger everyone.

His troll game needs improvement.

---

NYC just elected that nut job as mayor. AOC is always flapping her gums. As is Bernie. Not to mention many others. And they're all wealthy, no doubt from capitalist ventures. Or in the case of the mayor, mommy and daddy's capitalist realms. If the conservatives are bringing it up it's only because a very vocal group of libs are flapping their gums about it. It's all coming out of their mouths first. Don't put this on the conservatives.

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NYC just elected a rock star of a mayor, and he's proving government can work for the people. I don't understand why people keep getting mad at the idea that honest elected officials can do good for the electorate. Instead, we keep voting for grifters, and they keep taking and telling us that that's the better way.

---

I appreciate a good troll job.

I especially like Mandami's ideas on a Soviet style grocery store. Those seem to work really well during its heyday.

---

Some ideas may not be successful. What has proven itself to be a failure is tax cuts for the top income earners and successful corporations in the hope that it will "trickle down" to the little guy.

States are not winning with the strategy of wooing corporations that utilize the infrastructure but don't pay for it. Texas is just putting that cost on our backs.

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Good way to cause a mass exodus from NYC.

It always amazes me when people fall for repackaged socialism. I mean, we have an idea that's so bad it has literally bankrupted every country that has employed any true version of it, but somehow now it's going to be different in NYC.

Oy vey.

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People come to New York. People leave New York. What you're missing is that people go there to make the salary they make. There's a reason why people aren't moving to Waco to become Traders and actors.

Trust me, New York isn't about to run short of ambitious people wanting to make it.

Whatever he does, it will not be taxes. Albany has to approve that. He cant raise taxes or anything with transit l, education, ports or other State control items. Mostly, budget for police, sanitation, public works, parkd. Zoning that types

nein51 said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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If any of you all came up with businesses like Musk or Bezos, you would have a different mind set, but you haven't so you hate on it.

If you had a billion dollar idea, you would make sure you get every penny out of it. How do you tell someone "you can make money, but we are going to cap you on how successful you can be"

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Exactly. I want to be part of a society where I think "I can do that! I can get there!"

Not one that says "that guy has too much much and it's all his fault I don't have anything".

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That isn't the issue. Not everyone can be Elon. But when the economy is growing and productivity is increasing, everyone should be getting richer to some degree. Instead real wages are falling, and more people are struggling.

DAC said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Liberals in the USA are a privileged and different breed. Including the younger generation.
Regardless of how one feels about DT or conservatives, liberals here are often very ignorant people with a distorted perception of how the real world works.
To them, socialism and communism are sexy. Hip. Edgy.
But not a one of them would last two seconds in any of those countries. And for some reason choose to ignore those who have fled those countries for the USA and reveal how bad it truly is.
Too blinded by their privileged arrogance.

---

Socialism should have been relegated to the dustbin of history a long time ago. Conservatives are the only ones keeping it alive, sad to say.

---

LOL.

Love how Sam accuses conservatives of all sorts of weird bull**** to try and trigger everyone.

His troll game needs improvement.

---

NYC just elected that nut job as mayor. AOC is always flapping her gums. As is Bernie. Not to mention many others. And they're all wealthy, no doubt from capitalist ventures. Or in the case of the mayor, mommy and daddy's capitalist realms. If the conservatives are bringing it up it's only because a very vocal group of libs are flapping their gums about it. It's all coming out of their mouths first. Don't put this on the conservatives.

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NYC just elected a rock star of a mayor, and he's proving government can work for the people. I don't understand why people keep getting mad at the idea that honest elected officials can do good for the electorate. Instead, we keep voting for grifters, and they keep taking and telling us that that's the better way.

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Lmao please tell me this is sarcasm

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Were you planning g to move to New York, but they elected Mandhami and you decided against it?

My bet? New York ain't for you, regardless of who in the mayor. So why all the angst?

The job of the mayor is to make life better for the people who live there. More cities could use a dynamic mayor. We know Congress doesn't vote for the best interest of its people.

Mothra said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mothra said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mothra said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Liberals in the USA are a privileged and different breed. Including the younger generation.
Regardless of how one feels about DT or conservatives, liberals here are often very ignorant people with a distorted perception of how the real world works.
To them, socialism and communism are sexy. Hip. Edgy.
But not a one of them would last two seconds in any of those countries. And for some reason choose to ignore those who have fled those countries for the USA and reveal how bad it truly is.
Too blinded by their privileged arrogance.

---

Socialism should have been relegated to the dustbin of history a long time ago. Conservatives are the only ones keeping it alive, sad to say.

---

LOL.

Love how Sam accuses conservatives of all sorts of weird bull**** to try and trigger everyone.

His troll game needs improvement.

---

NYC just elected that nut job as mayor. AOC is always flapping her gums. As is Bernie. Not to mention many others. And they're all wealthy, no doubt from capitalist ventures. Or in the case of the mayor, mommy and daddy's capitalist realms. If the conservatives are bringing it up it's only because a very vocal group of libs are flapping their gums about it. It's all coming out of their mouths first. Don't put this on the conservatives.

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NYC just elected a rock star of a mayor, and he's proving government can work for the people. I don't understand why people keep getting mad at the idea that honest elected officials can do good for the electorate. Instead, we keep voting for grifters, and they keep taking and telling us that that's the better way.

---

I appreciate a good troll job.

I especially like Mandami's ideas on a Soviet style grocery store. Those seem to work really well during its heyday.

---

Some ideas may not be successful. What has proven itself to be a failure is tax cuts for the top income earners and successful corporations in the hope that it will "trickle down" to the little guy.

States are not winning with the strategy of wooing corporations that utilize the infrastructure but don't pay for it. Texas is just putting that cost on our backs.

---

Good way to cause a mass exodus from NYC.

It always amazes me when people fall for repackaged socialism. I mean, we have an idea that's so bad it has literally bankrupted every country that has employed any true version of it, but somehow now it's going to be different in NYC.

Oy vey.

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People come to New York. People leave New York. What you're missing is that people go there to make the salary they make. There's a reason why people aren't moving to Waco to become Traders and actors.

Trust me, New York isn't about to run short of ambitious people wanting to make it.

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Businesses are leaving NYC in droves, and that's where the real tax revenue comes from.

https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/new-york-city-lost-nearly-5000-businesses-last-year-report-albany-mayor-zohran-mamdani-employers-low-tax-states-taxes-economic-conditions-economy-income-sales-property-unemployment

NYC already has one of the highest state and local income taxes in the U.S., and adding more to their tax burden is just a bridge too far for many businesses. And therein lies the problems with these kind of taxes. They never work.

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That's for them to navigate. What I keep finding funny is when Tesla needed a foothold, the Fed was good for $500M. Musk gets our tax dollar to fund SpaceX and until Trump, tax incentives to increase sales.

When a city wants to do lunch for all students? It's socialism.

The purpose of the government is not to make life easy for businesses at the expense of the rest of us. People were energized by Mamdani because he offered that the government would work for them, too.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Liberals in the USA are a privileged and different breed. Including the younger generation.
Regardless of how one feels about DT or conservatives, liberals here are often very ignorant people with a distorted perception of how the real world works.
To them, socialism and communism are sexy. Hip. Edgy.
But not a one of them would last two seconds in any of those countries. And for some reason choose to ignore those who have fled those countries for the USA and reveal how bad it truly is.
Too blinded by their privileged arrogance.

---

Socialism should have been relegated to the dustbin of history a long time ago. Conservatives are the only ones keeping it alive, sad to say.

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LOL.

Love how Sam accuses conservatives of all sorts of weird bull**** to try and trigger everyone.

His troll game needs improvement.

---

NYC just elected that nut job as mayor. AOC is always flapping her gums. As is Bernie. Not to mention many others. And they're all wealthy, no doubt from capitalist ventures. Or in the case of the mayor, mommy and daddy's capitalist realms. If the conservatives are bringing it up it's only because a very vocal group of libs are flapping their gums about it. It's all coming out of their mouths first. Don't put this on the conservatives.

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NYC just elected a rock star of a mayor, and he's proving government can work for the people. I don't understand why people keep getting mad at the idea that honest elected officials can do good for the electorate. Instead, we keep voting for grifters, and they keep taking and telling us that that's the better way.

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Let's see if you are calling him a rock star after he opens up the free grocery stores, makes buses free, taxes the wealthy and all the other ideas he wants to do and have been going for say a year or two and see how things are going then.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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nein51 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Liberals in the USA are a privileged and different breed. Including the younger generation.
Regardless of how one feels about DT or conservatives, liberals here are often very ignorant people with a distorted perception of how the real world works.
To them, socialism and communism are sexy. Hip. Edgy.
But not a one of them would last two seconds in any of those countries. And for some reason choose to ignore those who have fled those countries for the USA and reveal how bad it truly is.
Too blinded by their privileged arrogance.

---

Socialism should have been relegated to the dustbin of history a long time ago. Conservatives are the only ones keeping it alive, sad to say.

---

LOL.

Love how Sam accuses conservatives of all sorts of weird bull**** to try and trigger everyone.

His troll game needs improvement.

---

NYC just elected that nut job as mayor. AOC is always flapping her gums. As is Bernie. Not to mention many others. And they're all wealthy, no doubt from capitalist ventures. Or in the case of the mayor, mommy and daddy's capitalist realms. If the conservatives are bringing it up it's only because a very vocal group of libs are flapping their gums about it. It's all coming out of their mouths first. Don't put this on the conservatives.

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NYC just elected a rock star of a mayor, and he's proving government can work for the people. I don't understand why people keep getting mad at the idea that honest elected officials can do good for the electorate. Instead, we keep voting for grifters, and they keep taking and telling us that that's the better way.

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Really?

First they will come for the billionaires.
Then they will come for the millionaires.
Then, when those people leave, they will come for you…because there won't be anything left.

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Money can't leave places where you can't make money. Texas isn't "winning" from the inflow of capital. It comes to the state but doesn't help improve anyone's lives. Why? Because it stays in the hands of the people who made it in NY, Illinois, and California.

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This can't be real. They move out of those states, spend their money here, build their business here and thus create a ton of jobs. Sure they still have billions or millions themselves but they are helping the state.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mothra said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mothra said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TrojanMoondoggie said:

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Liberals in the USA are a privileged and different breed. Including the younger generation.
Regardless of how one feels about DT or conservatives, liberals here are often very ignorant people with a distorted perception of how the real world works.
To them, socialism and communism are sexy. Hip. Edgy.
But not a one of them would last two seconds in any of those countries. And for some reason choose to ignore those who have fled those countries for the USA and reveal how bad it truly is.
Too blinded by their privileged arrogance.

---

Socialism should have been relegated to the dustbin of history a long time ago. Conservatives are the only ones keeping it alive, sad to say.

---

LOL.

Love how Sam accuses conservatives of all sorts of weird bull**** to try and trigger everyone.

His troll game needs improvement.

---

NYC just elected that nut job as mayor. AOC is always flapping her gums. As is Bernie. Not to mention many others. And they're all wealthy, no doubt from capitalist ventures. Or in the case of the mayor, mommy and daddy's capitalist realms. If the conservatives are bringing it up it's only because a very vocal group of libs are flapping their gums about it. It's all coming out of their mouths first. Don't put this on the conservatives.

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NYC just elected a rock star of a mayor, and he's proving government can work for the people. I don't understand why people keep getting mad at the idea that honest elected officials can do good for the electorate. Instead, we keep voting for grifters, and they keep taking and telling us that that's the better way.

---

I appreciate a good troll job.

I especially like Mandami's ideas on a Soviet style grocery store. Those seem to work really well during its heyday.

---

Some ideas may not be successful. What has proven itself to be a failure is tax cuts for the top income earners and successful corporations in the hope that it will "trickle down" to the little guy.

States are not winning with the strategy of wooing corporations that utilize the infrastructure but don't pay for it. Texas is just putting that cost on our backs.

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Good way to cause a mass exodus from NYC.

It always amazes me when people fall for repackaged socialism. I mean, we have an idea that's so bad it has literally bankrupted every country that has employed any true version of it, but somehow now it's going to be different in NYC.

Oy vey.

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People come to New York. People leave New York. What you're missing is that people go there to make the salary they make. There's a reason why people aren't moving to Waco to become Traders and actors.

Trust me, New York isn't about to run short of ambitious people wanting to make it.

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The two careers you mention go to NYC because that is where the jobs are. As trading gets spread out and done online there will not be a need for everyone to work in NYC to do it. Heck there isn't a need now. Which is why states keep trying to create their own stock exchanges and get the companies out of NYC.

There is also a huge difference to talk about when comparing even a $200K salary in NYC to even Dallas.

Sam Lowry said:

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nein51 said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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If any of you all came up with businesses like Musk or Bezos, you would have a different mind set, but you haven't so you hate on it.

If you had a billion dollar idea, you would make sure you get every penny out of it. How do you tell someone "you can make money, but we are going to cap you on how successful you can be"

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Exactly. I want to be part of a society where I think "I can do that! I can get there!"

Not one that says "that guy has too much much and it's all his fault I don't have anything".

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That isn't the issue. Not everyone can be Elon. But when the economy is growing and productivity is increasing, everyone should be getting richer to some degree. Instead real wages are falling, and more people are struggling.

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Real wages decline because of "compassion" the government likes to apply to capitalism. Another $2 Trillion of debt this year?

And Elon has made great lives for a lot of people, including thousands of employees, and countless investors. We demonize the producers because the government needs targets to stay in power.

ATL Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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nein51 said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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If any of you all came up with businesses like Musk or Bezos, you would have a different mind set, but you haven't so you hate on it.

If you had a billion dollar idea, you would make sure you get every penny out of it. How do you tell someone "you can make money, but we are going to cap you on how successful you can be"

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Exactly. I want to be part of a society where I think "I can do that! I can get there!"

Not one that says "that guy has too much much and it's all his fault I don't have anything".

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That isn't the issue. Not everyone can be Elon. But when the economy is growing and productivity is increasing, everyone should be getting richer to some degree. Instead real wages are falling, and more people are struggling.

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Real wages decline because of "compassion" the government likes to apply to capitalism. Another $2 Trillion of debt this year?

And Elon has made great lives for a lot of people, including thousands of employees, and countless investors. We demonize the producers because the government needs targets to stay in power.

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We don't need to add a penny to the debt. The main problem is just that low and middle-income wages have been stagnant for a few generations now.

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If any of you all came up with businesses like Musk or Bezos, you would have a different mind set, but you haven't so you hate on it.

If you had a billion dollar idea, you would make sure you get every penny out of it. How do you tell someone "you can make money, but we are going to cap you on how successful you can be"

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Exactly. I want to be part of a society where I think "I can do that! I can get there!"

Not one that says "that guy has too much much and it's all his fault I don't have anything".

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That isn't the issue. Not everyone can be Elon. But when the economy is growing and productivity is increasing, everyone should be getting richer to some degree. Instead real wages are falling, and more people are struggling.

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Real wages decline because of "compassion" the government likes to apply to capitalism. Another $2 Trillion of debt this year?

And Elon has made great lives for a lot of people, including thousands of employees, and countless investors. We demonize the producers because the government needs targets to stay in power.

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We don't need to add a penny to the debt. The main problem is just that low and middle-income wages have been stagnant for a few generations now.

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The opportunities to not be low or middle income have not been stagnant over that same time frame.

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The middle class has shrunk and the low grown, is that what you mean?

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If any of you all came up with businesses like Musk or Bezos, you would have a different mind set, but you haven't so you hate on it.

If you had a billion dollar idea, you would make sure you get every penny out of it. How do you tell someone "you can make money, but we are going to cap you on how successful you can be"

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Exactly. I want to be part of a society where I think "I can do that! I can get there!"

Not one that says "that guy has too much much and it's all his fault I don't have anything".

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That isn't the issue. Not everyone can be Elon. But when the economy is growing and productivity is increasing, everyone should be getting richer to some degree. Instead real wages are falling, and more people are struggling.

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Real wages decline because of "compassion" the government likes to apply to capitalism. Another $2 Trillion of debt this year?

And Elon has made great lives for a lot of people, including thousands of employees, and countless investors. We demonize the producers because the government needs targets to stay in power.

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We don't need to add a penny to the debt. The main problem is just that low and middle-income wages have been stagnant for a few generations now.

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The opportunities to not be low or middle income have not been stagnant over that same time frame.

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By definition, not everyone can be in the top 10 percent. Most will be in the low or middle range.

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Liberals in the USA are a privileged and different breed. Including the younger generation.
Regardless of how one feels about DT or conservatives, liberals here are often very ignorant people with a distorted perception of how the real world works.
To them, socialism and communism are sexy. Hip. Edgy.
But not a one of them would last two seconds in any of those countries. And for some reason choose to ignore those who have fled those countries for the USA and reveal how bad it truly is.
Too blinded by their privileged arrogance.

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Socialism should have been relegated to the dustbin of history a long time ago. Conservatives are the only ones keeping it alive, sad to say.

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LOL.

Love how Sam accuses conservatives of all sorts of weird bull**** to try and trigger everyone.

His troll game needs improvement.

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NYC just elected that nut job as mayor. AOC is always flapping her gums. As is Bernie. Not to mention many others. And they're all wealthy, no doubt from capitalist ventures. Or in the case of the mayor, mommy and daddy's capitalist realms. If the conservatives are bringing it up it's only because a very vocal group of libs are flapping their gums about it. It's all coming out of their mouths first. Don't put this on the conservatives.

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NYC just elected a rock star of a mayor, and he's proving government can work for the people. I don't understand why people keep getting mad at the idea that honest elected officials can do good for the electorate. Instead, we keep voting for grifters, and they keep taking and telling us that that's the better way.

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I appreciate a good troll job.

I especially like Mandami's ideas on a Soviet style grocery store. Those seem to work really well during its heyday.

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Some ideas may not be successful. What has proven itself to be a failure is tax cuts for the top income earners and successful corporations in the hope that it will "trickle down" to the little guy.

States are not winning with the strategy of wooing corporations that utilize the infrastructure but don't pay for it. Texas is just putting that cost on our backs.

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Good way to cause a mass exodus from NYC.

It always amazes me when people fall for repackaged socialism. I mean, we have an idea that's so bad it has literally bankrupted every country that has employed any true version of it, but somehow now it's going to be different in NYC.

Oy vey.

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People come to New York. People leave New York. What you're missing is that people go there to make the salary they make. There's a reason why people aren't moving to Waco to become Traders and actors.

Trust me, New York isn't about to run short of ambitious people wanting to make it.

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Businesses are leaving NYC in droves, and that's where the real tax revenue comes from.

https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/new-york-city-lost-nearly-5000-businesses-last-year-report-albany-mayor-zohran-mamdani-employers-low-tax-states-taxes-economic-conditions-economy-income-sales-property-unemployment

NYC already has one of the highest state and local income taxes in the U.S., and adding more to their tax burden is just a bridge too far for many businesses. And therein lies the problems with these kind of taxes. They never work.

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The purpose of the government is not to make life easy for businesses at the expense of the rest of us. People were energized by Mamdani because he offered that the government would work for them, too.

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Do you know how much the average business pays in taxes? Have you ever owned one?

I just always find it curious how there's this weird idea that businesses or those who make a lot aren't paying their fair share. I mean, if we do want to scrap capitalism in favor of a socialist model, I suppose we could do that, and not reward innovation. But haven't we tried that and failed miserably?

But what do you suggest then? How do we combat the wealth gap? Put a large tax on people, say, making over a million, and then distribute that to the poor?

These idiots are just forsaking rational and critical thought for ideology.

It's easy to articulate indoctrination points but it seems difficult to understand where your freedom, privilege, security, and stability vome from.

Even some of my most "liberal" Baylor business's professors understood that.

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If any of you all came up with businesses like Musk or Bezos, you would have a different mind set, but you haven't so you hate on it.

If you had a billion dollar idea, you would make sure you get every penny out of it. How do you tell someone "you can make money, but we are going to cap you on how successful you can be"

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Exactly. I want to be part of a society where I think "I can do that! I can get there!"

Not one that says "that guy has too much much and it's all his fault I don't have anything".

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That isn't the issue. Not everyone can be Elon. But when the economy is growing and productivity is increasing, everyone should be getting richer to some degree. Instead real wages are falling, and more people are struggling.

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Real wages decline because of "compassion" the government likes to apply to capitalism. Another $2 Trillion of debt this year?

And Elon has made great lives for a lot of people, including thousands of employees, and countless investors. We demonize the producers because the government needs targets to stay in power.

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We don't need to add a penny to the debt. The main problem is just that low and middle-income wages have been stagnant for a few generations now.

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The opportunities to not be low or middle income have not been stagnant over that same time frame.

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The middle class has shrunk and the low grown, is that what you mean?

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The biggest jump has been in the upper middle class. I have no idea what you're referring to, particularly on the low end.

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If any of you all came up with businesses like Musk or Bezos, you would have a different mind set, but you haven't so you hate on it.

If you had a billion dollar idea, you would make sure you get every penny out of it. How do you tell someone "you can make money, but we are going to cap you on how successful you can be"

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Exactly. I want to be part of a society where I think "I can do that! I can get there!"

Not one that says "that guy has too much much and it's all his fault I don't have anything".

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That isn't the issue. Not everyone can be Elon. But when the economy is growing and productivity is increasing, everyone should be getting richer to some degree. Instead real wages are falling, and more people are struggling.

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Real wages decline because of "compassion" the government likes to apply to capitalism. Another $2 Trillion of debt this year?

And Elon has made great lives for a lot of people, including thousands of employees, and countless investors. We demonize the producers because the government needs targets to stay in power.

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We don't need to add a penny to the debt. The main problem is just that low and middle-income wages have been stagnant for a few generations now.

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The opportunities to not be low or middle income have not been stagnant over that same time frame.

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By definition, not everyone can be in the top 10 percent. Most will be in the low or middle range.

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Not everyone ends up where they are currently at. These things are a spectrum measure at a moment in time. The reality is that over 50% of Americans spend at least 1 year of earnings in the top 10%. If you drop it to top 25% it is over three quarters. Static measures don't account for longitudinal realities like intragenerational mobility. That's why I specifically said the opportunity to remain there (low and middle income) is not stagnant.

It's unfortunate that public discourse surrounds snapshot bias. For example, many retirees have much greater wealth than their average annual income reflects, and certainly spent large portions of their working lives in the top quartiles of income measurement. "Peak earning years" isn't a myth.